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2013-09-18 10:34:48 AM  

sweetmelissa31: Oppressed
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www.godless.biz

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Not oppressed:

The constitutions of these seven US states ban atheists from holding public office:

Arkansas:
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."

Maryland:
"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution."

Mississippi:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."

North Carolina:
"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."

South Carolina:
"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."

Tennessee:
"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."

Texas:
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."An eighth state constitution discriminates against atheists by affording special protection to theists only.

Pennsylvania:
"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth."


It certainly appears the real assh0les here are the theists.
 
2013-09-18 10:36:22 AM  

SoupGuru: Don't get me started on how awful it is to be a white male in this country.  You have no idea the kinds of things I'm expected to put up with.  I'm certainly not coddled like those knee-grows and messicans.  It's a burden.


I think this is the best explanation of the white man's burden. (Caution: YouTube auto-launches.)
 
2013-09-18 10:39:03 AM  

Zeno-25: sarajlewis83: FourDirections: Meh, this is rhetoric from a right-wing website trying to push wedges deeper to make religion more of a political issue in hopes of deepening their base. Not that "right-wing news" wasn't a clue.

Dear Right Wing News: I consider myself a Christian. I'll let others take from their religions (Christian or otherwise) what they will, but here's what it means to me: Be good. Be honest. Be kind. Help those in need. Do the right thing when it's difficult. Do what needs to be done because it's the right thing, not because it's the easy thing. Do not judge others, but strive constantly to follow the example that Christ showed: kindness and mercy, charity and humility.

As far as you trying to turn the most private and sensitive part of my life into a political wedge, I can tell you this: no thank you. My religion and my politics will always be separate, and your attempt to make me feel somehow persecuted by it feels hollow and disingenuous. You don't speak for me. So with all due respect, kindly shove it up your ass.

Well said. I, too, am a Christian, yet I somehow don't feel the urge to shove that fact down everyone's throat or force those around me to conform to my own personal beliefs. The marriage of politics and religion corrupts both. How this proven statement hasn't been made apparent to all our brothers and sisters in Christ, I will never understand.

There are a lot of people in this country who call themselves Christians, but they couldn't be further from embodying what Jesus tought and following his example of how to behave with compassion and humility. They are actually members of social organizations which make them feel proud about their hollow sense of self-righteousness and their bumfark backward values.

If there is any such thing as the anti-Christ, these false Christians that live their lives counter to Jesus's example and that are having such a terrible effect on the country are it.


I'd say it's about 90% of self identified Christians don't even try to follow the rules.  Sure nobody is perfect, but you need to at least try to follow what you claim to believe.
 
2013-09-18 10:42:20 AM  

doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.


msg-ctrl.com
 
2013-09-18 10:53:36 AM  

balthan: Actually, no. Here are the instructions from the lesson the professor was using:

"Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper," the lesson reads. "Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can't step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture."


This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.
 
2013-09-18 10:54:01 AM  

sarajlewis83: FourDirections: Meh, this is rhetoric from a right-wing website trying to push wedges deeper to make religion more of a political issue in hopes of deepening their base. Not that "right-wing news" wasn't a clue.

Dear Right Wing News: I consider myself a Christian. I'll let others take from their religions (Christian or otherwise) what they will, but here's what it means to me: Be good. Be honest. Be kind. Help those in need. Do the right thing when it's difficult. Do what needs to be done because it's the right thing, not because it's the easy thing. Do not judge others, but strive constantly to follow the example that Christ showed: kindness and mercy, charity and humility.

As far as you trying to turn the most private and sensitive part of my life into a political wedge, I can tell you this: no thank you. My religion and my politics will always be separate, and your attempt to make me feel somehow persecuted by it feels hollow and disingenuous. You don't speak for me. So with all due respect, kindly shove it up your ass.

Well said. I, too, am a Christian, yet I somehow don't feel the urge to shove that fact down everyone's throat or force those around me to conform to my own personal beliefs. The marriage of politics and religion corrupts both. How this proven statement hasn't been made apparent to all our brothers and sisters in Christ, I will never understand.


Probably because most of them aren't actually religious - religion is just a way of getting to insert any desired policy they want into their platform without having to actually justify it on any grounds, as long as they claim their religion tells them to, for example, ban gays marrying, that is seen by many as a perfectly reasonable basis to campaign on (even in some cases when they disagree with you).
 
2013-09-18 10:59:46 AM  
Here's some persecution.  Can we please change our National Motto back to E Pluribus Unum?  I was actually shocked to find out that it's actually "In god we trust."
 
2013-09-18 11:08:14 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Oh look, another article from the esteemed mind that brought us '5 reasons cats are inferior to dogs', '7 types of chicks who annoy everyone by their very existence', '5 reasons Barack Obama is a creep', and, 'Is American life really slanted in favor of women more than men?' (And yes, he argues exactly what you'd expect him to in that last one).


He also authored "Why Hot Chicks Should Totally Date Fat Losers With Thigh Acne".
 
2013-09-18 11:12:37 AM  

webron: iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.

Oddly enough, there is no evidence that the whole feeding christians to the lions thing ever happened.  Christianity has been lying about being oppressed from the start.  The romans could not care less about what gods people worshipped.  Thank god there is nothing in the bible that forbids lying.  As far as i can tell from dealing with christians is that the whole bible is about how much god hates gay people.  They must use a different bible than the one i read growing up.


From what I've read the Romans banned two religions: Christians and Druids. Christians because they kept telling everyone else that they were worshiping demons, and Druids because they were into human sacrifice.
 
2013-09-18 11:15:55 AM  
#4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.

#7 is about the only one that could be really used in a way the author is looking to.

The rest, meh.
 
2013-09-18 11:21:55 AM  

sarajlewis83: FourDirections: Meh, this is rhetoric from a right-wing website trying to push wedges deeper to make religion more of a political issue in hopes of deepening their base. Not that "right-wing news" wasn't a clue.

Dear Right Wing News: I consider myself a Christian. I'll let others take from their religions (Christian or otherwise) what they will, but here's what it means to me: Be good. Be honest. Be kind. Help those in need. Do the right thing when it's difficult. Do what needs to be done because it's the right thing, not because it's the easy thing. Do not judge others, but strive constantly to follow the example that Christ showed: kindness and mercy, charity and humility.

As far as you trying to turn the most private and sensitive part of my life into a political wedge, I can tell you this: no thank you. My religion and my politics will always be separate, and your attempt to make me feel somehow persecuted by it feels hollow and disingenuous. You don't speak for me. So with all due respect, kindly shove it up your ass.

Well said. I, too, am a Christian, yet I somehow don't feel the urge to shove that fact down everyone's throat or force those around me to conform to my own personal beliefs. The marriage of politics and religion corrupts both. How this proven statement hasn't been made apparent to all our brothers and sisters in Christ, I will never understand.


Exactly.  You can actually do all of the above even as *GASP* an atheist.  I'm a lot more concerned about how I live my life than about what deity I follow.
 
2013-09-18 11:22:29 AM  

ole prophet: #4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.


If someone refuses to make a cake for you because of your skin color, that's a civil rights violation and can be treated as such.
 
2013-09-18 11:28:23 AM  

tryptik: This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.


If some people could be made to understand why they feel stepping on a piece of paper with the word "Jesus" written on it is outrageous, perhaps they could begin to understand why some others my be insulted by things like burning the Quran.
 
2013-09-18 11:31:41 AM  

ole prophet: #4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.


Illegal to discriminate against people based on the sexual orientation. What you are proposing would allow a business to not cater to people based on other factors like race, religion, disability etc...
 
2013-09-18 11:32:52 AM  

Irving Maimway: I read that and feel stupider for having done so.


I red that and stoop.. I did hurr.. ugh.. where can I buy a lottery ticket?
 
2013-09-18 11:34:58 AM  

balthan: tryptik: This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.

If some people could be made to understand why they feel stepping on a piece of paper with the word "Jesus" written on it is outrageous, perhaps they could begin to understand why some others my be insulted by things like burning the Quran.


If they have enough empathy to put them in a Muslim's place.
If
 
2013-09-18 11:35:11 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: John Hawkins is fat, stupid, and a waste of oxygen.


Wombat where I come from (Waste Of Money, Business And Time)
 
2013-09-18 11:38:34 AM  
Isn't it about time we modernized the first amendment?  It seems sort of silly that, right out of the gate, one of the first things we decided to protect was... bronze-age superstitions and invisible friends.
 
2013-09-18 11:39:26 AM  

Mrfusticle: HMS_Blinkin: John Hawkins is fat, stupid, and a waste of oxygen.

Wombat where I come from (Waste Of Money, Business And Time)


That's lovely.  Mind if I borrow it?
 
2013-09-18 11:43:43 AM  

INeedAName: As a Christian, I would just like to say that most of us are decent human beings. Sadly we also have our complete nutjob wack-a-dos who happen to shout far louder than the rest of us.

/Might've done a fist pump when Falwell died.


No most of you are not decent human beings. Most of you think you are, but you are wrong. It is not a minority that a nutjob wack-a-dos, but the majority.
 
2013-09-18 11:48:18 AM  

ginandbacon: doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.

Thank you. Very succinct.


And accurate.
 
2013-09-18 11:48:57 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.

well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters


Are you retarded?  Just asking.
 
2013-09-18 11:49:28 AM  

FourDirections: Dear Right Wing News: I consider myself a Christian. I'll let others take from their religions (Christian or otherwise) what they will, but here's what it means to me: Be good. Be honest. Be kind. Help those in need. Do the right thing when it's difficult. Do what needs to be done because it's the right thing, not because it's the easy thing. Do not judge others, but strive constantly to follow the example that Christ showed: kindness and mercy, charity and humility.

As far as you trying to turn the most private and sensitive part of my life into a political wedge, I can tell you this: no thank you. My religion and my politics will always be separate, and your attempt to make me feel somehow persecuted


*gassho*
 
2013-09-18 11:50:52 AM  

Mikey1969: 1. Yeah, that seems pretty bad. Can we get some more details by any chance? Was this just some misinformed moron, or was this actual policy?


What I was able to find:

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/2013/09/11/foxs-starnes-fearmonge r s-about-christian-groups/195830

Almost everything on Google was from a "patriot" blog or evangelical Christian sites. That, in itself, is telling. The original Fox story quotes a USDA agent saying, "under current law, organizations that receive USDA nutrition assistance can still engage in religious activities so long as the activity is not used to create a barrier to eligible individuals receiving food."

It sounds as if the church might have been handing out paid-for-with-tax-dollars cheese if people agreed to listen to some preaching. That is a no-no.
 
2013-09-18 11:51:26 AM  

tryptik: balthan: Actually, no. Here are the instructions from the lesson the professor was using:

"Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper," the lesson reads. "Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can't step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture."

This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.


You probably should expand on that statement.  I'm having trouble understanding why an activity intended to create an emotional response related to a symbol is a stupid way to start a group discussion on the impact of symbols.  It wouldn't work nearly so well outside the US (from out here, the US fangasms over their versions of Jesus are a bit scary).  It's not substantially dissimilar from the story a few weeks back about a teacher that did the same thing with a flag.

Cheers.
 
2013-09-18 11:54:26 AM  

tryptik: balthan: Actually, no. Here are the instructions from the lesson the professor was using:

"Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper," the lesson reads. "Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can't step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture."

This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.


I know. Jesus is a landscaping genius around my work complex.
 
2013-09-18 11:54:40 AM  
Hawkins is a hack, even when it comes to pseudo-Christian whining about persecution in the US.

Here's how you do it son:

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-09-18 11:55:02 AM  

webron: iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.

Oddly enough, there is no evidence that the whole feeding christians to the lions thing ever happened.  Christianity has been lying about being oppressed from the start.  The romans could not care less about what gods people worshipped.  Thank god there is nothing in the bible that forbids lying.  As far as i can tell from dealing with christians is that the whole bible is about how much god hates gay people.  They must use a different bible than the one i read growing up.


The Bible condems bearing false witness not lying. A bunch of lying liars have turned it into not lying so that their kids don't lie or something.
Bearing False witness seems to be a common thread when comparing the claims this author makes and the truth.
 
2013-09-18 11:55:30 AM  

tryptik: balthan: Actually, no. Here are the instructions from the lesson the professor was using:

"Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper," the lesson reads. "Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can't step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture."

This may be the stupidest thing I have ever read.


Well, if that was the lesson, then I rescind my comment about the professor being a douche. It was a springboard into discussion that the student lost the perspective upon.
 
2013-09-18 11:57:41 AM  

randomjsa: 1. That's not discrimination. That's somebody finally getting around to enforcing the establishment clause.
2. The IRS scandal, in all its forms, was legitimate government discrimination, but it wasn't against Christians.
3. That's not discrimination. Being an annoying bastard to a captive audience was thought to be a crime, it turns out that it wasn't. This is how the law works.
4. That is discrimination... and the Christians were the ones doing the discriminating, but as it was a private business they should have that right. Don't shop there if you don't like it.
5. The good old 'simple disagreement' defense. If your religion said it was okay to discriminate against people based on race, gender, or religious practices (all of which it does by the way) would it be okay for you as a military officer to advocate it because your religion says so?
6. If you want special and exclusive permission to use a public park for something, then get a permit, otherwise if I show up and start running a jet ski up and down the place which disrupts your baptism, you don't get to complain about it.
7. Oh my they actually got 1 out of 7 right! They really did find actual honest to goodness discrimination against Christians that was legitimately wrong. I will give them this one. They are actually correct.


So Vote Democrat?
 
2013-09-18 12:02:47 PM  

DeaH: Mikey1969: 1. Yeah, that seems pretty bad. Can we get some more details by any chance? Was this just some misinformed moron, or was this actual policy?

What I was able to find:

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/2013/09/11/foxs-starnes-fearmonge r s-about-christian-groups/195830

Almost everything on Google was from a "patriot" blog or evangelical Christian sites. That, in itself, is telling. The original Fox story quotes a USDA agent saying, "under current law, organizations that receive USDA nutrition assistance can still engage in religious activities so long as the activity is not used to create a barrier to eligible individuals receiving food."

It sounds as if the church might have been handing out paid-for-with-tax-dollars cheese if people agreed to listen to some preaching. That is a no-no.


Interesting... Thanks for the info. Not discrimination at all if this is what was happening.
 
2013-09-18 12:04:20 PM  

strathcona: Are you retarded? Just asking.


Well by the very definition I don't think that he'd know.
 
2013-09-18 12:05:34 PM  

strathcona: HindiDiscoMonster: d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.

well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters

Are you retarded?  Just asking.


You've never heard this point of view from an Evangelical Christian? I used to hear it all the time, when my family was identifiably Catholic and I went to school with born-agains.
 
2013-09-18 12:10:00 PM  
Hey, give Christians a break. They've got the Devil, all the demons in hell, the anti-Christ, eternal judgement, all kinds of things to worry about without people piling on with requests for gay cake.
 
2013-09-18 12:12:22 PM  
I have a few solutions to their "we shouldn't have to get a permit to perform baptisms in public waters" problem.

They can use certain public waters without a permit.

For instance, they are absolutely free to use the waters of Yosemite Creek anywhere in the area extending 100 yards north from the lip of Upper Yosemite Falls without a permit during the months of March-July each year.

They may also freely use any of the waters in and around the Anhinga Trail area of Everglades National Park without a permit at any time.

Similarly, they may conduct baptisms without a permit in any of the waters in the Upper, Lower, West Thumb, Norris, Midway or Monument Geyser Basins in Yellowstone National Park at any time.

The waters above and below Brooks Falls in Katmai National Park may also be used without a permit during the summer salmon spawning runs.

There - Problem solved!
 
2013-09-18 12:14:35 PM  

spongeboob: webron: iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.

Oddly enough, there is no evidence that the whole feeding christians to the lions thing ever happened.  Christianity has been lying about being oppressed from the start.  The romans could not care less about what gods people worshipped.  Thank god there is nothing in the bible that forbids lying.  As far as i can tell from dealing with christians is that the whole bible is about how much god hates gay people.  They must use a different bible than the one i read growing up.

The Bible condems bearing false witness not lying. A bunch of lying liars have turned it into not lying so that their kids don't lie or something.
Bearing False witness seems to be a common thread when comparing the claims this author makes and the truth.


Time to dust off the old list of things that Leviticus forbids in addition to the homoerotica...

1.       Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11)
Not a huge problem nowadays.

2.       Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13)
Again, not a huge deal to most Christian churches.

3.       Eating fat (3:17)
Southern cuisine is in trouble

4.       Eating blood (3:17)
German cuisine is in trouble.

5.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've witnessed (5:1)
Congress is in trouble.

6.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've been told about (5:1)
Congress is REALLY in trouble

7.       Touching an unclean animal (5:2)
Hope you don't like pork...

8.       Carelessly making an oath (5:4)
Again, Congress is REALLY in trouble

9.       Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2)
HOAs are against God...

10.   Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3)
Much of America is DOOMED...

11.   Bringing unauthorized fire before God (10:1)
The candle trade for saints is apparently DOOOOOOM!

12.   Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6)
Hipsters, teens, and much of Hollywood is DOOOOOMED!

13.   Tearing your clothes (10:6)
Wrasslin' is the work of the Debbil

14.   Drinking alcohol in holy places (10:9)
Catholics, we're looking right at you....

15.   Eating an animal which doesn't both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7)
Rib joints are the work of the Debbil...

16.   Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
Hope you aren't a fan of football...

17.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12)
Red Lobster is the work of the Debbil...

18.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19)
In fairness, this means that Newage folks are DOOOOOMED!

19.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22)
Cicadas may be out.

20.   Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (11:27)
Roof rabbit may have doomed the entire Greatest Generation...

21.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29)
Hope you haven't had gator bites...

22.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42)
Rattlesnake BBQ is RIGHT out...

23.   Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4)
Hope you aren't having that Christening too early, you naughty folks...

24.   Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5)
See the above, but double time for the girlchil'run...

25.   Having sex with your mother (18:7)
Which is not a bad rule to have, but let's face it, this rule pretty much takes out a good section of 90s day time TV

26.   Having sex with your father's wife (18:8)
Not a bad rule either, but see the above section on reality TV...

27.   Having sex with your sister (18:9)
This one is going to have Kentucky and good sections of the South, and Maine in trouble...

28.   Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)
Not a bad rule at all, and...ewww...

29.  Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)
See the earlier section on day time TV...

30.   Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13)
Again, see the section on day time TV...

31.   Having sex with your uncle's wife (18:14)
Man, Maury would be screwed if we damn everyone for this...

32.   Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15)
Maury may have sent a brazillion folks to Hell for this...

33.   Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16)
Congress may be in trouble here too...

34.   Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17)
Alan Clarke and Maury are soooo screwed on this.

35.   Marrying your wife's sister while your wife still lives (18:18)
Man, day time TV is just rife with sinfulness. Should we let children watch this smut?

36.   Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19)
Redwings. Apparently, always a bad idea...

37.   Having sex with your neighbour's wife (18:20)
Congress, and a fair amount of middle America is sooooo boned...

38.   Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)
In fairness, I'm all for religious freedom, but this seems like a good, commonsense rule.

39.   Having sex with a man "as one does with a woman" (18:22)
There it is. THIS apparently is THE important one.

40.   Having sex with an animal (18:23)
The Scots apparently have generations of sending kindling to Hell...

41.   Making idols or "metal gods" (19:4)
Catholics, you may be in some trouble here...

42.   Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9)
Yup. We're supposed to leave stuff for the poor and destitute to glean from the fields...

43.   Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10)
Factory farming is the work of the Debbil...

44.   Stealing (19:11)
Congress and much of the legal system is so screwed...

45.   Lying (19:11)
Is there anything Congress CAN do then?

46.   Swearing falsely on God's name (19:12)
Pat Robertson and Congress apparently makes Jehovah wroth...

47.   Defrauding your neighbor (19:13)
Real estate and much of America is boned. You'll note how wroth folks are about this one, while being ghey is just the work of the Debbil...

48.   Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (19:13)
Paychecks are the work of the Debbil...

49.   Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14)
God is hard on douchebags...

50.   Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15)
Congress in both houses are boned...

51.   Spreading slander (19:16)
As are the tabloids...

52.   Doing anything to endanger a neighbour's life (19:16)
Most of America and the "here, hold my beer" crowd is screwed...

53.   Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)
Congress...you are sooooooooo going ALL of you to Hell...

54.   Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)
Walmart, Sears, and Target. Agents of Satan...

55.   Cross-breeding animals (19:19)
God IS against GMO husbandry...

56.   Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)
Put down the basil and the tomatoes. I don't care if they DO complement one another's growth, it's BAD!

57.   Sleeping with another man's slave (19:20)
Seriously. Bad form folks. Bad form.

58.   Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23)
The apple industry is the work of the Debbil...

59.   Practicing divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26)
Miss Cleo is the work of the Debbil, and here we have this sin IN OUR PAPERS!

60.   Trimming your beard (19:27)
Look at all the dirty bastiches who do this. LOOK AT THEM!

61.   Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)
The Marines are the work of the Debbil...

62.   Getting tattoos (19:28)
Tramp stamps and memorial tattoos are the work of the Debbil...

63.   Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29)
Daytime TV is SUCH a sinful place...

64.   Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31)
Miss Cleo. Leading a nation into sin and depravity...

65.   Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)
Welp, this one seems right out today...

66.   Mistreating foreigners - "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born"  (19:33-34)
Guess that means we can stop those Oathkeepers and Sheriff Joe from being mean to the immigrants then, right? Border fences are the Debbil's chopsticks I guess...

67.   Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36)
My industry is boned as a whole, as is pretty much most of the oil industry as well...

68.   Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9)
Maury and the rest could have made a few bucks by televising the stonings though...

69.   Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13)
Odd, that you don't see more folks incensed by this...

70.   Entering a place where there's a dead body as a priest (21:11)
Which pretty much means that all our chaplains are boned.

71.   Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28)
And in fairness, it's rude too. Eating mama and her babies is just greedy...

72.   Working on the Sabbath (23:3)
Sadly, this means no liquor stores open on Saturday or Sunday...

73.   Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)
Man, we are going to need a LOT of stones. Just in the State legislatures, and let's not even get onto Congress...

74.   Inflicting an injury; killing someone else's animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22)
This WOULD end cockfighting and dogfighting quick though...

75.   Selling land permanently (25:23)
Odd, you don't see more protests and signs around real estate agencies...

76.   Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42)
So, I guess we should be OK with slaves again?
 
2013-09-18 12:14:59 PM  
It's articles like this that make me want to be that asshole atheist, you know, the one that's supposedly as bad as fundamentalist religious folk.
 
2013-09-18 12:15:28 PM  

BMulligan: strathcona: HindiDiscoMonster: d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.

well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters

Are you retarded?  Just asking.

You've never heard this point of view from an Evangelical Christian? I used to hear it all the time, when my family was identifiably Catholic and I went to school with born-agains.


IIRC from my childhood as an Evangelical, the implication is that Catholics worship Mary and the other saints almost on the same level as God and Jesus, including pilgrimages to holy sites associated with them, and therefore are breaking the 2nd commandment at least, and possibly the 1st.
 
2013-09-18 12:18:34 PM  

spongeboob: 4. If the potential year in jail is true that is horrible, got a non-wing nut source on that?


i have never heard of the cake jail story, but it sounds like key facts are being ignored.  not making someone a cake is necessarily a civil, not criminal, dispute.  If someone says, hey do this, and you say no, there is absolutely nothing to dispute, no one has a duty to enter a contract against their will, generally.

so, my theory is that he agreed to make the cake, took the money, found out it was for a gay wedding, and then refused to make the cake.  the couple sued for performance (to make the cake) or breach of contract or return of the money.  and then the court ordered the guy to return the money or make the cake.  when he refused, he was in contempt of court.

contempt of court is the pretty much the only way a civil case can result in jail time.
 
2013-09-18 12:19:41 PM  
BunkoSquad:

Herpa, derpa, derpity doo
I've got another scandal for you
Herpa, derpa, derpity dee
If you are stupid you'll listen to me

What do you get when you keep libs around?
They'll push your religion into the ground
American Christians don't have a chance
Libs are making us...as bad...as...France
(But we'll never surrender)

Herpa, derpa, derpity dar
If you're an atheist Muslim you will go far
You won't be killed for expressing a view
Like the herpa derpity derpity do!


[applause.gif]

+1 would read again
 
2013-09-18 12:21:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: 20.  We never get any good bands.  We have to listen to Christian rap and then we have to tell people "did you ever listen to DC Talk?  They're really positive."  That's so lame.

21.  All of our celebrities turn out to be whores.  Whether it's Britney, Miley, Beyonce... all of them.  It's all Jesus this and Jesus that and then they turn 19 and they're performing anallingus on national TV with a bear.  It's embarassing.

22.  Have you ever had the misfortune of listening to Christian comedians?  Anything with the word Christian on the front is bound to be bad.  Christian Comedy is like Diet Coke or Sugar-Free Jello.  They tell you it sucks right on the label.


There used to be a punk rock band in Carbondale Illinois called Diet Christ. I believe atleast one member is a farker.
 
2013-09-18 12:22:02 PM  

wxboy: BMulligan: strathcona: HindiDiscoMonster: d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.

well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters

Are you retarded?  Just asking.

You've never heard this point of view from an Evangelical Christian? I used to hear it all the time, when my family was identifiably Catholic and I went to school with born-agains.

IIRC from my childhood as an Evangelical, the implication is that Catholics worship Mary and the other saints almost on the same level as God and Jesus, including pilgrimages to holy sites associated with them, and therefore are breaking the 2nd commandment at least, and possibly the 1st.


The thing is: we HAD official state religions. Each state had an official state religion when we got the Articles of Confederation. It led to a lot of folks getting burned out of their homes, run out of the state, and it wasn't just Baptists who joined the fun either. We tried it once, and it led to such "good times" that we scrapped the idea, and got a secular government to avoid such things. It's not that the Founders were against religion entirely, but they saw, first hand, what state supported faiths could do to a very American population: turn neighbor against neighbor and covet their stuff and use faith as a bludgeon...
 
2013-09-18 12:26:03 PM  
A swimming pool of Preperation H could not calm this guys butthurt.

Why is it that the people most violently scared of Sharia law are the ones attempting to create a Christian version of it here?  Then when they don't get their way it's persecution and war on them.  The same people who claim they have a constitutional right to practice their religion, but when someone else asserts theirs or the lack thereof it's violating their constitutional rights.  Don't get me wrong, not all Christians are bad, you guys just have a lot of very vocal members who think the C in Christianity stands for Cognitive Dissonance.
 
2013-09-18 12:29:41 PM  

sprawl15: ole prophet: #4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.

If someone refuses to make a cake for you because of your skin color, that's a civil rights violation and can be treated as such.


No it isn't. And it shouldn't be. You posted to public forums, you talk to the media, you mock and ridicule, and take your money elsewhere. A business has the right to refuse service for any reason they see fit.
 
2013-09-18 12:30:55 PM  

hubiestubert: 16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
Hope you aren't a fan of football...


Modern American footballs, despite being called 'pigskins', are actually made of steer hides.
 
2013-09-18 12:37:16 PM  

ole prophet: sprawl15: ole prophet: #4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.

If someone refuses to make a cake for you because of your skin color, that's a civil rights violation and can be treated as such.

No it isn't. And it shouldn't be. You posted to public forums, you talk to the media, you mock and ridicule, and take your money elsewhere. A business has the right to refuse service for any reason they see fit.


So you're OK with "No Coloreds" signs?

Cheers.
 
2013-09-18 12:37:57 PM  

doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.


Wow, these Right-Wing screes are usually text walls, but that is very well put!
 
2013-09-18 12:41:24 PM  

Karac: hubiestubert: 16. Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
Hope you aren't a fan of football...

Modern American footballs, despite being called 'pigskins', are actually made of steer hides.


They're also not really "foot" balls

www.augmentedplanet.com
 
2013-09-18 12:41:50 PM  

wxboy: BMulligan: strathcona: HindiDiscoMonster: d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.

well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters

Are you retarded?  Just asking.

You've never heard this point of view from an Evangelical Christian? I used to hear it all the time, when my family was identifiably Catholic and I went to school with born-agains.

IIRC from my childhood as an Evangelical, the implication is that Catholics worship Mary and the other saints almost on the same level as God and Jesus, including pilgrimages to holy sites associated with them, and therefore are breaking the 2nd commandment at least, and possibly the 1st.


I still go to a Baptist church.  Every so often, I'll see a preacher go off on a rant about other denominations which are not actually 'Christian'.  The following are the reasons usually given (I take no personal responsibility for any inaccuracies, I am merely repeating what I've heard):

Catholics: saying a Hail Mary proves they are worshiping Mary instead of God.  Also, using religious icons of the saints counts as idolatry.
Jehovah's Witnesses: they believe Jesus made the Earth instead of God, in direct contravention to the very first sentence in the Bible
Mormoms: they deny the divinity of Christ and believe that all Christians can evolve into being their own 'god'.
Methodists: they use something other than Welch's grape juice as the Blood of Christ when enacting the Lord's Supper.  Plus occasional disagreements over whether dancing is a sin.

And if you don't think that these distinctions mean anything - don't forget that JFK had to all but swear that the Pope wouldn't be giving him orders before he was elected to the Presidency.
 
2013-09-18 12:44:58 PM  

Brian_of_Nazareth: ole prophet: sprawl15: ole prophet: #4 is completely insane. If some a-hole refuses to make a cake for you because he/she is in fact a a-hole, take your money elsewhere.

If someone refuses to make a cake for you because of your skin color, that's a civil rights violation and can be treated as such.

No it isn't. And it shouldn't be. You posted to public forums, you talk to the media, you mock and ridicule, and take your money elsewhere. A business has the right to refuse service for any reason they see fit.

So you're OK with "No Coloreds" signs?

Cheers.


I wouldn't patronize a business with such a sign, but I'm pretty sure enough  other people wouldn't patronize it, as well, that the problem would rapidly correct itself.  We don't need the law to handle every farking thing someone isn't "okay" with.
 
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