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2013-09-18 12:57:09 AM
How John Hawkins sees their plight:

www.kingsacademy.com

How everyone else sees their plight:

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2013-09-18 01:08:00 AM
Oh look, another article from the esteemed mind that brought us '5 reasons cats are inferior to dogs', '7 types of chicks who annoy everyone by their very existence', '5 reasons Barack Obama is a creep', and, 'Is American life really slanted in favor of women more than men?' (And yes, he argues exactly what you'd expect him to in that last one).
 
2013-09-18 01:08:17 AM
I read that and feel stupider for having done so.
 
2013-09-18 01:10:51 AM
www.atheistinfundyland.com
 
2013-09-18 01:11:12 AM
Was Tayvon Martin on the list?  Because I'm pretty sure he was a Christian.
 
2013-09-18 01:56:39 AM
I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.
 
2013-09-18 02:00:53 AM

iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.


This is what happens when you feed middle American Christians to lions:

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That cat is just a six pack away from watching fox news all day.
 
2013-09-18 02:06:38 AM
For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.
 
2013-09-18 02:11:06 AM
It's nothing but "WAAAAH! How dare others tell us that we can't shove our religion down everyone's throats!"
 
2013-09-18 02:14:36 AM
The first example was ridiculous and it went downhill from there.  Basically a charity was getting subsidised by the taxpayer and cried "we're being persecuted" when Uncle Sam said they can't relabel taxpayer-funded food as "Brought to you by Jesus."
 
2013-09-18 06:29:57 AM

doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.


Thank you. Very succinct.
 
2013-09-18 06:39:06 AM
Yes, there were actually Americans arrested for reading the Bible on public property. What do you think the chances are that two Muslims reading the Quran would have been arrested under the same circumstances?

Those damn Muslins.  They get all the preferential treatment.
 
2013-09-18 07:15:45 AM

Lorelle: It's nothing but "WAAAAH! How dare others tell us that we can't shove our religion down everyone's throats!"


Well, half of it is pure paranoia "If it was Muslims they wouldn't be held accountable for their activities they way Christians are!" and the other half is the usual twaddle from a bigot outraged to not be allowed to oppress others in the name of Jesus.
 
2013-09-18 07:36:54 AM
Your blog sucks.
 
2013-09-18 07:54:56 AM
Meh, this is rhetoric from a right-wing website trying to push wedges deeper to make religion more of a political issue in hopes of deepening their base. Not that "right-wing news" wasn't a clue.

Dear Right Wing News: I consider myself a Christian. I'll let others take from their religions (Christian or otherwise) what they will, but here's what it means to me: Be good. Be honest. Be kind. Help those in need. Do the right thing when it's difficult. Do what needs to be done because it's the right thing, not because it's the easy thing. Do not judge others, but strive constantly to follow the example that Christ showed: kindness and mercy, charity and humility.

As far as you trying to turn the most private and sensitive part of my life into a political wedge, I can tell you this: no thank you. My religion and my politics will always be separate, and your attempt to make me feel somehow persecuted by it feels hollow and disingenuous. You don't speak for me. So with all due respect, kindly shove it up your ass.
 
2013-09-18 08:03:46 AM
It's only discrimination if anti-religious stuff is targeted solely at Christians.  And codified.
 
2013-09-18 08:06:08 AM

doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.


It's not news, it's RightWingBlogNewsThingy.com.
 
2013-09-18 08:23:05 AM
The bible-reading court case and the national park baptisms are both interesting. However, the former seems less a case of "Christian persecution" than "cops persecute everyone"; and mass baptisms may well trigger some threshold of "number of people gathered", which would be a neutral and generally applicable rule which applies to religion and non-religion alike.

The others I'd heard more about; and doyner's "Herpy-derpy-doo." seems a fair summary of his descriptions, from what I recollect.
 
2013-09-18 08:31:09 AM
Islamic fundamentalists are also being discriminated against since they can't behead women in public in the US for being educated.
 
2013-09-18 08:40:31 AM
20.  We never get any good bands.  We have to listen to Christian rap and then we have to tell people "did you ever listen to DC Talk?  They're really positive."  That's so lame.

21.  All of our celebrities turn out to be whores.  Whether it's Britney, Miley, Beyonce... all of them.  It's all Jesus this and Jesus that and then they turn 19 and they're performing anallingus on national TV with a bear.  It's embarassing.

22.  Have you ever had the misfortune of listening to Christian comedians?  Anything with the word Christian on the front is bound to be bad.  Christian Comedy is like Diet Coke or Sugar-Free Jello.  They tell you it sucks right on the label.
 
2013-09-18 08:42:47 AM
I don't see why people have to attack timeless principles all the time.  There is nothing wrong with living according to the principles that Jesus modled.   Cast the first stone if you must.
 
2013-09-18 08:43:10 AM
Should be posted again...

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2013-09-18 08:43:45 AM
Only these folks could be offended a court upheld their religious rights.
 
2013-09-18 08:44:03 AM
John Hawkins is fat, stupid, and a waste of oxygen.
 
2013-09-18 08:44:19 AM
Don't get me started on how awful it is to be a white male in this country.  You have no idea the kinds of things I'm expected to put up with.  I'm certainly not coddled like those knee-grows and messicans.  It's a burden.
 
2013-09-18 08:48:56 AM

doyner: For those of you who don't want to click on the link, here it is in all its glory:

"Herpy-derpy-doo."

You're welcome.


I figured as much, and I'll take your word for it as I dislike giving attention whores page views.  I appreciate your sacrifice.
 
2013-09-18 08:50:37 AM
Which of you farkers posted the "ITS OUR COUNTRY WAHHH" comment on the blog?

I'm guessing subby.
 
2013-09-18 08:52:01 AM
Written By : John Hawkins...

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2013-09-18 08:52:21 AM

iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.


Again? It never happened the first time.  Early Christians made that up to fill their ever present sense of victimhood.  Some things never change.
 
2013-09-18 08:52:35 AM

iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.


Oddly enough, there is no evidence that the whole feeding christians to the lions thing ever happened.  Christianity has been lying about being oppressed from the start.  The romans could not care less about what gods people worshipped.  Thank god there is nothing in the bible that forbids lying.  As far as i can tell from dealing with christians is that the whole bible is about how much god hates gay people.  They must use a different bible than the one i read growing up.
 
2013-09-18 08:52:56 AM

iq_in_binary: I'm sorry, are we throwing you farkers to lions for entertainment again? When did I miss that?

Oh we're not? Shut the fark up.


we stopped since it gives them gas.
 
2013-09-18 08:53:33 AM

abb3w: The bible-reading court case and the national park baptisms are both interesting. However, the former seems less a case of "Christian persecution" than "cops persecute everyone"; and mass baptisms may well trigger some threshold of "number of people gathered", which would be a neutral and generally applicable rule which applies to religion and non-religion alike.

The others I'd heard more about; and doyner's "Herpy-derpy-doo." seems a fair summary of his descriptions, from what I recollect.


I didn't read the bible reading case, but I suspect 'bible reading' may be a euphemism for 'shouting Leviticus at Teh Gayz' or 'throwing ourselves into people's paths to ask whether they wanted to read the Bible'
 
2013-09-18 08:53:39 AM
I want my 2 1/2 minutes back.
 
2013-09-18 08:56:27 AM
Here in Kentucky, there's currently a rather large kerfuffle because the state School Board send letters to the locals telling them they can't allow Gideons to hand out Bibles to second graders IN SCHOOL DURING SCHOOL HOURS.  Evidently this has been going on for years and someone finally complained to the ACLU.

Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.
 
2013-09-18 08:57:59 AM

Gordon Bennett: Lorelle: It's nothing but "WAAAAH! How dare others tell us that we can't shove our religion down everyone's throats!"

Well, half of it is pure paranoia "If it was Muslims they wouldn't be held accountable for their activities they way Christians are!" and the other half is the usual twaddle from a bigot outraged to not be allowed to oppress others in the name of Jesus.


Another reading: half was "waah we're held to the same standards as regular Americans" and half was "waah you can't openly discriminate against gays in public service any more."  I mean, it was bad enough when the government started protecting blacks and Jews, but now gays, too?  Since when can't we openly bash gays FOR THE LORD?
 
2013-09-18 08:58:50 AM

webron: Thank god there is nothing in the bible that forbids lying.


There is the bit about bearing false witness....
 
2013-09-18 08:59:20 AM

urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.


Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.
 
2013-09-18 08:59:25 AM
John Hawkins is discriminated against when they put the fat-free mayonnaise on a higher shelf forcing him to buy the 5 gallon tub of the regular
 
2013-09-18 09:01:37 AM

factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.


I truly don't see what's so hard to understand about the concept of government neutrality.
 
2013-09-18 09:03:09 AM

SoupGuru: Don't get me started on how awful it is to be a white male in this country.  You have no idea the kinds of things I'm expected to put up with.  I'm certainly not coddled like those knee-grows and messicans.  It's a burden.


"shiat, there ain't a white man in this room that would change places with me. None of you would change places with me. And l'm rich! That's how good it is to be white. There's a white, one-legged busboy in here right now... that won't change places with my black ass. He's going, ''No, man, l don't wanna switch. l wanna ride this white thing out."

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-09-18 09:05:41 AM
Well, I've met my pseudo-christian derp quota for the day.

I really shouldn't have read that right after breakfast.
 
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2013-09-18 09:06:07 AM

factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.


When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.
 
2013-09-18 09:13:13 AM

clancifer: How everyone else sees their plight:


Waka waka waka
 
2013-09-18 09:13:30 AM
OK, lets take a look at this list.

Two guys arrested for reading their Bibles at the DMV.  Well, that does sound shady.  Let's drop their names into the googles and see what else we can find on the case.

Well, it turns out they weren't just reading their Bibles.  They were reading out loud and preaching to everyone who was standing in line.  Yeah, it think that was good bust.  The DMV isn't your church.  I'd expect the cops to arrest anyone in there who starts yelling about sky-wizards, flaming bushes, and zombies.

Oh, and he's even got the Air Force vet who's up on charges for opposing gay marriage.  Or, as you find out if you dig a bit, he's up on charges for refusing to tell one of his junior airmen who was teaching a training class that he can't run off at the mouth about how homo's shouldn't be allowed in the military.  And he's upset that when he talked to investigators they read him his rights.  Because apparently he thinks cops don't do that to everyone they interrogate .
 
2013-09-18 09:16:32 AM
Discrimination is not a protected religious activity
 
2013-09-18 09:17:09 AM
OK, here goes:

1. Yeah, that seems pretty bad. Can we get some more details by any chance? Was this just some misinformed moron, or was this actual policy?

2.    It's well known that the IRS targeted his political enemies in the Tea Party, but the IRS also targeted his Christian enemies in the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Actually, what is well  known amongst those with functioning brains, is that the IRS targeted groups on both sides of the aisle. Besides, how often have you been audited, and when was the last time? An audit means nothing assholes, people get audited by the IRS all of the time. Otherwise, a bunch of comedians would have a big hole in their routines.

3. So your problem is that the courts decided that what they were doing is fine. Got it. Ohhhh, it was because they got arrested for reading the Bible. Hope you got your panties in the same bunch when the Occupy people got arrested... Or even better, I hope you were outraged when those protesters in Berkeley got pepper sprayed. You see where this is going, right?

4. Yeah, I'm not happy about this one, whenever some version hits the news. The Folk should be able to find another way to express their displeasure. I find it hilarious though that one of their examples of discrimination is that the business owner couldn't discriminate against someone, that seems to me like you wouldn't want it on the list.

5. This one seems like it hasn't really been established yet. Right now, it's a bunch of He said, She said. Why don't you get back to us when you have a case?

6. Yeah, we have to get permits for everything, assholes. That includes permits to tie up public lands for group events. Man up. I KNOW that you plan your baptism parties in advance, getting a permit is nothing more than what the rest of America goes through.

7. Wait, nobody discriminated because the farking University IMMEDIATELY stopped these proceedings AND suspended the professor involved?

Seriously, you farktards need to learn what discrimination actually is, especially since you're so good at discriminating against other groups... LOL, putting the cake one in is priceless. "I'm being discriminated against because I tried to discriminate against someone first!!!".
 
2013-09-18 09:17:51 AM

d23: factoryconnection: urbangirl: Local elected officials are responding by doubling down on city council meeting prayers and their attorneys are backing them up.

Everyone likes a theocracy when it is their particular brand in charge.

When "Christian" becomes the official religion then the Baptists will start with the crap that the Catholics aren't real Christians.  It doesn't end.  If you're against genocide then separation of church and state is the only sane policy.


well... Catholics aren't Christian. They are Idolaters
 
2013-09-18 09:20:53 AM
OK #4 and #5 were the only ones that sound like discrimination and I'm too lazy to research those further to see if the author omitted some key details.

#7 is the one that amazed me the most -- as this was an example where the system actually upheld the Christian follower's right to his religious beliefs but somehow he was the one being discriminated against.
 
2013-09-18 09:23:07 AM

Mikey1969: 7. Wait, nobody discriminated because the farking University IMMEDIATELY stopped these proceedings AND suspended the professor involved?

Seriously, you farktards need to learn what discrimination actually is, especially since you're so good at discriminating against other groups... LOL, putting the cake one in is priceless. "I'm being discriminated against because I tried to discriminate against someone first!!!".


The disciminaton in this case only stopped because the Govenor became involved. The University (had the Govenor not been involved) would have punished the student and the professor would have gotten away scott free. I think the point of that one is that it shouldn't have happened in the first place, nor should that action have been supported by the University in question.

Discrimination is not martydom. They are two wholly independent things. A martyr is always the target of discrimination, but the target of discrimination is not always a martyr.
 
2013-09-18 09:25:08 AM
1. That's not discrimination. That's somebody finally getting around to enforcing the establishment clause.
2. The IRS scandal, in all its forms, was legitimate government discrimination, but it wasn't against Christians.
3. That's not discrimination. Being an annoying bastard to a captive audience was thought to be a crime, it turns out that it wasn't. This is how the law works.
4. That is discrimination... and the Christians were the ones doing the discriminating, but as it was a private business they should have that right. Don't shop there if you don't like it.
5. The good old 'simple disagreement' defense. If your religion said it was okay to discriminate against people based on race, gender, or religious practices (all of which it does by the way) would it be okay for you as a military officer to advocate it because your religion says so?
6. If you want special and exclusive permission to use a public park for something, then get a permit, otherwise if I show up and start running a jet ski up and down the place which disrupts your baptism, you don't get to complain about it.
7. Oh my they actually got 1 out of 7 right! They really did find actual honest to goodness discrimination against Christians that was legitimately wrong. I will give them this one. They are actually correct.
 
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