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2013-09-18 12:45:28 AM  
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2013-09-18 12:52:13 AM  
I see the NRA isn't wasting any time trying to spin this.
 
2013-09-18 12:53:37 AM  
www.commonsenseevaluation.com
 
2013-09-18 01:00:32 AM  
carriewelborn.com
 
2013-09-18 01:06:04 AM  
 
2013-09-18 01:14:35 AM  
In fact, it was only the shooter's possession of a gun which enabled the heroic armed citizens to save people.

/can I have my NRA lobbying check now, or do I have to go sucker-punch a nun or something first?
 
2013-09-18 01:32:15 AM  
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Get down off the cross honey, somebody needs the wood.
 
2013-09-18 01:53:09 AM  
Excuse me while I whip this out. . .
 
2013-09-18 08:17:38 AM  
So recapping our score:

Lives saved: a couple dozen over a bunch of years
Lives lost: over 6100 in the last nine months.


MisterTweak: In fact, it was only the shooter's possession of a gun which enabled the heroic armed citizens to save people.

 

Can somebody post stories about unarmed people taking down shooters? I'll wager there are more of those than the armed types.
 
2013-09-18 08:20:28 AM  
I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-18 08:23:20 AM  
The sad thing is that almost all of them were military or off duty or retired cops.  Even reaching back 20 years they could only come up with a couple of examples of ordinary citizens stopping shootings.

It's too bad we don't have a list of people who didn't commit mass killings because they didn't have a gun.
 
2013-09-18 08:32:13 AM  
vpb:
It's too bad we don't have a list of people who didn't commit mass killings because they didn't have a gun.

That's really impossible to determine.  It is true that is someone is hell bent on mass murder, smart enough and patient enough nothing is going to stop them.  But on the other hand, having a gun sure as hell makes it a lot easier and a lot more prone to do on an impulse or a whim.  Those are just vague notions though, there's really no way to get statistics on that one.

I mean look at mcveigh (I don't capitalize the names of terrorists), he was hell bent on what he was going to do, patient, didn't seem too troubled that he'd be caught, there wasn't anything that was going to stop him.  This asshole, without guns he may well have just decided it was too hard or moved on to another thing.  We'll never know that for sure though.
 
2013-09-18 08:32:27 AM  
Penis.
 
2013-09-18 08:33:24 AM  
Notice somebody died in all of those stories.  Wouldn't have been the case if nobody involved had been armed.  Well, they might have stabbed people with enchanted unicorn horns or something, but they wouldn't have shot anyone.
 
2013-09-18 08:34:11 AM  

nekom: I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.


Why would the gun nuts want to keep guns out of the hands of gun nuts?
 
2013-09-18 08:37:41 AM  
Oh look, buzzfeed.

*not clicking*
 
2013-09-18 08:38:10 AM  

serial_crusher: Notice somebody died in all of those stories.  Wouldn't have been the case if nobody involved had been armed.  Well, they might have stabbed people with enchanted unicorn horns or something, but they wouldn't have shot anyone.


That would just be rude, because don't unicorn horns heal wounds?  So all the pain and shock of a stabbing but then it heals so they can keep jabbing you repeatedly?

vpb: The sad thing is that almost all of them were military or off duty or retired cops.  Even reaching back 20 years they could only come up with a couple of examples of ordinary citizens stopping shootings.


I noticed that, too.  Tough though people fancy themselves to be, there is only one way to learn how to deal with peril: training and experience.  Rookie cops, firefighters and junior military personnel are flummoxed by calamity until they get enough training and experience hammered into their skulls.  After that it becomes a matter of habit to react calmly.
 
2013-09-18 08:39:14 AM  

SilentStrider: Oh look, buzzfeed.

*not clicking*


It's go the full list on one paa-aaaggee... pretty temp-tiiiing!
 
2013-09-18 08:40:17 AM  

nekom: I mean look at mcveigh (I don't capitalize the names of terrorists)


I know.  That greedy bastard wanted two capital letters in his last name too.  Freaking attention whore.
 
2013-09-18 08:42:16 AM  

factoryconnection: vpb: The sad thing is that almost all of them were military or off duty or retired cops. Even reaching back 20 years they could only come up with a couple of examples of ordinary citizens stopping shootings.

I noticed that, too. Tough though people fancy themselves to be, there is only one way to learn how to deal with peril: training and experience. Rookie cops, firefighters and junior military personnel are flummoxed by calamity until they get enough training and experience hammered into their skulls. After that it becomes a matter of habit to react calmly.


Hmm, what if we made a few years of military or police service required to qualify for personal gun ownership?  We'd have to amend the constitution, but I'd be ok with it.
 
2013-09-18 08:48:25 AM  

serial_crusher: Hmm, what if we made a few years of military or police service required to qualify for personal gun ownership? We'd have to amend the constitution, but I'd be ok with it.


Hell we can't even keep guns (and security badges) out of the hands of no-kidding, documented nut cases.  I think we're beyond the tipping point of stopping these seemingly regular occurrences of mass shooting.  The WNY massacre hits me close to home because Alexis was right outside the office of my NAVSEA support program, and I mean "at the end of their cubicle row" not "in the next building."  Although I do know people that were in the next building as well.  But nothing is going to change in general, just security at military installations and scrutiny of contractor access.
 
2013-09-18 09:28:45 AM  
I wonder how many armed shooters have been subdued by people armed with a Buick.
 
2013-09-18 09:51:05 AM  
What?  You mean Slate's article yesterday was wrong?
 
2013-09-18 09:52:45 AM  

RoyBatty: http://www.fark.com/comments/7937529/In-past-30-years-not-a-single-ma s s-shooting-has-been-stopped-by-an-armed-civilian

Thread fight!


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2013-09-18 09:53:49 AM  

slayer199: What?  You mean Slate's article yesterday was wrong?


I know, right? Who woulda thunk it, being based on a Mother Jones database and all....
 
2013-09-18 09:54:06 AM  
DNRTFA, however, kudos for the headline subby.
 
2013-09-18 09:54:47 AM  
Any other website and my first thought wouldn't be about them exploiting a tragedy for clicks.
 
2013-09-18 09:55:25 AM  
In December of last year, gunfire broke out in a San Antonio movie theater. Moviegoers rushed to exists

I rush to exists too
 
2013-09-18 09:55:38 AM  

nekom: I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.


You'd be surprised - a lot of gun rights folks WANT to do this.  They are just looking for a way to do it without punishing legal, sane gun owners
 
2013-09-18 09:56:12 AM  

serial_crusher: factoryconnection: vpb: The sad thing is that almost all of them were military or off duty or retired cops. Even reaching back 20 years they could only come up with a couple of examples of ordinary citizens stopping shootings.

I noticed that, too. Tough though people fancy themselves to be, there is only one way to learn how to deal with peril: training and experience. Rookie cops, firefighters and junior military personnel are flummoxed by calamity until they get enough training and experience hammered into their skulls. After that it becomes a matter of habit to react calmly.

Hmm, what if we made a few years of military or police service required to qualify for personal gun ownership?  We'd have to amend the constitution, but I'd be ok with it.


Honestly, we should go the Heinlein route where citizenship is earned. Then we could deny rights to anyone who wasn't willing to work for them. Bet we'd get more than a 50% voter turnout if you had to do a tour of duty in some Middle Eastern country.
 
2013-09-18 09:56:34 AM  
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2013-09-18 09:57:06 AM  

RoyBatty: http://www.fark.com/comments/7937529/In-past-30-years-not-a-single-ma s s-shooting-has-been-stopped-by-an-armed-civilian

Thread fight!


I've got my money on this tread since the reporter who wrote the article did more thorough research than just, "I read a bunch of articles that said I'm right, so there!"
 
2013-09-18 09:58:17 AM  
Didn't another story earlier say this kind of thing never happens?
 
2013-09-18 09:58:25 AM  
Reminiscing about all of these shootings really brings back memories.

Those were the days.
 
2013-09-18 09:58:49 AM  

edmo: So recapping our score:

Lives saved: a couple dozen over a bunch of years
Lives lost: over 6100 in the last nine months.


Armed men and women took out around 130,000 civilians in the past decade.

...but enough about that war we started with Iraq.
 
2013-09-18 09:59:02 AM  
Well I guess in the past 30 years mass shootings have been stopped by a civilian with a gun... heh!
 
2013-09-18 10:00:25 AM  
Even the linked article doesn't claim Clackamas was stopped.this way.
 
2013-09-18 10:00:40 AM  

nekom: I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.


We are having a discussion on how we can do just that on gun forums everywhere. This is not a gun control issue though this is a mental health issue.
 
2013-09-18 10:00:50 AM  
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2013-09-18 10:00:52 AM  
So we can all feel better knowing all those dead people were just pussies who refused to carry.

/I have no problem with people carrying guns legally but this article seems in bad taste.
 
2013-09-18 10:01:50 AM  

nekom: I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.


Why did the various police and prosecutorial agencies in multiple states let the Navy Yard shooter walk without prosecution?

Why did the Navy let him walk without a dishonorable discharge?

the "powers that be" could have prevented him from acquiring a gun or could have at least made it more difficult for him to acquire one.

Did they feel sorry for him? Were they afraid of being labeled racists?


The guy has a history of hearing things and raging out against people.......why is it my responsibility to come up with ways to keep firearms out of his hands when odds are the powers that be will not do anything about it when given a chance?
 
2013-09-18 10:02:13 AM  

youmightberight: nekom: I'll GLADLY concede that a responsible gun owner is a great thing to have around at certain times if the 2nd amendment crowd will concede that we should probably do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics in the first place.

We are having a discussion on how we can do just that on gun forums everywhere. This is not a gun control issue though this is a mental health issue.


Dammit don't bring logic into our herp an derp threads!!!
 
2013-09-18 10:02:44 AM  

youmightberight: We are having a discussion on how we can do just that on gun forums everywhere. This is not a gun control issue though this is a mental health issue.


The best solutions the right wing has to offer on that front seems to be cut funding for social services that help the destitute and insane.
 
2013-09-18 10:03:31 AM  
Jesus fark, Gretchen. Stop trying to make Buzzfeed happen.
 
2013-09-18 10:03:41 AM  

edmo: So recapping our score:

Lives saved: a couple dozen over a bunch of years
Lives lost: over 6100 in the last nine months.


MisterTweak: In fact, it was only the shooter's possession of a gun which enabled the heroic armed citizens to save people.
 

Can somebody post stories about unarmed people taking down shooters? I'll wager there are more of those than the armed types.


There was that school incident a few weeks ago where one of the school administrative people talked a gunman into surrendering. Also, the Gabby Giffords shooter was taken down by several unarmed bystanders, including one who has been shot. The Colin Ferguson shooting in 1993 ended when Colin Ferguson was tackled by several passengers on a train car after killing 6 people.

There was the Richland High School shooting in 1995, where the shooter was tackled by a football coach and a student. The shooter in the Chardon High School shooting was chased away by a teacher. Weston High School shooting ended when shooter was wrested away from his weapon by students. Campbell County High School shooting ended when the shooter was apprehended by a teacher. The Rocori high school shooting was stopped by the gunman surrendering to a teacher. The Thurston High School Shooting ended when a wounded student tackled the gunman.
 
2013-09-18 10:03:42 AM  
 Mostly cops stop a few killers from killing a few more people?  "Fell short"?  What does that mean?

Shocking twist.

How many dead from misuse of firearms, subby?
 
2013-09-18 10:04:02 AM  
Everyone should carry guns, just itching for the chance to use it on some punk that crosses the line.  I can't tell you what the line is, you'll know it when you see it, because you're Dirty Harry.
 
2013-09-18 10:04:43 AM  
Uisce Beatha:
You'd be surprised - a lot of gun rights folks WANT to do this.  They are just looking for a way to do it without punishing legal, sane gun owners

I'm sure some are, but no doubt you know the type that thinks ANY restriction on ANY gun for ANY reason is grounds to whargarble.  I'm a gun owner myself, and I'm also a parent.  I realize that guns are never going away in this country, but I fully support measures to weed out the looney tunes.  This guy was a giant walking red flag, perhaps this is a case where something actually COULD be done to prevent something like this from happening again without putting any undue hardship on the millions of sportsmen and other responsible gun owners, myself included.

I'll admit it's an emotional response, but Sandy Hook really got to me, as I have a daughter that age who attends 1st grade this year.  I'd really appreciate it if we could prevent a lunatic from barging in there and shooting up the place.
 
2013-09-18 10:04:43 AM  
Don't worry, gun nuts, BuzzFeed has come to your rescue!

/snert
//chortle
///guffaw
 
2013-09-18 10:05:26 AM  

nekom: vpb:
It's too bad we don't have a list of people who didn't commit mass killings because they didn't have a gun.

That's really impossible to determine.  It is true that is someone is hell bent on mass murder, smart enough and patient enough nothing is going to stop them.  But on the other hand, having a gun sure as hell makes it a lot easier and a lot more prone to do on an impulse or a whim.  Those are just vague notions though, there's really no way to get statistics on that one.

I mean look at mcveigh (I don't capitalize the names of terrorists), he was hell bent on what he was going to do, patient, didn't seem too troubled that he'd be caught, there wasn't anything that was going to stop him.  This asshole, without guns he may well have just decided it was too hard or moved on to another thing.  We'll never know that for sure though.


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Look at you trying to have a reasonable discussion on fark, how cute.
 
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