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(Ars Technica)   Pentagon puts all FOIA requests on hold until October because of: A) First Amendment challenges, B) reassignment of office staff, or C) broken fax machine   (arstechnica.com ) divider line
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2013-09-18 06:44:34 AM  
I for one think we should chuck fax machines out the windows. It's 2013.
 
2013-09-18 06:44:37 AM  
Pretty pathetic.. I remember selling thermal paper fax machines for 29.99, in the late 90's.  That's pocket change, even for me.
 
2013-09-18 07:02:04 AM  
Seems legit.
 
2013-09-18 07:17:36 AM  

Arkanaut: Seems legit.


Makes sense in Government logic.  The new FY starts October 1, and that's when they get next year's budget.  They've simply run out of money for this year and have to wait until "next year" to buy one.

Now... that doesn't make a damn bit of sense to a normal human... but this is the GOVERNMENT we're talking about.
 
2013-09-18 07:20:05 AM  
The sad part...is that this is fairly typical in government.
 
2013-09-18 07:21:28 AM  
C'mon, folks, it's almost Oktoberfest! Can't your silly FOI requests wait?

Drink a few maßkrüge and call back next year.
 
2013-09-18 07:25:04 AM  

rogue49: The sad part...is that this is fairly typical in government.


And yet, I get the distinct feeling that we're going to hear whining about it because a Democrat is in office.
 
2013-09-18 07:33:39 AM  

Rhino_man: Arkanaut: Seems legit.

Makes sense in Government logic.  The new FY starts October 1, and that's when they get next year's budget.  They've simply run out of money for this year and have to wait until "next year" to buy one.

Now... that doesn't make a damn bit of sense to a normal human... but this is the GOVERNMENT we're talking about.


Well, that is what happens when government agencies aren't allowed to take on debt. Only Congress is allowed to take on debt
 
2013-09-18 08:11:57 AM  
has nobody heard of CutePDF and email!??

Must be one of those "special" fax machines with an encrypter.
 
2013-09-18 08:56:13 AM  

LordJiro: rogue49: The sad part...is that this is fairly typical in government.

And yet, I get the distinct feeling that we're going to hear whining about it because a Democrat is in office.


Huh, I was getting the feeling that it would be about the sequester. Of course, that's the same thing, really. Would there be a sequester if a Democrat weren't in office?
 
2013-09-18 09:23:55 AM  
FTA: " But the web portal is problematic, to say the least-the site seems to be designed to discourage FOIA submissions and makes it impossible for automated requests to be sent. "


Really? You don't want automated FOIA request, each of which cost thousands of dollars to handle. I'm shocked.
 
2013-09-18 11:03:50 AM  
Uh... I have a few old ones lying around.  I'd be happy to donate one/all of them.
 
2013-09-18 11:14:48 AM  
Now they are just farking with us.

They have even stopped pretending they care.
 
2013-09-18 12:43:19 PM  
Who the fark uses FAX machines anymore?
 
2013-09-18 01:16:36 PM  

Rhino_man: Arkanaut: Seems legit.

Makes sense in Government logic.  The new FY starts October 1, and that's when they get next year's budget.  They've simply run out of money for this year and have to wait until "next year" to buy one.

Now... that doesn't make a damn bit of sense to a normal human... but this is the GOVERNMENT we're talking about.


Private business does the same thing. Though in a private business, probably some manager would have just bought one and went over budget, or bought one and personally eaten the cost, neither of which are available to government agencies AFAIK.
 
2013-09-18 01:41:16 PM  
Or to translate that into civilian speech: "go piss up a rope".
 
2013-09-18 03:37:11 PM  
If I can check off boxes on my tax return to voluntarily contribute to various things, why can't I just buy the damned DoD a fax machine as a gift?

Gaseous Anomaly: bought one and personally eaten the cost, neither of which are available to government agencies AFAIK


Not the same league, but a lot of public school teachers spend money out-of-pocket for supplies. Are not local school districts government agencies?
 
2013-09-18 03:47:59 PM  

AndreMA: If I can check off boxes on my tax return to voluntarily contribute to various things, why can't I just buy the damned DoD a fax machine as a gift?

Gaseous Anomaly: bought one and personally eaten the cost, neither of which are available to government agencies AFAIK

Not the same league, but a lot of public school teachers spend money out-of-pocket for supplies. Are not local school districts government agencies?


Good point about the teachers, and, likewise to your gift-the-DoD-a-fax-machine proposal, parents buy classroom supplies too.

OTOH, in standard corporate compliance training, they talk about rigorous requirements when dealing with government employees where you e.g. can't buy them lunch. On the third hand, maybe these don't apply unless you work for some company that competes for government contracts.
 
2013-09-19 12:10:50 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Rhino_man: Arkanaut: Seems legit.

Makes sense in Government logic.  The new FY starts October 1, and that's when they get next year's budget.  They've simply run out of money for this year and have to wait until "next year" to buy one.

Now... that doesn't make a damn bit of sense to a normal human... but this is the GOVERNMENT we're talking about.

Well, that is what happens when government agencies aren't allowed to take on debt. Only Congress is allowed to take on debt


Please note: I wasn't talking about the Pentagon in general... Government budgets are so damn segmented, that I'm able to talk specifically about the Pentagon's FOIA office.  If the FOIA office ran out of money for the year, tough shiat.  No borrowing from the guys next door who are scrambling to spend what's left of theirs.  You're just not going to process any FOIA requests.

/Former Communications Chief of 2nd Maintenance Battalion, Camp Lejeune, NC.
//No farking way I'd have been able to bum off of legal, ops or admin when I ran out of funds 3 weeks before the FY closed.
 
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