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2013-09-17 08:29:15 PM  
Sometimes it's hard to find a good parking space.
 
2013-09-17 08:44:33 PM  
Well, at least they know it works...
 
2013-09-17 08:57:45 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-17 09:21:04 PM  
Hey, are those cars for sale? I can give you like fifty bucks.
 
2013-09-17 09:22:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Hey, are those cars for sale? I can give you like fifty bucks.


Sorry, bodies not included.
 
2013-09-17 09:24:05 PM  
This didn't end so well in the movie.

cdn-media.hollywood.com
 
2013-09-17 09:24:08 PM  
 
2013-09-17 09:25:02 PM  

simplicimus: NewportBarGuy: Hey, are those cars for sale? I can give you like fifty bucks.

Sorry, bodies not included.


The highest I can go is $25. I've got overhead and they're going to sit around for at least a few years.
 
2013-09-17 09:33:53 PM  
Yeah... they're dead. They're... all messed up.
 
2013-09-17 09:47:07 PM  
69 Camera? Such a waste.
 
2013-09-17 09:48:28 PM  
* Camero

DIAF Autocorrect
 
2013-09-17 10:06:58 PM  

vossiewulf: This didn't end so well in the movie.

[cdn-media.hollywood.com image 401x336]


....Ma?
 
2013-09-17 10:18:49 PM  
I saw a snippet of this on the news here.  Where the cars in close proximity to each other?  Anyway, with the bodies still inside, wonder if they just ran off a road.......
 
2013-09-17 10:19:35 PM  
Mr. Hinzelmann wanted for questioning.
 
2013-09-17 10:21:59 PM  
Did you notice the road? It looks like a runway into the lake.
It just stops, without any signage, or guard rail at the end so I'd imagine it's pretty easy to drive into when it's dark or during bad weather.
 
2013-09-17 10:35:05 PM  
I feel jaded, b/c the first thing I thought when I saw the pics was "what asshole ruined a 69 camaro?"
 
2013-09-17 10:36:30 PM  
I grew up near some quarries that were regularly dragged for bodies and submerged loot.  And not always by the authorities, if you know what I mean.

Good times.
 
2013-09-17 10:39:18 PM  

TommyymmoT: Did you notice the road? It looks like a runway into the lake.
It just stops, without any signage, or guard rail at the end so I'd imagine it's pretty easy to drive into when it's dark or during bad weather.


That's a boat ramp.  They pulled the cars out onto it.  Looking on the map, it's not really evident how two cars could drive off the road at the same location.  It looks like dropping off route 43 is most likely, but maybe the roads were different 40 years ago.  Or maybe people hit the boat ramp at speed because of poor signage, but I would think they'd be visible to other people dropping off their boats.

img5.imageshack.us
 
2013-09-17 10:53:50 PM  
It would probably be a good idea to stake this place out, I am not a cop but this looks like a pattern developing.
 
2013-09-17 11:04:16 PM  
So it's practically paid for itself already!
 
2013-09-17 11:05:24 PM  
Pfffft...

They should see what's in the old tool shed of my apartment complex.


Oooops.


Nevermind.
 
2013-09-17 11:08:14 PM  

basemetal: I saw a snippet of this on the news here.  Where the cars in close proximity to each other?  Anyway, with the bodies still inside, wonder if they just ran off a road.......



c85c7a.medialib.glogster.com
Yeah, that's the ticket... That's exactly what happened.
 
2013-09-17 11:08:58 PM  
Police should all be equipped with this type of high tech tool.
 
2013-09-17 11:10:54 PM  

Lsherm: TommyymmoT: Did you notice the road? It looks like a runway into the lake.
It just stops, without any signage, or guard rail at the end so I'd imagine it's pretty easy to drive into when it's dark or during bad weather.

That's a boat ramp.  They pulled the cars out onto it.  Looking on the map, it's not really evident how two cars could drive off the road at the same location.  It looks like dropping off route 43 is most likely, but maybe the roads were different 40 years ago.  Or maybe people hit the boat ramp at speed because of poor signage, but I would think they'd be visible to other people dropping off their boats.

[img5.imageshack.us image 850x594]


They were misled by GPS.
 
2013-09-17 11:11:52 PM  
Surprised this didn't happen in Fark's favorite state. They find lots of long lost cars in canals in Florida when they start looking.
 
2013-09-17 11:12:19 PM  
Camaro? Looks like an RS, definitely not a Z28.
 
2013-09-17 11:12:33 PM  
I don't know what's more tragic, the story, or the Facebook comments...
 
2013-09-17 11:12:52 PM  
What a terrible way for a '69 Camaro to die. :(
 
2013-09-17 11:14:19 PM  
☠  ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠
♪ ♫  They never come back from Custer Lake Road
 
2013-09-17 11:14:31 PM  
"skeletal remains of six people in two separate cars were discovered in Foss Lake Tuesday afternoon. "

"...he believes the remains belong to a couple last seen in Canute in the early 1960s. The two were reportedly on their way to Foss Lake and never seen again "

Apparently they found the lake.
 
2013-09-17 11:14:57 PM  

Paris1127: basemetal: I saw a snippet of this on the news here.  Where the cars in close proximity to each other?  Anyway, with the bodies still inside, wonder if they just ran off a road.......


[c85c7a.medialib.glogster.com image 636x477]
Yeah, that's the ticket... That's exactly what happened.


A little different when the driver goes down with the car.  They'll have a hard time proving foul play.  The first thing I would check is what gear is the transmission is in, we can already tell the windows were up.
 
2013-09-17 11:15:56 PM  
The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.
 
2013-09-17 11:18:43 PM  

vossiewulf: This didn't end so well in the movie.


Redhead thread!
 
2013-09-17 11:19:54 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.


That's creepy as hell. But I'm guessing the lake was too muddy to see anything (otherwise two whole cars would have been noticed at some point the last 40 years)
 
2013-09-17 11:20:02 PM  
I know from having lived through the 70's, all there was to do in rural okla was to drive around and drink beer, (only 18 age limit at the time), and throw in youth and a fast car...........

/lots of accidents from that time
 
2013-09-17 11:22:03 PM  
If they would have found a third with 3, that would have been like a trifecta of trifectas
 
2013-09-17 11:23:06 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.


Bravo!
 
2013-09-17 11:25:23 PM  
Holy shiat, the comments on that article. Wow, they sure know how to bring the stupid.
 
2013-09-17 11:29:17 PM  
One missing set of people from the early '60s and another from the early '70s.

They should check their files for the early '80s s well and check the rest of the lake.
 
2013-09-17 11:29:35 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.


Awesome. I am so ready for Halloween.
 
2013-09-17 11:32:41 PM  

basemetal: I know from having lived through the 70's, all there was to do in rural okla was to drive around and drink beer, (only 18 age limit at the time), and throw in youth and a fast car...........

/lots of accidents from that time




Cock fighting. Don't forget cock fighting.
 
2013-09-17 11:33:11 PM  
They didn't call that bend in the old dirt road Deadman's Curve for nothing.
 
2013-09-17 11:33:52 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Police should all be equipped with this type of high tech tool.


The flaw in your plan is that it's really hard to ticket dead people. For public safety, I mean.
 
2013-09-17 11:34:32 PM  
Bit surprised that 3 sets of parents of teenagers didn't try harder to figure out where their kids had gone?

You'd think that if they'd gone off the road there would have been some marks, or if they went down the boat ramp that it would be an obvious place to start looking.
 
2013-09-17 11:35:21 PM  

jaybeezey: One missing set of people from the early '60s and another from the early '70s.

They should check their files for the early '80s s well and check the rest of the lake.


But... which should they do first? Because pulling unresolved reports of missing persons and vehicles and then going and finding them in the lake would be creepy as all fark.
 
2013-09-17 11:38:47 PM  

vossiewulf: This didn't end so well in the movie.

[cdn-media.hollywood.com image 401x336]


Rocky Dennis?
 
2013-09-17 11:39:04 PM  

mrlewish: "skeletal remains of six people in two separate cars were discovered in Foss Lake Tuesday afternoon. "

"...he believes the remains belong to a couple last seen in Canute in the early 1960s. The two were reportedly on their way to Foss Lake and never seen again "

Apparently they found the lake.


Window seat please.
 
2013-09-17 11:40:07 PM  
www.iamnotastalker.com
 
2013-09-17 11:40:27 PM  

HempHead: basemetal: I know from having lived through the 70's, all there was to do in rural okla was to drive around and drink beer, (only 18 age limit at the time), and throw in youth and a fast car...........

/lots of accidents from that time

Cock fighting. Don't forget cock fighting.


I've actually been to one of those once.  Can't say I had a lot of fun, but a lot of money changed hands there.   (very early 80's
 
2013-09-17 11:42:15 PM  
They had Apple Maps back then?
 
2013-09-17 11:42:23 PM  
They were good kids. They were all good kids.
 
2013-09-17 11:43:14 PM  
There was a case in Delaware about fifeteen years ago. The water level in the Chesapeake and Delaware Canal receded jut a bit and someone spotted a car by one of the bridges. They haul out a 1950's era car with two skeletons in it. It turned out that it was a married doctor and his single, much younger nurse. They had run away together They hit the bridge at a funky angle at high speed  and ended up in the canal. The police didn't even have a file on the case. They concluded back when the couple disappeared that they had run off together and had no desire to be found so the cops never even bothered looking for them. They made it about thirty miles from the doctor's office before they died.
 
2013-09-17 11:44:50 PM  
I'd check to see where Aaron Hernadez's grandfather was for the first one and where the father was for the second.
 
2013-09-17 11:48:21 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.


Dude look at those losers!
I bet we can TOTALLY hold our breaths longer than they can...
 
2013-09-17 11:52:13 PM  

hardinparamedic: Holy shiat, the comments on that article. Wow, they sure know how to bring the stupid.


It's Oklahoma, these people seem almost mensa-like.
 
2013-09-18 12:00:49 AM  

jaybeezey: One missing set of people from the early '60s and another from the early '70s.

They should check their files for the early '80s s well and check the rest of the lake.


Why not Early 90s and early 00s?
 
2013-09-18 12:01:23 AM  

hardinparamedic: Holy shiat, the comments on that article. Wow, they sure know how to bring the stupid.


I'm copying some down for use in later Fark threads.
 
2013-09-18 12:02:53 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Yo, was it my dang Mustang? I tell ya what, I'm still not A-oh-okay with that dag blasted Gribble being such a bad steerin' driver...
 
2013-09-18 12:09:51 AM  
It's in the trunk...
 
2013-09-18 12:15:16 AM  

vossiewulf: This didn't end so well in the movie.

[cdn-media.hollywood.com image 401x336]


Only slightly more frightening than Alice Krige's IMDB photo.
 
2013-09-18 12:16:17 AM  
How deep is that lake? I can't see where going into the water at the edge of a boat ramp would render them invisible.
 
2013-09-18 12:22:02 AM  
WTH did the cops do to that poor Camaro?!? Mistake it for a bomb and decide to detonate the ass-end of it?!?
Be careful with that shiat! SOME people might have liked to have picked it over for parts!

Oh yeah, RIP dead people.
 
2013-09-18 12:23:38 AM  

Ex-Texan: Camaro? Looks like an RS, definitely not a Z28.


Not an RS. The RS had hidden headlights. Not an SS either since it doesn't have the grille badge. Most likely just a standard Camaro.
 
2013-09-18 12:35:56 AM  
It's weird but not that much of a coincidence if it is/was a tricky road, or one that could confuse someone who's not used to it (or is drunk, which doesn't help). There have been lots of cases over the years of people who went missing mysteriously and then a few years or decades later it's discovered that they went off a road or a bridge in their car. (If I remember correctly, this happened to Milt Pappas's wife). If nobody witnessed the accident at the time and it wasn't known that the person would be driving in that particular area, investigators would be extremely lucky to find traces of the accident before they were all wiped out by time or weather, unless there was something really obvious like a broken railing over a river.
 
2013-09-18 12:37:53 AM  
Crap.
 
2013-09-18 12:37:59 AM  
That's some fine police work there Lou...

/no, seriously.
 
2013-09-18 12:43:21 AM  

Oldiron_79: jaybeezey: One missing set of people from the early '60s and another from the early '70s.

They should check their files for the early '80s s well and check the rest of the lake.

Why not Early 90s and early 00s?




Modern day cars contain few metal parts and float.
 
2013-09-18 12:45:45 AM  

RenownedCurator: unless there was something really obvious like a broken railing over a river.


County Officials speaking about the subject:
"Hey Bob, that safety rail looks like it just exploded in toward the lake over here"
"Yeah Dave, probably some kids with some fireworks, get the works crew out there and just replace it, don't want anyone crashing into the lake, that lawsuit'd be our asses!."
 
2013-09-18 12:47:42 AM  
I have seen Hot Fuzz so just have one question - does this town have a neighbourhood watch?
 
2013-09-18 12:49:43 AM  

goatleggedfellow: vossiewulf: This didn't end so well in the movie.

[cdn-media.hollywood.com image 401x336]

Only slightly more frightening than Alice Krige's IMDB photo.


Interestingly, a reverse image search of that turns up results for Andie MacDowell and Benedict Cumberbatch. I think they need new agents.
 
2013-09-18 12:50:42 AM  

TheMega: WTH did the cops do to that poor Camaro?!? Mistake it for a bomb and decide to detonate the ass-end of it?!?
Be careful with that shiat! SOME people might have liked to have picked it over for parts!


Looks like the ass end may have swung out and hit a tree before it went in the water.  All that can't be damage from pulling it out.

img541.imageshack.us
 
2013-09-18 12:52:07 AM  
From the comments in TFA, pretty interesting (and sad) stuff.

Also, link has original pics of the camero, for you car buffs that have been discussing it.
 
2013-09-18 12:56:44 AM  
And my lord, after reading the comments in the TFA, they're going round and round about the facts presented in the article more than Farkers in a gun thread.

I thought Farkers were bad about not reading the article...
 
2013-09-18 01:01:51 AM  

Elegy: And my lord, after reading the comments in the TFA, they're going round and round about the facts presented in the article more than Farkers in a gun thread.

I thought Farkers were bad about not reading the article...


Has anyone blamed Obama and/or the new Mooslum Miss Amerika yet?
 
2013-09-18 01:05:39 AM  

mjjt: Bit surprised that 3 sets of parents of teenagers didn't try harder to figure out where their kids had gone?

You'd think that if they'd gone off the road there would have been some marks, or if they went down the boat ramp that it would be an obvious place to start looking.


Not necessarily, at least not that you might notice. Search methods weren't quite as sophisticated in the 70's and especially the 60's as they are today.

Also--and being from a similar rural area in about the same time frame--the first thing cops used to think of when a carload of kids in their teens went missing was not "They are probably dead in a lake, we better look there." It was "They probably ran away from home, we better check the nearest big city." Especially the ones in the 70's, they probably figured they ran off to be hippies or something.

So while nowadays the lake is an obvious place to look, in the 70's, not so much. People didn't think of kids being dead as much back then.
 
2013-09-18 01:11:41 AM  

phrawgh: Elegy: And my lord, after reading the comments in the TFA, they're going round and round about the facts presented in the article more than Farkers in a gun thread.

I thought Farkers were bad about not reading the article...

Has anyone blamed Obama and/or the new Mooslum Miss Amerika yet?


Nope, it's mostly just a bunch of idiots going "WOW! I wonder how they found them!" and "Gee! I wonder who these people were!"

With a bunch of other people going "read the article blah blah blah"

Over. And over. And over again.
 
2013-09-18 01:14:28 AM  
SO DID ANYONE MENTION NEIL GAIMAN'S DUMB NOVEL AND THE EERIE PARALLELS OR WHAT YOU GUISE
 
2013-09-18 01:16:46 AM  

gnosis301: So it's practically paid for itself already!


Not really
Just imagine the hit that their county budget is going to take tracking down all this new evidense, foresnic investigation, potential lawsuits, the list goes on and on
If this is a normal size US county. This will seriously put them into bankrupcy
Chances are, they will dump their new sonar device in some neighboring county lake
However, could make a good "Cold Case" show
Maybe they could sell the rights, and recoup some od their loses
 
2013-09-18 01:18:21 AM  

Gyrfalcon: mjjt: Bit surprised that 3 sets of parents of teenagers didn't try harder to figure out where their kids had gone?

You'd think that if they'd gone off the road there would have been some marks, or if they went down the boat ramp that it would be an obvious place to start looking.

Not necessarily, at least not that you might notice. Search methods weren't quite as sophisticated in the 70's and especially the 60's as they are today.

Also--and being from a similar rural area in about the same time frame--the first thing cops used to think of when a carload of kids in their teens went missing was not "They are probably dead in a lake, we better look there." It was "They probably ran away from home, we better check the nearest big city." Especially the ones in the 70's, they probably figured they ran off to be hippies or something.

So while nowadays the lake is an obvious place to look, in the 70's, not so much. People didn't think of kids being dead as much back then.


When the Kingsbury Run Torso Killer was killing people in Cleveland, the authorities found a body on a train between Cleveland and New Castle. So they started dragging the lakes around the tracks. Found plenty of bodies not of which were related to the Torso killings. It must have been a Mafia body dump.
 
2013-09-18 01:18:33 AM  

Elegy: phrawgh: Elegy: And my lord, after reading the comments in the TFA, they're going round and round about the facts presented in the article more than Farkers in a gun thread.

I thought Farkers were bad about not reading the article...

Has anyone blamed Obama and/or the new Mooslum Miss Amerika yet?

Nope, it's mostly just a bunch of idiots going "WOW! I wonder how they found them!" and "Gee! I wonder who these people were!"

With a bunch of other people going "read the article blah blah blah"

Over. And over. And over again.


Must not have been linked to Drudge.

I swear, if Drudge links to a story about nuns giving away kittens and cookies to underprivedged children, they will find a way to blame Fartbongo.
 
2013-09-18 01:20:24 AM  

NewportBarGuy: American Decency Association: 24.media.tumblr.com

Because you deserve it... (pops)


Tears of joy, man, tears of joy.
 
2013-09-18 01:21:01 AM  

HempHead: Oldiron_79: jaybeezey: One missing set of people from the early '60s and another from the early '70s.

They should check their files for the early '80s s well and check the rest of the lake.

Why not Early 90s and early 00s?

Modern day cars contain few metal parts and float.


Well early 90s it wouldnt be unreasonable for someone to still be driving a 70s or early 80s lead sled.
 
2013-09-18 01:24:05 AM  

phrawgh: Elegy: phrawgh: Elegy: And my lord, after reading the comments in the TFA, they're going round and round about the facts presented in the article more than Farkers in a gun thread.

I thought Farkers were bad about not reading the article...

Has anyone blamed Obama and/or the new Mooslum Miss Amerika yet?

Nope, it's mostly just a bunch of idiots going "WOW! I wonder how they found them!" and "Gee! I wonder who these people were!"

With a bunch of other people going "read the article blah blah blah"

Over. And over. And over again.

Must not have been linked to Drudge.

I swear, if Drudge links to a story about nuns giving away kittens and cookies to underprivedged children, they will find a way to blame Fartbongo.


Haha, I steal a lot of my material from Drudge linked sites. You know, bring it to fark and share the wealth.
 
2013-09-18 01:24:40 AM  
...and then it became dark and mysterious words appeared in the sky...
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-09-18 01:38:25 AM  
How were these people found? So the cars didn't crash in at the same time? How many people were killed?
 
2013-09-18 01:46:08 AM  
There will probably always be a lot of unanswered questions, but at least we know they died doing what they loved.  All six of them.
 
2013-09-18 01:48:43 AM  

MrHappyRotter: There will probably always be a lot of unanswered questions, but at least we know they died doing what they loved. All six of them.


Gasping for air?
 
2013-09-18 01:49:10 AM  

nmrsnr: Mr. Hinzelmann wanted for questioning.


Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-09-18 01:51:28 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.

That's creepy as hell.


It should be, but when I try to imagine this, I automatically see it as drawn by Gary Larson.
 
2013-09-18 01:58:27 AM  
www.gimmebadvibes.com
 
2013-09-18 02:00:41 AM  

Kevin72: Surprised this didn't happen in Fark's favorite state. They find lots of long lost cars in canals in Florida when they start looking.


They are naturally inquisitive and they are productive, are they not?
 
2013-09-18 02:32:24 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Gyrfalcon: mjjt: Bit surprised that 3 sets of parents of teenagers didn't try harder to figure out where their kids had gone?

You'd think that if they'd gone off the road there would have been some marks, or if they went down the boat ramp that it would be an obvious place to start looking.

Not necessarily, at least not that you might notice. Search methods weren't quite as sophisticated in the 70's and especially the 60's as they are today.

Also--and being from a similar rural area in about the same time frame--the first thing cops used to think of when a carload of kids in their teens went missing was not "They are probably dead in a lake, we better look there." It was "They probably ran away from home, we better check the nearest big city." Especially the ones in the 70's, they probably figured they ran off to be hippies or something.

So while nowadays the lake is an obvious place to look, in the 70's, not so much. People didn't think of kids being dead as much back then.

When the Kingsbury Run Torso Killer was killing people in Cleveland, the authorities found a body on a train between Cleveland and New Castle. So they started dragging the lakes around the tracks. Found plenty of bodies not of which were related to the Torso killings. It must have been a Mafia body dump.


Which is interesting, but has exactly nothing to do with anything under discussion.
 
2013-09-18 02:44:15 AM  

EngineerBob: Noam Chimpsky: The three later ones probably saw the skeletons in the other car with the headlights. Last thing.

Dude look at those losers!
I bet we can TOTALLY hold our breaths longer than they can...



For a long, long time...

bullmurph.com
 
2013-09-18 03:09:39 AM  
Wanted for questioning
cdn.pastemagazine.com
 
2013-09-18 03:19:17 AM  
that's a glitch in the matrix.
some where in that office someone is in trouble for putting the 2nd car there......
 
2013-09-18 03:36:50 AM  
nmrsnr:Mr. Hinzelmann wanted for questioning.

Xcott: Leaving satisfied.


Somewhat satisfied, was the very first thing I though of after reading the headline...disappointed by lack of response from fellow Farkers though.
 
2013-09-18 06:33:42 AM  
Was one of the officials that discovered the bodies named Shadow?
 
2013-09-18 08:46:25 AM  

TheMega: WTH did the cops do to that poor Camaro?!? Mistake it for a bomb and decide to detonate the ass-end of it?!?
Be careful with that shiat! SOME people might have liked to have picked it over for parts!

Oh yeah, RIP dead people.


#1. There's nothing useable on a car that has sat at the bottom of a lake for over 40 years.
#2. The Camaro looks like something big and fast rear- ended it. In my line of work, I see lots of cars that were hit, some of them HARD. (so you don't know what you're talking about) My guess: there's a highway next to the lake. They were on that highway, perhaps slowing down to turn somewhere, and a semi rear- ended them, sending them into the lake. The semi driver decided to just leave. Semis can do that much damage to a car, and have little more than a bent bumper.
 
2013-09-18 08:48:51 AM  

TheCharmerUnderMe: * Camero

DIAF Autocorrect


And another swing and a miss.

You're facing an 0-2 count.  Better choke up on the bat and shorten your swing....
 
2013-09-18 10:20:10 AM  

Greek: TheMega: WTH did the cops do to that poor Camaro?!? Mistake it for a bomb and decide to detonate the ass-end of it?!?
Be careful with that shiat! SOME people might have liked to have picked it over for parts!

Oh yeah, RIP dead people.

#1. There's nothing useable on a car that has sat at the bottom of a lake for over 40 years.
#2. The Camaro looks like something big and fast rear- ended it. In my line of work, I see lots of cars that were hit, some of them HARD. (so you don't know what you're talking about) My guess: there's a highway next to the lake. They were on that highway, perhaps slowing down to turn somewhere, and a semi rear- ended them, sending them into the lake. The semi driver decided to just leave. Semis can do that much damage to a car, and have little more than a bent bumper.


or how about a second car plowed into the lake behind them 10 years later?

/ok, probably not that much momentum after hitting the water.
 
2013-09-18 11:17:07 AM  

Gyrfalcon: TheShavingofOccam123: Gyrfalcon: mjjt: Bit surprised that 3 sets of parents of teenagers didn't try harder to figure out where their kids had gone?

You'd think that if they'd gone off the road there would have been some marks, or if they went down the boat ramp that it would be an obvious place to start looking.

Not necessarily, at least not that you might notice. Search methods weren't quite as sophisticated in the 70's and especially the 60's as they are today.

Also--and being from a similar rural area in about the same time frame--the first thing cops used to think of when a carload of kids in their teens went missing was not "They are probably dead in a lake, we better look there." It was "They probably ran away from home, we better check the nearest big city." Especially the ones in the 70's, they probably figured they ran off to be hippies or something.

So while nowadays the lake is an obvious place to look, in the 70's, not so much. People didn't think of kids being dead as much back then.

When the Kingsbury Run Torso Killer was killing people in Cleveland, the authorities found a body on a train between Cleveland and New Castle. So they started dragging the lakes around the tracks. Found plenty of bodies not of which were related to the Torso killings. It must have been a Mafia body dump.

Which is interesting, but has exactly nothing to do with anything under discussion.


Well, actually it does. People didn't assume that the Torso killer even existed until he became so brazen as to leave heads in paint cans in the middle of Cleveland. Then people assumed that it would be a small chance of finding one of his victims in lakes outside of Cleveland only to find there were other murderers leaving bodies strewn around.

Much like what the Tate-LaBianca murders did to California, crimes like these tend to alter the baseline expectations of the general populace. Just as you pointed out the change in police assumptions about missing teens at the time these teens disappeared versus current expectations.
 
2013-09-18 11:23:17 AM  

Anthracite: How deep is that lake? I can't see where going into the water at the edge of a boat ramp would render them invisible.


Getting a hundred mile an hour had start would.
 
2013-09-18 11:48:41 AM  

TheGogmagog: Greek: TheMega: WTH did the cops do to that poor Camaro?!? Mistake it for a bomb and decide to detonate the ass-end of it?!?
Be careful with that shiat! SOME people might have liked to have picked it over for parts!

Oh yeah, RIP dead people.

#1. There's nothing useable on a car that has sat at the bottom of a lake for over 40 years.
#2. The Camaro looks like something big and fast rear- ended it. In my line of work, I see lots of cars that were hit, some of them HARD. (so you don't know what you're talking about) My guess: there's a highway next to the lake. They were on that highway, perhaps slowing down to turn somewhere, and a semi rear- ended them, sending them into the lake. The semi driver decided to just leave. Semis can do that much damage to a car, and have little more than a bent bumper.

or how about a second car plowed into the lake behind them 10 years later?

/ok, probably not that much momentum after hitting the water.


That, and the camaro WAS the second car.

Oh, and I realize the " you don't know what you're talking about" thing could be taken the wrong way. It is a reference to the " getting a kick" meme.
 
2013-09-18 01:17:19 PM  
Dead teenagers in a lake?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-18 01:19:55 PM  
Late to the thread, but I remember when NY drained the reservoir across from Dad's house. Apparently close to 100 crimes were linked dating back to the 1940's with the weapons found. Too shallow for cars. Apparently a "family" had a hunting lodge right by the area for years.

We have two "residential" area very deep water that at one time were lannon stone pits that were filled with water. I really would like to see a dive in both to recover items.

tl;dr
And a final story with Police and new equipment. Dad was once stopped by the Wellsley MA police department testing out their new radar system for going 1/2 mile over the speed limit. He just happened to be a mucky at a major DOD contractor at the time, providing equipment to the DEW line. In a show of support, 40 of the engineers that lived nearby showed up late at work to give testimony at traffic court in his defense (he did offer them a chance to sleep in late and promised lunch at the company cafe on him to keep the joke going). Turns out the judge was a friend from years ago in HS, Dad had planned this as a joke on the judge, who was laughing so hard after the tenth engineer was introduced that he dismissed the case, asked to police to only give tickets for a "reasonable" amount over the speed limit and they got together afterwards to "catch up".
 
2013-09-18 01:20:07 PM  
I TOLD you we should have found a deeper lake.
 
2013-09-18 01:28:43 PM  
The Bay Harbor Butcher says "AGAIN?!"
 
2013-09-18 02:36:53 PM  

TheCharmerUnderMe:

* Camero

DIAF Autocorrect



I see what you did their.

 
2013-09-18 03:55:24 PM  
a1.vsoh.com

WHO YELLED CUT?!?!?!?
 
2013-09-18 04:11:21 PM  
"Speculation centered on the Camaro as the vehicle in which three local high school students were riding when they disappeared in 1970."

25.media.tumblr.com

/wanted for questioning.
 
2013-09-18 08:00:36 PM  
There could have been some kind of monster, pagan god or Native American demon in that lake, and the people nearby were required to sacrifice a few young people every now and then so the Bad Thing won't come out of the water and do worse things to them. And maybe it was even better when the victims volunteered, knowingly or not, which could explain the layout of the boat ramp there. And maybe the nearby people were hypnotized or mindfarked somehow so they forgot all about the Evil Critter and the "lost" victims, except when the time for the Sacrifice came they'd snap into a state of mind where they do what's necessary like programmed robots: say the kids have driven drunk around there many times and never went off the ramp or even got their tires wet, but one particular night while they're all staring straight ahead they drive right off the ramp into the lake and drown. And the locals, being mind-controlled too, forget those young people had ever existed, and their photos would vanish and their bedrooms magically become sewing rooms, "man caves" or home offices for Mom's bookkeeping sideline or whatever, and it would seem like it was always like that. If they shared a room with a sibling, say in a bunkbed, presto chango the surviving kid was "always" an only child. Of course it's significant that only bones were found.

And if I ever come across a story like this published somewhere you'd better settle out of court.
 
2013-09-18 09:21:57 PM  

The One True TheDavid: There could have been some kind of monster, pagan god or Native American demon in that lake, and the people nearby were required to sacrifice a few young people every now and then so the Bad Thing won't come out of the water and do worse things to them. And maybe it was even better when the victims volunteered, knowingly or not, which could explain the layout of the boat ramp there. And maybe the nearby people were hypnotized or mindfarked somehow so they forgot all about the Evil Critter and the "lost" victims, except when the time for the Sacrifice came they'd snap into a state of mind where they do what's necessary like programmed robots: say the kids have driven drunk around there many times and never went off the ramp or even got their tires wet, but one particular night while they're all staring straight ahead they drive right off the ramp into the lake and drown. And the locals, being mind-controlled too, forget those young people had ever existed, and their photos would vanish and their bedrooms magically become sewing rooms, "man caves" or home offices for Mom's bookkeeping sideline or whatever, and it would seem like it was always like that. If they shared a room with a sibling, say in a bunkbed, presto chango the surviving kid was "always" an only child. Of course it's significant that only bones were found.

And if I ever come across a story like this published somewhere you'd better settle out of court.


So that's your outline? Have you thought of a title?
 
2013-09-18 10:23:48 PM  
The broken up aspect of both cars could be explained by at minimum 40 years of freeze-thaw cycle. After diving wrecks in the Great Lakes, I have seen ships get reduced to nearly up recognizable lumps. Also, could they have been driving on ice? Great way to die in the Midwest, so...
 
2013-09-18 11:59:57 PM  
I just saw this on CNN. The cars had deteriorated so much that the investigators could pull them apart with their hands.
 
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