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(The Atlantic Wire)   "The next mass shooting will take place on Feb. 12, 2014, in Spokane, Washington, by an emotionally disturbed, 38-year-old white man who will kill 7 people and wound 6 where he used to work using a semi-auto handgun he purchased legally in-state"   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 46
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2013-09-17 08:30:03 PM
6 votes:
Fail. You're not going to have to wait that long
2013-09-17 09:50:10 PM
5 votes:
The next child shooting will take place on September 20th, 2013, in Chicago, Illinois, by a drug-dealing teenaged black male in a neighborhood near his home using a semi-automatic handgun he purchased illegally.
2013-09-17 10:01:27 PM
3 votes:
FTA:

"White man

"Looking at the past 30-plus years of spree- and mass-shootings, this is the easiest trend to spot. Nearly two-thirds of the 67 incidents -  65.7 percent - were at the hands of a white person."


Well, considering that over most of the the past 30 years, whites have made up more than 65.7% of the population, I'd say that "whites" are not doing their fair share of the mass shootings.

Tighten up, you white SLACKERS!
2013-09-17 09:44:47 PM
3 votes:

yourmomlovestetris: "The next mass shooting will take place on Feb. 12, 2014, in Spokane, Washington, by an emotionally disturbed, 38-year-old white man who will kill 7 people and wound 6 where he used to work using a semi-auto handgun he purchased legally in-state......" ~Liberal Media

to which it added after a few-second pause:

"Pleaseohpleaseohpleasewehopewehopewehope pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze don't let it be another person of color or mooslim and don't let it be a gun that was illegally obtained in a city with strict gun laws!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze! "


You sound white, and 38. And to be honest a little emotionally disturbed.
2013-09-17 09:36:34 PM
3 votes:
Five months?

Since America can barely go a week without a mass shooting, workplace shooting, school shooting, mall shooting or other random mass violence from gun-toting retards, crazies and fanatics I think it's safe to say there will be a mass shooting much sooner than five months from now.
2013-09-17 11:05:24 PM
2 votes:
This is just as racist as someone saying 'if you get mugged, it'll most likely be by a black guy'.
2013-09-17 10:32:39 PM
2 votes:

TotallyHeadless: What's with all this "gun free zone" crap everyone keeps spouting? This last one just had the guy shoot a security guard and took his gun. Why is there this belief that the shooters target "gun free zones"? I don't see the pattern to support that assertion.


Because in gun-free zones, the common, law-abiding person is unable to defend himself, instead relying on hired, sometimes incompetent, security if it exists at all.  Schools, theaters, military offices are all "gun free zones" and have been the recent locations of mass casualty shootings.
2013-09-17 09:55:46 PM
2 votes:
It depends on what you're calling a mass shooting. If you use the standard of "four or more people injured or killed by gunshots in one event," it'll happen about 25 hours after the last one. So we're already overdue, although quite possibly one has happened that hasn't been widely reported on.

Source. (247 mass shootings in 2013, 260 days elapsed through today)

If you mean the kind of mass shooting that CNN secretly fantasizes about, then yeah, February is probably about right.
2013-09-17 09:53:35 PM
2 votes:

Creoena: I'm pretty sure the next mass shooting will take place October 1st once someone has to sign up for healthcare on a state exchange and realizes how much of a clusterfark it is


Lucky, my state doesn't even have one of those exchanges.

If the next mass shooting is 5 months from now, that would be a farking miracle!
2013-09-17 09:45:50 PM
2 votes:
I'm pretty sure the next mass shooting will take place October 1st once someone has to sign up for healthcare on a state exchange and realizes how much of a clusterfark it is
2013-09-17 09:39:49 PM
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: You'd only be able to predict something like that if you were the shooter or you had information about the government's conspiracy to fan the flames of anti-gun sentiment and fear.


Or be cheap and average every single piece of data you can... because science... which is exactly what they did.

People don't actually understand how this math thing works.
2013-09-17 09:16:35 PM
2 votes:

Barfmaker: That whole week isn't going to work for me, I have a circumcision thread and an abortion thread going on and I'm expecting a sudden death in the family. Can we either push it back a week or move it up a few days?


Why be so passive? Take matters into your own hands.
2013-09-17 09:13:52 PM
2 votes:
That whole week isn't going to work for me, I have a circumcision thread and an abortion thread going on and I'm expecting a sudden death in the family. Can we either push it back a week or move it up a few days?
2013-09-17 08:36:06 PM
2 votes:
Well, if you lived in Spokane, what else is there to do?   At least on the other side of the mountains, you can write software to make far more people suffer?
2013-09-18 12:07:20 AM
1 votes:

Peter von Nostrand: Fail. You're not going to have to wait that long


Hell, there are some angry armed nutters on FARK as I type.
2013-09-17 11:36:53 PM
1 votes:
Fark, Mother Jones and the left-leaning Internet "news" organizations are flogging the crap out of this data set Mother Jones has built. We've got another article based on it sitting the queue.

It's a horrendously flawed dataset, and it doesn't prove what everyone and their mother is claiming it proves.

Not to mention the horrendous approach to "statistics" taken in the article - an undergraduate could do a better job of analysis than this.

I don't mind legitimate debate on gun control but this dataset and all of the commentary that goes with it is atrocious.
2013-09-17 11:31:43 PM
1 votes:

djh0101010: I would really love to see a judicial system where criminals who are convicted of crimes, and who used a gun in said crime, would spend 5 years minimum in jail, mandatory.  I'd be interested in ANYONE who can tell me that this proposal would not benefit society.


So someone who bags a deer without the correct tag would get 5 years in jail?

Or how about someone at an airport in New York state who didn't understand that they can't check in their pistol as they do in their home state? Happens all the time. 5 year minimum for them?

The person who proposed blanket rules such as this, is generally not the type who thinks deep, or considers the entire spectrum of possibillities.
2013-09-17 11:22:32 PM
1 votes:
Well I guess we know where and when our next fark party isn't.
2013-09-17 11:16:07 PM
1 votes:
Wait, has anyone checked how old the author will be in 2014?
2013-09-17 11:11:57 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: SithLord: TotallyHeadless: What's with all this "gun free zone" crap everyone keeps spouting? This last one just had the guy shoot a security guard and took his gun. Why is there this belief that the shooters target "gun free zones"? I don't see the pattern to support that assertion.

Because in gun-free zones, the common, law-abiding person is unable to defend himself, instead relying on hired, sometimes incompetent, security if it exists at all.  Schools, theaters, military offices are all "gun free zones" and have been the recent locations of mass casualty shootings.

So how come the Navy Yard shooting didn't happen in one of these "gun free zones"?


Actually, the shooting happened on a US armed forces base, US Navy Yard, where, because of a law signed by Pres. Bill Clinton, all US Military bases in the USA were declared "gun-free" zones for safety.  The logic being, why would US military people need protection from US military people.  The unintended, (or maybe the intended) consequence of this, is that US Military personnel, trained in marksmanship and safe weapons handling are unarmed targets for terrorists, among others.
2013-09-17 11:07:17 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: ole prophet: Mrtraveler01: SithLord: TotallyHeadless: What's with all this "gun free zone" crap everyone keeps spouting? This last one just had the guy shoot a security guard and took his gun. Why is there this belief that the shooters target "gun free zones"? I don't see the pattern to support that assertion.

Because in gun-free zones, the common, law-abiding person is unable to defend himself, instead relying on hired, sometimes incompetent, security if it exists at all.  Schools, theaters, military offices are all "gun free zones" and have been the recent locations of mass casualty shootings.

So how come the Navy Yard shooting didn't happen in one of these "gun free zones"?

Because he grabbed the guns of the only people the government allows to have guns at the location?

Isn't this the exact same thing the NRA wanted to do with our schools to prevent shootings there?


My point is this is the worse case scenario for all parties involved. The guy tried to buy a "scary gun" and was turned away; so he bought a gun that wasn't a "scary gun" killed two people who some people feel should only have guns in what should be the most secure "'Merica Fark Yeah" of all places and continued to kill 12 others.

Both sides really want to drop it and wait to blame the next Teabagger/Muslim/Insane person.
2013-09-17 10:51:20 PM
1 votes:
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2013-09-17 10:50:57 PM
1 votes:

djh0101010: It really boggles my mind and/or offends me that my repeated suggestions that we put criminals who use guns in jail for 5 years minimum, typically get NO responses.

Supporters, please comment.  Detractors, please think, and if you have a coherent point, please comment.

I would really love to see a judicial system where criminals who are convicted of crimes, and who used a gun in said crime, would spend 5 years minimum in jail, mandatory.  I'd be interested in ANYONE who can tell me that this proposal would not benefit society.


Mandatory minimums take power from judges and jury to decide what punishment fits the crime and puts in in the hands of the legislative branch. I don't like congress making one fits all solutions.
2013-09-17 10:45:30 PM
1 votes:
It really boggles my mind and/or offends me that my repeated suggestions that we put criminals who use guns in jail for 5 years minimum, typically get NO responses.

Supporters, please comment.  Detractors, please think, and if you have a coherent point, please comment.

I would really love to see a judicial system where criminals who are convicted of crimes, and who used a gun in said crime, would spend 5 years minimum in jail, mandatory.  I'd be interested in ANYONE who can tell me that this proposal would not benefit society.
2013-09-17 10:42:35 PM
1 votes:

ole prophet: Mrtraveler01: SithLord: TotallyHeadless: What's with all this "gun free zone" crap everyone keeps spouting? This last one just had the guy shoot a security guard and took his gun. Why is there this belief that the shooters target "gun free zones"? I don't see the pattern to support that assertion.

Because in gun-free zones, the common, law-abiding person is unable to defend himself, instead relying on hired, sometimes incompetent, security if it exists at all.  Schools, theaters, military offices are all "gun free zones" and have been the recent locations of mass casualty shootings.

So how come the Navy Yard shooting didn't happen in one of these "gun free zones"?

Because he grabbed the guns of the only people the government allows to have guns at the location?


Isn't this the exact same thing the NRA wanted to do with our schools to prevent shootings there?
2013-09-17 10:36:45 PM
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: SithLord: TotallyHeadless: What's with all this "gun free zone" crap everyone keeps spouting? This last one just had the guy shoot a security guard and took his gun. Why is there this belief that the shooters target "gun free zones"? I don't see the pattern to support that assertion.

Because in gun-free zones, the common, law-abiding person is unable to defend himself, instead relying on hired, sometimes incompetent, security if it exists at all.  Schools, theaters, military offices are all "gun free zones" and have been the recent locations of mass casualty shootings.

So how come the Navy Yard shooting didn't happen in one of these "gun free zones"?


Because he grabbed the guns of the only people the government allows to have guns at the location?
2013-09-17 10:26:13 PM
1 votes:

way south: No need for a conspiracy, just wager on government incompetence.


Ever notice that government incompetence results in rewarding government with more money and power?
2013-09-17 10:19:38 PM
1 votes:

IlGreven: So the argument against gun control is that we can't prevent 20% of these mass killings, so we shouldn't try to prevent the other 80%.


The argument is that we should look at the causes not the tools.

In practically all if not all of the mass shootings in the last 20+ years the shooter has been using a government approved product of the pharmaceutical industry which has known side effects that include violent behavior. But big pharma and the medical cartel that puts people on these drugs is untouchable and damn near unmentionable.

Why isn't this common thread addressed? These are mind altering substances made by insider companies approved by a government agency. They are big money makers. It does not serve those in government to address it. But taking away weapons from the population? That's what all rulers would like to do.
2013-09-17 10:17:24 PM
1 votes:
And according to his voting history, he voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012.
2013-09-17 10:14:19 PM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: You'd only be able to predict something like that if you were the shooter or you had information about the government's conspiracy to fan the flames of anti-gun sentiment and fear.




No need for a conspiracy, just wager on government incompetence.

To predict the next shooting we first need a list of single people who've been failed by the system and happen to take certain medications. Double points if they've got a record for violence and recently suffered some form of economic misfortune.

Second we need to understand that, while Government proposes it can control guns, there is never a "we should have done our farking job" follow up. One that covers all of the missed signs and failures to report obvious problems.
This isn't a gun control or background check problem, its a failure to document so existing checks and balances can work.

Where the trend of poor paperwork meets a hard luck story, your likely to find your future suspects.
2013-09-17 10:10:57 PM
1 votes:
So will that be the first official Seldon Crisis?
2013-09-17 10:07:41 PM
1 votes:
The vast majority of guns used in mass killings were obtained legally - 81.8 percent. Advocates of gun control will note that this bolsters the case for tighter restrictions, particularly given the overlap between those with mental health issues and those able to buy guns. Opponents of gun control will note that nearly a fifth of shootings used illegally obtained guns, suggesting that new controls won't prevent such shootings.

So the argument against gun control is that we can't prevent 20% of these mass killings, so we shouldn't try to prevent the other 80%.

Now, if after such laws were passed, the percentages were flipped, but the amount the same, I would agree with them.  But if the number of illegal mass killings stayed the same while the number of legal mass killings dropped, then that would be a sign that gun control works.  But of course we'll never know, 'cuz OBAMMER GUN TAKE ARE GUNZZZZ!
2013-09-17 09:55:08 PM
1 votes:

simplicimus: Well, if you lived in Spokane, what else is there to do?   At least on the other side of the mountains, you can write software to make far more people suffer?


Given that pot is legal there now, I'd have to provide an answer to your first question that also makes the headline rather unlikely.
2013-09-17 09:52:39 PM
1 votes:
Nearly two-thirds of the 67 incidents - 65.7 percent - were at the hands of a white person. Only one was committed by a female. It is indisputable: white men are most likely to commit such acts, though not exclusively.

This is a misunderstanding of the statistics.  Men are most likely to commit such acts, white people aren't.  2/3 of the shootings were by white people, but 2/3 of the country is white.  Saying that white people are most likely to commit mass shootings is like saying that white people are most likely to breathe and eat food.  It's most likely that a mass shooter will turn out to be white, but white people are no more likely to commit mass shootings than those of other races.  There are just more of them.
2013-09-17 09:48:00 PM
1 votes:

Creoena: I'm pretty sure the next mass shooting will take place October 1st once someone has to sign up for healthcare on a state exchange and realizes how much of a clusterfark it is


Nope. October 31, a kid in a costume, not enough candy, and a semi-auto.
2013-09-17 09:47:08 PM
1 votes:
I see several people here desire a visit from the Feds. I don't. Which is why my plans remain secret.

/actually, they remain secret because they involve a can of spaghettios, a handful of Kleenex and a photo of your mom
//at least for tonight
///tomorrow my plans expand to include a rubber chicken
2013-09-17 09:46:43 PM
1 votes:
Well damn, arrest the guy already.
2013-09-17 09:45:52 PM
1 votes:
Really? I had plans for that day.
2013-09-17 09:43:26 PM
1 votes:
The vast majority of guns used in mass killings were obtained legally - 81.8 percent. Advocates of gun control will note that this bolsters the case for tighter restrictions, particularly given the overlap between those with mental health issues and those able to buy guns.  Opponents of gun control will note that nearly a fifth of shootings used illegally obtained guns, suggesting that new controls won't prevent such shootings.
 

Well, except possibly four out of five.
2013-09-17 09:40:11 PM
1 votes:
Let's further stigmatize the emotionally fragile loner white guys that already struggle to build a decent support group so they feel more isolated and less attached to the people around them.  Brilliant.
2013-09-17 09:39:08 PM
1 votes:
that was actually kindof a cool article, something different.
2013-09-17 09:36:02 PM
1 votes:
"The next mass shooting will take place on Feb. 12, 2014, in Spokane, Washington, by an emotionally disturbed, 38-year-old white man who will kill 7 people and wound 6 where he used to work using a semi-auto handgun he purchased legally in-state......" ~Liberal Media

to which it added after a few-second pause:

"Pleaseohpleaseohpleasewehopewehopewehope pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze don't let it be another person of color or mooslim and don't let it be a gun that was illegally obtained in a city with strict gun laws!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze! "
2013-09-17 09:35:46 PM
1 votes:
There will be another shooting when MK Ultra says there will be.
2013-09-17 09:34:53 PM
1 votes:
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2013-09-17 09:33:21 PM
1 votes:
You'd only be able to predict something like that if you were the shooter or you had information about the government's conspiracy to fan the flames of anti-gun sentiment and fear.
2013-09-17 09:29:08 PM
1 votes:
So are we starting a pool or...?
 
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