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(The Raw Story)   Creationist: Bill Nye 'doesn't understand science correctly' because he doesn't believe that a talking snake tricked the first two humans into eating an apple   (rawstory.com) divider line 342
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2013-09-17 05:45:05 PM  
Uh, why is anyone giving these guys any attention at all? His Facebook derping is a tiny nothing a massive ocean of attention whoring. Ignore these idiots and withhold their medication and health care when they get sick. Turn off their electricity when it gets dark. Refuse them gas when they want to drive. He should go full creationist and quit with the biatching and whining because he's spoiled by the world he lives in.
 
2013-09-17 05:45:36 PM  
No, Bill Nye doesn't understand science correctly because he stopped making his show. Poor bastard has too much faith in humanity.
 
2013-09-17 05:50:32 PM  
"Idiot says idiotic things"

Well, OK then.
 
2013-09-17 05:51:59 PM  
According to "historical science" creationists, no science is valid that you did not personally witness, so-called "observational science."

Hey, I think I just disproved God.
 
2013-09-17 05:57:16 PM  
"They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

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2013-09-17 06:06:13 PM  

sno man: "They say that in order for evolution creationism to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another God creating the earth, the sun, the moon, the animals, fish and birds, and finally man and woman. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish Bible to say these things happened."

 
2013-09-17 06:07:40 PM  

RexTalionis: According to "historical science" creationists, no science is valid that you did not personally witness, so-called "observational science."

Hey, I think I just disproved God.


I OBSEDRVE GOD IN EVERY BABY SMILE EVERY MOUNTAIN EVERY APARTMENT FIRE WHERE 2 PEOPLE OUT OF 200 MIRACULOUSLY SURVIVE
 
2013-09-17 06:08:55 PM  
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2013-09-17 06:10:28 PM  

sno man: this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish."


Well, think about it this way: IF evolution was really happening, then once a species evolved, there wouldn't be anymore of the old model left, now would there? It's like at 2:00 when Firefox upgrades from 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 to 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2. You look around for 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 after that, good luck. It's evolved into a new version; the old one's gone. Overwritten, poof. And then at 2:30 it evolves again into 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2a, and that's what's out in the world. But go down to the zoo, look around, and what do you see? That's right, monkeys. And bacteria, and lizards, and all kinds of animals that should have been upgraded a long, long time ago if it was really happening.
 
2013-09-17 06:15:44 PM  
10 years ago I would have given my left nut to have the opportunity to put my fingers up his sweet, sweet man organs.

Now, not so much.

I am not saying he is ugly, I am saying that he isn't as hot as he used to be
 
2013-09-17 06:16:44 PM  

Pocket Ninja: sno man: this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish."

Well, think about it this way: IF evolution was really happening, then once a species evolved, there wouldn't be anymore of the old model left, now would there? It's like at 2:00 when Firefox upgrades from 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 to 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2. You look around for 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 after that, good luck. It's evolved into a new version; the old one's gone. Overwritten, poof. And then at 2:30 it evolves again into 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2a, and that's what's out in the world. But go down to the zoo, look around, and what do you see? That's right, monkeys. And bacteria, and lizards, and all kinds of animals that should have been upgraded a long, long time ago if it was really happening.


Thanks for reminding me that I hadn't done my weekly upgrade. =P
 
2013-09-17 06:17:34 PM  

DarwiOdrade: sno man: "They say that in order for evolution creationism to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another God creating the earth, the sun, the moon, the animals, fish and birds, and finally man and woman. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish Bible to say these things happened."


oddly, that is pretty much exactly what my wife just said...

/also from the original quote for the nit pickers... 'affect' should be 'effect'
 
2013-09-17 06:19:04 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, think about it this way: IF evolution was really happening, then once a species evolved, there wouldn't be anymore of the old model left, now would there? It's like at 2:00 when Firefox upgrades from 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 to 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2. You look around for 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.1 after that, good luck. It's evolved into a new version; the old one's gone. Overwritten, poof. And then at 2:30 it evolves again into 24.1.2.1.1.4.2.2a, and that's what's out in the world. But go down to the zoo, look around, and what do you see? That's right, monkeys. And bacteria, and lizards, and all kinds of animals that should have been upgraded a long, long time ago if it was really happening.


And furthermore IE proves intelligent design because there is no way that such an inefficient design could have survived for so long if natural selection were actually steering so-called "evolution."
 
2013-09-17 06:26:11 PM  

sno man: "They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

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Let me walk you through it.

I propose that anything with an information content in excess of 1 VEB unit is probably the product of intelligent design. A VEB unit is defined as the quantum of information equal to the amount of information found in one volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

If you can find something that contains that much information (i.e., an amount equal to or greater than 1 VEB unit), it will probably be the product of intelligent design.

A good place to look for things that contain a quantum of information in excess of 1 VEB unit is the pubic library. That's a good place to conduct the study because most of those things identify an author.

In my studies, all library books containing over 1 VEB unit of information that I have examined were found to be the product of intelligent agency. I have yet to find one that was written by unguided, random processes.

According to Dawkins, the nucleus of each cell "...contains a digitally coded database larger, in information content, than all 30 volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica put together." That's over 30 VEB units!

Because a living cell has more than 30 VEB units of information, I can safely conclude with a high degree of scientific confidence that it is highly probable that a living cell is intelligently designed.
 
2013-09-17 06:31:20 PM  
Ray Comfort?  Kirk Cameron?  Ken Ham?

*click*

I knew it had to be one of those dopes....
 
2013-09-17 06:32:49 PM  
This is Ken Ham:
i105.photobucket.com
He does not believe that humans are related to other primates.
 
2013-09-17 06:34:23 PM  

FloydA: This is Ken Ham:
[i105.photobucket.com image 480x360]
He does not believe that humans are related to other primates.


Hey, I know that guy! I see his face on every penny I throw in my bucket at home!
 
2013-09-17 06:35:49 PM  
By the way
i105.photobucket.com
If anyone wishes to argue against evolution, I will be happy to listen to your discussion about the problems with one or more of those 14 points.  If you want to argue about something that's not on that list, go ahead, but you're not arguing about evolution.
 
2013-09-17 06:35:56 PM  
I bet Bill can dance better.

/he was robbed by the judges last night.
 
2013-09-17 06:38:09 PM  
i1089.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-17 06:38:28 PM  
For fair consideration: Mr. Ham is an idiot.
 
2013-09-17 06:41:51 PM  
I didn't come out of no monkey's butt.  If I did, why are there still monkey butts?

Check and mate, libtardo
 
2013-09-17 06:47:51 PM  
mic1012.webs.com

/oblig
 
2013-09-17 06:48:51 PM  
www.lirmm.fr
In the beginning, we were all fish. Okay? Swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So Retard Fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day, a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its mutant fish hands and it had butt sex with a squirrel or something and made this retard frog-squirrel, and then *that* had a retard baby which was a monkey-fish-frog and then this monkey-fish-frog had butt sex with that monkey, and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey and that made you! So there you go! You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel! Congratulations!
 
2013-09-17 06:49:25 PM  
This is what happens when you remove critical thinking from the curriculum.

Which is why the religious people remove it.
 
2013-09-17 06:49:29 PM  

sprawl15: 10 years ago I would have given my left nut to have the opportunity to put my fingers up his sweet, sweet man organs.

Now, not so much.

I am not saying he is ugly, I am saying that he isn't as hot as he used to be


Lulz
 
2013-09-17 06:49:45 PM  
["historical science" creationists] say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another.

But we can take the Bible's word that the earth was created in six days and every species of animal on earth fit into Noah's Ark. Mmmkay then.

Do these people even listen to themselves when they're talking?
 
2013-09-17 06:50:44 PM  

sprawl15: 10 years ago I would have given my left nut to have the opportunity to put my fingers up his sweet, sweet man organs.

Now, not so much.

I am not saying he is ugly, I am saying that he isn't as hot as he used to be


Now that's funny, right there.
 
2013-09-17 06:52:05 PM  
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2013-09-17 06:52:20 PM  
This is what these people are using their freedom for. To ignore reality.

USA! USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-09-17 06:52:25 PM  
Ham's organization, Answers in Genesis, believes that God created the Earth and sun and moon and stars in seven days.

Which is a stupid statement in the first place. What the hell is a "Day" without the earth and sun? Are they pretending a "day" is a godly measurement of time which God then created the Earth and Sun to tick off for man?

Also remember the bible states multiple places that the EARTH DOES NOT MOVE. So why do they no longer believe that but believe the rest of the bible is infallible?
 
2013-09-17 06:53:52 PM  

FloydA: This is Ken Ham:
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He does not believe that humans are related to other primates.


img.fark.net

yotamak.blogs.com

Did One-Eyed Jim get a glass eye and grow a beard?
 
2013-09-17 06:54:32 PM  
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been.  The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -- Isaac Asimov

Someone needs to explain to these ignorant twats that not all opinions are valid.
 
2013-09-17 06:55:45 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: This is what these people are using their freedom for. To ignore reality.

USA! USA! USA! USA!


almost, this guy is an Aussie

U.S.A. U.S.A....
 
2013-09-17 06:57:41 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-17 06:58:23 PM  
Creationists like Ken Ham object to evolution because they say things "reproduce after their own kind".  But they don't bother to say what a "kind" is.  And, in fact, evolution itself does say that things reproduce "after their own kind".  They just also say that birds are a "kind" of dinosaur, and humans are a "kind" of ape, just like they're a "kind" of mammal, and like all of them are a "kind" of animal, and a "kind" of eukaryote.  In fact, creationists like to reverse the true disproof of evolution: They say to prove evolution, you have to give us something that would disprove evolution, like, say, a crocoduck.  No, you would have to find any species of anything that did not fit on the evolutionary tree of life, because that would mean it did not evolve from anything on earth.  And even then, that only probably means it still evolved, just from something not of this earth, making Crazy-Hair Ancient Aliens guy correct in that "it was aliens".  In fact, we are so complete in cataloging where most of the species today came from that it would take one of the creationist God's miracles to find even that.  We can definitively say that mammals were never amphibians, turtles are not true reptiles, and, as Eddie Izzard will tell you, "You're a farking monkey, mate!"
 
2013-09-17 06:59:02 PM  

sprawl15: Let me walk you through it.

I propose that anything with an information content in excess of 1 VEB unit is probably the product of intelligent design.


Ok, class. This is what we call a premise. This is the author stating what he ultimately intends to prove.

A VEB unit is defined as the quantum of information equal to the amount of information found in one volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Who can tell me that this is? Right: defining of terms.

If you can find something that contains that much information (i.e., an amount equal to or greater than 1 VEB unit), it will probably be the product of intelligent design.

And this? That's right, Susie. That's the logical fallacy of begging the question. The author has assumed that his premise -- remember the premise? -- is correct and is using the correctness of that premise to advance his argument. And what do we say when we see that? Right, Billy: "dumbass."
 
2013-09-17 06:59:24 PM  
Why the fark is any site publishing any goddamn thing written by Ken farking Ham?
They could just as easily publish the babbling of any random group of 4 year old children and have a more intelligent, insightful article.
 
2013-09-17 07:00:41 PM  
farking ridiculous... Why do we even entertain the opinions of these morons?

These clods aren't even worth arguing with. They aren't even worthy of ridicule and mockery.
 
2013-09-17 07:00:54 PM  

sprawl15: sno man: "They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

[imageshack.com image 417x278]

Let me walk you through it.

I propose that anything with an information content in excess of 1 VEB unit is probably the product of intelligent design. A VEB unit is defined as the quantum of information equal to the amount of information found in one volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

If you can find something that contains that much information (i.e., an amount equal to or greater than 1 VEB unit), it will probably be the product of intelligent design.

A good place to look for things that contain a quantum of information in excess of 1 VEB unit is the pubic library. That's a good place to conduct the study because most of those things identify an author.

In my studies, all library books containing over 1 VEB unit of information that I have examined were found to be the product of intelligent agency. I have yet to find one that was written by unguided, random processes.

According to Dawkins, the nucleus of each cell "...contains a digitally coded database larger, in information content, than all 30 volumes of the Encyclopaedia Britannica put together." That's over 30 VEB units!

Because a living cell has more than 30 VEB units of information, I can safely conclude with a high degree of scientific confidence that it is highly probable that a living cell is intelligently designed.


Welcome to hasty generalization play house.

Or the new on "Climate change happened without man, therefore all climate change must be natural"

it's like saying "some fires are caused naturally therefore all fires are caused naturally".

They are using the assertion to prove itself.

1 VEB = INTELLIGENT DESIGN

Therefore

Everything over 1 VEB must be intelligent design, proving the original assertions.

It's like saying "all people named john are a serial killer. If you know of one you think is not, obvious he is (see assertion) just we don't have proof"


It's a bunch of crap.
 
2013-09-17 07:02:40 PM  

sno man: "They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

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Oh no, these creationists are dead serious.  Because there are still bacteria or the more often used chimps, God did it.
 
2013-09-17 07:03:16 PM  
This guy has a museum filled with animatronic t-rex's hanging out with cavemen.  Ignoring the obvious fact that they didn't exist at the same time, those cave people would be eaten.  Therefore I award this man 0 science.
 
2013-09-17 07:05:02 PM  

Uzzah: sprawl15: Let me walk you through it.

I propose that anything with an information content in excess of 1 VEB unit is probably the product of intelligent design.

Ok, class. This is what we call a premise. This is the author stating what he ultimately intends to prove.

A VEB unit is defined as the quantum of information equal to the amount of information found in one volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

Who can tell me that this is? Right: defining of terms.

If you can find something that contains that much information (i.e., an amount equal to or greater than 1 VEB unit), it will probably be the product of intelligent design.

And this? That's right, Susie. That's the logical fallacy of begging the question. The author has assumed that his premise -- remember the premise? -- is correct and is using the correctness of that premise to advance his argument. And what do we say when we see that? Right, Billy: "dumbass."


poe 1 - uzzah 0
 
2013-09-17 07:05:13 PM  

meat0918: sno man: "They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

[imageshack.com image 417x278]

Oh no, these creationists are dead serious.  Because there are still bacteria or the more often used chimps, God did it.


My favorite "proof" is "Bananas fit perfectly in the hand, therefore God designed them".
 
2013-09-17 07:05:55 PM  

StopLurkListen: [fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net image 541x960]


images.wikia.com
 
2013-09-17 07:08:31 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: I didn't come out of no monkey's butt.  If I did, why are there still monkey butts?

Check and mate, libtardo


You'll be forgiven for the obviousness of this "troll," Group Captain, because it made laugh OL. The office is concerned that I said "monkey butts" at an audible level.
 
2013-09-17 07:09:22 PM  

meat0918: StopLurkListen: [fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net image 541x960]

[images.wikia.com image 457x333]


lol, I give a non-zero chance that it was a troll, actually.
 
2013-09-17 07:10:10 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It's like at 2:00 when Firefox upgrades


Firefox isn't evolving, it is intelligently designed, therefore your argument is invalid.
 
2013-09-17 07:13:59 PM  

UncomfortableSilence: This guy has a museum filled with animatronic t-rex's hanging out with cavemen.  Ignoring the obvious fact that they didn't exist at the same time, those cave people would be eaten.  Therefore I award this man 0 science.


They also claim that t-rex's used to be plant eaters before the fall. (And just wait until you find Ian Juby try and claim that the roots on t-rex teeth were only two inches long.) These people are so stupid it hurts my brain to listen to them.
 
2013-09-17 07:14:29 PM  

dahmers love zombie: meat0918: sno man: "They say that in order for evolution to be real, someone had to witness one species physically transforming into another. It's not enough for the fossil record to show that bacteria evolved into a different kind of bacteria or fish evolved into different types of fish. To a creationist, this is false because "the bacteria are still bacteria and the fish are still fish." Therefore, only God can affect real change."

[imageshack.com image 417x278]

Oh no, these creationists are dead serious.  Because there are still bacteria or the more often used chimps, God did it.

My favorite "proof" is "Bananas fit perfectly in the hand, therefore God designed them".


I had a speech class in college where we had to do various styles of speeches, not write them all, but work on style and delivery.  It was an easy A.

One week, someone read Ray Comfort's "proof" and collaborated with another student that read the debunking.

It was glorious, mostly because I discovered had some honest to god creationists at Michigan Tech.
 
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