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(Slashdot)   Call me a patent troll? Well, that's a hate crime   (yro.slashdot.org) divider line 24
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2013-09-17 05:46:34 PM
calling someone a 'patent troll' was actually a 'hate crime' under 'Ninth Circuit precedent'

I'd love to hear the logic on that one.

Didn't realize patent trolls could spread their trolliness by proximity.
 
2013-09-17 06:12:00 PM
calling someone a 'patent troll' was actually a 'hate crime' under 'Ninth Circuit precedent' I want to see a citation for this.     My understanding is that most US Courts treat name calling as opinion, exempting it from libel and slander laws.   Does the little troll think he is being bullied because people have a poor opinion of him?
 
2013-09-17 06:16:02 PM
Hopefully there will be a follow-up for this in a few months similar to Drew's eventual follow-up...
 
2013-09-17 06:38:22 PM
One one hand, patent trolls are the funk on the underside of Satan's cock

On the other hand, it's Doubleclick.

I really don't know who to root for.

/maybe the resulting court case will bankrupt both
 
2013-09-17 06:47:55 PM

Snapper Carr: One one hand, patent trolls are the funk on the underside of Satan's cock

On the other hand, it's Doubleclick.

I really don't know who to root for.

/maybe the resulting court case will bankrupt both


Doubleclick is an 'honest' service. They have a product and service they provide. They're shiatty and shady perhaps, but they're relatively straightforward and stick to their services, which don't really impact people.

Patent Trolls? You insulted the funk on Satan's cock.
 
2013-09-17 06:51:06 PM

weiserfireman: calling someone a 'patent troll' was actually a 'hate crime' under 'Ninth Circuit precedent' I want to see a citation for this.     My understanding is that most US Courts treat name calling as opinion, exempting it from libel and slander laws.   Does the little troll think he is being bullied because people have a poor opinion of him?


But precedent doesn't matter. Note that the troll gave Doubleclick "until end of business today" to settle after that...they weren't actually alleging a hate crime, they didn't believe that was a true thing, they were just upping the stakes, saying, "we're prepared to dick with you THIS HARD if you don't just write us a check to make us go away."
 
2013-09-17 07:00:30 PM
Fun fact: the guy who invented the term patent troll eventually became one.
 
2013-09-17 07:04:18 PM

MrEricSir: Fun fact: the guy who invented the term patent troll eventually became one.


so it is possibly infectious
 
2013-09-17 08:12:04 PM

bindlestiff2600: MrEricSir: Fun fact: the guy who invented the term patent troll eventually became one.

so it is possibly infectious


or perhaps stare into the abyss something something something back at you...
 
2013-09-17 10:10:05 PM
Isn't it illlegal for a lawyer to misrepresent the law/case history to laymen?  I'd keep a record of that request and file it with the "extortion" paperwork....unless the person can cite something that'll pass a judge's muster for an honest interpretation (Or at least honest, not deliberate misinterpretation) of a real precedant, that should be grounds for disbarment.
 
2013-09-17 10:16:58 PM
Um isnt threatening criminal charges in order to gain advantage in a civil suit a big no no? Here in Illinois it is.

/Licensed attorney
//I am not your lawyer.
///This isnt legal advice.
 
2013-09-17 11:17:34 PM
Wait, are they claiming that "troll" is their race?

I dont get it.
 
2013-09-17 11:28:29 PM

I sound fat: Wait, are they claiming that "troll" is their race?


I'm suing you, I used that in 2000. You owe me a keyboard and 1000 jokes!
/I'll take the jokes in ones please
 
2013-09-17 11:45:47 PM

Chalji: Um isnt threatening criminal charges in order to gain advantage in a civil suit a big no no? Here in Illinois it is.

/Licensed attorney
//I am not your lawyer.
///This isnt legal advice.


hence the claim for extortion
 
2013-09-18 01:18:23 AM
Does that mean he was admitting to being a patent troll? I mean there is no way that calling a white guy "the N word" could possibly be considered a hate crime, right?
 
2013-09-18 03:04:54 AM

drjekel_mrhyde: I sound fat: Wait, are they claiming that "troll" is their race?

I'm suing you, I used that in 2000. You owe me a keyboard and 1000 jokes!
/I'll take the jokes in ones please


Prior Art! I filed a method patent for anything even vaguely involving humor, so... You're both gonna need to cough up... <ahem> "license my technology"

//god the patent system is pretty much broken on the digital front.
 
2013-09-18 03:25:41 AM
Someone has to have thought to patent the patent troll business model, right?

Seems that would stop this.
 
2013-09-18 03:28:39 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the threatening to press charges incident sounds  like something the state bar's ethics enforcement arm should be made aware of.
 
2013-09-18 03:38:52 AM
I'll give the patent troll this, you have to have massive balls to make that kind of statement. It's hopefully a tumor, but still...massive.
 
2013-09-18 05:18:18 AM

Snapper Carr: One one hand, patent trolls are the funk on the underside of Satan's cock

On the other hand, it's Doubleclick.

I really don't know who to root for.

/maybe the resulting court case will bankrupt both



Except it's not DoubeClick (which is now owned by Google).

It's against FindTheBest whose CEO was one of the founders of DoubleClick.

So this won't affect DoubleClick in the least.

FindTheBest's CEO is going to put up a million dollars of his own money to defend his company against a $50,000 suit.

I know, the link went to SlashDot and it's not customary to actually read an article in a SlashDot summary, but in this case I did.


If nothing else, he is getting some free publicity for FindTheBest which I had never heard of before and he can afford a million dollars
 
2013-09-18 07:34:48 AM
 
2013-09-18 07:38:43 AM
I find myself somewhat ambivalent about this.  For one thing I have doubleclick practically first on my list of blocked sites with both noscript and adblock plus.  However that he's using some of his ill-gotten gains to sue another piece of scum just amuses me to no end.  I hope he wins and I hope its horrendously expensive for both of them.
 
2013-09-18 01:03:12 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Didn't realize patent trolls could spread their trolliness by proximity.


You cannot state this publicly, without the express consent from said trolls is a violation of their copyrights, trademarks, and public name recognition.  Therefore you now owe them ::puts pinky to lips::  ONE BILLION DOLLARS!!!!
 
2013-09-18 01:15:36 PM

BigBooper: I ran across a far better link http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/09/angry-entrepreneur-replies - to-patent-troll-with-racketeering-lawsuit/

Great story.


OMG, how in the world did you EVER find that?

Oh, you mean that's TFA that Slashdot linked to, isn't it?

Memoryalpha: I find myself somewhat ambivalent about this.  For one thing I have doubleclick practically first on my list of blocked sites with both noscript and adblock plus.  However that he's using some of his ill-gotten gains to sue another piece of scum just amuses me to no end.  I hope he wins and I hope its horrendously expensive for both of them.


Again, this is NOT about Doubleclick.
 
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