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(Politico)   Eric Cantor is spearheading a GOP effort to throw an additional 3 million Americans off food stamps in order to save 0.13333% of the federal budget anually   (politico.com ) divider line
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2013-09-17 02:41:49 PM  
I'd sponsor an effort to throw Eric Cantor on a spearhead. Bread and circuses, you tards, it's not that hard.
 
2013-09-17 02:44:35 PM  
How very Jesusy of him.
 
2013-09-17 02:44:49 PM  
Here's my thing about food stamps. It's obviously not a budgetary issue, given its small size, and GOP members of Congress have actually said that its about disincentivizing unemployment, and that our welfare state is too generous. But aren't these the people who say at the same time that the government should get out of charity work and leave that to private people? But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?
 
2013-09-17 02:45:19 PM  
Comfort the comfortable, afflict the afflicted.
 
2013-09-17 02:45:28 PM  
I'd sponsor an effort to throw Eric Cantor into a spearhead of stampeding elephants before having himself strapped to a bed while two husky bears have gay sex on top of it.
 
2013-09-17 02:47:06 PM  

DamnYankees: Here's my thing about food stamps. It's obviously not a budgetary issue, given its small size, and GOP members of Congress have actually said that its about disincentivizing unemployment, and that our welfare state is too generous. But aren't these the people who say at the same time that the government should get out of charity work and leave that to private people? But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?


yes, stop trying to rationalize inhuman beings. Just because you give your dog a name and treat him like a person doesn't mean he's a person. Same thing applies to Republicans: just because you give them rational thought doesn't make them any more human with capability of rational thought.
 
2013-09-17 02:48:57 PM  

DamnYankees: Here's my thing about food stamps. It's obviously not a budgetary issue, given its small size, and GOP members of Congress have actually said that its about disincentivizing unemployment, and that our welfare state is too generous. But aren't these the people who say at the same time that the government should get out of charity work and leave that to private people? But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?


baby steps...baby steps, don;t give away the game quite that quickly or people will balk, but yes, I firmly believe that is the endgame.   The religious text to which most Republicans are avowed believers, by which, of cours I mean  Atlas Shrugged, and not The Bible makes that very point, and commands that no money be given to charity or in any way shared with the less fortunate.
 
2013-09-17 02:50:17 PM  

DamnYankees: Here's my thing about food stamps. It's obviously not a budgetary issue, given its small size, and GOP members of Congress have actually said that its about disincentivizing unemployment, and that our welfare state is too generous. But aren't these the people who say at the same time that the government should get out of charity work and leave that to private people? But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?


No, because freedom. And also personal responsibility and hard work. Don't forget the Job Creators, and like such as.
 
2013-09-17 02:53:01 PM  

Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.


To be fair, he *is* Jewish.
 
2013-09-17 02:53:28 PM  
Who would Jesus throw under the bus?
 
2013-09-17 02:56:24 PM  

Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.


Well Eric CANTOR, is one of the few members of the GOP who cannot fairly be accused of hypocrisy for completely ignoring the teachings of Jesus.   Unfortunately for him, the Torah and the Talmud are, if anything even more clear on the moral necessites of helping the poor and less fortunate in our midst.   According to Ezekiel the reason God went all Michael Bay on the towns of Sodom and Gemorrah had nothing to do with a fondness for unorthodox sexuality and everything to do with a lack of a robust welfare state.  EZ 16:48
"As I live," declares the Lord GOD, "Sodom, your sister and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. 49"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. 50"Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it
 
2013-09-17 02:57:50 PM  

Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.


I think he's Jewish so...
 
2013-09-17 02:58:28 PM  
I'll give the guy one thing, he's consistently a POS and a waste of space
 
2013-09-17 03:00:51 PM  
Eric Cantor accomplishes the rare trifecta of giving Republicans, Jews, and closeted homosexuals a bad name.
 
2013-09-17 03:06:48 PM  
He's trying to fulfill at least part of the Romney/Ryan plan.  There's like  billions just sitting in the national couch cushions.  Trust them.
 
2013-09-17 03:24:21 PM  

DamnYankees: Here's my thing about food stamps. It's obviously not a budgetary issue, given its small size, and GOP members of Congress have actually said that its about disincentivizing unemployment, and that our welfare state is too generous. But aren't these the people who say at the same time that the government should get out of charity work and leave that to private people? But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?


One might say giving affluent suburbanites a subsidy to buy houses on credit, rather than work harder and save up enough cash, is exactly the same thing. And you'd be right.

The difference is, your "enemy packaging" is much neater with food stamp recipients. In a single mother trying to work and feed a child while going to school, you have:

Sexual immorality (if father is deceased, assign 20% of blame to him for being reckless)
Failure to recognize value of males
Bad parenting because she's working, or..
.. failure to work because she's parenting, or...
.. lack of personal responsibility if they actually have the nerve to want to go to school.
Increased likelyhood of being:
...a minority member and/or that holy of holies in Blameistan:
...an undocumented immigrant!

Picking on middle-aged car salesmen who took on too much debt or bought a fishing boat instead of making a bigger down payment is risky - you might have to alienate a dozen voters to get your bingo card of rage filled. But single moms? That's a demographic jackpot to keep the Limbaugh listeners certain that they've got someone to focus their resentment on. And because they're busy taking care of a kid, working, or trying to find some food, they can't vote anyway, so it's win/win.
 
2013-09-17 03:25:57 PM  

MisterTweak: One might say giving affluent suburbanites a subsidy to buy houses on credit, rather than work harder and save up enough cash, is exactly the same thing. And you'd be right.


Who's opposes housing subsidies on the grounds that it disincentivizes hard work?
 
2013-09-17 03:30:35 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.

To be fair, he *is* Jewish.


Aaaaaaaaand let's stop it right there :-)

Down this path lies only antisemitism and despair and unhappiness.
 
2013-09-17 03:33:07 PM  

Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.


Cantor is Jewish, just like Jesus!
 
2013-09-17 03:33:19 PM  
Somebody is angling for the soon-to-be-open Speaker's spot.
 
2013-09-17 03:34:32 PM  
Lol i should have read the whole thread before I posted. Sorry.
 
2013-09-17 03:35:19 PM  

Somacandra: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.

To be fair, he *is* Jewish.

Aaaaaaaaand let's stop it right there :-)

Down this path lies only antisemitism and despair and unhappiness.


Merely pointing out that he's under no requirement to be Jesusy.
 
2013-09-17 03:35:25 PM  

Somacandra: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Blues_X: How very Jesusy of him.

To be fair, he *is* Jewish.

Aaaaaaaaand let's stop it right there :-)

Down this path lies only antisemitism and despair and unhappiness.


Well, those things always have the potential to get ugly.  But I don't think there's anything provocative about saying Jews don't follow the teachings of Jesus.

But in that vein, what is the opposite of mitvah?  Averah?  He's not being sinful per se, but it certainly can't be good to take from the already poor.
 
2013-09-17 03:36:13 PM  
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I can think of a way Eric Cantor can prove he doesn't hate Americans who receive food stamps. Funny he didn't join these others when he had the opportunity.
 
2013-09-17 03:39:13 PM  
2012 numbers just came out.

46.5 million Americans, including 16.1 million children, live in poverty.
 
2013-09-17 03:41:07 PM  
The only moral act available to Eric Cantor is suicide with honor.
 
2013-09-17 03:41:36 PM  

Diogenes: But I don't think there's anything provocative about saying Jews don't follow the teachings of Jesus.But in that vein, what is the opposite of mitvah?  Averah?  He's not being sinful per se, but it certainly can't be good to take from the already poor.


As its been stated, it certainly ain't no mitzvot to demonize the poor and hungry. Cantor is Conservative Jewish, so he's at least supposed to take Maimonides somewhat seriously. Sin is an excess of legitimate survival needs. Self-interest is a legitimate survival need but making a Golden Calf out of Greed is definitely sinful. Oy Vey. Dude is meshuga.
 
2013-09-17 03:45:39 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: 2012 numbers just came out.

46.5 million Americans, including 16.1 million children, live in poverty.


I bet more than 90% of them have refrigerators.
 
2013-09-17 03:45:49 PM  
www.washingtonpost.com
 
2013-09-17 03:47:02 PM  

Somacandra: Diogenes: But I don't think there's anything provocative about saying Jews don't follow the teachings of Jesus.But in that vein, what is the opposite of mitvah?  Averah?  He's not being sinful per se, but it certainly can't be good to take from the already poor.

As its been stated, it certainly ain't no mitzvot to demonize the poor and hungry. Cantor is Conservative Jewish, so he's at least supposed to take Maimonides somewhat seriously. Sin is an excess of legitimate survival needs. Self-interest is a legitimate survival need but making a Golden Calf out of Greed is definitely sinful. Oy Vey. Dude is meshuga.


He presumably just atoned. So he's good for another year of stepping on the throats of the poor before he has to do so again.
 
2013-09-17 03:47:32 PM  
Eric Cantor is Jewish, right?

According to the Bible, if Jesus can feed 5,000 from 5 loaves and 2 fish, Eric Cantor could do the same with 3 million.
 
2013-09-17 03:47:52 PM  

DamnYankees: disincentivizing unemployment


I'm not sure how any sane person thinks that there are incentives to being unemployed.
 
2013-09-17 03:49:01 PM  
So... Farklibs want folks to be stuck using food stamps?!
 
2013-09-17 03:49:47 PM  

Diogenes: He's trying to fulfill at least part of the Romney/Ryan plan.  There's like  billions just sitting in the national couch cushions.  Trust them.


Well, hell. There are billions in the national couch cushions. They just happen to be on the DoD loveseat.
 
2013-09-17 03:50:19 PM  

gnosis301: DamnYankees: disincentivizing unemployment

I'm not sure how any sane person thinks that there are incentives to being unemployed.


There are plenty of sane people that think things like being on welfare, receiving food stamps, being unemployed, or being in prison are riding a gravy train of free stuff. It's just that they're stupid, not necessarily insane.
 
2013-09-17 03:50:47 PM  

DamnYankees: But if giving people help disincentivizes hard work, then doesn't that mean charity itself is bad?


No, because with charity, the charitable  have the personal freedom to judge whether their fellow men deserve to live or starve.  Thus, only good, hard-working folk down on their luck will get charity, and the rest will get what their sloth has reaped.
 
2013-09-17 03:51:31 PM  

Aristocles: So... Farklibs want folks to be stuck using food stamps?!


I remember when we had trolls that made an effort. Probably because food stamps were more widely available and our resident trolls weren't too hungry and malnourished to be clever.
 
2013-09-17 03:51:34 PM  
Well thank God someone is serious about addressing federal spending.  For a moment I thought we might do something senseless like not purchase tanks the pentagon has stated it doesn't want.  We really dodged a bullet there.
 
2013-09-17 03:51:52 PM  

Aristocles: So... Farklibs want folks to be stuck using food stamps?!


Not being able to eat doesn't make them any less poor. Kinda the opposite.
 
2013-09-17 03:52:00 PM  
i.huffpost.com
 
2013-09-17 03:52:19 PM  
the culture of dependency's herd could use a little thinning...
 
2013-09-17 03:52:47 PM  

Cagey B: gnosis301: DamnYankees: disincentivizing unemployment

I'm not sure how any sane person thinks that there are incentives to being unemployed.

There are plenty of sane people that think things like being on welfare, receiving food stamps, being unemployed, or being in prison are riding a gravy train of free stuff. It's just that they're stupid, not necessarily insane.


I'm always curious why people who think being on welfare is amazing don't just quit their job and go on welfare themselves.
 
2013-09-17 03:53:16 PM  

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 679x483]
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I can think of a way Eric Cantor can prove he doesn't hate Americans who receive food stamps. Funny he didn't join these others when he had the opportunity.


The CEO of Panera just did that too...which was pretty thought provoking because his daily food budget was $4.50 and I think that's roughly half what it costs to by a sandwhich chips and a drink at his resturant
 
2013-09-17 03:53:22 PM  
If there was any justice in the world he'd be Eric Cam Whore beating off for gay men and not Eric Cantor trying to destroy the middle class and the poor.
 
2013-09-17 03:53:27 PM  

gnosis301: DamnYankees: disincentivizing unemployment

I'm not sure how any sane person thinks that there are incentives to being unemployed.


1. Money for nothing.

2. Chicks for free.
 
2013-09-17 03:54:57 PM  

BravadoGT: the culture of dependency's herd could use a little thinning...


so force walmart and fast food places to pay a higher minimum wage so we don't have to subsidize their profits with our tax money?
 
2013-09-17 03:55:28 PM  
I just don't get it, look we all know pressure is put on these guys to have favorable tax policies and business regulations/laws. They get a nice 'donation' and are expected to comply with favorable policy in return.

What I do NOT understand is why there is this push by the GOP to keep poor people down. Who benefits? The budget? Tax payers?

Farking the poor doesn't seem like something that anyone would pay to lobby about.
Doesn't seem to fit into religious doctrine.
Didn't get them enough votes.

The only thing I can come up with is it DOES fit into the small government reduce the deficit mindset. Yet there are seemingly many other better ways to do that.

What's their deal? What's the endgame? Let's imagine for a second the GOP is successful in eliminating all government assistance. Then what? We still have a deficit and we still have lots of poor people.

What's the obsession with cutting programs for the poor? Who benefits? Who gets money out of it?
 
2013-09-17 03:55:32 PM  
I got a good idea:

Implement a 1% federal sales tax.

50% goes to food stamps, 50% goes to NASA

There is no way in hell that 50% to the food stamp program will be enough to stop funding from other sources, but NASA could stop getting funded by other means because that 50% will bring in more than the 18 billion it is budgeted a year.

Why NASA? Conservatives like shiny things that make a lot of noise and have a lot of explosions. Offering 50% to NASA may just get them on board.
 
2013-09-17 03:55:53 PM  
Eric "C" Is For (Please Insert Sophomoric Genitalia Reference Here) antor is a bad person.
 
2013-09-17 03:56:06 PM  

Aristocles: So... Farklibs want folks to be stuck using food stamps?!


For the love of god, please attend a training camp.  Your comments are not indicative of a person accomplished at their craft anymore.  You're like the old guy from Major Leagues who just gave up.  Once you've finished and have the necessary certifications, apply for a new user name and return to FARK.
 
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