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(The Atlantic Wire)   While it's not yet known which of the three finalists will win CBS' "Big Brother" one thing is clear, all of them could really use the prize money as they've all already been fired from their real jobs for racist remarks they made on the show   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 62
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2013-09-17 12:53:51 PM
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2013-09-17 12:57:11 PM
*petergriffin"WHO THE HELL CARES".jpg*
 
2013-09-17 01:04:18 PM
I dont like Gina Marie. Andy and Spencer are okay I guess.

All the hot guys got voted off.
 
2013-09-17 01:07:08 PM
USA! USA! USA! USA!

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2013-09-17 01:38:21 PM
I always wondered how this works for people that appear on these shows, but have real jobs. Say you're on Big Brother, or Survivor, and the taping schedule is going to last a month. Most real jobs aren't going to give you unpaid leave to appear on a reality show for the next month.

What about Game Shows? Yeah, you might get a few days off to fly out to LA and appear on Jeopardy, but what if you're the next Ken Jennings? What if one show becomes 2 shows becomes a week, becomes the next several months? I'm sure your employer would be happy for your success, but I imagine after being gone for 10 days or so, they're probably going to can you and rehire someone else in your position.

I'm sure if you're on Jeopardy for that length of time, you're taking home a big enough pay day that your real job isn't that important, but probably not enough money that you won't ever have to work again.
 
2013-09-17 01:48:04 PM

spman: I always wondered how this works for people that appear on these shows, but have real jobs. Say you're on Big Brother, or Survivor, and the taping schedule is going to last a month. Most real jobs aren't going to give you unpaid leave to appear on a reality show for the next month.

What about Game Shows? Yeah, you might get a few days off to fly out to LA and appear on Jeopardy, but what if you're the next Ken Jennings? What if one show becomes 2 shows becomes a week, becomes the next several months? I'm sure your employer would be happy for your success, but I imagine after being gone for 10 days or so, they're probably going to can you and rehire someone else in your position.

I'm sure if you're on Jeopardy for that length of time, you're taking home a big enough pay day that your real job isn't that important, but probably not enough money that you won't ever have to work again.


For things like survivor, some people can take a sabatical or request unpaid time.  I think something like survivor or amazing race is 40 days start to finish, regardless of how you place.  so you end up in club me if you are booted early, so you essentially get a free vacation.

on big brother, since it's live, everyone knows when you left, so you can just go back to work after you do your appearance on the CBS morning talk shows and say what you thought of the experience.

for Game shows, from what I understand, they tape 5 episodes a day well in advance.  last year my friend was on.  they tapes his episodes in June and they didn't air until October.  As you stated, if you are there for a month.

and you're right, if you win Ken Jennings money, you can just get another job when you come home.
 
2013-09-17 01:53:20 PM

ManateeGag: spman: I always wondered how this works for people that appear on these shows, but have real jobs. Say you're on Big Brother, or Survivor, and the taping schedule is going to last a month. Most real jobs aren't going to give you unpaid leave to appear on a reality show for the next month.

What about Game Shows? Yeah, you might get a few days off to fly out to LA and appear on Jeopardy, but what if you're the next Ken Jennings? What if one show becomes 2 shows becomes a week, becomes the next several months? I'm sure your employer would be happy for your success, but I imagine after being gone for 10 days or so, they're probably going to can you and rehire someone else in your position.

I'm sure if you're on Jeopardy for that length of time, you're taking home a big enough pay day that your real job isn't that important, but probably not enough money that you won't ever have to work again.

For things like survivor, some people can take a sabatical or request unpaid time.  I think something like survivor or amazing race is 40 days start to finish, regardless of how you place.  so you end up in club me if you are booted early, so you essentially get a free vacation.

on big brother, since it's live, everyone knows when you left, so you can just go back to work after you do your appearance on the CBS morning talk shows and say what you thought of the experience.

for Game shows, from what I understand, they tape 5 episodes a day well in advance.  last year my friend was on.  they tapes his episodes in June and they didn't air until October.  As you stated, if you are there for a month.

and you're right, if you win Ken Jennings money, you can just get another job when you come home.


Do most jobs offer unpaid time or sabbaticals? In any job I've ever had, other than where required by law ie: FMLA or Military Service, or in cases of school leave, there wasn't really an option for unpaid leave of absence. You use up your paid time off, and once that was up, you have to return to work, and if you don't, they replace you.
 
2013-09-17 02:05:31 PM
Whar Angry Cat? He hates racists.
 
2013-09-17 02:06:38 PM
Except the article is bullshiat.

If you bother following the links they posted in the article, you'll see that Spencer Clawson was not fired from his job, and Andy Herren was not fired from his job.  Only Ginamarie was fired.
 
2013-09-17 02:08:22 PM
Big Brother is still a thing?
 
2013-09-17 02:11:16 PM
I'm not familiar with these people and their life's histories, so I don't know exactly what they did prior to being on the show.  That said, only one of the 3 links in TFA actually says the person was fired.  Another is currently on "unpaid leave" to be on the show, and his employer is currently "exploring its options" according to the union contract.  The 3rd link simply says the guy used to work there, and I have no idea if that is a change in his employment status from before the show.

The only common thing among all three is that their current/former employers are distancing themselves from the contestants' comments.
 
2013-09-17 02:17:28 PM
GinaMarie Zimmerman was fired from her job as a pageant coordinator

Isn't this a free-lance gig?  Like being fired from your job as a dog walker?
 
2013-09-17 02:17:48 PM
Seriously, who watches this shiat and why?
 
2013-09-17 02:19:22 PM
Don't you already have to have some major personality disorders to even want to be on these shows in the first place?
 
2013-09-17 02:20:42 PM

spman: I always wondered how this works for people that appear on these shows, but have real jobs. Say you're on Big Brother, or Survivor, and the taping schedule is going to last a month. Most real jobs aren't going to give you unpaid leave to appear on a reality show for the next month.

What about Game Shows? Yeah, you might get a few days off to fly out to LA and appear on Jeopardy, but what if you're the next Ken Jennings? What if one show becomes 2 shows becomes a week, becomes the next several months? I'm sure your employer would be happy for your success, but I imagine after being gone for 10 days or so, they're probably going to can you and rehire someone else in your position.

I'm sure if you're on Jeopardy for that length of time, you're taking home a big enough pay day that your real job isn't that important, but probably not enough money that you won't ever have to work again.


It's called a Leave of Absence. I used it once to take a summer off and work at the North Rim, before all of the people in Phx made me get all watch-tower...
 
2013-09-17 02:22:01 PM

ManateeGag: I think something like survivor or amazing race is 40 days start to finish, regardless of how you place. so you end up in club me if you are booted early, so you essentially get a free vacation.


Survivor is 39 days (of the game) and a little over 50 total, including travel time on both ends and some pre-show prep they do.  TAR is usually about 3 1/2 weeks and end up being a little shy of 40 days.

BB is the bad one.  Winners get half as much (500k instead of 1 million) and the timeframe (for people who make it to jury) is just under 100 days.

So travel around the world for 25 days for a million, live on a tropical beach for 39 days for a million, or be stuck in a house you can't leave for 80+ days for 500k.  The choice is clear.
 
2013-09-17 02:22:30 PM

Rapmaster2000: GinaMarie Zimmerman was fired from her job as a pageant coordinator

Isn't this a free-lance gig?  Like being fired from your job as a dog walker?


Seriously? There's serious money on pageants, I have no problem believing that there are companies who put together all of the work for the entity wanting to hold a pageant. I'd have a harder time believing that such a company DIDN'T exist, actually...
 
2013-09-17 02:24:21 PM
All three (and head racist in charge Aaryn Gries who was booted from her modeling agency for a string of racist remarks which she later denied saying even though they were on tape and broadcast to the entire world over the Internet) have been kept away from news from the outside world since joining the show, so there's going to be some pretty rude awakenings after the game concludes. No matter who takes the prize, they're all losers.

Um, they shoot shiat like this in advance, and then make everyone sign a NDA. If this show is different, I would be very surprised.These people all know that they have been fired and that normal people hate reality TV.
 
2013-09-17 02:27:33 PM

Mikey1969: Um, they shoot shiat like this in advance, and then make everyone sign a NDA. If this show is different, I would be very surprised.These people all know that they have been fired and that normal people hate reality TV.


Um, this show is live.
 
2013-09-17 02:28:11 PM
I don't understand this headline or anything being posted in this thread and now I'm not sure why I even bothered coming in...
 
2013-09-17 02:32:22 PM

mjbok: TAR is usually about 3 1/2 weeks and end up being a little shy of 40 days.


True Fact:  Mrs_Fab and I filled out the application to be on TAR once. It was, by far, the most personally invasive set of questions I have ever had to answer from anyone, in any context, at any time. I had to list, in rank order, the 5 things I loved best AND disliked most about my wife. They wanted to know my most embarrassing secret, and my greatest fear. And so on.

But it was the weeks spent off the job that made us both reconsider.
 
2013-09-17 02:35:52 PM

mjbok: Mikey1969: Um, they shoot shiat like this in advance, and then make everyone sign a NDA. If this show is different, I would be very surprised.These people all know that they have been fired and that normal people hate reality TV.

Um, this show is live.


Um, it seems to be a mix of live and taped, with the 'After Dark' thing being the only one that is consistently and truly always live. I still stand by my other point, these people aren't "cut off", they know what's going on in the world.
 
2013-09-17 02:38:41 PM
I don't want any of the three to win and while I know one will have to, they should donate the money to charity or even to a former season's HG's kid who is in the hospital.
 
2013-09-17 02:41:34 PM

Mikey1969: mjbok: Mikey1969: Um, they shoot shiat like this in advance, and then make everyone sign a NDA. If this show is different, I would be very surprised.These people all know that they have been fired and that normal people hate reality TV.

Um, this show is live.

Um, it seems to be a mix of live and taped, with the 'After Dark' thing being the only one that is consistently and truly always live. I still stand by my other point, these people aren't "cut off", they know what's going on in the world.


What is seen on TV is a mix of live and taped, but the show itself is essentially live (and 24-7).  And I have no problem believing they are cut off from their personal lives (with exceptions for specific emergencies).  Completely cut off from the news, probably not so much.  At least, real news.
 
2013-09-17 02:45:18 PM

vernonFL: I dont like Gina Marie. Andy and Spencer are okay I guess.

All the hot guys got voted off.


you're an Andy fan?! Ugh! He is such an entitled, whiny little rat...  He calls everyone who ever voted against him a homophobe, not because he's an annoying little twerp or anything.
 
2013-09-17 02:45:59 PM

wxboy: What is seen on TV is a mix of live and taped, but the show itself is essentially live (and 24-7). And I have no problem believing they are cut off from their personal lives (with exceptions for specific emergencies). Completely cut off from the news, probably not so much. At least, real news.


No they don't have access to news, phones, internet, etc.  Even those in jury do not (though they might have "supervised" phone calls to home.  When 9/11 happened they actually made an exception to this to tell the people what happened, and in the past there have been challenges that had access to a newspaper as a reward or had questions about what was happening in the world.  One of the questions was: "True or false, Brett Favre unretired and has signed with the Jets."
 
2013-09-17 02:47:11 PM

cookiefleck: vernonFL: I dont like Gina Marie. Andy and Spencer are okay I guess.

All the hot guys got voted off.

you're an Andy fan?! Ugh! He is such an entitled, whiny little rat...  He calls everyone who ever voted against him a homophobe, not because he's an annoying little twerp or anything.


This. I don't want Andy to be in 1st or 2nd nor do I want him to be America's Favorite.
 
2013-09-17 02:53:42 PM
As someone who subscribes to the live feeds (don't judge me), this has really been the summer of horrible people. Right now all they're doing is sitting around and bashing former houseguests all day.
 
2013-09-17 03:00:03 PM
TEAM CHICKEN PAHM
 
2013-09-17 03:08:30 PM

spman: I always wondered how this works for people that appear on these shows, but have real jobs. Say you're on Big Brother, or Survivor, and the taping schedule is going to last a month. Most real jobs aren't going to give you unpaid leave to appear on a reality show for the next month.

What about Game Shows? Yeah, you might get a few days off to fly out to LA and appear on Jeopardy, but what if you're the next Ken Jennings? What if one show becomes 2 shows becomes a week, becomes the next several months? I'm sure your employer would be happy for your success, but I imagine after being gone for 10 days or so, they're probably going to can you and rehire someone else in your position.

I'm sure if you're on Jeopardy for that length of time, you're taking home a big enough pay day that your real job isn't that important, but probably not enough money that you won't ever have to work again.


Most of the people on these shows don't have real careers and can get a new McJob when the show ends. Mostly they are wannabe actors with job titles like "student", "bartender", "model". Even "Professor" Andy is probably an adjunct, which is a nice way of saying "part-time temp".
 
2013-09-17 03:11:17 PM
Sex video being negotiated as we speak, at least for the skank. She looks like she will take it in every orifice for cash. She'll be fine.
 
2013-09-17 03:16:59 PM

spman:   

Do most jobs offer unpaid time or sabbaticals? In any job I've ever had, other than where required by law ie: FMLA or Military Service, or in cases of school leave, there wasn't really an option for unpaid leave of absence. You use up your paid time off, and once that was up, ...


It probably depends on how much your employer likes you and whether up are easily replaceable. Even then, if your boss is going to fire you for no other reason than you took a couple of days unpaid leave because a great opportunity for you came up but you were out of vacation time, then your boss is probably a bit of an asshole.
 
2013-09-17 03:42:57 PM

duckpoopy: Most of the people on these shows don't have real careers and can get a new McJob when the show ends. Mostly they are wannabe actors with job titles like "student", "bartender", "model". Even "Professor" Andy is probably an adjunct, which is a nice way of saying "part-time temp".


Yeah, I mean, look at that pic... BB is basically a big.

If anyone recalls the first season, that was actually somewhat interesting, since it was a mix of a bunch of what at least seemed like "average people"... not 12 hard body wanna-be actors and models living in a house.  But, I guess that is what the audience wants to see.

As far as the show being "live" or not... I recall there was some debate in the 2nd season about not telling the people still living in the house about 9/11 until two or three days later, so, at least at that time, they were pretty cut off from news and the "world".
 
2013-09-17 03:44:02 PM
Got ahead of myself and forgot to finish my first point:

dletter: Yeah, I mean, look at that pic... BB is basically a big AW show for wanna be actors and models.

 
2013-09-17 03:45:23 PM

spman: Do most jobs offer unpaid time or sabbaticals? In any job I've ever had, other than where required by law ie: FMLA or Military Service, or in cases of school leave, there wasn't really an option for unpaid leave of absence. You use up your paid time off, and once that was up, you have to return to work, and if you don't, they replace you.


It wouldn't be FMLA protected (though Coach from Survivor tried to say he was going to get cancer treatment for 60 days).  So even if you get a leave of absence, they could decide to fill your position while you are gone.
 
2013-09-17 03:48:50 PM

2chris2: Except the article is bullshiat.

If you bother following the links they posted in the article, you'll see that Spencer Clawson was not fired from his job, and Andy Herren was not fired from his job.  Only Ginamarie was fired.


That's right. You can't fire gay people.

/last one booted is out of the prize money.
 
2013-09-17 03:52:22 PM

mjbok: ManateeGag: I think something like survivor or amazing race is 40 days start to finish, regardless of how you place. so you end up in club me if you are booted early, so you essentially get a free vacation.

Survivor is 39 days (of the game) and a little over 50 total, including travel time on both ends and some pre-show prep they do.  TAR is usually about 3 1/2 weeks and end up being a little shy of 40 days.

BB is the bad one.  Winners get half as much (500k instead of 1 million) and the timeframe (for people who make it to jury) is just under 100 days.

So travel around the world for 25 days for a million, live on a tropical beach for 39 days for a million, or be stuck in a house you can't leave for 80+ days for 500k.  The choice is clear.


The first two are also edited for your discretion. Things are shown months after the fact.

Survivor has never thrown anyone out (there was an impromptu "Tribal Council" when one of the Hantzes went off the deep end at a challenge), and Amazing Race even left an ill-tempered boyfriend who shoved his girlfriend stay in.
 
2013-09-17 04:07:51 PM

OtherLittleGuy: The first two are also edited for your discretion. Things are shown months after the fact.


With the exception of the live feeds, BBAD and the Thursday eviction, BB is too.  It is going on live, and the live feeds do show much more than the real show, it still is somewhat censored.  Compare Amanda and/or Elissa on the CBS show vs. the live feeds.  Very different.  GM also.  BB does shape an edit around people, just not to the extent of TAR or Survivor.

The thing about BB that I find impressive is how quickly they turn it around and still have a cohesive narrative.  Survivor and TAR know the outcome so it is easy to shape an edit this way or that.  BB doesn't have that advantage and the person on top the first few weeks is rarely the one standing with the check at the end.
 
2013-09-17 04:08:22 PM
I read a discussion about whether CBS created a hostile working environment by intentionally hiring racist contestants for the show. Though I'm sure the contestants sign away any ability to sue the network before being able to be on the show.
 
2013-09-17 04:13:15 PM

fiddlehead: I read a discussion about whether CBS created a hostile working environment by intentionally hiring racist contestants for the show. Though I'm sure the contestants sign away any ability to sue the network before being able to be on the show.


They sign their life away to be on big brother... I couldn't be on it, because I like having one or two hours completely to myself everyday, but I love watching these idiots that apparently don't mind having every fart documented.
 
2013-09-17 04:32:14 PM

cookiefleck: fiddlehead: I read a discussion about whether CBS created a hostile working environment by intentionally hiring racist contestants for the show. Though I'm sure the contestants sign away any ability to sue the network before being able to be on the show.

They sign their life away to be on big brother... I couldn't be on it, because I like having one or two hours completely to myself everyday, but I love watching these idiots that apparently don't mind having every fart documented.


Look at the MTV Real World contract. Those people sign away their families right to sue if they are killed as a result of the show. I'm pretty sure they all have a similar contract.
 
2013-09-17 04:37:10 PM
Nobody wins. Those assholes certainly don't, but, let's face it, anyone watching that "show" isn't exactly doing society a favor, either. Hell, I feel dirty even commenting about it.
 
2013-09-17 04:43:38 PM
How do they determine who stays and who goes? Do the contestants vote? Or does the audience vote? If it is the audience, then what does it say about the viewers of that show when those 3 idiots are finalist.
 
2013-09-17 04:50:27 PM
I admit The Amazing Race is the one reality show I would *really* like to be on. I think my younger brother and I would make for excellent television.

I also have the ability to a) read a map, and B) ask for directions when I am in a new place, so I'm probably already ahead of half the @#%$#@ people they put on that show.
 
2013-09-17 04:52:16 PM

Felgraf: I admit The Amazing Race is the one reality show I would *really* like to be on. I think my younger brother and I would make for excellent television.

I also have the ability to a) read a map, and B) ask for directions when I am in a new place, so I'm probably already ahead of half the @#%$#@ people they put on that show.


This probably would disqualify you as a contestant.
 
2013-09-17 04:59:31 PM

ongbok: Felgraf: I admit The Amazing Race is the one reality show I would *really* like to be on. I think my younger brother and I would make for excellent television.

I also have the ability to a) read a map, and B) ask for directions when I am in a new place, so I'm probably already ahead of half the @#%$#@ people they put on that show.

This probably would disqualify you as a contestant.


"Maybe we should stop to ask for directions!" "I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING!" *20 minutes later( "OH NO! HOW COULD WE GO TWENTY MINUTES IN THE WRONG DIRECTION!"

I never, ever understood why people do not ask for directions on that show at every opportunity. It will take you, like, three friggen seconds.

/Now, when they get stuck with cab drivers that are complete asses/lie about knowing where they are going, that's not really the contestant's fault.
//That screwed over Jet and Cord, didn't it?
 
2013-09-17 05:00:49 PM
McCrae got a few months of sex with a crazy girl and several thousand dollars.

So there's that.
 
2013-09-17 05:05:42 PM
No matter what happens, I want all of the finalists pelted by rice.
 
2013-09-17 05:08:58 PM
Mccrae did not have consensual sex with Amanda all the time... there were incidents where you could hear him struggling and whimpering and saying "no". Oh and it's the house guests that vote each other off on big brother... That's why the audience is left with these basic biatches as final 3.
 
2013-09-17 05:17:34 PM

cookiefleck: Mccrae did not have consensual sex with Amanda all the time... there were incidents where you could hear him struggling and whimpering and saying "no". Oh and it's the house guests that vote each other off on big brother... That's why the audience is left with these basic biatches as final 3.


The US version of BB is one of the few where the public doesn't vote out the guests. You can bet your ass they'd have held in all that racist shiat if the audience voted here.
 
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