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(Yahoo)   WA stoners: "You can't, like, own nature, man." Federal park rangers: "Yes, yes we can"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 201
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2013-09-17 02:41:23 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: Is it a federal crime when you are cited on U.S. parks for littering or other petty crimes? Do you have to appear in Federal court? Never thought about this before...


I believe so.

I got a speeding ticket in a national park a couple years ago.  I was able to get out of it by talking to the prosecutor who probably had bigger cases to worry about, but I still had to go to federal court.
 
2013-09-17 02:41:51 PM  

New Slang: These rangers must be jerks.  Before it was legal, I used to get caught by the cops on several occassions.  The worst thing that ever happened was they kept my stash.

Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.


Not really. They are much braver than most LEOs. They face armed suspects more than any other LEOs, they work alone almost exclusively, and they often operate outside of radio or cell phone communication, so they can't call in back-up.
 
2013-09-17 02:43:57 PM  

bluefox3681: Color me surprised that people that were breaking the law before mary jane was legalized will still not give two craps about the law after it is legalized.

Kind of makes you think about the type of character these people have?


It's no worse than the character of the people who made it illegal so they could profit..
It's no worse than the character of the people who parrot drug propaganda from the 60s to re-enforce their cause.
And it's definitely no worse than ruining otherwise productive lives to punish something that causes much less harm than alcohol to our society.

Sometimes the most momentum in breaking down an unjust law comes from simply ignoring it. There are plenty of laws on the books with very little purpose in modern life, and I suspect the pot laws will go that same route.
 
2013-09-17 02:44:45 PM  
i1.kym-cdn.com

Coincidence??
 
2013-09-17 02:44:50 PM  

ZAZ: Karen Strand didn't think she'd get in trouble for having a small container of medical marijuana when she went hiking in Olympic National Park this summer. But a ranger pulled her over on a remote gravel road, and Strand wound up as one of at least 27,700 people cited for having pot on federal land since 2009, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal court data.

Is this a common pothead misconception? A friend of mine acted like Colorado legal = OK to smoke openly on federal land. Luckily no rangers were around.


It's a common misconception about all sorts of rules where State and Federal laws collide.  Lots of people who carry weapons when hiking (for defense against wild animals) don't realize that there are very clear differences between State and Federal law that take into effect in a National Park or Forest.
 
2013-09-17 02:46:34 PM  

abiigdog: scottydoesntknow: stirfrybry: ZAZ: I'll call pothead when smoking is a major part of lifestyle rather than an occasional recreational activity.

Like when it's used for medicinal purposes. Those potheads should just deal with their cancer. Eat something already!

That's pretty stupid. Do you call patients needing pain medication "pill-poppers"? No. When it's required to live a somewhat normal life, then it's not a recreational activity.

Unfortunately for you all the recreational smokers claim (gasp) medicinal requirement to the point where no one believes you anymore, the pot culture shot themselves in the foot on that one.


"Hey, man!  I have cold, man!  Can I get a pot card, Doctor Man?"
"Heeeeey, sure, man!  I can do that over the phone, man!  You don't even need to come to the office, man!"
 
2013-09-17 02:46:41 PM  
Stoners are the new Indians?
 
2013-09-17 02:46:52 PM  
www.winkyboo.com
`It looks like we scored some preemo face-peeler, Boo-Boo!'

`Let's hope Mr. Ranger doesn't narc our buzz, Yogi.'
 
2013-09-17 02:47:32 PM  
Drilling for oil is still OK though, right?
 
2013-09-17 02:48:44 PM  

New Slang: These rangers must be jerks.  Before it was legal, I used to get caught by the cops on several occassions.  The worst thing that ever happened was they kept my stash.

Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.


Generalizing people is fun!

Some of those "bottom feeders" save a lot of lives. Check into the work they do in Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, and elsewhere.

They're also by far the most likely federal law enforcement personnel to be assaulted and killed. Bonus: Their pay sucks.
 
2013-09-17 02:49:13 PM  

GanjSmokr: FTFA:Other concerns on the DOJ's list include keeping marijuana away from kids and cartels, preventing drugged driving and pot-related gun violence, and keeping unregulated marijuana grows from spoiling federal land.

How about we just try to prevent pot-related violence in general and stop trying to inject gun-control verbiage everywhere we can?


Well, all pot-related violence is related to cartels and gangs trying to control it.  It's not like someone tokes up, flies into a rage, and beats his wife or something.
 
2013-09-17 02:52:35 PM  
I absolutely hate the decriminalization bullshiat that we have going on.  Make it farking legal and get it over with.  Having it be inconsistently applied, with some wink-and-nudge-not-going-to-charge-you or some "prescription" you get for $59 from someone advertising on temporary signs at expressway offramps is ridiculous.

Make it legal, legitimate companies will make it, it'll get destigmatized, most people will consume it as edibles, and we can get on with this idiocy.
 
2013-09-17 02:52:53 PM  

Cybernetic: factoryconnection: mediablitz: Do you drink at all? Does that make you an alcoholic? No? Then why is ANYONE who smokes marijuana immediately a "pothead" in your book?

Smoking pot doesn't make you a pothead.  Being a clueless moron about it makes you a pothead.  I don't smoke but man I would be 100% clear on the laws around it before I ever thought I was "in the clear" doing so.

I guess the paranoia comes naturally for me.

In that sense, it's really no different than making sure that you know what the open-container laws are before you go walking down the street (or through a national park) with a beer in your hand. And alcohol is also pretty tightly controlled in national parks. Some parks prohibit it altogether.


SOME PARKS PROHIBIT IT!
 
2013-09-17 02:54:05 PM  
actually you can't own nature. nature can own you though.
 
2013-09-17 02:54:37 PM  

factoryconnection: Smoking pot doesn't make you a pothead. Being a clueless moron about it makes you a pothead. I don't smoke but man I would be 100% clear on the laws around it before I ever thought I was "in the clear" doing so.


Pot's illegal by federal law everywhere, but it's selectively not enforced in the case of medical marijuana (sometimes) and in Washington and Colorado. I don't think the person in the article is a 'clueless moron' for not realizing that gap in federal enforcement in Washington (which the government has directly stated, mind you) doesn't apply to the national park. This is more a problem with selective enforcement of laws, state laws that contradict federal ones, and the government keeping around certain drug laws on the federal level even though it's pretty clear the states want and should probably get control of them.
 
2013-09-17 02:54:41 PM  
"I've never been arrested in my life, and now I'm being threatened with six months in jail and a $5,000 fine for using my medicine?" she said. "It was my understanding the government was not going to mess with individual patients."


Oh, honey...

i270.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-17 02:54:55 PM  

patrick767: New Slang: These rangers must be jerks.  Before it was legal, I used to get caught by the cops on several occassions.  The worst thing that ever happened was they kept my stash.

Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.

Generalizing people is fun!

Some of those "bottom feeders" save a lot of lives. Check into the work they do in Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, and elsewhere.

They're also by far the most likely federal law enforcement personnel to be assaulted and killed. Bonus: Their pay sucks.


yeah that's a bull farking shiat statement from patrick767
 
2013-09-17 02:55:49 PM  

ZAZ: Karen Strand didn't think she'd get in trouble for having a small container of medical marijuana when she went hiking in Olympic National Park this summer. But a ranger pulled her over on a remote gravel road, and Strand wound up as one of at least 27,700 people cited for having pot on federal land since 2009, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal court data.

Is this a common pothead misconception? A friend of mine acted like Colorado legal = OK to smoke openly on federal land. Luckily no rangers were around.


I thought the distinction was pretty clear between federal and state lands, and that the statement that it was not allowed on federal land was pretty clear.

But I pay attention and try to remain sober for most of my work day. There are lots of idiots or simply clueless people out there.
 
2013-09-17 02:57:11 PM  

buckeyebrain: abiigdog: scottydoesntknow: stirfrybry: ZAZ: I'll call pothead when smoking is a major part of lifestyle rather than an occasional recreational activity.

Like when it's used for medicinal purposes. Those potheads should just deal with their cancer. Eat something already!

That's pretty stupid. Do you call patients needing pain medication "pill-poppers"? No. When it's required to live a somewhat normal life, then it's not a recreational activity.

Unfortunately for you all the recreational smokers claim (gasp) medicinal requirement to the point where no one believes you anymore, the pot culture shot themselves in the foot on that one.

"Hey, man!  I have cold, man!  Can I get a pot card, Doctor Man?"
"Heeeeey, sure, man!  I can do that over the phone, man!  You don't even need to come to the office, man!"


When I was last at the dentist they seemed awfully willing to write me a prescription for "the strong stuff". So it isn't just medical MJ cards. Doctors are in the business of making people feel better. This is why folks go to see them. Some of them are more than willing to give you what you want and this isn't something new.

-Dr. Roberts
 
2013-09-17 02:57:28 PM  
Odd Bird

I doubt the administration is micro-managing.
At least that's your stance now that bush is out and until the next R takes zero's spot.
 
2013-09-17 03:00:20 PM  

mediablitz: ZAZ: Karen Strand didn't think she'd get in trouble for having a small container of medical marijuana when she went hiking in Olympic National Park this summer. But a ranger pulled her over on a remote gravel road, and Strand wound up as one of at least 27,700 people cited for having pot on federal land since 2009, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal court data.

Is this a common pothead misconception? A friend of mine acted like Colorado legal = OK to smoke openly on federal land. Luckily no rangers were around.

Wonder how long that stupid word is going to stick around. I guess it makes it easier for you to overlook the fact that the federal government is wasting its time and money busting someone for having a joint?

Do you drink at all? Does that make you an alcoholic? No? Then why is ANYONE who smokes marijuana immediately a "pothead" in your book?


Using the word pothead for people who can't be assed out to figure out laws that are pretty clear has nothing to with a stance on federal enforcement of said laws.

If somebody needed alcohol so bad they had to bring it to a park where it wasn't allowed then claimed ignorance of laws on alcohol in a park, I hink the alcoholic lable works.
 
2013-09-17 03:02:35 PM  

kindms: buckeyebrain: abiigdog: scottydoesntknow: stirfrybry: ZAZ: I'll call pothead when smoking is a major part of lifestyle rather than an occasional recreational activity.

When I was last at the dentist they seemed awfully willing to write me a prescription for "the strong stuff". So it isn't just medical MJ cards. Doctors are in the business of making people feel better.


At the conclusion of my last appointment, my doctor asked if there was anything he could 'do' for me.... I used this as an opportunity, and asked for an Adderol prescription.  He got a little antsy and instead referred me to a psychiatrist buddy of his. said it was for all intents and purposes, a methamphetimine, and wasn't comfortable prescribing it.
 
2013-09-17 03:04:46 PM  

meanmutton: I absolutely hate the decriminalization bullshiat that we have going on.  Make it farking legal and get it over with.  Having it be inconsistently applied, with some wink-and-nudge-not-going-to-charge-you or some "prescription" you get for $59 from someone advertising on temporary signs at expressway offramps is ridiculous.

Make it legal, legitimate companies will make it, it'll get destigmatized, most people will consume it as edibles, and we can get on with this idiocy.


That would be because the destigmatization has to produce enough revenue to make it happen.
The effort is not to make MJ accessible, but to continue the PROFIT addiction.
 
2013-09-17 03:05:54 PM  

New Slang: These rangers must be jerks.  Before it was legal, I used to get caught by the cops on several occassions.  The worst thing that ever happened was they kept my stash.

Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.


They also have federal backing, which mall cops have none of. Hell even Fish and Game can make your life very, very difficult these days. When you're making opinions, try to stay on this side of the dirt too.

The point is: don't be stupid about it. When you grow on federal land, what methods do you use? How do you get your water? Did you cut down any trees and clear land? How many critters did you kill with all the fertilizers and rodentcide? This shiat happens. A lot, especially in my part of the "free land to be owned by no one". You have squatters in the general sense, and you also have a certain segment of people that will squat on anything, for any reason, and make the arguement "it's my tax dollars! I should be able to do as I please with it!" Believe me, SoOR and NorCal are full of those types. (kind of goes back to that whole State of Jefferson thing with people, but that's for another day).

Again, quit being a moran about it. A lot of fed lands are for the benefit of everyone, not just your damn self and you're grow op and trying to hide behind the ignorance of law. Give it time, and it could become something as simple as getting a permit for gathering firewood or a burn permit for slash burning, or just a fishing permit. But it won't happen unless you start complying with some of the laws, regardless of one's person's opinions about it.

Another actual concern about it, is burning material in forests that are tinderboxes. If you burn your thumb sparking up your fatty or pipe (or a cigarette you're done with), and you toss it to the ground, are you prepared to put out a forest fire? I know that sounds pretty extreme, but it's a real argument around here.

I know of many people who have grown weed or still do that think they can circumvent say, property forfeiture laws by growing on government lands if/when they get busted. It doesn't work that way, but people can sure go ahead and try. However in the meantime, don't be an a$$ and claim your freedom$ are being taken away because you're playing $tupid and got caught. Perhaps as I already said, getting a weed permit or a water rights agreement for an "agricultural" operation will be no more difficult than tying your shoes, but we're not there yet.
 
2013-09-17 03:06:52 PM  
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Does not approve
 
2013-09-17 03:07:07 PM  

T.rex: kindms: buckeyebrain: abiigdog: scottydoesntknow: stirfrybry: ZAZ: I'll call pothead when smoking is a major part of lifestyle rather than an occasional recreational activity.

When I was last at the dentist they seemed awfully willing to write me a prescription for "the strong stuff". So it isn't just medical MJ cards. Doctors are in the business of making people feel better.

At the conclusion of my last appointment, my doctor asked if there was anything he could 'do' for me.... I used this as an opportunity, and asked for an Adderol prescription.  He got a little antsy and instead referred me to a psychiatrist buddy of his. said it was for all intents and purposes, a methamphetimine, and wasn't comfortable prescribing it.


There is a bullchit program called "Standard of Medical Care".
Defines which docs are expected to prescribe which drugs.
Can't step outside your spec w/o drawing attention.
 
2013-09-17 03:07:07 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: Is it a federal crime when you are cited on U.S. parks for littering or other petty crimes? Do you have to appear in Federal court? Never thought about this before...


I had a girlfriend who got busted smoking weed at the Statue of Liberty and it is indeed a federal crime but often treated as a summary offense so if you don't contest it, you can pay a fine and go on your way. That is the way Stacy's dumb adventure went.
 
2013-09-17 03:08:42 PM  

AdamK: patrick767: New Slang: These rangers must be jerks.  Before it was legal, I used to get caught by the cops on several occassions.  The worst thing that ever happened was they kept my stash.

Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.

Generalizing people is fun!

Some of those "bottom feeders" save a lot of lives. Check into the work they do in Yosemite, the Grand Canyon, and elsewhere.

They're also by far the most likely federal law enforcement personnel to be assaulted and killed. Bonus: Their pay sucks.

yeah that's a bull farking shiat statement from patrick767


Go fark yourself.
 
2013-09-17 03:09:01 PM  

meanmutton: Well, all pot-related violence is related to cartels and gangs trying to control it.  It's not like someone tokes up, flies into a rage, and beats his wife or something.


That's exactly how it works. The government told me so. If you smoke pot

You will turn in to a rodent and then smoke poison
www.adweek.com

It will turn you in to a worse zombie than meth
www.weouthere.net

Using teh marijuana will cost you money, jobs, friends, and even your SANITY
endofthegame.files.wordpress.com


It will even make you associate with jazz musicians (gasp) and get aggressive
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Really it's not surprising the two camps are so far about. Morans (like Sanjay Gupta) belived the government propaganda without questioning it. In there minds it is an evil substance that destroys lives! And to people who have actually TRIED pot and have socialized with high friends it is clear that the government and antidrug warriors are pants-on-head retarded automatons without a shred of common sense.

I know which one I believe, but I have sympathy for those the government and other well-intentioned fools have misled.
 
2013-09-17 03:09:21 PM  

monoski: OtherBrotherDarryl: Is it a federal crime when you are cited on U.S. parks for littering or other petty crimes? Do you have to appear in Federal court? Never thought about this before...

I had a girlfriend who got busted smoking weed at the Statue of Liberty and it is indeed a federal crime but often treated as a summary offense so if you don't contest it, you can pay a fine and go on your way. That is the way Stacy's dumb adventure went.


So, it is just a fund raiser, eh?
 
2013-09-17 03:09:25 PM  

Carn: Nobody owns the water, it's God's water.


What if someone walks onto your beach, right? Like, let's say you do own it...
 
2013-09-17 03:10:10 PM  
FTFA:    far less than the ounce, or 28 grams, allowed by Washington's recreational pot law, or the 24 ounces allowed by the state's medical marijuana law.

When I first read that, I read both as grams, and it struck me as odd that they allowed more for fun than they allowed for medical purposes.

When I realized that the medical law said "24 ounces" I realized that my first impression was wrong.  But, 24 ounces?  Holy shiat that's a lot of weed.  That is a pound and a farking half of weed.

What is that?  Buy a year's worth and get a discount?
 
2013-09-17 03:10:20 PM  

bluefox3681: Color me surprised that people that were breaking the law before mary jane was legalized will still not give two craps about the law after it is legalized.

Kind of makes you think about the type of character these people have?


Egads, the NERVE of these criminals!!!

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2013-09-17 03:10:47 PM  

BigNumber12: "I've never been arrested in my life, and now I'm being threatened with six months in jail and a $5,000 fine for using my medicine?" she said. "It was my understanding the government was not going to mess with individual patients."


Oh, honey...

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www.maniacworld.com
 
2013-09-17 03:12:26 PM  

GanjSmokr: neversubmit: GanjSmokr: FTFA:Other concerns on the DOJ's list include keeping marijuana away from kids and cartels, preventing drugged driving and pot-related gun violence, and keeping unregulated marijuana grows from spoiling federal land.

How about we just try to prevent pot-related violence in general and stop trying to inject gun-control verbiage everywhere we can?


How about we just prevent violence?

Beer-related gun violence?

I'm good with this. We should try to prevent all violence-related violence.


GanjSmokr: I'm good with this. We should try to prevent all violence-related violence.


Pot would help with that....
 
2013-09-17 03:14:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: TheDirtyNacho: Could be worse.  Here in TX there are border patrol checkpoints on all the highways leading away from the parks near the border.  Having pot on you when stopped at one of those puts you in jail for the rest of the day... or worse, depending on how much it is.

I remember my friends and I crossing the border one night to go party. Had a great time, got black-out drunk, and my buddy ended up buying some ditch brick from a guy on a bike (who I could swear he pulled out his ass, but I was black-out). Anyway, next morning we're crossing back over, and they flag down our truck for a random search. Everyone starts sweating their asses off because no one could remember what happened to the little baggie.

Dogs come, do a sweep, and then nothing.

As they start walking away, my other friend busts out laughing saying he flushed that shiat right before we left and just wanted to see us freak out.

/CSB


That's pure evil...I love it.
 
2013-09-17 03:17:40 PM  

SpectroBoy: Sanjay Gupta


He must have had a change of heart at some point. He seems to be advocating for it somewhat now....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShnVEmdS2o
 
2013-09-17 03:19:16 PM  

Strik3r: SpectroBoy: Sanjay Gupta

He must have had a change of heart at some point. He seems to be advocating for it somewhat now....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShnVEmdS2o


At some point, the rats are gonna flop flip on this and leave the sinking ship.
 
2013-09-17 03:20:01 PM  

neversubmit: GanjSmokr: FTFA:Other concerns on the DOJ's list include keeping marijuana away from kids and cartels, preventing drugged driving and pot-related gun violence, and keeping unregulated marijuana grows from spoiling federal land.

How about we just try to prevent pot-related violence in general and stop trying to inject gun-control verbiage everywhere we can?


How about we just prevent violence?

Beer-related gun violence?


Beer- related gun violence is a real thing. It's why it's illegal to carry a gun in a place serving you alcohol in a lot of states.

/pot-related gun violence as a trend is a ridiculous idea, though.
 
2013-09-17 03:20:42 PM  

Strik3r: SpectroBoy: Sanjay Gupta

He must have had a change of heart at some point. He seems to be advocating for it somewhat now....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShnVEmdS2o


Yes. Recently he basically realized he had been duped and apologized for his mistake. I can respect that.

But I would respect it more if he hadn't spent YEARS advocating the wrong side, as a doctor, without ever questioning the government party line.

Still he did the right thing and corrected his error best he could.
 
2013-09-17 03:20:46 PM  
Fabulous headline, subby.

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2013-09-17 03:25:28 PM  

SpectroBoy: Strik3r: SpectroBoy: Sanjay Gupta

He must have had a change of heart at some point. He seems to be advocating for it somewhat now....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tShnVEmdS2o

Yes. Recently he basically realized he had been duped and apologized for his mistake. I can respect that.

But I would respect it more if he hadn't spent YEARS advocating the wrong side, as a doctor, without ever questioning the government party line.

Still he did the right thing and corrected his error best he could.


IMO dude is a shill bought and paid for, there's no farking way that he was "duped", he knew pot was helping people he just chose to make money telling lies, now he's got a doc out and is shilling for that.
 
2013-09-17 03:26:39 PM  

liam76: mediablitz: ZAZ: Karen Strand didn't think she'd get in trouble for having a small container of medical marijuana when she went hiking in Olympic National Park this summer. But a ranger pulled her over on a remote gravel road, and Strand wound up as one of at least 27,700 people cited for having pot on federal land since 2009, according to an Associated Press analysis of federal court data.

Is this a common pothead misconception? A friend of mine acted like Colorado legal = OK to smoke openly on federal land. Luckily no rangers were around.

Wonder how long that stupid word is going to stick around. I guess it makes it easier for you to overlook the fact that the federal government is wasting its time and money busting someone for having a joint?

Do you drink at all? Does that make you an alcoholic? No? Then why is ANYONE who smokes marijuana immediately a "pothead" in your book?

Using the word pothead for people who can't be assed out to figure out laws that are pretty clear has nothing to with a stance on federal enforcement of said laws.

If somebody needed alcohol so bad they had to bring it to a park where it wasn't allowed then claimed ignorance of laws on alcohol in a park, I hink the alcoholic lable works.


Good to see you going around being a sanctimonious dick and using specious arguments everywhere.
 
2013-09-17 03:27:27 PM  
upload.wikimedia.orgThis land is their land.
 
2013-09-17 03:27:29 PM  

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One of my favorite lines ever.

"You can't like, own nature, man"
"I can, but only because I'm not a penniless hippie!"
 
2013-09-17 03:27:33 PM  
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2013-09-17 03:27:41 PM  
Won't be long before you need a passport to cross into federal land. If the laws are so different there it might as well be another country.
 
2013-09-17 03:28:35 PM  
President Barack Obama, she remembered, had said the federal government had "bigger fish to fry" than people who follow state marijuana laws, and Washington state had just legalized pot.

Anyone who doesn't understand the difference between making something legal and de-prioritizing enforcement needs to be arrested and lose a couple thousand bucks in fines and court costs for being incredibly ignorant of basic civics and/or just straight-up stupid, honestly.

Maybe this will be a wake-up call and stave off her inevitable death from one day crossing the line into too stupid to remember to breathe.

//Who the fark goes to a national park and doesn't know the park service is its own thing without anything else to do most days, anyhow?  They typically have literally one problem at a time, maybe two, it doesn't matter what order the priority list is, you're at the top.

OtherBrotherDarryl: Is it a federal crime when you are cited on U.S. parks for littering or other petty crimes? Do you have to appear in Federal court? Never thought about this before...


According to Wikipedia... yes.  In fact, littering on nationally-funded highways like interstates is also a federal crime, with a different minimum fine and so on (1000$, where that for most state roads is 500$ or so).  You can also get up to 1 year in prison for more extensive waste disposal in a national park.

Teddy Roosevelt was not a man to fark around with, it seems.

//I know your question was already answered in the context of MPs, just pointing out that it works that way in civilian context, too.
 
2013-09-17 03:28:43 PM  
Gee whiz, the Federal government enforcing Federal laws on Federal land. That is unbelievable.

If you are knowingly doing something illegal (and smoking pot anywhere in the US is illegal) you may want to pay attention to these kinds of things.

Plus, "Not a priority" does not mean "Will not be enforced" so don't be blatant and look up the actual policy (as noted in the article, federal land was stated as an exception to that policy).

When you don't do your reasearch and get caught breaking the law, I have little sympathy for you. Even though the law should be changed.
 
2013-09-17 03:29:19 PM  
cgraves67
>>> Rangers are bottom feeders, just above mall cop status.

Not really. They are much braver than most LEOs.

Citation needed

They face armed suspects more than any other LEOs

Citation needed

they often operate outside of radio or cell phone communication, so they can't call in back-up.

Flat out bullshiat.
 
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