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(Fox News)   Good news, everybody. If you get shot in California, at least you won't have to worry about lead poisoning   (foxnews.com) divider line 123
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2013-09-17 12:28:14 PM
Why is this spiffy?
 
2013-09-17 12:32:02 PM

dittybopper: Why is this spiffy?


Dude, have you ever had lead poisoning? It totally sucks. This is going to significantly improve the overall gunshot experience.
 
2013-09-17 12:42:34 PM
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2013-09-17 12:44:20 PM
Hopefully they will let people use tungsten flechette rounds instead of that dirty lead.
 
2013-09-17 12:44:39 PM
Thank goodness the NRA is there to protect gun owners weapons manufacturers from this legislation.
 
2013-09-17 12:45:04 PM
Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?
 
2013-09-17 12:45:56 PM
Gues I'll just have to toss my old ammo in the trash/landfill, and start using depleted uranium munitions - for the health of environment.
 
2013-09-17 12:45:58 PM
So my depleted uranium bullets are still okay?
 
2013-09-17 12:46:08 PM

Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?


Pretty much.  Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas, its the giant amoung of lead generated at ranges that sits and possibly leaks into watersheds, etc.
 
2013-09-17 12:47:00 PM
If there's one thing California should be good at, it's backdoor legislation.
 
2013-09-17 12:47:48 PM
I read the headline in Professor Farnsworth's voice. You did too.
 
2013-09-17 12:47:55 PM
Great.  Now ban the other kinds.

www.theproblemsolversllc.com
 
2013-09-17 12:48:01 PM

Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?


No, because you're an idiot
 
2013-09-17 12:48:05 PM
Friendly to the environment, and useful against werewolves:

www.theelectrumgroup.com
 
2013-09-17 12:48:29 PM

Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?


It's funny that you think food comes from places other than industrial farms/slaughter houses......
 
2013-09-17 12:49:04 PM
I was too young to remember when leaded gasoline was bad.  Were there accusations of socialism thrown at those who opposed brain damage?
 
2013-09-17 12:49:10 PM

Hack Patooey: Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas


Holy fark, I want a frozen banana gun.
 
2013-09-17 12:49:14 PM
Oh goodie! The ultimate ammo tax. Why is it that?

Well, for one thing, steel and bimetallic bullets wreak havoc on the rifling in your barrel. If you're a recreational or competition shooter, you're going to be replacing the barrel on your rifle/pistol pretty frequently due to erosion of the lands and grooves. That gets expensive.

For another, they're more expensive to produce, meaning it costs much, much more to use your firearm for legal purposes.
 
2013-09-17 12:49:33 PM
Necessity being the mother of invention, I'll be happy to use a less-toxic load.  Lead was only used because it was cheap, heavy, and malleable.  Time to work out something else heavy and malleable, even though it's not going to be as cheap.  Or quite as heavy.

A solution will be found.
 
2013-09-17 12:49:40 PM

Rapmaster2000: I was too young to remember when leaded gasoline was banned.  Were there accusations of socialism thrown at those who opposed brain damage?

 
2013-09-17 12:49:44 PM

Hack Patooey: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

Pretty much.  Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas, its the giant amoung of lead generated at ranges that sits and possibly leaks into watersheds, etc.


Every range I know of cleans up the lead (& copper & brass) & recycles it.
 
2013-09-17 12:49:46 PM
Good. I want the government to protect me from lead poisoning when I am eating endangered prehistoric condor bird.

/Did I piss everyone off?
// Am I Farking right?
 
2013-09-17 12:49:55 PM

Hack Patooey: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

Pretty much.  Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas, its the giant amoung of lead generated at ranges that sits and possibly leaks into watersheds, etc.


Don't we get lead from the ground in the first place?
 
2013-09-17 12:50:52 PM

Frantic Freddie: Hack Patooey: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

Pretty much.  Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas, its the giant amoung of lead generated at ranges that sits and possibly leaks into watersheds, etc.

Every range I know of cleans up the lead (& copper & brass) & recycles it.


Well, I know a range that doesn't.  My anecdote wins.
 
2013-09-17 12:51:10 PM
cdn.physorg.comWhy can't we all get along?
 
2013-09-17 12:52:19 PM
Not so fast El Guapo! Or I'll pump you so full of lead you'll be using your d*** for a pencil!


www.alicia-logic.com
 
2013-09-17 12:52:26 PM

chitownmike: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

No, because you're an idiot


If this is about your mom and the midget clown sex tape, I told you, I wasn't involved in the filming.

Now, the distribution on the other hand.
 
2013-09-17 12:52:52 PM

JamesSirBensonMum: Hack Patooey: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

Pretty much.  Its not that it matters if I get shot with lead, steel, or frozen bananas, its the giant amoung of lead generated at ranges that sits and possibly leaks into watersheds, etc.

Don't we get lead from the ground in the first place?


Don't bother.  You're arguing with people who don't understand the issue beyond "Guns BAAAD!!!"
 
2013-09-17 12:53:18 PM

Giltric: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

It's funny that you think food comes from places other than industrial farms/slaughter houses......


It's called fish.
 
2013-09-17 12:53:20 PM
Seems like California has a lot of estrogen in their water supply from all those urinating women on birth control.
 
2013-09-17 12:54:26 PM
"We cut 'em in half with a machine gun, then give 'em a band-aid..."

/sounds appropriate
 
2013-09-17 12:54:51 PM
Does the legislation prohibit all lead ammunition, or just the use of lead ammunition when hunting? The news article implies the latter, but California's recent idiocy regarding firearm legislation would make the former more believable.
 
2013-09-17 12:55:22 PM

tallen702: Oh goodie! The ultimate ammo tax. Why is it that?

Well, for one thing, steel and bimetallic bullets wreak havoc on the rifling in your barrel. If you're a recreational or competition shooter, you're going to be replacing the barrel on your rifle/pistol pretty frequently due to erosion of the lands and grooves. That gets expensive.

For another, they're more expensive to produce, meaning it costs much, much more to use your firearm for legal purposes.


Chris Rock wins again
 
2013-09-17 12:55:59 PM

Joe USer: Giltric: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

It's funny that you think food comes from places other than industrial farms/slaughter houses......

It's called fish.


50% of all fish destined for the table come from industrial fish farms.
 
2013-09-17 12:56:13 PM
Hey subby, they didn't ban lead bullet sales, only use of them for hunting. And since only a statistically insignificant number of hunting trips result in the shooting of a human, it's not going to affect the composition of bullets that kill people very much.
 
2013-09-17 12:56:28 PM

Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?


You failed to show when this has happened and happened enough to need legislation.
 
2013-09-17 12:59:30 PM

Dimensio: Does the legislation prohibit all lead ammunition, or just the use of lead ammunition when hunting? The news article implies the latter, but California's recent idiocy regarding firearm legislation would make the former more believable.


It's an article in the Fox News Politics section. It implies a lot of things -- and even includes a blatant falsehood in the secon paragraph:

The state already has a ban on lead-bullet hunting in eight counties with an endangered condor population. But the new proposal, overwhelmingly approved this month by the Democrat-controlled General Assembly, would impose a statewide ban on all hunting.

That's some good writin' there, Lou.
 
2013-09-17 01:01:15 PM
All the right people are crying, it has to be a good thing.
 
2013-09-17 01:03:19 PM
Frangible Bullets are the new trend.  But seriously, banning lead at outdoor ranges seems like a lot more effective policy.  Hunters might fire less than a dozen rounds on a trip, but will easily drop 100+ rounds at an outdoor range.  And the range rounds are going straight into the dirt, hunting rounds probably go into trees or other hunters, so much less environmental impact there.
 
2013-09-17 01:03:57 PM

Anayalator: Not so fast El Guapo! Or I'll pump you so full of lead you'll be using your d*** for a pencil!


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You killed the invisible swordsman!
 
2013-09-17 01:04:14 PM

stuhayes2010: Joe USer: Hunter goes hunting, shoots bunch of things, misses bunch of things, fragments of lead wind up on plants, which wind up in animals which eventually winds up in food which eventually winds up in people.

We done here?

You failed to show when this has happened and happened enough to need legislation.


Doesn't matter.  Every liberal knows its the seriousness of the charge that matters, not whether or not its true

This holds true whether its Clarence Thomas, Tom DeLay, anthropogenic global warming, or Joe Fark blabbing nonsensical platitudes and hoping the rest of us mindlessly nod our heads in agreement like the rest of their political party would do.
 
2013-09-17 01:04:42 PM
I would almost support this for shotguns. Dozens of people shooting clays every evening for decades at a sportsman's club is bound to accumulate lead in the field. But lead free rifle bullets is ridiculous. To anyone who doesn't know about hunting, it's not like the BuckHunter machine at the bar. If you are lucky, you shoot one bullet a hunt. If you miss, you probably aren't going to get the opportunity for a second shot.

The cost is a pain in the ass, and you need to retrain your form, but I've shot plenty of ducks with steel shot.
 
2013-09-17 01:04:44 PM
Gun nuts are probably not going to like this.
 
2013-09-17 01:08:00 PM
FTFA:  And they point to a 2008 study by the Centers for Disease Control and the North Dakota Department of Public Health that concluded lead is so prevalent in meat harvested through hunting that pregnant women and children should never eat it.


A study that was debunked and withdrawn 4 years ago.

http://www.ctsportsmen.com/cdcDeer08.htm
 
2013-09-17 01:08:05 PM
"if" you get shot????  I gues that' caveat is for farkers who don't live in, or near, LA.
 
2013-09-17 01:08:47 PM
California bans lead bullets for hunting forcing hunters to use solid metal projectiles.

ATF already defines solid metal bullets as "Armor Piercing"

TAH DAH!
 
2013-09-17 01:09:52 PM
Ah, the trolling here is magnificent! Just go the Burt Gummer route and cast your own bullets.
 
2013-09-17 01:10:18 PM
Its been done before.  lead bullets were simply re branded as "target load" and sold for the old price.  Its...its almost like banning things is harder than people realize.  Carry on California, rage against the hurricane if it makes you feel better.
 
2013-09-17 01:11:38 PM
JamesSirBensonMum:  Hunters might fire less than a dozen rounds on a trip, but will easily drop 100+ rounds at an outdoor range.  And the range rounds are going straight into the dirt, hunting rounds probably go into trees or other hunters, so much less environmental impact there.

Most people don't know that almost every commercial outdoor range in the US renews it's berm every couple of years by selling all the old lead filled dirt to companies that specialize in reclaiming the lead from the dirt and re-smelting it, then bringing in new dirt to replace the berm.  Really the only ones that don't are the ones run on state land...  you know, the government.
 
2013-09-17 01:11:41 PM

clancifer: Gun nuts are probably not going to like this.


No, people tend to not like it when you use complete BS to take their freedoms away.
 
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