Weatherkiss: barefoot in the head: Fubini: Those people are insane. You know what else is cruel to animals? Chronic wasting disease and a slow death due to starvation.No. Cruelty implies intent. Without a sentient agent, there can be no intent and no cruelty. This "cruelty" line of argument is just a way to justify the real cruelty of active sport murder, by comparison to non-intervention in natural outcomes.If you think most hunters are out there because they are dependent upon the dead animals for food, you are wrong.If you think sitting back and watching chronic wasting disease and a slow death due to starvation is cruelty, you make an opportunistic connection that does not exist.This misdirection, be it intentional or well-meaning, doesn't confound any insighful person.I don't really care why hunters are out there. Whether they're poor and need it for food, want to do it for fun as a hobby or sport, or want a trophy... it doesn't really matter. Cruelty does imply intent -- in this case I think the word would be 'negligent'. I live in Ohio, and I personally feel we have the responsibility to hunt deer. And by 'we', I mean the humans who choose to hunt.We've eliminated all of their natural predators to the point where their populations go unchecked and invite a variety of direct and indirect problems. More deer mean higher odds of a car hitting one and potentially killing the driver and their passengers, more deer mean more chances of lyme disease. More deer mean more of a problem of rural and suburban gardens and farms being encroached by hungry deer.We are nature's top predator, and I do feel it lies on us to fix the problem we created to begin with -- by continuing to hunt deer where there are no more wolves and bears to do it for us. That is the way nature works in the wild, after all. If a native predator is eliminated entirely, another predator picks up the slack. That's why we have a bunch of obese and lazy tazmanian devils in Australia -- we killed all of ...
Weatherkiss: If I had the choice, I'd cull from the human herd before the deer herd.
FarkinHostile: Nope. This is 100% my opinion. I know it is not popular to some, especially not hunters in general, but it truly how I feel about the subject.
WordyGrrl: My uncle used to hunt deer until he himself got shot with a deer slug (he was a State Trooper, got shot busting some drug lab) and found out that it's not a "quick and painless" thing./That Peta billboard is in poor taste. That's what makes it funny.
walkerhound: WordyGrrl: My uncle used to hunt deer until he himself got shot with a deer slug (he was a State Trooper, got shot busting some drug lab) and found out that it's not a "quick and painless" thing./That Peta billboard is in poor taste. That's what makes it funny.Sounds like the drug dealer had poor shot placement, then.
digitalrain: GeeksAreMyPeeps: I don't think Peta thought this through. This:The billboard offers no explanation for the imagery, but a post on a PETA blog references a hunter who earlier this month nearly died after he accidentally punctured his neck on the antler of an elk he had just killed in Uintah Countysounds like a careless person getting injured. This:[img850.imageshack.us image 636x186]seems like a frightening beast that WILL KILL US ALL. LORD GOD WHERE ARE THE HUNTERS THAT WILL SAVE US?!?I read that in his voice:[4.bp.blogspot.com image 627x350]You must saaaaaave us!
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