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(Talking Points Memo)   Boehner to Obama: Help me help you help me help us destroy your legacy....TOGETHER *bro-hug*   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 131
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2013-09-17 08:26:04 AM
You guys should just stick to your middle right proposals, Obama is totally down with them.  It really is too bad that you poisoned the well, you are in an exceedingly good position to a lot of things you want.
 
2013-09-17 08:32:14 AM
The Clownshoes of the House, ladies and gentlemen

/f*cking buffoon
 
2013-09-17 08:35:46 AM
When you can get your opponent openly pleading for your help in trying to stop your signature legislation, you know you've won.  This is, in effect, Boehner throwing himself at Obama's mercy.

/thumb down
 
2013-09-17 08:35:54 AM
Yeah Obama, why won't you sit down with Boehner and solve the energy crisis and completely rewrite the entire US tax codes? Like you've got anything else going on this afternoon?
 
2013-09-17 08:36:15 AM
Good luck with that, there's every indication that the executive branch pretty much has everything on schedule after the first deadline push, and are implementing the parts already in play pretty competently.
 
2013-09-17 08:40:18 AM
Have you tried crying, John?
Some Presidents are suckers for tears.
 
2013-09-17 08:40:34 AM
By destroying America we can destroy Obama.  It's like a great leader once said, "the ends always justify the means."
 
2013-09-17 08:41:47 AM
We're heading for a shut down, it's the only way Boehner gets to keep his job.
 
2013-09-17 08:43:38 AM
I thought Boehner already backed off the ACA crap and that attack was being driven by the Tea-Party members?
Insert the WTF guy here.
 
2013-09-17 08:45:26 AM

monoski: I thought Boehner already backed off the ACA crap and that attack was being driven by the Tea-Party members?
Insert the WTF guy here.


Boehner is more scared of his own party than what will happen when they try to shut down the government.
 
2013-09-17 08:46:52 AM
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
 
2013-09-17 08:47:45 AM
Has anyone mentioned that Boehner sounds like boner yet?
 
2013-09-17 08:49:53 AM
www.dialbforblog.com

I just wish I had photoshop skills... boner --> Boehner
 
2013-09-17 08:51:43 AM
I predict that Obama's answer will be in some form of "how about no?"
 
2013-09-17 08:53:17 AM
John, if you want to do it right just go to the hospital and start pulling plugs.
 
2013-09-17 08:54:12 AM
Boner is an empty suit.
 
2013-09-17 08:54:17 AM
which is why Republicans will stay focused on growing our economy and expanding opportunity for all Americans.

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2013-09-17 08:55:10 AM
Wants to what now?

*reads article*

Go home Boehner, you're drunk.
 
2013-09-17 08:55:16 AM
It's almost like he already feels Cantor's knife in his back already.
 
2013-09-17 08:55:45 AM

SpectroBoy: [www.dialbforblog.com image 302x357]

I just wish I had photoshop skills... boner --> Boehner


Just put some dots over the o, the oe is ö in an alphabet without umlauts.
 
2013-09-17 08:58:12 AM

theknuckler_33: which is why Republicans will stay focused on growing our economy and expanding opportunity for all Americans.

[cache.ohinternet.com image 562x437]


You'd think even people on lonely south Pacific islands would know that's a lie by now.
 
2013-09-17 09:04:16 AM
"He should work with us to delay his health care law for everyone - just as he's done for big businesses - expand energy production, simplify our tax code, and more. "

at least he's recognizing that Obama has actually done something now.
 
2013-09-17 09:07:04 AM

Twist-42: "He should work with us to delay his health care law for everyone - just as he's done for big businesses - expand energy production, simplify our tax code, and more. "

at least he's recognizing that Obama has actually done something now.


Big Business has worked 'with' Obama and not fought it, kicking and screaming, the entire way.  They've seen that it's a good thing and have been working with his administration to make it work and get over the bumps in the road with as little distress as possible in the business world.

The GOP has fought it every step of the way and have wasted years trying to repeal it.  Why on Earth would Obama want to reward that resistance and defiance with compromise?  Why?  What possible gain could he get from compromise at this point?  He doesn't have to worry about re-election.  He doesn't have to concern himself with anything, really, except getting what he wants accomplished.

So, speak up, John.  Why should he help you?
 
2013-09-17 09:08:32 AM
Oh this is great. Like, really, seriously great. He's got no options left. All those 2010 freshmen are gonna get primaried because of their failure to repeal Obamacare for the 50th time and that's gonna be awesome.
 
2013-09-17 09:10:57 AM

Infernalist: Why on Earth would Obama want to reward that resistance and defiance with compromise?  Why?  What possible gain could he get from compromise at this point?


History indicates that Obama capitulates to the GOP's demands even when there is absolutely nothing to gain from it.  He might as well make the demand.
 
2013-09-17 09:13:25 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Infernalist: Why on Earth would Obama want to reward that resistance and defiance with compromise?  Why?  What possible gain could he get from compromise at this point?

History indicates that Obama capitulates to the GOP's demands even when there is absolutely nothing to gain from it.  He might as well make the demand.


I'll give you that he spent the first 2 years of his first term trying to compromise with the GOP, but what has he done in the last 3 years that gives you the impression that he'd even consider compromising with the GOP?  Especially over Obamacare?
 
2013-09-17 09:14:22 AM
Did...did he just list a bunch of things he thinks Obama did right? "...just as he's done for big businesses - expand energy production, simplify our tax code, and more."

Wow, JB must have given up all pretense of wanting the Tea Party's approval. There's no way you can have their blessing if you admit to agreeing with Obama on anything.
 
2013-09-17 09:20:47 AM
Remember when politicians would work together and compromise to get things done?  I don't really either but it seems like other people remember a time when that happened.  Apparently lawmakers from across the aisle would get together on weekends and BBQ and the wives had clubs together and everyone at least respected each other (mostly).
 
2013-09-17 09:22:53 AM

SoupGuru: Remember when politicians would work together and compromise to get things done?  I don't really either but it seems like other people remember a time when that happened.  Apparently lawmakers from across the aisle would get together on weekends and BBQ and the wives had clubs together and everyone at least respected each other (mostly).


Wasn't so long ago.  It was last seen in the 80s and early 90s before the resurgence of the GOP in Congress.  The rise of men like Newt Gingrich signaled the end of that era of compromise.
 
2013-09-17 09:39:18 AM
Is this some kind of a Jedi mind trick attempt?
So straightforward. "Obamacare is not the funding you're looking for.."
 
2013-09-17 09:44:53 AM

Infernalist: I'll give you that he spent the first 2 years of his first term trying to compromise with the GOP, but what has he done in the last 3 years that gives you the impression that he'd even consider compromising with the GOP?


Just one example.

I really like to think that Obama's not going to move an inch and let the government shut down or even hit the debt ceiling, but we all know he's going to cave way before even the last minute.  Because god forbid people should have to live with the consequences of voting Republican.
 
2013-09-17 09:45:22 AM
How long before the GOP just starts going back to its old tricks...putting out pamphlets for the health care exchange with the wrong URL, making phone calls telling people if they have unpaid debt and try to sign up they'll be arrested. I'm guessing a week.
 
2013-09-17 09:46:23 AM

Infernalist: Boehner is more scared of his own party than what will happen when they try to shut down the government.


He backed Obama's plan to bomb Syria so Boner is on record for argreeing with the President.  Obama got a better solution than bombing leaving Boner in a hard position.  Boner needs to refocus Teabaggers attention away his support for the Obama's policy to something else so he brings up ACA ... again.
 
2013-09-17 09:47:19 AM

Wade_Wilson: Did...did he just list a bunch of things he thinks Obama did right? "...just as he's done for big businesses - expand energy production, simplify our tax code, and more."

Wow, JB must have given up all pretense of wanting the Tea Party's approval. There's no way you can have their blessing if you admit to agreeing with Obama on anything.


No.  He means those are things Obama must do with him.  He's functionally retarded though, so you're forgiven for being unable to parse the straight up lying doublespeak.
 
2013-09-17 09:54:26 AM

give me doughnuts: Have you tried crying, John?
Some Presidents are suckers for tears.


Maybe he'll trying raging instead.
 
2013-09-17 09:54:45 AM

SpectroBoy: [www.dialbforblog.com image 302x357]

I just wish I had photoshop skills... boner --> Boehner


Here you go:
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2013-09-17 10:06:52 AM
It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.
 
2013-09-17 10:13:52 AM

Infernalist: Twist-42: "He should work with us to delay his health care law for everyone - just as he's done for big businesses - expand energy production, simplify our tax code, and more. "

at least he's recognizing that Obama has actually done something now.

Big Business has worked 'with' Obama and not fought it, kicking and screaming, the entire way.  They've seen that it's a good thing and have been working with his administration to make it work and get over the bumps in the road with as little distress as possible in the business world.

The GOP has fought it every step of the way and have wasted years trying to repeal it.  Why on Earth would Obama want to reward that resistance and defiance with compromise?  Why?  What possible gain could he get from compromise at this point?  He doesn't have to worry about re-election.  He doesn't have to concern himself with anything, really, except getting what he wants accomplished.

So, speak up, John.  Why should he help you?


The Republican party promises that if President Obama capitulates on this one issue, that they will stop obstructing everything else in the President's agenda. Really. They will. You can trust them.
 
2013-09-17 10:15:21 AM

InmanRoshi: It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.


Sure, and it followed Obama's speech where he claimed he didn't want to shut down the government. Lots of political rhetoric from both sides once again. We're farked.
 
2013-09-17 10:16:06 AM
The new talking point on the right seems to be that Bush was able to work in a bipartisan manner, unlike Obama. What they don't realize is that this talking point will only work with the the 34% who will always vote Republican anyway. For everyone else, it just points out that Democrats in Congress are sometimes willing to put Country before Party and Republicans are not. Anyone who has been paying any sort of attention knows that Obama has offered up lots of right of center ideas and points. As a matter of fact, a lot of people on the left are furious with Obama for this. But, hey, the right doesn't have many tools left in its belt. Voter suppression and projection seem to be the only things they have left, and they cling to them as if they were guns and religion.
 
2013-09-17 10:20:22 AM

Pinner: Is this some kind of a Jedi mind trick attempt?
So straightforward. "Obamacare is not the funding you're looking for.."


No; this is an attempt at a Vulcan mind trick, in an effort to counteract President Obama's Jedi mind-meld.
 
2013-09-17 10:21:55 AM

pueblonative: How long before the GOP just starts going back to its old tricks...putting out pamphlets for the health care exchange with the wrong URL, making phone calls telling people if they have unpaid debt and try to sign up they'll be arrested. I'm guessing a week.


As opposed to running news stories about how the ACA will bankrupt American families, force people to change their doctors and kill off their grandmothers in death panels?
 
2013-09-17 10:22:42 AM
FTA: House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) accused President Barack Obama of delivering a partisan speech Monday and called on him to help Republicans delay Obamacare.

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"Go home, Mr. Orange. You're making me look good.... and you're drunk again!"
 
2013-09-17 10:25:34 AM
 Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.

Sure, and it followed Obama's speech where he claimed he didn't want to shut down the government. Lots of political rhetoric from both sides once again. We're farked.


False equivalency is false.   Obama doesn't have the power to shut down government, even when you assume he wanted to.    If government shutsdown, there is not "bof sidez r teh same badz".     One side shutdown government, because they fundamentally believe government is the enemy.
 
2013-09-17 10:29:07 AM
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Worst Speaker EVER.
 
2013-09-17 10:32:20 AM

DeaH: The new talking point on the right seems to be that Bush was able to work in a bipartisan manner, unlike Obama. What they don't realize is that this talking point will only work with the the 34% who will always vote Republican anyway. For everyone else, it just points out that Democrats in Congress are sometimes willing to put Country before Party and Republicans are not. Anyone who has been paying any sort of attention knows that Obama has offered up lots of right of center ideas and points. As a matter of fact, a lot of people on the left are furious with Obama for this. But, hey, the right doesn't have many tools left in its belt. Voter suppression and projection seem to be the only things they have left, and they cling to them as if they were guns and religion.


The problem is, lots of people haven't been paying any sort of attention.  And they vote.
 
2013-09-17 10:33:02 AM

InmanRoshi: Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.

Sure, and it followed Obama's speech where he claimed he didn't want to shut down the government. Lots of political rhetoric from both sides once again. We're farked.

False equivalency is false.   Obama doesn't have the power to shut down government, even when you assume he wanted to.    If government shutsdown, there is not "bof sidez r teh same badz".     One side shutdown government, because they fundamentally believe government is the enemy.


You are correct that Obama does not have the power to shut down government. He does have the power to use his position as president and leader of his party to open lines of communication with lawmakers of the opposing party and gain a consensus that inaction will cause harm to the economy. Instead, he has done what has been his pattern and made a partisan appeal to the public, thinking, somehow, that this time it will work. Or thinking the public will blame Republicans if things go bad and that's good enough.
 
2013-09-17 10:38:19 AM

Cletus C.: You are correct that Obama does not have the power to shut down government. He does have the power to use his position as president and leader of his party to open lines of communication with lawmakers of the opposing party and gain a consensus that inaction will cause harm to the economy. Instead, he has done what has been his pattern and made a partisan appeal to the public, thinking, somehow, that this time it will work. Or thinking the public will blame Republicans if things go bad and that's good enough.


He has opened lines of communication time and time again.

He won't, nor shouldn't, negotiate with people terrorists putting a gun to the American economy's temple in an attempt to overturn existing National Law.   Especially since the American people overwhelmingly refuted the candidate who wanted to repeal that law last November.
 
2013-09-17 10:38:53 AM

Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.

Sure, and it followed Obama's speech where he claimed he didn't want to shut down the government. Lots of political rhetoric from both sides once again. We're farked.

False equivalency is false.   Obama doesn't have the power to shut down government, even when you assume he wanted to.    If government shutsdown, there is not "bof sidez r teh same badz".     One side shutdown government, because they fundamentally believe government is the enemy.

You are correct that Obama does not have the power to shut down government. He does have the power to use his position as president and leader of his party to open lines of communication with lawmakers of the opposing party and gain a consensus that inaction will cause harm to the economy.


They understand that it will harm the economy, that's why they want to do it. Consensus has been achieved.

Instead, he has done what has been his pattern and made a partisan appeal to the public, thinking, somehow, that this time it will work. Or thinking the public will blame Republicans if things go bad and that's good enough.

Worked for Clinton.
 
2013-09-17 10:40:04 AM

Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: Cletus C.: InmanRoshi: It's so cute how Boehner wants to pretend that his caucus doesn't want to shut down the government, and that it isn't made up of nihilist clowns and D  students who believe that all government is inherently the enemy.

Sure, and it followed Obama's speech where he claimed he didn't want to shut down the government. Lots of political rhetoric from both sides once again. We're farked.

False equivalency is false.   Obama doesn't have the power to shut down government, even when you assume he wanted to.    If government shutsdown, there is not "bof sidez r teh same badz".     One side shutdown government, because they fundamentally believe government is the enemy.

You are correct that Obama does not have the power to shut down government. He does have the power to use his position as president and leader of his party to open lines of communication with lawmakers of the opposing party and gain a consensus that inaction will cause harm to the economy. Instead, he has done what has been his pattern and made a partisan appeal to the public, thinking, somehow, that this time it will work. Or thinking the public will blame Republicans if things go bad and that's good enough.


You used a lot of words to say "He should compromise because otherwise, the GOP will shut down the government."

That's extortion, not good governance.
 
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