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(Opposing Views)   "He and the boy often played a game where the boy pointed his finger at Grisham and imitated firing a gun. Grisham played along by pointing his actual gun at the boy and pulling the trigger. This time, the gun was loaded"   (opposingviews.com) divider line 165
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2013-09-16 09:13:18 PM
What the hell, Darwin?  You screwed that one up.
 
2013-09-16 09:23:50 PM
If only the 3 year old had had a real gun instead of his finger, this all could have been avoided!
 
2013-09-16 09:54:43 PM
Too soon?
 
2013-09-16 10:03:47 PM
How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?

We don't need licenses for guns to keep them out of the hands of criminals.  We need them to keep guns out of the hands of farking idiots.
 
2013-09-16 10:24:01 PM
Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally intentionally shot him.

this was NOT an accident
this was intentional

STOP USING THAT WORD
 
2013-09-16 10:31:06 PM

Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?

Even if you think a gun is unloaded you are not supposed to point it at a human being and pull the trigger unless you intend to shoot them.  He violated all 3 (or 4, if you use Cooper's) rules for safe firem handling.

namatad: this was NOT an accident
this was intentional


Given the total disregard for safety, there being NO safe way to carry out this "game," I would certainly hope this angle is investigated.
 
2013-09-16 10:35:10 PM
But I've been reliably informed by people right here on Fark that everyone who owns a gun is trustworthy and responsible and would never point a gun at someone unless they were 110% sure it wasn't loaded and could never fire by accident and furthermore comma and suchas.
 
2013-09-16 10:35:55 PM
Another responsible gun owner heard from.

Wait.... I mean isolated incident, move along. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-09-16 10:39:32 PM

Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?


From what I've seen on Fark, you have to be stupid enough to be a government employee of some sort.
 
2013-09-16 10:39:42 PM
The only thing that stops a bad three year old from fingerbanging is a good 3 year old with a gun
 
2013-09-16 10:40:53 PM
ALWAYS assume the gun is loaded. Always.
 
2013-09-16 10:41:38 PM
Will this Grisham trial be held in a courtroom with no AC in the south?
 
2013-09-16 10:41:56 PM
Well, this is sure to be a calm, rational, and well reasoned discussion...
 
2013-09-16 10:41:59 PM

namatad: Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally intentionally shot him.

this was NOT an accident
this was intentional

STOP USING THAT WORD


I agree.  At best this was grossly negligent, but certainly not an accident.
 
2013-09-16 10:43:14 PM
A thousand bucks says mom keeps this jack-hole in her life too.
 
2013-09-16 10:43:37 PM
Is this that Responsible Gun Ownership I hear so much about?
 
2013-09-16 10:44:03 PM
You can have the boy's finger-gun when you pry it from his cold...dead...uh...hmmm
 
2013-09-16 10:44:07 PM

Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?


www.opposingviews.com

That stupid.
 
2013-09-16 10:44:47 PM
Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally shot him.
Grisham played along by pointing his actual gun at the boy and pulling the trigger.


if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, shooting them is not an accident.  i can't believe how often we hear stories like this.  there was just a story last week about some guy who shot his girlfriend because he was trying to show her that the gun wasn't loaded.  how was he showing her?  by pointing it at her and pulling the trigger?  the asshole in this story should have pointed it at himself instead.
 
2013-09-16 10:45:38 PM

Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?

We don't need licenses for guns to keep them out of the hands of criminals.  We need them to keep guns out of the hands of farking idiots.


You never do that period. There is not checking to see if the gun is loaded before pointing it at a 3 year old and pulling the trigger. When there is a 3 year old around it belongs locked up somewhere only you can get to it when needed to protect said 3 year old.

Sad to say I don't think this kid had much of of chance if this was the type of guy mom let around her child.
 
2013-09-16 10:45:38 PM

slapmastered: Well, this is sure to be a calm, rational, and well reasoned discussion...

 
2013-09-16 10:48:08 PM
Ready for a home invasion.
Not ready for a three year old.

Freedumb.
 
2013-09-16 10:48:28 PM
can't find the pic from "the First Badman" where he reloads and fires his finger
 
2013-09-16 10:48:32 PM
I blame Obama - cos he a black African muslin, or something, who like guns.

/I'm doing it wrong, ain't I?
//Brit; never played the pointy/shooty real gun thing at people game before
 
2013-09-16 10:48:50 PM
How farking stupid is it to point a real gun - loaded or not - at anyone?
The very first rule of gun safety drilled in in every class from Junior Hunter's Safety to advanced military and police tactical training is
Treat ALL guns as if they are loaded
 
2013-09-16 10:49:47 PM

hardinparamedic: The only thing that stops a bad three year old from fingerbanging is a good 3 year old with a gun


And a dental dam
 
2013-09-16 10:51:33 PM

enderthexenocide: Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally shot him.
Grisham played along by pointing his actual gun at the boy and pulling the trigger.

if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, shooting them is not an accident.  i can't believe how often we hear stories like this.  there was just a story last week about some guy who shot his girlfriend because he was trying to show her that the gun wasn't loaded.  how was he showing her?  by pointing it at her and pulling the trigger?  the asshole in this story should have pointed it at himself instead.


This. Treat all firearms as if they're loaded. That's the first firearm safety lesson that should be given before someone even looks at a gun.
 
2013-09-16 10:53:22 PM
I bet the toddler was in a hoodie.
 
2013-09-16 10:53:40 PM

enderthexenocide: Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally shot him.
Grisham played along by pointing his actual gun at the boy and pulling the trigger.

if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, shooting them is not an accident.  i can't believe how often we hear stories like this.  there was just a story last week about some guy who shot his girlfriend because he was trying to show her that the gun wasn't loaded.  how was he showing her?  by pointing it at her and pulling the trigger?  the asshole in this story should have pointed it at himself instead.


So - "guns don't kill people"™, assholes (with guns) kill people.
It's just, why there are so many assholes in this country...? (Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole ?)
 
2013-09-16 10:53:40 PM

enderthexenocide: there was just a story last week about some guy who shot his girlfriend because he was trying to show her that the gun wasn't loaded... by pointing it at her and pulling the trigger

the asshole in this story should have pointed it at himself instead.


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2013-09-16 10:55:18 PM

anuran: How farking stupid is it to point a real gun - loaded or not - at anyone?
The very first rule of gun safety drilled in in every class from Junior Hunter's Safety to advanced military and police tactical training is
Treat ALL guns as if they are loaded


Unfortunately having half a brain cell isnt a prerequisite for exercising constitutional rights. It is really too bad the guy didnt shoot himself instead.

/would probably accept more restrictions on our constitutional rights if only would start with mandatory licensing for human breeding...probably another way this tragedy could have been avoided
 
2013-09-16 10:55:29 PM

Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?

We don't need licenses for guns to keep them out of the hands of criminals.  We need them to keep guns out of the hands of farking idiots.


No, how dumb do you have to be to EVER point a gun at someone you don't want to kill or something you don't want to destroy. That is the FIRST lesson you learn in any firearms safety course. It doesn't matter if you think you know it's unloaded or not, you still ALWAYS treat a firearm as if it's loaded because the consequences of being wrong can't be taken back.
 
2013-09-16 10:57:45 PM
Treat ANY gun as if they are ALWAYS loaded, even when they are not.

Have YET to 'accidentally' shoot anyone. One of the first things I was ever taught about handling firearms.
 
2013-09-16 10:58:49 PM
has anyone even considered that this child could have been the next Hitler? Are you suggesting that the world was a better place with Hitler? Jesus, you people are sick.
 
2013-09-16 10:58:57 PM
Is this where I post the "gun is always loaded" stuff because it will educate morons with guns and make me feel superior to others?

/gun collector
 
2013-09-16 11:00:04 PM

robodog: Lsherm: How farking stupid do you have to be to not check and see if a gun is loaded?

We don't need licenses for guns to keep them out of the hands of criminals.  We need them to keep guns out of the hands of farking idiots.

No, how dumb do you have to be to EVER point a gun at someone you don't want to kill or something you don't want to destroy.


So ... we need better laws to keep guns out of the hands of irresponsible/dumb people?


That is the FIRST lesson you learn in any firearms safety course. It doesn't matter if you think you know it's unloaded or not, you still ALWAYS treat a firearm as if it's loaded because the consequences of being wrong can't be taken back.

So ... we need better laws that ensure gun owners take firearms safety courses?

Or do we just need to enforce the laws we have on the books?
 
2013-09-16 11:05:39 PM
Goddammit this is really depressing.
 
2013-09-16 11:10:49 PM
Heh...where are those mouthbreathers who "know the race of the perp before they even click the link"?

I mean, surely their powers of perception work on more than one color...
 
2013-09-16 11:11:13 PM

Gyrfalcon: But I've been reliably informed by people right here on Fark that everyone who owns a gun is trustworthy and responsible and would never point a gun at someone unless they were 110% sure it wasn't loaded and could never fire by accident and furthermore comma and suchas.


no you haven't. stopped trolling.
 
2013-09-16 11:12:07 PM

ultraholland: has anyone even considered that this child could have been the next Hitler? Are you suggesting that the world was a better place with Hitler? Jesus, you people are sick.


I actually heard an asshole Catholic priest named Father Bob, at Corpus Christi Catholic Church, in Destin. FL make this EXACT idiotic remark following the Sandy Hook shootings. I had only gone to make my dear sainted mother happy after not having been back to said church since bully pulpit cocksucker priest called out childhood molestation victims as "stupid" for planning Cardinal Law protests during John Paul II funeral services.

I told my mother I would never set foot in that shiathole again. I had already told said priest he was WRONG about attacking people who were children who were ass-farked by Catholic sex perverts claiming to be priests and "Christ here on Earth". He told me he "may have been too harsh and did not express himself clearly". I told him he was an asshole whose prayers never got any higher than the ceiling of his farked up excuse of a 'church'.

Can't make that kind of farked up shiat up.
 
2013-09-16 11:12:08 PM

Dahnkster: Treat ANY gun as if they are ALWAYS loaded, even when they are not.

Have YET to 'accidentally' shoot anyone. One of the first things I was ever taught about handling firearms.


Everyone here seems to know that. Why can't everyone else?
 
2013-09-16 11:14:22 PM

ultraholland: has anyone even considered that this child could have been the next Hitler? Are you suggesting that the world was a better place with Hitler? Jesus, you people are sick.


Goddamn it I hate you for making me laugh at that.

Seriously.

Kind of.

Bastard.
 
2013-09-16 11:15:28 PM

Gyrfalcon: But I've been reliably informed by people right here on Fark that everyone who owns a gun is trustworthy and responsible and would never point a gun at someone unless they were 110% sure it wasn't loaded and could never fire by accident and furthermore comma and suchas.


[citation needed]
 
2013-09-16 11:18:26 PM
Did I miss the flood of posts reminding us that the first rule of handling firearms is to treat them as if they are always loaded?
 
2013-09-16 11:19:05 PM
This time, he was playing to win.
 
2013-09-16 11:20:21 PM
FTA:   He and the boy often played a game where the boy pointed his finger at Grisham and imitated firing a gun.   So, Mom thought this was an appropriate "game" to play with her son?  Oh, wait; rather than take a stand, she wanted to keep the boyfriend happy.  Got it.

There is no such thing as an unloaded gun - the gun is ALWAYS loaded.

\Brought to you by the Department of Redundancy
\\Gun owner
\\\RIP,  Lance Wilson
 
2013-09-16 11:22:31 PM
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**pew pew pew**


/that's how we played finger guns when I was a kid
//glad I never played with some asshole like this guy
 
2013-09-16 11:24:53 PM

I_Am_Weasel: What the hell, Darwin?  You screwed that one up.


Maybe getting shot in the face when your 3 by your dumbshiat mom's dumbshiat BF is how the heard is thinned. That guy was 3 once, maybe he learned the game from his mom's BF but he spent all his bullet money on mullet sheen.

Look on the bright side, the kid could have been aborted, maybe the 3 years was a bonus given the situation many a fetus may not have survived this trailer park queen.
 
2013-09-16 11:25:09 PM

namatad: Lance Wilson, 3, of Michigan City, Ind., died this weekend after his mother's boyfriend accidentally intentionally shot him.

this was NOT an accident
this was intentional

STOP USING THAT WORD


"ac·ci·dent
ˈaksidənt/nounnoun: accident;plural noun: accidents1.an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury."

The term applies. It doesn't mean he isn't to blame.
 
2013-09-16 11:25:11 PM
I love my guns but, some people are simply too stupid to own any.  Just like there should be a test before you can have a kid, (if you think cavemen rode dinosaurs you should be involuntarily sterilized) there should be more loopholes for acquiring objects which throw hunks of metal around at supersonic speeds.

Humans have stopped evolving and we're overpopulating the planet.  Our medical breakthroughs, ironically, are now holding back our species (short-term) by allowing idiots like this guy to live long enough to procreate (even though it wasn't his kid and nothing indicated that he had done so).  I, for one, welcome the coming zombie apocalypse.
 
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