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(MyWay News)   Federal Law Enforcement Officials say the man accused in a shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard that left at least 12 people dead has been identified as Aaron Alexis, a 34 year-old man from Texas   (apnews.myway.com) divider line 890
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2013-09-16 05:05:46 PM  

hasty ambush: FlashHarry: as soon as i saw his pic, i felt a great disturbance at fox news - as if hundreds of boners stiffened in unison...

While progressives everywhere still suffer from erectile dysfunction


Let's hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American


When did Salon become the left's American Thinker?
 
2013-09-16 05:05:48 PM  
I'm glad they took the time to mention he was a CPL holder. It was clearly an important aspect of the story and in no way is part of a political agenda.
 
2013-09-16 05:06:48 PM  
Because military personnel are some of the most mentally stable people on earf, they should all be walking around with firearms when not in combat theaters.
 
2013-09-16 05:07:19 PM  
So. Let me get this straight. A sailor comes back from spending months sweltering at sea, some of which can get a bit hairy and butt puckering. Comes home to where he thinks he's safe and sound, and faces this shiat?

No no, not cool. This is not the way we treat our military. FFS.

/bro is in shipyard at Norfolk. Haven't heard from him, but not likely he's affected. Hopefully no one he knows got hurt. Serious serious bullshiat.
//will spend the next seven months worrying about him until he's out; Syria was less scary
 
2013-09-16 05:07:43 PM  

win95o: Newsflash: Contrary to the repeated assertions, NSA is a foreign intelligence agency and doesn't actually spy on Americans.


Well, they're not supposed to...
 
2013-09-16 05:07:55 PM  

yeabuddy: another sad day for america. another issue to turn into a left vs right, anti vs pro gun when in reality its just that we as a society are broken. no one benefits.



mediablitz: Right Wing:

He's Black -- YAY!!!
From Texas -- SH*T
Used to live in New York -- YAY!!!
Ex-Military -- SH*T
He's Buddhist -- YAY!!!

 
2013-09-16 05:08:16 PM  

OscarTamerz: [www.washingtonpost.com image 296x375]

Are we still waiting for Obama to announce which relative he would resemble?  I'm going to guess either little brother or cousin.


Why would he do that, in your opinion?
 
2013-09-16 05:08:46 PM  

minoridiot: FTFA:
 He is believed to have a criminal record there and to be a holder of a concealed carry weapon permit.

This should be impossible.  Texas does not issue a CHL to someone with a criminal record.


You are assuming that the permit was issued after the criminal activity occurred.
 
2013-09-16 05:08:55 PM  

hasty ambush: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Over/under on when the right wing derposphere will start claiming the guy is a registered Democrat...?

It is a Fark Progressives greatest dream that one of these incidents will have been  perpetrated by a straight, white,  middle aged, male, tea party/NRA member, Christian, registered GOP, pro-lifer, having something to do with either the coal or oil industry.  Failing that they will settle for a disgruntled  now ex-government employee because of sequestration.

Given that the perp is a black American male and given  that they tend to vote Democrat in the 95% or better range I think the odds are better than average that the perp is a Democrat if he is a member of any political party

What I can't understand is why a Black American male would feel the need to do this seeing how much that demographics  conditions have improved under this administration.


Or maybe people with common sense understands that when someone goes batshiat with a gun, politics usually aren't involved.
 
2013-09-16 05:09:10 PM  

Dedmon: EbolaNYC: Why is it that in these military installations no one has a weapon? There's no armed security at all?

WTF man.

Probably because it's a fact that guns cause more deaths from accidents/domestic fights than they do from stopping mass murders. The powers that be decide that it's a bad idea for even highly trained soldiers to have weapons 24/7 strapped to their sides.


And that this just isn't true. No PERSONAL weapons allowed. That's the tricky little "let's blame Clinton" that isn't mentioned.
 
2013-09-16 05:12:09 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Tat'dGreaser: AngryDragon: Here's the best one I could find on short notice.  Yes it's true.

End Clinton-era military base gun ban

Well holy sh*t, I stand corrected

Although that being said, I don't trust 99% of my brothers in arms with personal firearms.

BUT, being in the Reserves we have a lot of police officers. They're legally allowed to carry outside of the gate but can't even bring their weapon on post. I'm in the process of becoming a cop in Maryland, I have to carry all the time so it's going to be a pain when going to drill and coming home.


And that's why the policy is retarded.  People who are qualified to carry should be allowed to carry.
 
2013-09-16 05:12:10 PM  
Knew it! Buddhist!

Religion of peace, my ass!

Buddhist scum.

At least he's the first name in serial killers.
 
2013-09-16 05:12:11 PM  

AngryDragon: Here's the best one I could find on short notice.  Yes it's true.

End Clinton-era military base gun ban


If only we had a pro-gun Republican Congress with a borderline cowboy Texan President for 8 years - I'm sure they would have done something about it.
 
2013-09-16 05:12:31 PM  
Can't it be someone from the pinko states for once?
 
2013-09-16 05:12:46 PM  

OhioKnight: Knew it! Buddhist!

Religion of peace, my ass!

Buddhist scum.

At least he's the first name in serial killers.


they've been mass murdering in burma for a while now.
 
2013-09-16 05:13:01 PM  

valar_morghulis: At least this mass-shooter isn't white.


Or white-Hispanic.
 
2013-09-16 05:13:04 PM  
Plus, like it takes so long to turn those big giant barrels.
 
2013-09-16 05:13:06 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Per Gawker: "A former friend described Alexis as a devout Buddhist. "

This will disappoint many people.


I'll say it again...

Born Baptist -> (Confused about faith) -> 'Devout' Buddhist -> ?????

He converted once, who's to say he didn't convert again?

I'd find it hard to believe someone who identifies as being a "Devout Buddhist" would go on a shooting spree. It's more likely he was experimenting "spiritually" as so many dumbasses do and settled on a more fundamental form of Islam.

A lot of the American islamist "Jihadis" we've seen in the last couple of decades were converts. These are usually people who are a bit unhinged, unable to find grounding in any particular faith because they don't seem to sync with the voices in their heads... until they hook up with the islamist message (NOTE: I'm not saying "Islam" - but "islamist"  - that fundamental, militant brand of Islam), where they focus on the message of the jihad that meshes all too well with those voices in their heads.

It's the same sort of person that gravitates to a place like the Westboro Baptist Church (although the people running that church are just using the idiots who join).

Beware of anybody who "converts" to another religion. They cast off one superstition to take up another - you simply can't trust a person like that to be rational.
 
2013-09-16 05:13:08 PM  

Haoie: Can't it be someone from the pinko states for once?


How?  Don't gun bans work?
 
2013-09-16 05:13:26 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: OscarTamerz: Thank heavens all the dead victims didn't have guns.

At least TWO of the victims were armed, genius.


Yup, and the fact that he was able to rearm using the weapons there may have allowed him to kill more. He was finally taken down by a team that arrived from outside. Does not look like the people with guns on site slowed him down much.
 
2013-09-16 05:13:28 PM  

EbolaNYC: Why is it that in these military installations no one has a weapon? There's no armed security at all?

WTF man.


Only the guys at the front gate are armed. Not a very good plan.
 
2013-09-16 05:15:07 PM  

AngryDragon: Felgraf: AngryDragon: And this shows how effective this policy is. It makes no sense that probably THE most trained force on the planet regarding firearms is not allowed to carry them. It's a political decision not a common sense one.

You know this because how?

You can't imagine non-political reasons they might like to know where every weapon on base is?

Because it was one of the first things Bill Clinton did when he assumed the Presidency, disarm soldiers on military bases.  Completely political.  It was never a problem before then.


And come to think of it, why didn't President Bush rescind this? He had the power to do so for 8 years. Even had homeland security on his side. Why is this Obama's fault?

This is disingenuous. If it's a problem and should have been fixed, it should have been fixed before Obama was even in office. The GOP had a chance to correct this horrible oversight.
 
2013-09-16 05:15:59 PM  
I visit MCAS Miramar and NAS North Island quite frequently, and both have armed guards at the gates.  Once you're inside, it's a bunch of people working - they are not armed and expecting a war to come to them inasmuch as you would be a teller at a bank expecting the next person to walk through the door to rob you so you have your hand on your 9mm with every account transaction.
If, however,  someone tries this shiat up at Pendleton at the gunnery range, then the guy wouldn't have killed 12.   Perspective, people...
 
2013-09-16 05:16:06 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: Although that being said, I don't trust 99% of my brothers in arms with personal firearms.


This is the hilarious mischaracterization of this ban.  They make is sound nobody ever had to secure their firearms on base before Clinton.  However, the ban that went into effect was for personal firearms.  As far as I'm aware this had nothing to do with the securing of issued weapons on base, which is nothing new.
 
2013-09-16 05:16:30 PM  
According to Buddha, all life is suffering and this is all just an illusion. So dont panic or cry or get angry. Remember we are all one, Alexis and you are the same. Alexis Texas, too for that matter.
 
2013-09-16 05:16:40 PM  

LarryDan43: Infernalist: Remember now, the problem isn't the prevalence of guns in society and ease with which anyone can get them.

The problem is there aren't enough guns out there yet.

/nra

This is not the time to talk about gun control!


Sure it is!  Because a bomb would have been much better!

/crazy gonna cray
//killers gonna kill
 
2013-09-16 05:16:40 PM  

doyner: Finally evacuated from building 201, being bussed to Nationals stadium...


Yikes.  I bet the beers there are expensive.
 
2013-09-16 05:16:57 PM  

badhatharry: Only the guys at the front gate are armed. Not a very good plan.


This point has already been made but most people in the military aren't trained in dealing with situations such as what happened today. Having a bunch of people walking around with weapons in case of a situation like this who aren't trained to deal with it could easily lead to it being worse.
 
2013-09-16 05:17:20 PM  

AngryDragon: shower_in_my_socks: One man killed 12 people, just as the authors of the 2nd Amt intended. I eagerly await news of which well regulated militia he was member of so we can get to the bottom of this. The rest of the world thinks our gun laws and gun culture are crazy, and they are farking right.

Ironic that they don't let soldiers carry sidearms on a military installation isn't it?  The ultimate expression of a gun-free zone.


A. It's a Navy base; very few soldiers there. B. Military people aren't cops. They use guns as weapons of war. When you're INCONUS, there's not much chance of engaging the enemy. C. There are police on base, and they're armed. Some of them are military.

Soldiers are taught to use weapons in a very aggressive, lethal fashion. A lot of their training involves breaking down the natural reluctance to kill another person. When you let them have guns and ammo and booze, they tend to shoot each other and themselves at a fairly high rate. Seaman Schmuckatelli and GI Joe's guns are locked up in the armory when they're not on armed duty, where they belong.
 
2013-09-16 05:17:22 PM  

Haoie: Can't it be someone from the pinko states for once?


We already had ours recently.

/Clackamas Town Center
 
2013-09-16 05:17:27 PM  

minoridiot: FTFA:
 He is believed to have a criminal record there and to be a holder of a concealed carry weapon permit.

This should be impossible.  Texas does not issue a CHL to someone with a criminal record.


Even if it's a misdemeanor marijuana charge 15 years ago?

If other posts in this thread are right though, he doesn't have a criminal record.
 
2013-09-16 05:17:35 PM  
I just hope nobody hurts the N.R.A.'s feelings in the aftermath of all this. Stuff like this happens, then someone has the temerity to politely suggest the organization might slightly modify some aspect of its goals and /or mission.

Then, as if that's not enough, some folks take it further and try to ram things down N.R.A. members' throats - and what have they done to hurt anybody??

I guess what I'm trying to say is, Won't somebody think of the N.R.A.?
 
2013-09-16 05:18:44 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

RIP LEXIS NEXIS
 
2013-09-16 05:20:07 PM  

PainfulItching: AngryDragon: Felgraf: AngryDragon: And this shows how effective this policy is. It makes no sense that probably THE most trained force on the planet regarding firearms is not allowed to carry them. It's a political decision not a common sense one.

You know this because how?

You can't imagine non-political reasons they might like to know where every weapon on base is?

Because it was one of the first things Bill Clinton did when he assumed the Presidency, disarm soldiers on military bases.  Completely political.  It was never a problem before then.

And come to think of it, why didn't President Bush rescind this? He had the power to do so for 8 years. Even had homeland security on his side. Why is this Obama's fault?

This is disingenuous. If it's a problem and should have been fixed, it should have been fixed before Obama was even in office. The GOP had a chance to correct this horrible oversight.


I never said it was Obama's fault or that GWB wasn't a retard.  I said it should be fixed.
 
2013-09-16 05:20:55 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: minoridiot: FTFA:
 He is believed to have a criminal record there and to be a holder of a concealed carry weapon permit.

This should be impossible.  Texas does not issue a CHL to someone with a criminal record.

This.


He has an arrest record. No charges were ever officially filed for his shooting a gun through his ceiling at his noisy neighbor.
 
2013-09-16 05:21:04 PM  

AngryDragon: Felgraf: AngryDragon: And this shows how effective this policy is. It makes no sense that probably THE most trained force on the planet regarding firearms is not allowed to carry them. It's a political decision not a common sense one.

You know this because how?

You can't imagine non-political reasons they might like to know where every weapon on base is?

Because it was one of the first things Bill Clinton did when he assumed the Presidency, disarm soldiers on military bases.  Completely political.  It was never a problem before then.


I call Bullshiate! I was in the Army in 1989 through 1991 and in the Airforce from then on. No body carried guns unless you were going to the range or to maneuvers. Even then ammunition was tightly controlled.
 
2013-09-16 05:21:17 PM  

PainfulItching: If it's a problem and should have been fixed, it should have been fixed before Obama was even in office. The GOP had a chance to correct this horrible oversight.


That's the key thing there. It isn't really. It would have been reversed in an eyeblink with a smirking "your welcome" at some NRA event from Bush himself if the commanders wanted it to be. But the commanders actually like the idea of only trained MPs carrying weapons on their stateside bases. The military knows how to handle a bunch of kids taught aggression and rationally evaluate body counts, and they think the results of limiting the carrying of personal weapons on base have been just fine, so they're keeping it.
 
2013-09-16 05:21:34 PM  

strykerman: yet another mass shooting in a "gun free" zone, in one of two major cities that had outright gun bans that the supreme court ruled thoroughly unconstitutional.  kudos to people who told us when guns are illegal, incidents like this wont happen...


So, say everyone was armed. Do you really think the people carrying this out would have only used guns? fark, you people are myopic.
 
2013-09-16 05:21:41 PM  
So, this rarely happens so let's not change gun laws but have everyone carry and every electrician's mate at a military installation should be armed. Is that right?
 
2013-09-16 05:21:43 PM  
Not Happy enough, working part-time, on White Settlement Road, I guess...

media.dfw.com

/hot as 5mg Haldol IM
 
2013-09-16 05:22:27 PM  

cretinbob: thyblackman.com

//where's your Zimmerman now?


How did Zimmerman make the World Trade Center towers come back?
 
2013-09-16 05:22:31 PM  
Fleet logistics support sqiadron 46
 
2013-09-16 05:22:39 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: AngryDragon: Felgraf: AngryDragon: And this shows how effective this policy is. It makes no sense that probably THE most trained force on the planet regarding firearms is not allowed to carry them. It's a political decision not a common sense one.

You know this because how?

You can't imagine non-political reasons they might like to know where every weapon on base is?

Because it was one of the first things Bill Clinton did when he assumed the Presidency, disarm soldiers on military bases.  Completely political.  It was never a problem before then.

I call Bullshiate! I was in the Army in 1989 through 1991 and in the Airforce from then on. No body carried guns unless you were going to the range or to maneuvers. Even then ammunition was tightly controlled.


See above.  I'm not making it up.
 
2013-09-16 05:22:51 PM  

Kuroshin: LarryDan43: Infernalist: Remember now, the problem isn't the prevalence of guns in society and ease with which anyone can get them.

The problem is there aren't enough guns out there yet.

/nra

This is not the time to talk about gun control!

Sure it is!  Because a bomb would have been much better!

/crazy gonna cray
//killers gonna kill


///makes it much easier to do with a tool whose sole purpose is designed to kill and is easily accessible to anyone in this country.
 
2013-09-16 05:23:06 PM  

mediablitz: Dedmon: EbolaNYC: Why is it that in these military installations no one has a weapon? There's no armed security at all?

WTF man.

Probably because it's a fact that guns cause more deaths from accidents/domestic fights than they do from stopping mass murders. The powers that be decide that it's a bad idea for even highly trained soldiers to have weapons 24/7 strapped to their sides.

And that this just isn't true. No PERSONAL weapons allowed. That's the tricky little "let's blame Clinton" that isn't mentioned.


Alright...they can't have a personal weapon strapped to their side...why? Because the powers that be decide that more people die from accidents and domestic arguments than from mass shootings.

And where exactly does Bill Clinton fit into this at all? And do you think the armory is open to any and all soldier who wants to carry a service weapon on base? It's not, the MPs will have theirs, while on duty, but even that gets checked in at end of the shift.
 
2013-09-16 05:24:21 PM  

Isitoveryet: Obscene_CNN: Oops, look at that he is from New York now!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/16/active-shooter-at-washington-na vy -yard/

Texas in the headline, NY in the first paragraph.

you can't explain that!


Grew up in NY.
Most recently lived in TX.

/reading comprehension, how does it work?
 
2013-09-16 05:24:35 PM  
This is just what we need to get our focus off of Syria.

Thanks,
Obama
 
2013-09-16 05:25:08 PM  

Dedmon: mediablitz: Dedmon: EbolaNYC: Why is it that in these military installations no one has a weapon? There's no armed security at all?

WTF man.

Probably because it's a fact that guns cause more deaths from accidents/domestic fights than they do from stopping mass murders. The powers that be decide that it's a bad idea for even highly trained soldiers to have weapons 24/7 strapped to their sides.

And that this just isn't true. No PERSONAL weapons allowed. That's the tricky little "let's blame Clinton" that isn't mentioned.

Alright...they can't have a personal weapon strapped to their side...why? Because the powers that be decide that more people die from accidents and domestic arguments than from mass shootings.

And where exactly does Bill Clinton fit into this at all? And do you think the armory is open to any and all soldier who wants to carry a service weapon on base? It's not, the MPs will have theirs, while on duty, but even that gets checked in at end of the shift.


Among President Clinton's first acts upon taking office in 1993 was to disarm U.S. soldiers on military bases. In March 1993, the Army imposed regulations forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms and making it almost impossible for commanders to issue firearms to soldiers in the U.S. for personal protection. For the most part, only military police regularly carry firearms on base, and their presence is stretched thin by high demand for MPs in war zones.
 
2013-09-16 05:25:49 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: hundreddollarman: Atomic Spunk: [i1260.photobucket.com image 428x594]

RIP Alexis Texas

I got to meet her earlier this year. Got to grab DAT ASS.

/CSB.

O_O????  This won't get me anywhere, but the power of the FWC and/or maple vodak compels you to explain yourself!!  :D


She was the headline performer at a strip club in the SF Bay Area back in February. I rounded up some buds and we went. After her feature performance, we got to meet her in the VIP room. She was offering signed merch and you could take a Polaroid with her for $20. Got my photo snapped with my hand on DAT ASS. Best $20 spent ever.
 
2013-09-16 05:25:56 PM  
A black Buddhist from Texas?  I don't think anyone had THAT on their mass shooting Bingo card.
 
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