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(ABC News)   President Obama:"I cannot remember a time when one party promises economic chaos if it can't get 100% of what it wants." Really? Is it traumatic memory suppression of the Republicans in the 2011 debt-ceiling disaster or early onset Alzheimer's?   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2013-09-16 02:45:42 PM  
7 votes:

FlashHarry: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

irrelevant. you don't negotiate with terrorists.


The difference is that terrorists might actually release hostages if you negotiate. The Republicans in the House would just shoot them, take more, and escalate demands.
2013-09-16 01:49:05 PM  
6 votes:
Neither: It's subby's fail in reading comprehension since the President refers to exactly that.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-16 03:18:49 PM  
5 votes:

eraser8: I'd like to see your math on that.

But, I'm not holding my breath.


It wouldn't matter.  Republicans love waste fraud and abuse.  They were the ones who came up with the no-bid contracts for defense contractors.
2013-09-16 03:28:44 PM  
4 votes:
The President doesn't pass laws - the Congress does.  The President runs the agencies that carry out the appropriations authorized by Congress.  It is illegal for the President to tell his agencies not to spend money they are required by law to spend.  It is therefore illegal for the President not to tell the head of the Treasury to issue bonds as needed to pay for over-spending by Congress.  The "debt-ceiling" is bullshiat, and no sane person would see it any other way.  It's up to Congress to pass a budget that works and be happy with it.  It's not up to Congress to pass a budget that requires spending X and then not let the President actually spend X.
2013-09-16 03:14:43 PM  
4 votes:
The Republicans in the House of Representatives are hell-bent on crippling the economic recovery of the United States in the name of political partisanship. If Michelle Bachmann's called for investigation of un-American activities in Congress were to take place today an impartial judge would discover that most of the members of Bachmann's own party are guilty.
2013-09-16 03:02:25 PM  
4 votes:

Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.


First, repealing Obamacare would bust the budget.

Second, taxes are already at an historic low for the modern era.  If you want lower taxes, you're going to have to basically eliminate the Defense Department.  Or, you're going to have to dismantle Medicare and Social Security.  Are Republicans willing to campaign to do either?

Everyone wants to end government waste fraud and abuse.

What the hell does "secure the border" mean or entail?  Be specific.

Telling people who they can marry and what they can do with their bodies doesn't promote freedom...unless your version of freedom is "freedom for me but not for thee."
2013-09-17 01:29:35 AM  
3 votes:

bmongar: eraser8: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?

Gay Blowjobs in restrooms
Repeal of all amendments after 10 except the 2nd
Repeal of child labor laws.
End of Social security
End of Medicare
End of Medicaid
Corporate Liability Caps
0% Corporate tax
End of minimum wage.

a few more things


1) Ban birth control. Ban abortion. Abstinence-only edumakashun.  Defund Planned Parenthood.
2) Wonder why so many out of wedlock births.
3) Abolish food stamps. That'll larn them Welfare Queens. (The Welfare Queens with the babies, of course, not the ones with the zillion-dollar contracts with the Small Government®.)
4) Ship all the well-paying jobs overseas.
5) Gut the public schools. You don't need no edumakashun to work a McJob, and teachers are Union Thugs (except when the NRA wants to arm them).
6) Hike taxes on people who work for a living. Cut them on the plutocrats. Abolish the minimum wage. David Koch's Mercedes is six months old and he wants a new one.
7) Wonder why so many people break the law instead of starving quietly, or getting a McJob for take-home pay that won't take them home.
8) zOMG CRIME WAVE!
9) Zillion-dollar Small Government® contracts for private prisons and purveyors of riot gear.
10) No ??? here, baby.
11) Profit!
2013-09-16 08:38:06 PM  
3 votes:
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY.

It is a financial venture for people who want to make an obscene amount of money through short-term exploitation, at the cost of long-term consequences they know they will not live to see.

They DO NOT believe what they say.
They DO NOT have loyalty to a party.
They DO NOT hate what you hate.

They speak and act in any way that they think you want to them to, in order to gather your support and donations, and make obscene profits, and then move on in 5 years.

This requires a complete lack of empathy, and the willingness to screw not only you, me, and everyone else; they must be perfectly happy to screw GENERATIONS of people.  You, your children, your grandchildren, and at least SEVEN generations of Americans will suffer the effects of their actions.  And they don't care.  they don't.  They really don't.  They sleep comfortably, warm, and sound.  They truly DO NOT feel bad about what they have done, and are doing.  They grin when they think how they'll be dead long before all the bad things happen to everyone, everywhere.  They are sociopaths.  They truly believe they are LIFE'S WINNERS.

After all... they got rich.
2013-09-16 03:47:31 PM  
3 votes:
Remember folks.

Estimated 1 trillion over ten years helping people in our own country afford insurance is bad (Obamacare).

Estimated 6 trillion over ten years bombing the sand dunes into smaller sand dunes (military budget over ten years assuming spending levels stay the same), a prudent expenditure of money.
2013-09-16 03:32:20 PM  
3 votes:
eraser8: What is it you think Republicans want?

The same question was asked of Republicans before by these guys.

1-media-cdn.foolz.us
2013-09-16 03:22:55 PM  
3 votes:

Mi-5: Aristocles: ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash.

Please be specific about this request and specifically define it.  Because the general term "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" is so vague that it is void for its vagueness.

I'm curious to know what you mean, other than "end government waste"


'paying for things i don't like'.
2013-09-16 03:01:00 PM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.


You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.
2013-09-16 02:59:57 PM  
3 votes:

Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.


Deregulate the economy, ban abortion, deny minorities the vote, start a trade war, and make baptism mandatory.
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-09-16 02:46:30 PM  
3 votes:
The Republican party has become a group of economic terrorists who are attempting to hold our financial health hostage unless they can subvert what remains of the public wealth over to the richest components of society.

They need to be treated as such.

There have been cases where Republican senators have advocated collapsing the economy to get a re-write of the US constitution and it's waved off as crazy GOP talk.  At what point do we begin to treat them as a national threat?
2013-09-16 04:40:37 PM  
2 votes:
President Obama:"I cannot remember a time when one party promises economic chaos if it can't get 100% of what it wants."

Well then maybe you should reconsider your, "Send me a bill that funds all of government except Obamacare and I'll veto it and shut down DC" stance.

i40.tinypic.com
2013-09-16 03:56:14 PM  
2 votes:
That $6.2T is bullsh*t.

Sessions asked the GAO to model a scenario in which all ACA's cost control mechanisms are phased out while maintaining the rest of the law.

Surprise, that would increase the deficit. The law, as it is written, would reduce it.
2013-09-16 03:49:48 PM  
2 votes:

eraser8: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?


They've been very open and honest about it for awhile now:
"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president. "
-Mitch McConnell
2013-09-16 03:38:33 PM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.

Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.


Where is the math showing this to be possible? Please provide a list of all the line items you will cut to bring the governments operating budget into the balance.

We will wait patiently as you crunch the numbers.
2013-09-16 03:23:32 PM  
2 votes:

Mi-5: I'm curious to know what you mean, other than "end government waste"


He means whatever will get him the most responses from farkers.
2013-09-16 03:14:23 PM  
2 votes:

MyRandomName: What have the democrats offered up in compromise again?


There's nothing to offer. Raising the debt limit isn't a favor.
2013-09-16 03:12:50 PM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: Secure the the border refers to the national border with Mexico.


And, what does that entail?  How much will it cost?  How will you pay for it (please don't be stupid and say eliminating fraud, waste and abuse will do the trick...since it's an obvious lie)? Keep in mind the border is nearly 2,000 miles long.

And, what about the border with Canada?  Why aren't you interested in securing that one?

Aristocles: Republicans don't want to arrange marriages


I didn't claim Republicans wanted to arrange marriages.  What you've attempted is called a straw man argument.  I said Republicans want to tell people who they can marry and what they can do with their bodies.  And, that's the truth.  How do you reconcile that anti-freedom impulse with your "promote freedom" claptrap?
2013-09-16 03:08:45 PM  
2 votes:

sprawl15: lockers: I think he is using this more as a rhetorical device. He can't have possibly forgot they did this exact same shiat to Clinton. Does anyone remember a case before this by either party?

The Democrats seceded from the Union because the Republicans wanted to prevent slavery from spreading to new territories.


i.imgur.com
2013-09-16 03:07:05 PM  
2 votes:

Aristocles: No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash.


You're such a bullshiat troll that even your bullshiat is bullshiat.
2013-09-16 03:06:25 PM  
2 votes:
Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to be the cause of government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy corporate lordship.

FTFY
/They're actually just fine with that waste, fraud, and abuse so long as they're the ones doing the wasting, abusing and defrauding.
2013-09-16 02:48:34 PM  
2 votes:

eraser8: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?


Gay Blowjobs in restrooms
Repeal of all amendments after 10
Repeal of child labor laws.
End of Social security
End of Medicare
End of Medicaid
Corporate Liability Caps
0% Corporate tax
End of minimum wage.

a few more things
2013-09-16 02:44:36 PM  
2 votes:

FlyingLizardOfDoom: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

Less than zero


What percentage of what the Republicans "want" is based on what they know Obama doesn't want?
2013-09-16 02:42:47 PM  
2 votes:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


irrelevant. you don't negotiate with terrorists.
2013-09-16 07:33:42 PM  
1 vote:

theknuckler_33: derp


so your response to a fact is "derp"
Is this the extent of your knowledge of reality?
2013-09-16 06:33:16 PM  
1 vote:
I've been hearing the country is broke since Carter was in the big chair.  Then Ronnie came along and spent like there was no tomorrow and I really haven't listened to anyone telling me we're broke since.

But sure, panic if you feel the need.
2013-09-16 06:17:59 PM  
1 vote:
Sad seeing all y'all dash your collective heads against the rocks like this. Are you hoping it will suddenly stop being all troll-y and actually communicate? Not gonna happen.
2013-09-16 06:12:59 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.


No, they don't. If Obama is for it, the GOP is against it. They are a bunch of whiny little brats that can't get their way.

Let's break it down: -The ACA was a Republican idea, but now they are against it because Obama is for it
-Taxes are at the lowest in a very long time. If you don't think so, look at what you pay now and what you paid in the past.
-If the GOP was serious about government waste, you can cut out a lot of the budget for defense. There are quite a few tanks and planes that were built that the military directly said they do not need.
- Please explain fraud and abuse. The *only* voter registration fraud was done by Republicans. Food Stamps don't count
-  Obama deported more illegals than Bush did in his entire term.
- Not sure how Obama is restricting freedom. I seem to recall the only ones wanting to remove freedoms are the Republicans.
2013-09-16 05:49:43 PM  
1 vote:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: udhq: Republicans just need to accept that we can't have both tax cuts and balanced budgets, the math just doesn't add up.

The lost decade that followed the Bush tax cuts proved that once and for all.

But Reagan proved that deficits don't matter (unless a Democrat is in the White House)!


Sadly I have had debates with people who ahve used that argument.  One even claimed that Reagans deficits helped win the Cold War.
2013-09-16 05:39:27 PM  
1 vote:

OnlyM3: And by "getting 100% of what it wants" he means if they don't take 100% of the bullshiat I'm selling.

Rino's have caved on 99%.


when you threaten to destroy the US economy if your political demands aren't met, you are a terrorist. we do not negotiate with terrorists, be they al qaeda or GOP. so your point is moot.
2013-09-16 05:12:19 PM  
1 vote:

Heliovdrake: Zeno-25: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not up for negotiation.

Oh But it is.

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i.imgur.com
2013-09-16 05:10:07 PM  
1 vote:

Zeno-25: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

The full faith and credit of the United States of America is not up for negotiation.


Oh But it is.

www.wwrl1600.com
2013-09-16 05:06:07 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


That is why Obama has never really negotiated with the Republicans. Sure he's offered up lots of things. But the very instance that words leave Obama's mouth, whatever he's offered has become disgusting, an insult really, There have even been times when the mere rumor that Obama is about to offer something is enough to make the offer dead to Republicans.
2013-09-16 04:50:55 PM  
1 vote:

udhq: Republicans just need to accept that we can't have both tax cuts and balanced budgets, the math just doesn't add up.

The lost decade that followed the Bush tax cuts proved that once and for all.


You wish. Math didn't convince them -- when makes you think empirical evidence will?
2013-09-16 04:43:12 PM  
1 vote:
Republicans just need to accept that we can't have both tax cuts and balanced budgets, the math just doesn't add up.

The lost decade that followed the Bush tax cuts proved that once and for all.
2013-09-16 04:40:25 PM  
1 vote:
The President is getting closer and closer to saying what we all know is true:

"You're doing this because I'm black, right?"
2013-09-16 03:47:08 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.

Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.

Where is the math showing this to be possible? Please provide a list of all the line items you will cut to bring the governments operating budget into the balance.

We will wait patiently as you crunch the numbers.

I've already mentioned that Obamacare is going to cost trillions to the taxpayer, so, there's that.

/Please stop being deliberately obtuse.


I don't see a bottom line with a zero on it. Please show your math.
2013-09-16 03:47:05 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.


The deficit has been and is continuing to be reduced without a single budget being passed through the whole Congress and signed by the President. Government spending is not out of control.
2013-09-16 03:46:39 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


Well, seeing as how anything that's been offered to them hasn't met their exact temper tantrum driven list of DEMANDS, I'mma go with exactly a big ole zero, zip, zilch, nada, goose egg, hamster wheel there big buddy.

But you knew that.

Silly troll.  Facts are for grown ups.
2013-09-16 03:46:36 PM  
1 vote:
Republicans give a rat's f*ck about America only when they're in charge.  and they don't really care about it then either. America is their casino and they love to gamble with other people's money.


they do care about the dollars, though.
2013-09-16 03:46:07 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.

Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.

Where is the math showing this to be possible? Please provide a list of all the line items you will cut to bring the governments operating budget into the balance.

We will wait patiently as you crunch the numbers.

I've already mentioned that Obamacare is going to cost trillions to the taxpayer, so, there's that.

/Please stop being deliberately obtuse.


Uh no it isn't. Please find another lie to troll with.
2013-09-16 03:35:15 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.

Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.


Aren't you ever bothered by the fact that you're a liar and a coward?
2013-09-16 03:33:51 PM  
1 vote:

max_pooper: Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.


Part of the whole "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" thing entails doing away with superfluous government programs, and cutting the funding to others. There's no reason we have to dig ourselves further into debt because gov't spending is out of control.
2013-09-16 03:33:39 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


The question of whether the parties got what they wanted was decided during passage of the continuing resolution and has nothing to do with the debt limit.  The most recent continuing resolution (HR-133) passed with 199 Republican votes in the House.  So, I would argue that since a majority of House Republicans have already approved of the spending, that they should likewise approve of the borrowing necessary to execute that spending.
2013-09-16 03:26:35 PM  
1 vote:

Pinner: It's almost over. The GOP only has a little while longer to try and defund the ACA.

I am curious what they will do when they fail.


Will they take credit for it eight years form now, or will they simply line and claim that they succeeded in overturning Obamacare, knowing that their base won't recognize the actual ACA's benefits for what they are?
2013-09-16 03:24:39 PM  
1 vote:
I cant wait for the 2014 republican beatdown. Obamacare will be working and Democrats will probably have legal weed propositions on the ballot in several states. The Feds aren't going to challenge CO and WA, so why wouldn't they? They'll use it to GOTV just like Rove did with gay marriage in the 2004 election. That's what I'd do at least. Should be interesting.
2013-09-16 03:24:26 PM  
1 vote:

eraser8: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?


Actually they are pretty clear about it this time. Last time their demands were some pretty incoherent ramblings about balanced budget amendments and the unworkable Ryan Budget plan. This time it's "Defund the ACA." It's true you can't meet them halfway by, say, reducing funding for the ACA but at least this time it's an actual coherent demand.
2013-09-16 03:23:33 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: max_pooper: Aristocles: Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.

You mean like freedom to marry whoever you want? I haven't seen any evidence they want that freedom but that is the case fine, Obama agrees to legalize universal gay marriage and Republicans agree to raise the debt ceiling. Sounds like a fair compromise.

No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.


I see your ignorance is not limited to politcs. Math is something else you have very limited knowledge of.
2013-09-16 03:22:45 PM  
1 vote:
So...what happens if O'Bamster announces he's against....aw never mind I can't do it.

/Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet
//someone else do it, I'm too damn bored
2013-09-16 03:21:17 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash.


Please be specific about this request and specifically define it.  Because the general term "ending waste, fraud, and abuse" is so vague that it is void for its vagueness.

I'm curious to know what you mean, other than "end government waste"
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-16 03:20:45 PM  
1 vote:

eraser8: If wage slavery gets the job done, chattel slavery is unnecessary.


it's better because you don't have to feed them when you don't need them.
2013-09-16 03:17:08 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: eraser8: Aristocles: No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.

I'd like to see your math on that.

But, I'm not holding my breath.

It depends on how much BOB wants to raise the limit, but Obamacare is estimated to cost several trillions of dollars.


Who or what is BOB?

Also, Obamacare is estimated to decrease the deficit:  CBO: Repealing Obama healthcare law will increase budget deficit
2013-09-16 03:15:38 PM  
1 vote:
His remarks have hinted at a potential constitutional confrontation with Republicans. Section 4 of the 14th Amendment says that "the validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

This would be awesome to witness.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-16 03:12:49 PM  
1 vote:

sprawl15: lockers: I think he is using this more as a rhetorical device. He can't have possibly forgot they did this exact same shiat to Clinton. Does anyone remember a case before this by either party?

The Democrats seceded from the Union because the Republicans wanted to prevent slavery from spreading to new territories.


Yes, then they seceded from the Democratic party and took over the Republican party when the Democrats passed the civil rights bill.
2013-09-16 03:07:20 PM  
1 vote:

Aristocles: No need, ending government waste, fraud and abuse provide the needed cash. Plus, Obamacare won't be a burthen any longer.


I'd like to see your math on that.

But, I'm not holding my breath.
2013-09-16 03:07:15 PM  
1 vote:
2013-09-16 03:07:11 PM  
1 vote:
Freedom=money for the rich.  Stop over-thinking this with "fundamental principles" or other liberal claptrap.
2013-09-16 03:06:20 PM  
1 vote:
sprawl15:
I heard Mitt Romney doesn't have anything planned for the near future.

could be some lucrative options in being a Bruce Campbell impersonator.
2013-09-16 03:02:42 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


Wasn't it Boehner that said they got 94% of what they wanted?There's your answer
2013-09-16 03:00:53 PM  
1 vote:
So,  he's a divider.   Not a uniter.
2013-09-16 02:56:03 PM  
1 vote:
Actually, Republicans don't want much... they simply want to repeal Obamacare, cut taxes, put an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse, secure the border, and promote freedom and democracy.
2013-09-16 02:46:33 PM  
1 vote:

eraser8: serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?

That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?


and how lightening quickly will that desire change once the current administration is in favor of it.
2013-09-16 02:46:18 PM  
1 vote:
It's almost over. The GOP only has a little while longer to try and defund the ACA.
What's next? Will they bark at Planned Parenthood again? Vaginas? Mexicans?
Is Benghazi a scandal yet?

Not sure what their next move is.
2013-09-16 02:45:37 PM  
1 vote:

serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


That depends.  What is it you think Republicans want?
2013-09-16 02:44:32 PM  
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I think that headline gave me early onset alzheimer's
2013-09-16 02:15:20 PM  
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serial_crusher: What percentage of what the Republicans want has Obama offered them?


Less than zero
2013-09-16 02:02:02 PM  
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you know who else had early onset Alzheimer's?

/seriously, do you know?
//I forgot.
2013-09-16 01:53:10 PM  
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You're blah, Mr. President.  That makes everything you do the work of the Devil and everything the other side does okay.
 
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