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(Mother Jones)   If you're one of those helicopter parents who need to have all the latest and greatest high-tech gadgets to control your precious little snowflakes, here's some more   (motherjones.com) divider line 73
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2013-09-16 03:48:16 PM  

Mikey1969: FloydA: Mikey1969:
Yeah, about those "ounces" i mentioned...

What about them?  For 20 bucks, you can buy a digital scale that is sensitive enough to measure ounces.  (Hell, for 70 bucks, you can get one that measures ounces, estimates your body fat, bone density, and body water percentages.)  There is really no good reason to spend $180 on a scale that sends readings to your iPhone, but that will be completely useless in a year (when a: the baby is too big for it and b:you get a new phone and the app no longer works).

A: I don't need the thing to send to an iPhone, that's just silly.



That's what the one in the article does.


B: Apparently you haven't heard about how people sell baby stuff all of the time. We've got t thing called "Craigslist" here on our end of the Internets. Hell, we even have stores here the do nothing but buy and re-sell baby clothes, toys and accessories.

I treasure my ignorance of all things baby-related.
 
2013-09-16 03:54:03 PM  

FloydA: Mikey1969: FloydA: Mikey1969:
Yeah, about those "ounces" i mentioned...

What about them?  For 20 bucks, you can buy a digital scale that is sensitive enough to measure ounces.  (Hell, for 70 bucks, you can get one that measures ounces, estimates your body fat, bone density, and body water percentages.)  There is really no good reason to spend $180 on a scale that sends readings to your iPhone, but that will be completely useless in a year (when a: the baby is too big for it and b:you get a new phone and the app no longer works).

A: I don't need the thing to send to an iPhone, that's just silly.


That's what the one in the article does.


B: Apparently you haven't heard about how people sell baby stuff all of the time. We've got t thing called "Craigslist" here on our end of the Internets. Hell, we even have stores here the do nothing but buy and re-sell baby clothes, toys and accessories.

I treasure my ignorance of all things baby-related.


That includes anything involved in making babies as well.
 
2013-09-16 03:56:08 PM  
I'd have slept much better with one of those Vitals Monitors available.  When my kid was a baby I constantly would wake up and look in on her.

As for the rest: The scale seems moderately useful though not at all necessary given the frequency of scheduled doctor visits at that age.  The rest seems pretty useless.
 
2013-09-16 03:56:38 PM  

Russ1642: FloydA: Mikey1969: FloydA: Mikey1969:
Yeah, about those "ounces" i mentioned...

What about them?  For 20 bucks, you can buy a digital scale that is sensitive enough to measure ounces.  (Hell, for 70 bucks, you can get one that measures ounces, estimates your body fat, bone density, and body water percentages.)  There is really no good reason to spend $180 on a scale that sends readings to your iPhone, but that will be completely useless in a year (when a: the baby is too big for it and b:you get a new phone and the app no longer works).

A: I don't need the thing to send to an iPhone, that's just silly.


That's what the one in the article does.


B: Apparently you haven't heard about how people sell baby stuff all of the time. We've got t thing called "Craigslist" here on our end of the Internets. Hell, we even have stores here the do nothing but buy and re-sell baby clothes, toys and accessories.

I treasure my ignorance of all things baby-related.

That includes anything involved in making babies as well.



Your mother disagrees.
 
2013-09-16 04:04:29 PM  

Mikey1969: FloydA: Mikey1969: No Such Agency: And owning your own baby scale is just dumb.  Do you own a bathroom scale?  Congratulations, you can weigh your baby.  Not rocket science.

Maybe we just have too much money.

Excerpt that babies are weighed in pounds and ounces when they are that small. Also, speaking from experience, have you ever tried to hold a baby in place on a regular bathroom scale without getting a faulty reading off of the scale? Any pressure downwards to hold the baby on the flat(If you're lucky) scale will tweak the results. Not only that, but the tray on that baby scale is curved on the edges and babies will roll right the fark off of a regular bathroom scale. I don't remember which baby I weighed and why, but it was a pain in the ass...

1) Pick up baby
2) Stand on scale, get weight of you plus baby
3) Put down baby
4) Stand on scale, get weight of you without baby
5) Subtract.

Yeah, about those "ounces" i mentioned...


As the mother of a six-week-old...Who the fark cares about ounces between doctor visits? Seriously. You do not need to know your child's weight down to the ounce. That's obsessing too much.

/I used  FloydA's method just the other day. My son weighs about two pounds more than he did at his last check up. Sure, it's not exact, since he was wearing clothes and his diaper, but all I needed to know was that he's growing, and he is, so he's probably fine.
 
zez
2013-09-16 04:08:51 PM  
If you're so distrusting of the nanny that you attach a GPS to the baby then why the fark are you handing the kid over every morning?
 
2013-09-16 04:09:26 PM  

Mikey1969: I have a friend whose daughter probably won't survive until 2 years old.



Good.  Hope it's painful.  The kid's probably better off dead if the parent thinks any of this tat would be useful.

And I'm willing to bet the kid isn't going to die due to not being weighed or fed.  Or maybe it is, in which case you should probably do something about it shouldn't you?

Or not.

But don't complain to me either way asshole.
 
2013-09-16 04:11:04 PM  

zez: If you're so distrusting of the nanny that you attach a GPS to the baby then why the fark are you handing the kid over every morning?


If you are so distrusting of the nanny, why are you letting them near your kid unattended in the first place?

They don't need to move the creature to hurt it.
 
2013-09-16 04:12:10 PM  
I'm also willing to bet Mikey199pwe4tu90e45803485034-85's friends kid is imaginary.

Actually I'm not as it's a pretty much a given.
 
2013-09-16 04:15:31 PM  

bborchar: On a serious not, the reason that these things are big sellers are as follows:

1. Books
2. "Experts"
3. Books written by "Experts"

...all of which tell you what a horrible person you are for eating deli meat and soft cheeses, and now your baby will be born with some horrible deformity that YOU could have prevented if only you had gone and had $3,000 worth of genetic testing done beforehand.  My husband's cousin is currently pregnant with her first child, and she is posting something to facebook EVERDAY about it.  Today it was "I wish I could have a caesar salad, but I can't!" along with a litany of things.  The worst part is that she works in a hospital and has access to all that material, too.  I told her just to calm down and if she wants a caesar salad to have one...by the second child, you don't have time to even give a crap anymore, because you're too busy chasing the first one around to even think about the second baby before he came.


I have a co-worker  who is s a Type A over-protective mommy-dearest with her 4 year.   She was like that during her pregnancy, consumed about what she was putting into her body.   Once the child was born it was constant stress and worrying about whether the baby food was organic/non-GMO.    If the kid has non-organic carrots, he's going to have cancer by the end of the week.      Now it's constant worrying about getting into the right Montessori  pre-schools, and whether he's going to behind other kids his age when it's time for him to go to school.  She's constantly on the phone talking to school supervisors giving them the 3rd degree about their curriculum.

She's in a never ceasing anxiety cycle about making this perfect child, and she's going to end up making him an neurotic, ball-less, scared, timid doormat who thinks life and the world is nothing more than one pitfall and dangerous trap after another, rather than having the confidence that obstacles are meant to be overcome and life is something that should be enjoyed and lived to it's fullest.    One of the worst things you could ever pass down to your child is the sense that the world is out to get them.   That's has a thousand times more impact on their lives than what pre-school they went to.
 
2013-09-16 04:18:02 PM  

InmanRoshi: Now it's constant worrying about getting into the right Montessori  pre-schools, and whether he's going to behind other kids his age when it's time for him to go to school.


He's going to behind them?  That's very precocious for a pre-schooler.  They usually don't start behinding each other until puberty.
 
2013-09-16 04:19:56 PM  
The whycry thing could be pretty useful for a parent who was deaf.

The Owlet thing looks pretty awesome. How many other products let you flip your baby by remote control?
www.owletcare.com
 
2013-09-16 04:20:45 PM  

Vaneshi: Mikey1969: I have a friend whose daughter probably won't survive until 2 years old.


Good.  Hope it's painful.  The kid's probably better off dead...



Happy Harshday, everyone!
 
2013-09-16 04:30:11 PM  

InmanRoshi: bborchar: On a serious not, the reason that these things are big sellers are as follows:

1. Books
2. "Experts"
3. Books written by "Experts"

...all of which tell you what a horrible person you are for eating deli meat and soft cheeses, and now your baby will be born with some horrible deformity that YOU could have prevented if only you had gone and had $3,000 worth of genetic testing done beforehand.  My husband's cousin is currently pregnant with her first child, and she is posting something to facebook EVERDAY about it.  Today it was "I wish I could have a caesar salad, but I can't!" along with a litany of things.  The worst part is that she works in a hospital and has access to all that material, too.  I told her just to calm down and if she wants a caesar salad to have one...by the second child, you don't have time to even give a crap anymore, because you're too busy chasing the first one around to even think about the second baby before he came.

I have a co-worker  who is s a Type A over-protective mommy-dearest with her 4 year.   She was like that during her pregnancy, consumed about what she was putting into her body.   Once the child was born it was constant stress and worrying about whether the baby food was organic/non-GMO.    If the kid has non-organic carrots, he's going to have cancer by the end of the week.      Now it's constant worrying about getting into the right Montessori  pre-schools, and whether he's going to behind other kids his age when it's time for him to go to school.  She's constantly on the phone talking to school supervisors giving them the 3rd degree about their curriculum.

She's in a never ceasing anxiety cycle about making this perfect child, and she's going to end up making him an neurotic, ball-less, scared, timid doormat who thinks life and the world is nothing more than one pitfall and dangerous trap after another, rather than having the confidence that obstacles are meant to be overcome and life is something that should be ...


I was never the obsessive type...always much more of a "go-with-the-flow" type, because what's the point of planning everything?  Something always derails it.  My first child was born with a birth defect that required abdominal surgery at one month old, then she suffered an infection of the wound afterwards.  Shortly after that, I got sick and almost died from pregnancy-related complications.  Now my second child (who turned 2 years old today) has a language delay and takes speech therapy.  If I were the obsessing type, I would have gone crazy worry and stress long ago.  You can't plan for things, especially when you have children.  You take them as they come and try to do the best you can with the situation you are handed.
 
2013-09-16 04:39:25 PM  

Mikey1969: FloydA: Mikey1969: No Such Agency: And owning your own baby scale is just dumb.  Do you own a bathroom scale?  Congratulations, you can weigh your baby.  Not rocket science.

Maybe we just have too much money.

Excerpt that babies are weighed in pounds and ounces when they are that small. Also, speaking from experience, have you ever tried to hold a baby in place on a regular bathroom scale without getting a faulty reading off of the scale? Any pressure downwards to hold the baby on the flat(If you're lucky) scale will tweak the results. Not only that, but the tray on that baby scale is curved on the edges and babies will roll right the fark off of a regular bathroom scale. I don't remember which baby I weighed and why, but it was a pain in the ass...

1) Pick up baby
2) Stand on scale, get weight of you plus baby
3) Put down baby
4) Stand on scale, get weight of you without baby
5) Subtract.

Yeah, about those "ounces" i mentioned...


My digital bathroom scale had ounces listed as do 99.999% of all digital scaled.
 
2013-09-16 05:18:18 PM  

Seige101: My digital bathroom scale had ounces listed as do 99.999% of all digital scaled.


Mine just blinks 12:00
 
2013-09-16 05:28:45 PM  

paswa17: Seige101: My digital bathroom scale had ounces listed as do 99.999% of all digital scaled.

Mine just blinks 12:00


That's your microwave oven..
 
2013-09-16 05:39:32 PM  
So I recently had a kid, and that Owlet sounds like it would keep my GF from having a major meltdown 2 nights a week...
$200 isn't that bad for sleep every other night.
 
2013-09-16 05:41:48 PM  

Mikey1969: Muta: Mikey1969: Really? A vitals monitor seems "stupid" to you? I have a friend whose daughter probably won't survive until 2 years old. She's in the hospital every few weeks. I guess it would be pretty "Stupid" to keep track of her vitals, in case they were able to get her in sooner.

I think it's stupid that you don't know the difference between a special case and wide spread use.

I think it's stupid that you seem to assume that because every parent in America doesn't need these, then it's "stupid" that anyone needs them. Where would this "special case" get such equipment? You think the hospital's gonna hand it out? No, they'll end up paying a fortune because it's specialized. Instead, they could have the potential to save thousands of dollars because there is now a mass market product. So yeah, because not everybody needs it, it's obviously not needed at all. Got it.

But these concepts probably won't fit up your ass, alongside your head. I get that.



If it's needed, the hospital WILL provide it (or arrange for a durable-medical-equipment shop to provide it). My son was born at 27 weeks and stayed in the NICU for 2-1/2 months. When he finally came home, the hospital offered to provide a breathing monitor (his was more for peace of mind than for any real need, since he had been stable for several weeks and just had to make his target weight to be discharged).
 
2013-09-16 07:25:53 PM  
Headline made me smile. Thanks!
 
2013-09-16 11:48:35 PM  
Ya know, an inexpensive baby vitals monitor might be a pretty good tool for studying SIDS at the very least.  It would be nice to know and maybe prevent random babies from just stopping breathing.
 
2013-09-17 03:51:21 AM  

bborchar: On a serious not, the reason that these things are big sellers are as follows:

1. Books
2. "Experts"
3. Books written by "Experts"

...all of which tell you what a horrible person you are for eating deli meat and soft cheeses, and now your baby will be born with some horrible deformity that YOU could have prevented if only you had gone and had $3,000 worth of genetic testing done beforehand.  My husband's cousin is currently pregnant with her first child, and she is posting something to facebook EVERDAY about it.  Today it was "I wish I could have a caesar salad, but I can't!" along with a litany of things.  The worst part is that she works in a hospital and has access to all that material, too.  I told her just to calm down and if she wants a caesar salad to have one...by the second child, you don't have time to even give a crap anymore, because you're too busy chasing the first one around to even think about the second baby before he came.


To get her caesar salad, does she go to the caesarian section?

\HA!
 
2013-09-17 09:10:23 AM  
A few suggestions for that last one.  Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Metallica, Rammstein and Iron Maiden
 
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