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2013-09-16 10:05:11 AM  
Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.

Fortunately, for the Perpetrator, the Victim had a friend who told the Perpetrator where the Victim was hiding.

/That joke should wake you all up from your dogmatic slumbers.
 
2013-09-16 10:20:34 AM  
Wasn't Kant a real pissant who was very rarely stable?
 
2013-09-16 10:32:52 AM  
one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly.



???
 
2013-09-16 10:38:29 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.


Apparently they are in good company. Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also didn't quite get the whole Kant thing.

Perhaps these two will start their own schools of thought. (Just don't argue with the guy holding the gun.)
 
2013-09-16 10:52:28 AM  
Maybe you Kant, but Genghis Khan
 
2013-09-16 11:03:05 AM  

gopher321: one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly.

???


In Russia you can own "gas pistols" that shoot tear gas, for self-defense purposes:     http://www.gunlab.com.ru/summary.html
 
2013-09-16 11:25:32 AM  
The discussion deteriorated into a fistfight and one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly

It sounds like he was just using the pistol for emphasis.
 
2013-09-16 11:28:35 AM  
Lying on the floor and bleeding to death sounds like a real Kafkaesque experience.
 
2013-09-16 11:31:01 AM  
When philosophers use non-lethal guns, it's usually a Transmogrifier.
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2013-09-16 11:31:18 AM  
At least Kierkegaard didn't wander in wearing a explosives vest and blow up the whole place.
 
2013-09-16 11:32:10 AM  
Well spoken. Bruce!!!!

/Very rarely stable
 
2013-09-16 11:34:10 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.

Fortunately, for the Perpetrator, the Victim had a friend who told the Perpetrator where the Victim was hiding.

/That joke should wake you all up from your dogmatic slumbers.


"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" ?
 
2013-09-16 11:35:15 AM  
Did the shooter intend to kill the victim?
 
2013-09-16 11:35:48 AM  

beezeltown: At least Kierkegaard didn't wander in wearing a explosives vest and blow up the whole place.


He was too busy biting the heads off of whippets.
 
2013-09-16 11:36:33 AM  
It's like ray-ee-aaaaaain...
 
2013-09-16 11:38:17 AM  
Don't bring pure reason to a gun fight
 
2013-09-16 11:39:11 AM  

dittybopper: beezeltown: At least Kierkegaard didn't wander in wearing a explosives vest and blow up the whole place.

He was too busy biting the heads off of whippets.


I believe that you have not paid me for one of my fruit machines.
 
2013-09-16 11:41:00 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.

Apparently they are in good company. Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also didn't quite get the whole Kant thing.


Do all philosophers have an "S" in their names?
 
2013-09-16 11:48:54 AM  
American 20-somethings ask, "who's Kant?"
 
2013-09-16 11:49:01 AM  

lelio: Don't bring pure reason to a gun fight


I'm  pretty sure that was one of the points mentioned in the Critique.  "Not as useful as a gun in a gun fight."
 
2013-09-16 11:50:52 AM  
 
2013-09-16 11:59:49 AM  
A police spokeswoman in Rostov-on Don, Viktoria Safarova, said two men in their 20s were discussing Kant as they stood in line to buy beer at a small store on Sunday.

Silly Russians, everyone knows Kant only approved of one kind of alcohol:

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2013-09-16 12:01:23 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Do all philosophers have an "S" in their names?


Some of them Kant.
 
2013-09-16 12:02:39 PM  

dittybopper: Wasn't Kant a real pissant who was very rarely stable?



Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table.  - Bruce
 
2013-09-16 12:07:11 PM  
Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table. ..
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach 'ya 'bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And René Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
 
2013-09-16 12:09:22 PM  

devine: Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table. ..
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach 'ya 'bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And René Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.


Oh yes, and no poofters.
 
2013-09-16 12:11:41 PM  
FTFA: "It was not clear which of Kant's ideas may have triggered the violence."

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2013-09-16 12:11:50 PM  
Nothing ironic about this. Kant fanbois can be dangerous if they don't get their booze.

/argument probably centered around the Transcendental Deduction
 
2013-09-16 12:12:24 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.

Apparently they are in good company. Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also didn't quite get the whole Kant thing.

Do all philosophers have an "S" in their names?


I'm sorry waiter, this conversation isn't very good.
 
2013-09-16 01:02:24 PM  

Aristocles: Nothing ironic about this. Kant fanbois can be dangerous if they don't get their booze.

/argument probably centered around the Transcendental Deduction


Yeah, I was gonna go with the transcendental unity of apperception or the concepts as pure categories of the understanding.  Folks get pissy about that, I think.
 
2013-09-16 01:40:04 PM  
So Russian exceptionalism?
 
2013-09-16 02:00:02 PM  
Hey, did someone quote the Python's Australian philosophy faculty sketch yet?
 
2013-09-16 02:07:58 PM  
On the one hand, it's pretty silly to shoot someone over Kant. On the other hand, in Russia, evidently, they are well-educated enough to shoot each other over Kant. Basically, making their thug life beat ours, hands down.
 
2013-09-16 02:20:51 PM  
Beware of Wittgenstein and his poker
 
2013-09-16 02:33:16 PM  

Silly_Sot: On the one hand, it's pretty silly to shoot someone over Kant. On the other hand, in Russia, evidently, they are well-educated enough to shoot each other over Kant. Basically, making their thug life beat ours, hands down.


Tupac West agrees.

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2013-09-16 03:47:45 PM  
Getting shot: observable phenomenon. Maybe it was an epistemological argument?
 
mhd
2013-09-16 04:10:21 PM  
Y Kant Boris Shoot?
 
2013-09-16 06:31:38 PM  

gopher321: one participant pulled out a small nonlethal pistol and fired repeatedly.

???


It was probably a:

a) water gun
b) Nerf gun
c) BB gun.
 
2013-09-16 06:40:02 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Because People in power are Stupid: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Apparently that whole Categorical Imperative thing went over their heads.

Apparently they are in good company. Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also didn't quite get the whole Kant thing.

Do all philosophers have an "S" in their names?


No. Plato.

Of course, that was just a nickname. His birth name was Aristocles. So maybe he isn't the best example.

John Locke
David Hume
Karl Marx
Gautama (the Buddha)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
George Berkeley

Yeah, I think it's a fair inductive conclusion that there are plenty of major philosophers with no "s" in their name.
 
2013-09-16 06:59:47 PM  

Aristocles: Nothing ironic about this. Kant fanbois can be dangerous if they don't get their booze.

/argument probably centered around the Transcendental Deduction


Daffy Duck missed that one when he was doing his deductions as Dorlock Holmes in Deduce You Say! (1956)
 
2013-09-16 08:51:47 PM  

brantgoose: John Locke
David Hume
Karl Marx
Gautama (the Buddha)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
George Berkeley



John Locke was allowed to use the postnominal title FRS for (Fellow of the Royal Society) and so his name would have been recorded at times as such.
David Hume was a Scotsman, you should never fail to label them just so you know.
Karl Marx in all practicality had a surname of Herschel shortly before his birth.
Guatama (the Buddha) was known as Siddhārtha Gautama or Shakyamuni.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz's mother's maiden name was Schmuck, that's got to count for something.
George Berkeley was a Bishop.

I think that covers it.

/s
 
2013-09-16 08:53:03 PM  

George Babbitt: brantgoose: John Locke
David Hume
Karl Marx
Gautama (the Buddha)
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
George Berkeley


John Locke was allowed to use the postnominal title FRS for (Fellow of the Royal Society) and so his name would have been recorded at times as such.
David Hume was a Scotsman, you should never fail to label them just so you know.
Karl Marx in all practicality had a surname of Herschel shortly before his birth.
Guatama (the Buddha) was known as Siddhārtha Gautama or Shakyamuni.
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz's mother's maiden name was Schmuck, that's got to count for something.
George Berkeley was a Bishop.

I think that covers it.

/s


Got the Karl part backwards, don't care, owning it.
 
2013-09-16 09:23:10 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Apparently they are in good company. Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also didn't quite get the whole Kant thing.

Perhaps these two will start their own schools of thought. (Just don't argue with the guy holding the gun.)


I think that was Heidegger's approach.

/I yelled at a person a couple of months ago for not getting the idea of determinism.
//Christ, the definition is practically in the word.
 
2013-09-16 09:23:13 PM  
The attacker was heard screaming "shiat just got noumenal! It's an a-priori synethtic proposition that imma bust a cap in yo' ass!"


Obviously this is Kant-related violence left over from the last election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M-cmNdiFuI
 
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