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(Washington Post)   For some, the seven-figure payout they got for being a victim of the Boston Marathon bombing means a new house or new apartment. For others, it means having at least some of the money that a lifetime of surgeries and prosthetic limbs will require   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2013-09-16 09:18:00 AM  
This is very likely to come up in the victim impact statements during the sentencing phase of the trial.  I can't even imagine what it's like to have a limb or two blown off, but I'm pretty sure it's the kind of thing that changes your life forever.  I hope that they all get to live the best lives possible, but it's important to remember what was taken away from them that they can never have back.
 
2013-09-16 10:28:26 AM  
Pack the bags, we're going on a guilt trip.
 
2013-09-16 11:04:06 AM  
I don't see the problem here. They're still alive. They were compensated enough to get the best treatment and prosthetic equipment money can buy. They have family support. Like nekom said, their lives will never be the same, and they have to learn how to live differently, but they're still alive.
 
2013-09-16 11:19:25 AM  
But what about all the prize money they'll get from pirate costume contests?
 
2013-09-16 11:21:52 AM  
Oh my.
 
2013-09-16 11:23:07 AM  
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but they're still alive.
 
2013-09-16 11:23:33 AM  
Wow, a charity gave large checks out to the victims? Sometimes the world redeems itself.
 
2013-09-16 11:23:52 AM  
Either the hospital or the insurance company will be lined up to get paid first for the initial surgery.
 
2013-09-16 11:24:53 AM  

nekom: This is very likely to come up in the victim impact statements during the sentencing phase of the trial.  I can't even imagine what it's like to have a limb or two blown off, but I'm pretty sure it's the kind of thing that changes your life forever.  I hope that they all get to live the best lives possible, but it's important to remember what was taken away from them that they can never have back.


This

They can never be made whole, and really could we ever put a price tag on that to begin with?
 
2013-09-16 11:25:18 AM  
I'm stumped why anyone would act like this. Everyone stand down before hopping to conclusions.
 
2013-09-16 11:26:18 AM  
It is true that they didn't ask for this.
 
2013-09-16 11:27:08 AM  
Let's repeal Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to preventing these moochers from obtaining coverage for the rest of their lives.
 
2013-09-16 11:28:51 AM  
Or you could have, ya know, gotten nothing.
 
2013-09-16 11:29:29 AM  
I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.
 
2013-09-16 11:29:49 AM  

lockers: Wow, a charity gave large checks out to the victims? Sometimes the world redeems itself.


Yes, but then people will complain about it not being fair, or since it was even, not being better distributed, or would have been better spent some other way.  So even in an act of hope you realize humanity is doomed.

/I don't want to live on this planet anymore
//Thanks Obama
 
2013-09-16 11:30:27 AM  

ChipNASA: I'm stumped why anyone would act like this. Everyone stand down before hopping to conclusions.


Because it's easy to run off at the mouth when you see someone getting charity in our boot-strap culture. Ppeople resent the idea that someone else is getting a leg up on them.
 
2013-09-16 11:32:25 AM  
I don't understand why anyone should get a payout over things like this. People, Moms and Dads, loved ones, die every single day and hit the family just as hard. They don't get anything. Why should being killed or hurt that way get millions?
 
2013-09-16 11:32:56 AM  

lockers: Wow, a charity gave large checks out to the victims? Sometimes the world redeems itself.


On the plus side, the actions of good humans went some way to redeem humanity after the actions of bad humans. On the minus side, the actions of dead-eyed automata, loosely masquerading as humans, employed by the insurance/healthcare 'system' will ensure that they remain well and truly farked.

/debbiedowner.jpg
 
2013-09-16 11:33:26 AM  

Thunderpipes: I don't understand why anyone should get a payout over things like this. People, Moms and Dads, loved ones, die every single day and hit the family just as hard. They don't get anything. Why should being killed or hurt that way get millions?


Because the people with the money are willing to pay out in times of tragedy.
 
2013-09-16 11:34:32 AM  
Meanwhile, residents of the former town of West, Texas scrounge around... (the other tragedy that week)
 
2013-09-16 11:37:53 AM  
Because people and corporations, of their own freewill, donated their money to a charity for the purpose of providing payment to the victims of the bombing.  You don't have a problem with people deciding how they want to spend their money do you?
 
2013-09-16 11:41:47 AM  

rattchett: Because people and corporations, of their own freewill, donated their money to a charity for the purpose of providing payment to the victims of the bombing.  You don't have a problem with people deciding how they want to spend their money do you?


No, the 9/11 fund has some government money and control, assumed this would be the same. Did not read the article :(
 
2013-09-16 11:44:21 AM  

Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.


I'd do this in a second.  If I had an artificial arm I'd go all Inspector Gadget.  Laser pointer in one finger, USB drive in another, cell phone, LCD display in the forearm...
 
2013-09-16 11:45:57 AM  
Do they make Swiss Army legs? They could come in handy.
 
2013-09-16 11:46:43 AM  
I'm a little confused as to who the non-injured victims are that are also receiving large payouts are.  Family members of the deceased, I'm guessing?
 
2013-09-16 11:46:51 AM  
yeah it sucks, but they should be glad they got any help, they sound awfully ungrateful.
 
2013-09-16 11:47:09 AM  
In the meantime 99% of people (many of them children) who has had their limbs severed through bombings, machetes etc will never even see a penny let alone advanced prosthetics.
 
2013-09-16 11:47:18 AM  

ArkPanda: Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.

I'd do this in a second.  If I had an artificial arm I'd go all Inspector Gadget.  Laser pointer in one finger, USB drive in another, cell phone, LCD display in the forearm...


Those are risky operations, but they'll be worth it.
 
2013-09-16 11:49:30 AM  
Just like the first responders and victims of the world trade center incident, these people should have their medical care picked up for life.

Heck, being a named "terrorist activity" why not add them to the VA system. (It has its own problem, I know.) Aren't we fighting a "War on Terror" anyway?
 
2013-09-16 11:58:10 AM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Just like the first responders and victims of the world trade center incident, these people should have their medical care picked up for life.

Heck, being a named "terrorist activity" why not add them to the VA system. (It has its own problem, I know.) Aren't we fighting a "War on Terror" anyway?


Anyone anywhere who experiences tragic loss of health or livelihood, from missing limbs to cancer, should have their medical care picked up for life. The fact that we still don't take care of people who can't take care of themselves (unless they're loaded) is proof that despite our iPhones, interwebs, and cable television we're still barbarians rooting around in the mud.
 
2013-09-16 11:58:21 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Let's repeal Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to preventing these moochers from obtaining coverage for the rest of their lives.


How about we repeal Obamacare, because the legislation is a piece of crap?

How about we repeal Obamacare, because it's going to cost the jobs of thousands if not millions of people; who work 40 hours a week for shiatty wages?

/ you never fine corporations; you incentivize them. If you, for example, allowed the corporation to write off a percentage of the cost of paying for their employee's policies and they'd rush to sign people up
 
2013-09-16 11:58:47 AM  

Thunderpipes: rattchett: Because people and corporations, of their own freewill, donated their money to a charity for the purpose of providing payment to the victims of the bombing.  You don't have a problem with people deciding how they want to spend their money do you?

No, the 9/11 fund has some government money and control, assumed this would be the same. Did not read the article :(


FTFA: But the Nordens and their friends believe the plan for distributing the money was ill-conceived by lawyer Kenneth Feinberg, who also set up the payment formula after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill and other disasters.

Same person handling the payouts, if the poorly-worded article can be believed.
 
2013-09-16 12:00:54 PM  
i wish i could get my leg blown off in a terrorist attack and get paid a cool million bucks.  i wouldn't even get a prosthetic leg, i would stick that money right in the bank and retire.  people back in the last century had wooden peg legs, and if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for me.  my hobbies include surfing the internet and writing fan fiction and watching pornography.  i can do that with one leg.
 
2013-09-16 12:03:08 PM  

monoski: Either the hospital or the insurance company will be lined up to get paid first for the initial surgery.


Well, in fairness, why shouldn't the hospital get paid for the work they do?
 
2013-09-16 12:04:12 PM  

iheartscotch: Uranus Is Huge!: Let's repeal Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to preventing these moochers from obtaining coverage for the rest of their lives.

How about we repeal Obamacare, because the legislation is a piece of crap?

How about we repeal Obamacare, because it's going to cost the jobs of thousands if not millions of people; who work 40 hours a week for shiatty wages?

/ you never fine corporations; you incentivize them. If you, for example, allowed the corporation to write off a percentage of the cost of paying for their employee's policies and they'd rush to sign people up



Is that sarcasm?  Because that is literally the pre-Obamacare law.  Expenses associated with health insurance is a tax write-off.  However, 50% of your insurance costs is still more than 0% of your insurance cost.

There's also loads of studies that show paying employees and providing benefits produces better employees and generally pays for itself.  That's why Sam's Club employees seem shiatty compared to Costco employees.  The fact of the matter is people are more willing to screw over people than to treat them like human beings.
 
2013-09-16 12:06:00 PM  

enderthexenocide: i wish i could get my leg blown off in a terrorist attack and get paid a cool million bucks.  i wouldn't even get a prosthetic leg, i would stick that money right in the bank and retire.  people back in the last century had wooden peg legs, and if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for me.  my hobbies include surfing the internet and writing fan fiction and watching pornography.  i can do that with one leg.


don't confuse your wood.

/ba-dum-tss
 
2013-09-16 12:06:11 PM  

ChipNASA: I'm stumped why anyone would act like this. Everyone stand down before hopping to conclusions.


Too soon, dude.

/going to hell on the express elevator
 
2013-09-16 12:06:25 PM  

Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.


I'd build it myself if I had to.  I've thought about what kind of cyberlimbs I would make if I ended up paralyzed or amputeed.

I've actually had dreams where I've lost my arm and found all the options lacking.  I ended up building my own and going into prosthetics.  There was a crying family that came in because their kid lost their leg, and when I showed them what my robot arm could do they were okay with it.

I have weird dreams.
 
2013-09-16 12:10:33 PM  
Don't you think we should ask for *more* than a million dollars? A million dollars isn't exactly a lot of money these days. Virtucon alone makes over 9 billion dollars a year!
 
2013-09-16 12:12:29 PM  

Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.


Not sick in the head, just misinformed of the cost and lifetime surgeries that are sometimes required with these things.
 
2013-09-16 12:13:30 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Heck, being a named "terrorist activity" why not add them to the VA system. (It has its own problem, I know.) Aren't we fighting a "War on Terror" anyway?


While my first thought is that the VA system is reserved for veterans, there's some merit to this.  While it's not a perfect system, none are, and it's particularly suited for handling the injuries associated with this event.

There would be a steep learning curve though; it's normally used by vets who have experience navigating government bureaucracies.
 
2013-09-16 12:14:09 PM  
You guys imagining how you could become the terminator with 1.2 brazillion dollars may not have read TFA. An quality real-world prosthetic leg available today costs well over $100,000 and needs to be replaced in a few years. It may be more money than you can imagine, but it's easy to see how it's not going to cover basic medical expenses for these guys for very long.
 
2013-09-16 12:15:10 PM  

enderthexenocide: i wish i could get my leg blown off in a terrorist attack and get paid a cool million bucks.  i wouldn't even get a prosthetic leg, i would stick that money right in the bank and retire.  people back in the last century had wooden peg legs, and if it was good enough for them, it's good enough for me.  my hobbies include surfing the internet and writing fan fiction and watching pornography.  i can do that with one leg.


My hobbies are running, scuba diving, cycling, and music.  My job is inspecting electrical systems on warships.  Other than music, my entire life would have to change.  (And even then, I would have trouble getting on the stage or standing up to take a bow.)

I'd end up with multiple purpose-dedicated replacement limbs.

I'd put all of it in the bank and live off the interest.
 
2013-09-16 12:16:37 PM  

mike_d85: iheartscotch: Uranus Is Huge!: Let's repeal Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to preventing these moochers from obtaining coverage for the rest of their lives.

How about we repeal Obamacare, because the legislation is a piece of crap?

How about we repeal Obamacare, because it's going to cost the jobs of thousands if not millions of people; who work 40 hours a week for shiatty wages?

/ you never fine corporations; you incentivize them. If you, for example, allowed the corporation to write off a percentage of the cost of paying for their employee's policies and they'd rush to sign people up


Is that sarcasm?  Because that is literally the pre-Obamacare law.  Expenses associated with health insurance is a tax write-off.  However, 50% of your insurance costs is still more than 0% of your insurance cost.

There's also loads of studies that show paying employees and providing benefits produces better employees and generally pays for itself.  That's why Sam's Club employees seem shiatty compared to Costco employees.  The fact of the matter is people are more willing to screw over people than to treat them like human beings.


Indeed. It is sarcasm.

While I agree that providing insurance to employees creates better employees. But, legislating a solution is the last thing we want. At best; the various companies will pass on the costs of healthcare. At worst; the company will fire all of their full time people and replace them with part time employees. The latter is already happening. Most retailers; even the good ones aren't hiring full time anymore.

My point? Now all of those full time people have to find 2 part time jobs to make the same amount of money. Then, they have to buy insurance on their own. This bill couldn't be designed to screw over the little guy more than it is already.
 
2013-09-16 12:19:10 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: You guys imagining how you could become the terminator with 1.2 brazillion dollars may not have read TFA. An quality real-world prosthetic leg available today costs well over $100,000 and needs to be replaced in a few years. It may be more money than you can imagine, but it's easy to see how it's not going to cover basic medical expenses for these guys for very long.


I'll bet that $100,000 leg costs $20,000 in reality. How about the prosthetic company donate their margin?
 
2013-09-16 12:19:20 PM  

iheartscotch: mike_d85: iheartscotch: Uranus Is Huge!: Let's repeal Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to preventing these moochers from obtaining coverage for the rest of their lives.

How about we repeal Obamacare, because the legislation is a piece of crap?

How about we repeal Obamacare, because it's going to cost the jobs of thousands if not millions of people; who work 40 hours a week for shiatty wages?

/ you never fine corporations; you incentivize them. If you, for example, allowed the corporation to write off a percentage of the cost of paying for their employee's policies and they'd rush to sign people up


Is that sarcasm?  Because that is literally the pre-Obamacare law.  Expenses associated with health insurance is a tax write-off.  However, 50% of your insurance costs is still more than 0% of your insurance cost.

There's also loads of studies that show paying employees and providing benefits produces better employees and generally pays for itself.  That's why Sam's Club employees seem shiatty compared to Costco employees.  The fact of the matter is people are more willing to screw over people than to treat them like human beings.

Indeed. It is sarcasm.

While I agree that providing insurance to employees creates better employees. But, legislating a solution is the last thing we want. At best; the various companies will pass on the costs of healthcare. At worst; the company will fire all of their full time people and replace them with part time employees. The latter is already happening. Most retailers; even the good ones aren't hiring full time anymore.

My point? Now all of those full time people have to find 2 part time jobs to make the same amount of money. Then, they have to buy insurance on their own. This bill couldn't be designed to screw over the little guy more than it is already.


Dittos
 
2013-09-16 12:21:15 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: You guys imagining how you could become the terminator with 1.2 brazillion dollars may not have read TFA. An quality real-world prosthetic leg available today costs well over $100,000 and needs to be replaced in a few years. It may be more money than you can imagine, but it's easy to see how it's not going to cover basic medical expenses for these guys for very long.


liam76: Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.

Not sick in the head, just misinformed of the cost and lifetime surgeries that are sometimes required with these things.


Yes but the problem with that isn't so much the cost and surgeries as the fact that we live in a world where only the wealthy can afford such things. I'm a proponent of total universal healthcare. In a just world someone losing an arm would get the most advanced cyberlimb science can provide, with upgrades for life, for only the cost of whatever taxes they pay annually.

It's completely farked that we have this technology but only 1% of the world's population are allowed access to it.

/Yeah yeah, I know. b-b-but...socialism!
//Stop being such greedy bastards and help your fellow man.
 
GBB
2013-09-16 12:22:07 PM  
Dude better cash that while funds are still available.  I can just hear the news reports from the future where he goes to cash the check only to find the account is closed and One Fund is gone.
 
2013-09-16 12:27:28 PM  

Esroc: liam76: Esroc: I must be sick in the head. Because if I lost a leg and someone handed me a 1.2 Million dollar check I'd spend it on the most badass robot cyber-leg money could buy and giggle like a madman while doing it.

Not sick in the head, just misinformed of the cost and lifetime surgeries that are sometimes required with these things.

Yes but the problem with that isn't so much the cost and surgeries as the fact that we live in a world where only the wealthy can afford such things. I'm a proponent of total universal healthcare. In a just world someone losing an arm would get the most advanced cyberlimb science can provide, with upgrades for life, for only the cost of whatever taxes they pay annually.

It's completely farked that we have this technology but only 1% of the world's population are allowed access to it.

/Yeah yeah, I know. b-b-but...socialism!
//Stop being such greedy bastards and help your fellow man.


In that world there is no "cadillac" of prosthetic arms.

I support universal healthcare, but recognize with it not everybody is getting the same care that the rich do.
 
2013-09-16 12:29:09 PM  

theMagni: My hobbies are running, scuba diving, cycling, and music. My job is inspecting electrical systems on warships. Other than music, my entire life would have to change. (And even then, I would have trouble getting on the stage or standing up to take a bow.)


1 leg blown off below the knee?  You can still do all of the above, easy.
 
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