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2013-09-15 09:35:56 AM  
Really?!?
C'mon.
 
2013-09-15 09:49:40 AM  
That's the quality of book larnin' you get from Georgia.
 
2013-09-15 10:35:15 AM  
I tried to leave a tasteful post informing them of their error but it seems the comments section is broken.
 
2013-09-15 11:41:16 AM  
At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.
 
2013-09-15 11:58:50 AM  
It should actually be June 28.
 
2013-09-15 12:11:12 PM  

Ivo Shandor: It should actually be June 28.


That's Tau, not Pi
 
2013-09-15 12:13:03 PM  

gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.


Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?
 
2013-09-15 12:22:02 PM  

Relatively Obscure: That's Tau, not Pi


The special mathematical constant associated with circles should have been 6.28... rather than 3.14..., regardless of which letter was attached to it. Personally I'm not a fan of calling it 'tau' since that symbol is already used for too many other things.
 
2013-09-15 12:24:40 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Relatively Obscure: That's Tau, not Pi

The special mathematical constant associated with circles should have been 6.28... rather than 3.14..., regardless of which letter was attached to it. Personally I'm not a fan of calling it 'tau' since that symbol is already used for too many other things.


Maybe it should have been, but Pi is already somethin', damnit, and that ain't it.

Hmph!
 
2013-09-15 12:27:12 PM  
in case they change it or fix it:

i1309.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-15 12:34:49 PM  

Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?


I do.

/Hopelessly naive
 
2013-09-15 12:40:08 PM  
I should email their Director as a professional courtesy, to congratulate her for going viral and geting huge amounts of free media exposure  Too bad it's because her staff made the Library look completely incompetent.

Seriously - how hard is it to look up the value of pi?  For that matter, how the hell did someone in Teens get the idea that pi is 9.14?
 
2013-09-15 12:41:19 PM  

Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?


Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.
 
2013-09-15 12:44:58 PM  
Mmmmmmmmmm, pi.
 
2013-09-15 12:45:07 PM  

Ivo Shandor: rather than 3.14...,


14th March?  Kinda works.

I admit being a Euro and reading that as a date I was curious about what two additional months America had invented :)
 
2013-09-15 12:52:19 PM  

pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.


Dekalb county is securely in that blue dot area.
 
2013-09-15 01:03:16 PM  
Uh, for some values of pi?
 
2013-09-15 01:21:29 PM  

Vaneshi: I admit being a Euro and reading that as a date I was curious about what two additional months America had invented :)


Pi Day in the US is March 14 (3.14), but internationally it is July 22 (22/7).
 
2013-09-15 01:21:36 PM  

Majick Thise: I tried to leave a tasteful post informing them of their error but it seems the comments section is broken.


I posted a comment informing them of their error and got a message saying it was awaiting moderation.
 
2013-09-15 01:23:35 PM  
THe problem is they're saying Pi instead of PIE...
 
2013-09-15 01:31:04 PM  

Tom_Slick: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

Dekalb county is securely in that blue dot area.


For certain definitions of blue.  And being more liberal than your neighbors (THAT'S a low bar in Georgia) doesn't necessarily make you smarter.

DeKalb has long been the third rail of libraries.  Lots of people won't go near that Director job.  It's infamous.  The staff there are so incredibly bad, due to incompetent hiring and incompetent management, that there is no way any Director is going to turn that place around.  *I* certainly wouldn't touch it with the business end of a barge pole.
 
2013-09-15 01:39:32 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Majick Thise: I tried to leave a tasteful post informing them of their error but it seems the comments section is broken.

I posted a comment informing them of their error and got a message saying it was awaiting moderation.


Common in libraries.  Otherwise, you get kids and teens posting comments like, "PENIS!" repeatedly.  And there are folks who would use language inappropriate for the library.  I would be incredibly surprised if any comment about this ever shows up on their site, though.

I sent them a comment as well, understanding that it'll never see the light of day, but explaining the error in Library Science terms and letting them know what they should have done differently.  Basically, too bad all this attention is coming from the fact that you just advertised to the entire Internet that DeKalb County Library staff do not know a basic mathematical value, and that even when there is a definitive question with only one factual answer (what is the value of pi?), you make it up off the top of your heads and call it good, plus put that incorrect information out there as part of an organized program.

I also noted that they're lucky I'm not their Director.

I do plan to rib Alison (their Director) about this next time I see her at a conference.  I doubt she'll even know about it.  It's not something Teens will want to put in their monthly report.
 
2013-09-15 01:39:48 PM  
maybe that's the metric pi
 
2013-09-15 01:47:41 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Bathia_Mapes: Majick Thise: I tried to leave a tasteful post informing them of their error but it seems the comments section is broken.

I posted a comment informing them of their error and got a message saying it was awaiting moderation.

Common in libraries.  Otherwise, you get kids and teens posting comments like, "PENIS!" repeatedly.  And there are folks who would use language inappropriate for the library.  I would be incredibly surprised if any comment about this ever shows up on their site, though.

I sent them a comment as well, understanding that it'll never see the light of day, but explaining the error in Library Science terms and letting them know what they should have done differently.  Basically, too bad all this attention is coming from the fact that you just advertised to the entire Internet that DeKalb County Library staff do not know a basic mathematical value, and that even when there is a definitive question with only one factual answer (what is the value of pi?), you make it up off the top of your heads and call it good, plus put that incorrect information out there as part of an organized program.

I also noted that they're lucky I'm not their Director.

I do plan to rib Alison (their Director) about this next time I see her at a conference.  I doubt she'll even know about it.  It's not something Teens will want to put in their monthly report.


Oh, I completely understand why they moderate comments. Makes common sense to do so, but considering the fact that they have computers available, I'm truly confused as to why no one took a couple of minutes and googled Pi Day.

For the life of me I can't imagine either of the public libraries in my area doing something so boneheaded.
 
2013-09-15 01:49:05 PM  
Maybe they were thinking of reversing the date?  ...and still missed it?

date: 9.14.13
backwards: 3.1419
pi: 3.1416 (rounded)
 
2013-09-15 02:00:39 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: For the life of me I can't imagine either of the public libraries in my area doing something so boneheaded.


I should hope not.

At first, I wondered how many stupid people must work there for an event to get planned...  but now I look at it and realize this is one person who was desperate for something to post, and went on goodreads to find some books with math in them, and wrote a quick blurb.

So, one idiot.  But what a bonehead maneuver.
 
2013-09-15 02:06:16 PM  
Pi day is March Zeroth.

/exactly 3
 
2013-09-15 02:36:39 PM  

Solid Muldoon: Mmmmmmmmmm, pi.


ampatbrl.files.wordpress.com

/Obligatory
 
2013-09-15 02:39:14 PM  

pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.


And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.
 
2013-09-15 02:40:43 PM  
Happy 9/14!!

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-15 02:48:15 PM  

doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.


No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.
 
2013-09-15 04:03:54 PM  

pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with

Atlanta as a small blue dot.

Of which Decatur (Dekalb County) is the most liberal area, so there's that.
 
2013-09-15 04:05:13 PM  
Aaaaand it's gone.

Whoops! We can't find that page

Sorry. The page you requested is not in our database. You may have followed a bad external link, or mis-typed a URL. Or it may just be an error on our server.
 
wee
2013-09-15 04:12:23 PM  

calbert: in case they change it or fix it:


Instead they just 404'ed themselves.
 
2013-09-15 04:30:09 PM  
pxlboy
Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And look where the idiots are:


Presidential elections results in DeKalb County[3] Year Democratic Republican Others
2008 78.86% 254,594 20.31% 65,581 0.86% 2,671
2004 72.61% 200,787 26.61% 73,570 0.77% 2,152
2000 70.24% 154,509 26.73% 58,807 3.03% 6,664
1996 66.5% 137,903 29.1% 60,255 4.4% 9,071
1992 57.8% 124,559 32.6% 70,282 9.6% 20,594
1988 50.2% 92,521 48.9% 90,179 10.8% 1,550


Democrats... all the way down.
 
2013-09-15 05:06:59 PM  
Maybe this would help..

www.macmeisters.com
ok maybe not..
 
2013-09-15 05:24:23 PM  

Vaneshi: Ivo Shandor: rather than 3.14...,

14th March?  Kinda works.

I admit being a Euro and reading that as a date I was curious about what two additional months America had invented :)


i4.photobucket.com
Lousy Smarch weather.
 
2013-09-15 07:30:13 PM  

BZWingZero: Vaneshi: I admit being a Euro and reading that as a date I was curious about what two additional months America had invented :)

Pi Day in the US is March 14 (3.14), but internationally it is July 22 (22/7).


And in the world of science, it's nothing, because what the hell is wrong with you people, it's just a damned number, and also dates are neither fractions nor decimals and thus do not work that way.

//Memorizing digits of pi, by the way, also weird.  If you know it beyond five or six decimal digits you either have the worst, most pedantic job ever or you've failed basic math at the junior-high level where they taught you about significant figures and error bars.
 
2013-09-15 08:40:22 PM  
The little man in the boat approves!

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-15 09:26:26 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.




I lived there for four years in the Victorian District, up until this past March.
 
2013-09-15 09:35:48 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.




For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.
 
2013-09-15 09:39:40 PM  

doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.

For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.


We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I go back every couple years, and I never feel that I'm in a liberal area.
 
2013-09-15 10:03:30 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.

For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I go back every couple years, and I never feel that I'm in a liberal area.




Bay Area Center for Voting Research put it at 69th out of 237 US cities over 100,000 people.

What area are you from?
 
2013-09-15 10:20:10 PM  

doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.

For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I go back every couple years, and I never feel that I'm in a liberal area.

Bay Area Center for Voting Research put it at 69th out of 237 US cities over 100,000 people.

What area are you from?


I grew up in Savannah, midtown.  7th generation born there.  I didn't leave permanently until I went to graduate school.

You?
 
2013-09-15 10:28:23 PM  
uhm, 22/7 is pi day.
 
2013-09-15 11:06:56 PM  
Hope someone took a screenshot, cuz it's gone...
 
2013-09-16 01:16:32 AM  

TheShadow: Hope someone took a screenshot, cuz it's gone...


clemmyssugarfreeinitiative.com
404 - Pi not found.
 
2013-09-16 02:56:30 AM  
March 14th is during the school year, so the Squirrel Princess and I got married on July 22nd...
 
2013-09-16 02:56:36 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.

For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I go back every couple years, and I never feel that I'm in a liberal area.

Bay Area Center for Voting Research put it at 69th out of 237 US cities over 100,000 people.

What area are you from?

I grew up in Savannah, midtown.  7th generation born there.  I didn't leave permanently until I went to graduate school.

You?


Born in Atlanta, grew up in southeastern Kentucky, lived in Louisville a few years and then Savannah. Had an apartment around Abercorn and 31st, and walked everywhere north of there or south as far as Derenne when I had time. Walked all the way to Montgomery Hall when I missed the buses once (Montgomery just south of the railroad crossing--something like 46th). And I didn't have a car and usually walked to doctors' offices on Waters from Abercorn stops. So. I got to know the area pretty well.

I did mostly end up around people who take the city bus and people involved with SCAD (students and staff) though, so that's a slightly biased sample.
 
2013-09-16 02:59:32 AM  

doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: Benevolent Misanthrope: doloresonthedottedline: pxlboy: Vodka Zombie: gilgigamesh: At first I assumed they picked the day in reference to pi as a fraction, before I realized that would have to be 22/7, and then realizing there is no 22nd month.

But in fairness that was with a hangover and before coffee.

Well, it could be the Euro-style of dates where they put the day before the month.  But, let's face it: Does anyone think people in Georgia are capable of that sort of thing?

Well, Georgia is a sea of red derp with Atlanta as a small blue dot.

And Savanah. Massive art school, pretty liberal area.

No.  Just... no.  Grew up there.  No.  The fact that there's an art school there does NOT mean it's liberal, for fark's sake.  Go visit.  Talk to people.  Paula F*cking DEEN is from there.  Come on.  At least pretend you thought about it for a second.

For what it's worth, I assume you moved away? SCAD has been expanding basically nonstop. Savannah is one of very few places in the south with that much art and culture. For the size of the city and location, Savannah is pretty liberal.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.  I go back every couple years, and I never feel that I'm in a liberal area.

Bay Area Center for Voting Research put it at 69th out of 237 US cities over 100,000 people.

What area are you from?

I grew up in Savannah, midtown.  7th generation born there.  I didn't leave permanently until I went to graduate school.

You?

Born in Atlanta, grew up in southeastern Kentucky, lived in Louisville a few years and then Savannah. Had an apartment around Abercorn and 31st, and walked everywhere north of there or south as far as Derenne when I had time. Walked all the way to Montgomery Hall when I missed the buses once (Montgomery just south of the railroad crossing--something like 46th). And I didn't have a car and usually walked to doctors' offices on Waters from Abercorn stops. So. I got to know the area pretty well.

I did mostly end up around people who take the city bus and people involved with SCAD (students and staff) though, so that's a slightly biased sample.


Don't know why I said once, I walked to and from Monty a lot. But I had to walk it in under 15 minutes once to not fail a class.

Anyway, gorgeous city. But there are a lot of really separate social spheres. The SCAD students are mostly terrified of stepping an inch outside of campus.
 
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