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(New York Daily News)   Microsoft admits it might not be tasteful to mock the dead, even if he was a giant douchebag   (nydailynews.com) divider line 25
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2013-09-15 03:00:08 PM
6 votes:

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

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Right...yah...about that...
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2013-09-15 01:56:53 PM
5 votes:
How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.
2013-09-15 02:11:26 PM
4 votes:

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


This is my opinion as well, kind of interesting how the revered underdog ended up doing nothing that useful, meanwhile the ex-emporer of the evil empire of Microsoft continues to build a lasting legacy of good will and philanthropy.
2013-09-15 07:15:36 PM
2 votes:

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. MelindaGates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


Fixed. Before he got married, Bill's idea of charity was "donating" Windows PC's and software to schools, back when Apple still dominated the education market.
2013-09-15 06:51:06 PM
2 votes:
Creepy, that the somewhat scummy CEO of a company is now right up there with Elvis when it comes to "morbid post-death cult-like followings." If you've ever seen the Graceland candlelight vigil, held every year on the anniversary of his death, and listen to the bizarre conversations from folks that have essentially turned a drug-addled musician past his prime into a demi-god, it's not that much different than listening to rabid Apple fans frothing at the mouth because someone poked at their demi-god.
2013-09-15 06:26:30 PM
2 votes:

technoblogical: RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG

Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY


Tell ya what, send me your email address, twitter account, and phone number, and I'll pass all my decisions by you in the future to make sure they pass muster.

The YouTube link in the article was sent a takedown notice and so the video was removed.

I found the video and uploaded it to a site that makes it trivial to upload videos and one that is more obscure than YouTube so that it would not be taken down as quickly.

Next time, I'll do as you suggest and upload it right back to YouTube so that will make its takedown easy and YouTube has already removed the video in question at least once...  It seems like a dumb site to upload it to, but it's worth it to get your approval.
2013-09-15 03:01:03 PM
2 votes:

notagraphicartist: iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count


So you are saying that unless I am a billionaire, I can't say Warren Buffet is a better one than, say, a Koch brother?

I mean, I'm sure all you meant to do was find some weird way to get pissy at me for making a judgement, but come on, you can't really believe what you said.

Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities, where do you get off judging me? Surely the same "walk in my boots first" bit must apply there as well, hypocrite.
2013-09-15 02:34:25 PM
2 votes:
I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.
2013-09-15 02:33:43 PM
2 votes:

Smackledorfer: So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.


Windows is based on source code stolen from Digital Equipment Corporation. As in pre trial discovery found that the actual source code and comments were identical after Microsoft hired away one of DEC's most important OS designers and his team.

Mac was inspired by the Alto at Xerox PARC which Apple asked permission to see and paid up front for the privilege.

Yea. They are assholes in different ways.
2013-09-15 02:33:42 PM
2 votes:

Smackledorfer: Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.

So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?


Exactly, and Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.
2013-09-15 07:33:50 PM
1 votes:

skinink: they are still a hugely profitable company with mature products.


The Zune and Windows 8 would like a word with you...
2013-09-15 06:28:39 PM
1 votes:

notagraphicartist: I leave that for YOUR flavor of hypocrisy.


How superior of you.

Also you might want to learn the definition of Hypocrite.  It is not hypocritical to be a non-billionaire and ask billionaires to behave a certain way.

Why are so many people so seemingly incapable of learning that word?
2013-09-15 06:11:03 PM
1 votes:

RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG


Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY


2013-09-15 06:06:35 PM
1 votes:

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything.


You are thinking too recently.  The Macintosh brought the world (relatively) cheap desktop publishing, and dramatically decreased entry cost for delivering ideas to a broad market, especially in third world countries where it became much easier to challenge the publishing monopoly that was in the hands of governments.

I don't give a rats ass about iCrap, but by getting Steve Wozniak the financial and marketing help he needed to get his computer off the shelves, yeah, Jobs changed the world.
2013-09-15 03:22:13 PM
1 votes:

Smackledorfer: Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities


How about the Jobs family not needing to make a big deal out of it when they donate to charity anonymously.

It's not supposed to be about self aggrandizing.
2013-09-15 03:18:20 PM
1 votes:

Kyosuke: Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?


While I admit correlations don't apply to individuals, generally one can assume that the better dressed, older person is more likely to have more purchasing power.

It only takes a quick look at salary levels and employment figures to see that.  Now, I wouldn't apply that to two real individuals standing side by side, but I don't think it is unfair to do so when we are talking about generalized example characters and those who would be represented as a group by one figure or the other.
2013-09-15 02:37:57 PM
1 votes:

theflatline: Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.


Ballmer and Gates tried to screw Gates' founding partner, Paul Allen, out of shares of Microsoft while he was distracted by his fight against cancer.

None of these guys is the least bit good hearted like Woz.
2013-09-15 02:36:03 PM
1 votes:

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


Oh, c'mon.  I think Jobs was a prick, but I can't deny Apple's influence on how the world perceives and uses technology while under he was at the helm.
2013-09-15 02:21:59 PM
1 votes:

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?


Woz wouldn't have gotten past the garage door without Jobs.

magus007: Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.
2013-09-15 02:11:47 PM
1 votes:
Wait, Microsoft did that?  It looked like something high schoolers would make.
2013-09-15 02:02:43 PM
1 votes:
Bad taste be damned, I'd pull the ad because it was just stupid.  You "pretend" that it's an Apple meeting...but the executive you show has been dead for two years?  Stupid.
2013-09-15 01:55:51 PM
1 votes:

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.


I can't really respect anyone that parks in handicapped spaces because he doesn't want his Porsche dented.
2013-09-15 01:49:02 PM
1 votes:
All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.
2013-09-15 01:45:26 PM
1 votes:
Find a single, commercially successful individual that doesn't have people who hate them.

It goes with the territory.

Money and likeability (not popularity) rarely go hand in hand.
2013-09-15 01:32:08 PM
1 votes:
Damn, that was in far too good taste, if you ask me.

Seeing malnourished, suicidal Chinese teen labour assembling Jobs' iCasket in return for cups of maggotty rice? Now, that's comedy gold!
 
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