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(New York Daily News)   Microsoft admits it might not be tasteful to mock the dead, even if he was a giant douchebag   (nydailynews.com) divider line 109
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2013-09-15 08:55:08 AM
i saw the movie about jobs today. he was a pretty huge douchebag...search your hearts, you know it to be true
 
2013-09-15 09:53:55 AM
Wow this is unbelievable i am teething with rage right now i am so angry

Steve jobs wanted to make people happy that is why he wore a black sweater BECAUSE IT MADE PEOPLE HAPPY

This is the angryest i have ever been.  Not even using a pc has ever made me this angry

I am going to go use my ipad.  BECAUSE IT MAKES ME HAPPY.  BY IDIOTS

Posted from my iPhone
 
2013-09-15 12:47:14 PM
Nah, we only roast the ones we love.

Steve Jobs was buried in the iCoffin. It only comes in white and the warranty is voided as soon as you open the lid.
 
2013-09-15 01:10:37 PM
If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG
 
2013-09-15 01:14:27 PM
Tough shiat
 
2013-09-15 01:18:28 PM
Wah! Wah!
 
2013-09-15 01:19:29 PM
onceuponageek.com
 
2013-09-15 01:32:08 PM
Damn, that was in far too good taste, if you ask me.

Seeing malnourished, suicidal Chinese teen labour assembling Jobs' iCasket in return for cups of maggotty rice? Now, that's comedy gold!
 
2013-09-15 01:38:54 PM
Welcome to the He Man Apple Haters Club.

Yawn.
 
2013-09-15 01:42:46 PM
He's been dead for 2 years.  Let it go.  I feel worse for the actor, being compared to Steve Jobs.
 
2013-09-15 01:45:26 PM
Find a single, commercially successful individual that doesn't have people who hate them.

It goes with the territory.

Money and likeability (not popularity) rarely go hand in hand.
 
2013-09-15 01:49:02 PM
All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.
 
2013-09-15 01:55:51 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.


I can't really respect anyone that parks in handicapped spaces because he doesn't want his Porsche dented.
 
2013-09-15 01:56:53 PM
How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.
 
2013-09-15 02:02:43 PM
Bad taste be damned, I'd pull the ad because it was just stupid.  You "pretend" that it's an Apple meeting...but the executive you show has been dead for two years?  Stupid.
 
2013-09-15 02:11:26 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


This is my opinion as well, kind of interesting how the revered underdog ended up doing nothing that useful, meanwhile the ex-emporer of the evil empire of Microsoft continues to build a lasting legacy of good will and philanthropy.
 
2013-09-15 02:11:47 PM
Wait, Microsoft did that?  It looked like something high schoolers would make.
 
2013-09-15 02:12:04 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.


So did H.. emingway.
 
2013-09-15 02:19:49 PM

BumpInTheNight: magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.

This is my opinion as well, kind of interesting how the revered underdog ended up doing nothing that useful, meanwhile the ex-emporer of the evil empire of Microsoft continues to build a lasting legacy of good will and philanthropy.


Ditto, and I don't hold a thing against Jobs, nor am I as bothered by many that there is a "premium" version of things I like that I would never waste the money on.  Those versions exist in everything from furniture to cars to food, and unlike the hate for apple nobody gets upset over seeing a sports car or a well furnished home.
 
2013-09-15 02:21:59 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?


Woz wouldn't have gotten past the garage door without Jobs.

magus007: Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.
 
2013-09-15 02:25:02 PM

Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.


So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?
 
2013-09-15 02:25:11 PM

Mike_LowELL: Wow this is unbelievable i am teething with rage right now i am so angry


Teething does tend to cause some upset
 
2013-09-15 02:33:42 PM

Smackledorfer: Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.

So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?


Exactly, and Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.
 
2013-09-15 02:33:43 PM

Smackledorfer: So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.


Windows is based on source code stolen from Digital Equipment Corporation. As in pre trial discovery found that the actual source code and comments were identical after Microsoft hired away one of DEC's most important OS designers and his team.

Mac was inspired by the Alto at Xerox PARC which Apple asked permission to see and paid up front for the privilege.

Yea. They are assholes in different ways.
 
2013-09-15 02:34:25 PM
I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.
 
2013-09-15 02:36:03 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


Oh, c'mon.  I think Jobs was a prick, but I can't deny Apple's influence on how the world perceives and uses technology while under he was at the helm.
 
2013-09-15 02:37:21 PM
Oops, remove "under" from that sentence.
 
2013-09-15 02:37:57 PM

theflatline: Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.


Ballmer and Gates tried to screw Gates' founding partner, Paul Allen, out of shares of Microsoft while he was distracted by his fight against cancer.

None of these guys is the least bit good hearted like Woz.
 
2013-09-15 02:45:51 PM
I still think Steve should've named his daughter Blow
 
2013-09-15 02:56:33 PM

doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.


Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

assets.creativity-online.com
 
2013-09-15 02:57:18 PM
iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count
 
2013-09-15 03:00:08 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]


Right...yah...about that...
static.seekingalpha.com
 
2013-09-15 03:01:03 PM

notagraphicartist: iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count


So you are saying that unless I am a billionaire, I can't say Warren Buffet is a better one than, say, a Koch brother?

I mean, I'm sure all you meant to do was find some weird way to get pissy at me for making a judgement, but come on, you can't really believe what you said.

Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities, where do you get off judging me? Surely the same "walk in my boots first" bit must apply there as well, hypocrite.
 
2013-09-15 03:02:14 PM

BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


Good catch- I'd forgetten about that one.
 
2013-09-15 03:02:20 PM
It may not be tasteful. But it sure is fun.
 
2013-09-15 03:03:06 PM
Zombie Jobs is butthurt?
 
2013-09-15 03:03:47 PM

BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?
 
2013-09-15 03:04:03 PM
I never thought this ad was poking fun of Jobs at all.
 
2013-09-15 03:06:05 PM

FunkOut: You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?


That is what I found amusing about the ad.  The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)
 
2013-09-15 03:08:49 PM

Smackledorfer: That is what I found amusing about the ad. The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)


You don't know many people with iPads, then.
 
2013-09-15 03:10:09 PM
BumpInTheNight:
Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


Oh snap!
 
2013-09-15 03:10:33 PM
Mustn't offend the Apple users. They might not buy Microsoft products if you offend them. Is that the logic they're working with?
 
2013-09-15 03:10:47 PM
The iPhone alone is more profitable than all of Microsoft's products and services combined.

In other words, MS is butthurt.

And yes, I am posting this from my iPhone.
 
2013-09-15 03:11:59 PM
Well, I am personally offended.  Roughly 14.6% of my jokes entail mocking the dead.  Is the Internet telling me that I'm not tasteful?
 
2013-09-15 03:13:38 PM

Smackledorfer: FunkOut: You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?

That is what I found amusing about the ad.  The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)


Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?
 
2013-09-15 03:16:02 PM

theorellior: Smackledorfer: That is what I found amusing about the ad. The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)

You don't know many people with iPads, then.


The only people I know with ipads earn six figures.  Of course I'm a loser and don't know all that many people, at least not a huge amount who I pay attention to their tablet purchasing habits. 

That has nothing to do with my commentary on their advertising and who it targets.

AspectRatio: The iPhone alone is more profitable than all of Microsoft's products and services combined.


To expand on that:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/19/apples-iphone-is- no w-worth-more-than-all-of-microsoft/
 
2013-09-15 03:18:20 PM

Kyosuke: Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?


While I admit correlations don't apply to individuals, generally one can assume that the better dressed, older person is more likely to have more purchasing power.

It only takes a quick look at salary levels and employment figures to see that.  Now, I wouldn't apply that to two real individuals standing side by side, but I don't think it is unfair to do so when we are talking about generalized example characters and those who would be represented as a group by one figure or the other.
 
2013-09-15 03:20:31 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]

Good catch- I'd forgetten about that one.


There are plenty of examples from the 80s and 90s as well, taking aim at IBM PC users, Microsoft, and even Intel (way back before Apple started using Intel processors).
 
2013-09-15 03:22:13 PM

Smackledorfer: Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities


How about the Jobs family not needing to make a big deal out of it when they donate to charity anonymously.

It's not supposed to be about self aggrandizing.
 
2013-09-15 03:27:34 PM

Smackledorfer: notagraphicartist: iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count

So you are saying that unless I am a billionaire, I can't say Warren Buffet is a better one than, say, a Koch brother?

I mean, I'm sure all you meant to do was find some weird way to get pissy at me for making a judgement, but come on, you can't really believe what you said.

Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities, where do you get off judging me? Surely the same "walk in my boots first" bit must apply there as well, hypocrite.


I judged you calling out one man for not - as far as any of us know - giving as much to charity as another man. Judged you and found you to be a jackass,

And hell yes I'm a hypocrite - I rail against animal cruelty - and buy my beef and pork and eggs and chicken at the supermarket. I rail against low wages and poor working conditions - and gripe when the price of tomatoes goes up. Never mind filling the tank on my F250 - but never at BP or Exxon.
What I don't do though - is judge someone else on how much they give to charity in comparison to how much someone else gives.

I leave that for YOUR flavor of hypocrisy.
 
2013-09-15 03:29:05 PM

Smackledorfer: Kyosuke: Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?

While I admit correlations don't apply to individuals, generally one can assume that the better dressed, older person is more likely to have more purchasing power.

It only takes a quick look at salary levels and employment figures to see that.  Now, I wouldn't apply that to two real individuals standing side by side, but I don't think it is unfair to do so when we are talking about generalized example characters and those who would be represented as a group by one figure or the other.


It's all about discretionary spending budgets. I see a guy on the left stuck in some back-room cubical job with student loans, a wife and kid(s), above-average amounts of credit card interest, etc. I see a guy on the right who makes smarter financial decisions, isn't burdened with debt interest, is less interested in spending money to impress others, etc.

The guy on the right has the budget available for nicer things. That's the market to pursue.
 
2013-09-15 03:36:22 PM

Smackledorfer: The only people I know with ipads earn six figures.


And they all wear brown suits with no ties, right?
 
2013-09-15 03:40:32 PM
To idiots who say, "whatever you think of Steve Jobs, you have to admit he changed the world":

Everything you hate about the world; everything evil; everything depressing and sad was done by people who changed the world.

Except getting the shiats just before a job interview: that was invented by the jalfresi you had the night before.
 
2013-09-15 05:19:07 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:


Did you miss the whole "I'm a Mac" commercial series? Apple did a great job of making their product look awful.
 
2013-09-15 05:41:51 PM
I mocked him when he was alive. Not gonna stop now that he's dead.
img7.imageshack.us
 
2013-09-15 05:52:40 PM

red5ish: I mocked him when he was alive. Not gonna stop now that he's dead.
[img7.imageshack.us image 318x414]


You have to admit, that turtleneck looks kind of..

images2.wikia.nocookie.net

tactical.
 
2013-09-15 05:57:59 PM

Tourney3p0: scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

So did H.. emingway.


I reich what you did there ;)
 
2013-09-15 06:06:35 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything.


You are thinking too recently.  The Macintosh brought the world (relatively) cheap desktop publishing, and dramatically decreased entry cost for delivering ideas to a broad market, especially in third world countries where it became much easier to challenge the publishing monopoly that was in the hands of governments.

I don't give a rats ass about iCrap, but by getting Steve Wozniak the financial and marketing help he needed to get his computer off the shelves, yeah, Jobs changed the world.
 
2013-09-15 06:11:03 PM

RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG


Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY


 
2013-09-15 06:15:16 PM
Lame commercial, but not insulting to anyone.
 
2013-09-15 06:21:46 PM

red5ish: I mocked him when he was alive. Not gonna stop now that he's dead.
[img7.imageshack.us image 318x414]


You do realize that this actually tells everyone a lot more about you than it does the dead person you're mocking?
 
2013-09-15 06:26:30 PM

technoblogical: RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG

Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY


Tell ya what, send me your email address, twitter account, and phone number, and I'll pass all my decisions by you in the future to make sure they pass muster.

The YouTube link in the article was sent a takedown notice and so the video was removed.

I found the video and uploaded it to a site that makes it trivial to upload videos and one that is more obscure than YouTube so that it would not be taken down as quickly.

Next time, I'll do as you suggest and upload it right back to YouTube so that will make its takedown easy and YouTube has already removed the video in question at least once...  It seems like a dumb site to upload it to, but it's worth it to get your approval.
 
2013-09-15 06:27:26 PM

BullBearMS: Smackledorfer: Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities

How about the Jobs family not needing to make a big deal out of it when they donate to charity anonymously.

It's not supposed to be about self aggrandizing.


Not a fan of the Gates Foundation?

Making a good charity a non-anonymous thing helps other people add to it, like Warren Buffet who matched Gates 1 for 1.
 
2013-09-15 06:28:39 PM

notagraphicartist: I leave that for YOUR flavor of hypocrisy.


How superior of you.

Also you might want to learn the definition of Hypocrite.  It is not hypocritical to be a non-billionaire and ask billionaires to behave a certain way.

Why are so many people so seemingly incapable of learning that word?
 
2013-09-15 06:39:39 PM
Yeah and if they tried airing that sort of crap in the UK you'd get the advertising standards people on you pretty quickly.

You can't run an American style attack ad, it has to be your product doing it's thing.   We even made them add little text to the iPhone adverts that it may not necessarily be as fast as was demonstrated due to 3G limitations.

We generally didn't get the I'm a Mac adverts in the same form you guys did either.

/Plays Socialism card.
 
2013-09-15 06:51:06 PM
Creepy, that the somewhat scummy CEO of a company is now right up there with Elvis when it comes to "morbid post-death cult-like followings." If you've ever seen the Graceland candlelight vigil, held every year on the anniversary of his death, and listen to the bizarre conversations from folks that have essentially turned a drug-addled musician past his prime into a demi-god, it's not that much different than listening to rabid Apple fans frothing at the mouth because someone poked at their demi-god.
 
2013-09-15 07:00:11 PM

FormlessOne: Creepy, that the somewhat scummy CEO of a company is now right up there with Elvis when it comes to "morbid post-death cult-like followings." If you've ever seen the Graceland candlelight vigil, held every year on the anniversary of his death, and listen to the bizarre conversations from folks that have essentially turned a drug-addled musician past his prime into a demi-god, it's not that much different than listening to rabid Apple fans frothing at the mouth because someone poked at their demi-god.


Show me on the doll where Jobs touched you.   Did you like it?  I bet you did.
 
2013-09-15 07:04:56 PM

Smackledorfer: BullBearMS: Smackledorfer: Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities

How about the Jobs family not needing to make a big deal out of it when they donate to charity anonymously.

It's not supposed to be about self aggrandizing.

Not a fan of the Gates Foundation?

Making a good charity a non-anonymous thing helps other people add to it, like Warren Buffet who matched Gates 1 for 1.


Plus, it isn't like Bill Gates is going to be able to create a foundation called the Gates Foundation and not draw attention to it.
 
2013-09-15 07:15:36 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. MelindaGates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


Fixed. Before he got married, Bill's idea of charity was "donating" Windows PC's and software to schools, back when Apple still dominated the education market.
 
2013-09-15 07:19:59 PM

AspectRatio: The iPhone alone is more profitable than all of Microsoft's products and services combined.

In other words, MS is butthurt.


No. Microsoft may not have the profit margin that Apple has, but they are still a hugely profitable company with mature products. At the financial company I worked at, I can't remember one time where I saw any recommendation that MS' stock was anything but a buy.

And in case you missed it, shortly after Apple released its latest iPhones, the price of the stock dropped. And honestly aside from the color schemes and the inexpensive iPhone there's really nothing special about the latest releases. Fingerprint security? Not a big deal.
 
2013-09-15 07:22:39 PM

Born to Die: magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world? Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. MelindaGates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.

Fixed. Before he got married, Bill's idea of charity was "donating" Windows PC's and software to schools, back when Apple still dominated the education market.


I know, it's from all the billions she made doing what again?
 
2013-09-15 07:33:50 PM

skinink: they are still a hugely profitable company with mature products.


The Zune and Windows 8 would like a word with you...
 
2013-09-15 07:38:37 PM

Smackledorfer: The only people I know with ipads earn six figures.  Of course I'm a loser and don't know all that many people, at least not a huge amount who I pay attention to their tablet purchasing habits.


You must know about 10 people.  I can't count the number of people i know earning low-to-mid five figures who have iPads, iMacs, iPhones, iCraps, iDongles, etc.  Not knowing that many people who own a certain item doesn't mean you're better, or that the item is overpriced and/or crappy, it means you're sheltered.
 
2013-09-15 07:43:22 PM

skinink: And honestly aside from the color schemes and the inexpensive iPhone there's really nothing special about the latest releases


michaelfyvie.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-15 07:46:09 PM
LeoffDaGrate:
 I can't count the number of people i know earning low-to-mid five figures who have iPads, iMacs, iPhones, iCraps, iDongles, etc.

There's no way the number is more than a couple dozen.  My four year old nephew can at least count to a hundred.
 
2013-09-15 07:47:04 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.


Bullshiat.  I don't have to respect someone who is a giant douchbag.
 
2013-09-15 07:58:22 PM

Tourney3p0: LeoffDaGrate:
 I can't count the number of people i know earning low-to-mid five figures who have iPads, iMacs, iPhones, iCraps, iDongles, etc.

There's no way the number is more than a couple dozen.  My four year old nephew can at least count to a hundred.


Hint: "I can't count [blank]" is an idiom. And yes, even I know more than a hundred people with iCrap, with most of them having little extra cash for much else (Full Disclosure: Half of them relatives, in that one lower-middle class family will have 7 iProducts).
 
2013-09-15 07:59:53 PM
New Farkin User Name:

Hint: "I can't count [blank]" is an idiom. And yes, even I know more than a hundred people with iCrap, with most of them having little extra cash for much else (Full Disclosure: Half of them relatives, in that one lower-middle class family will have 7 iProducts).

No, I get it.  You can't count to 140 or whatever.  Pretty much none of us can.
 
2013-09-15 08:02:52 PM

Warlordtrooper: scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.

Bullshiat.  I don't have to respect someone who is a giant douchbag.


He was funny in That 70's Show.
 
2013-09-15 08:37:42 PM
I watched it. The ad wasn't mocking Jobs, it was mocking the new iPhones. And they have it coming.
 
2013-09-15 08:40:27 PM

LeoffDaGrate: skinink: they are still a hugely profitable company with mature products.

The Zune and Windows 8 would like a word with you...


What are you talking about? Windows OS, server software, Office and XBox still make a ton of money for the company. Not sure what you mean by bringing up Zune or W8. Even Google doesn't churn out all money making products.
 
2013-09-15 08:52:33 PM
Looks like Windows is hiring douchebags to do their advertising lately. The Surface vs. iPad ad is 50% lies and 50% teenage sneering. Pathetic.
 
2013-09-15 08:55:33 PM

scotchcrotch: Find a single, commercially successful individual that doesn't have people who hate them.

It goes with the territory.

Money and likeability (not popularity) rarely go hand in hand.


Jim Henson?
 
2013-09-15 09:10:18 PM
I will never feel at ease until we find the bones and burn them.
 
2013-09-15 09:14:55 PM
The biggest gripe that viewers had was the depiction of a fictional executive who looked suspiciously like the late Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

They called him "T" at one point.  Unless Steve Jobs had some nicknames I don't know about, that was probably short for Tim (Cook).

/ Not that I blame anybody for not watching it long enough to catch that.  It was a pretty stupid commercial.
 
2013-09-15 09:28:14 PM
I like what Orson Welles* said: 'I only speak ill of the dead.'  It makes a lot of sense

*a giant douchebag himself
 
2013-09-15 09:34:47 PM
He was just a guy.  Now he's a long dead guy.  Stop sucking his dick already.
 
2013-09-15 09:35:06 PM
I've seen this ad and I didn't find it 1 bit offensive to anyone.
 
2013-09-15 09:46:25 PM

Pardon Me Sultan: red5ish: I mocked him when he was alive. Not gonna stop now that he's dead.
[img7.imageshack.us image 318x414]

You do realize that this actually tells everyone a lot more about you than it does the dead person you're mocking?

 
2013-09-15 09:49:01 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-09-15 10:04:10 PM
Forget Jobs and Gates.  That chick is hot!

Yellow + Phone....rhymes with.....telephone.

Just do me already.
 
2013-09-15 10:16:57 PM
doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

The Windows 8 UI is nearly identical to the Windows 7 UI.
 
2013-09-15 10:27:50 PM

skinink: LeoffDaGrate: skinink: they are still a hugely profitable company with mature products.

The Zune and Windows 8 would like a word with you...

What are you talking about? Windows OS, server software, Office and XBox still make a ton of money for the company. Not sure what you mean by bringing up Zune or W8. Even Google doesn't churn out all money making products.


What the hell are YOU talking about?  You said "mature" products.  I even bolded it for you.  The Zune and Windows 8, not to mention their excuse of a tablet, are anything but mature.  They're either crap, knock-offs, or just lazy mimics of other companies creations.
 
2013-09-15 10:54:08 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.


I respect him just because he's banging this:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-16 12:07:22 AM
That looked nothing like Steve Jobs. It looks like Tim Cook.
 
2013-09-16 12:45:26 AM
does it matter? microsoft's creative advertising efforts have sucked for years

their best money spent is always flooding people with brain-dead commercials
 
2013-09-16 01:29:51 AM
So wait.  You're telling people are upset at  Microsoft for gently mocking the iconic head of a technology company?  I guess Microsoft just remembered all the times it happened to them (remember the late 90s, before Bill Gates decided to buy his way into heaven) and thought it was okay.
 
2013-09-16 08:56:11 AM
If he was worthy of mockery in life, then he remains so in death.
 
2013-09-16 09:08:53 AM

RoyBatty: technoblogical: RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG

Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY

Tell ya what, send me your email address, twitter account, and phone number, and I'll pass all my decisions by you in the future to make sure they pass muster.

The YouTube link in the article was sent a takedown notice and so the video was removed.

I found the video and uploaded it to a site that makes it trivial to upload videos and one that is more obscure than YouTube so that it would not be taken down as quickly.

Next time, I'll do as you suggest and upload it right back to YouTube so that will make its takedown easy and YouTube has already removed the video in question at least once...  It seems like a dumb site to upload it to, but it's worth it to get your approval.


Or you could have taken three seconds to type "fly on the wall microsoft" into the youtube search bar and linked to one of the other copies that are still up.

But I know, youtube sucks, just like ebay and facebook.
 
2013-09-16 10:25:58 AM
FTFA: The look-alike is only seen from the background, but he is wearing Jobs' signature black t-shirt.

Err... wasn't Jobs' signature shirt a black turtleneck?
 
2013-09-16 10:29:07 AM

AdamK: does it matter? microsoft's creative advertising efforts have sucked for years

their best money spent is always flooding people with brain-dead commercials


Yup.  The best feature that apple products have over competitor products is that each and every one comes with a great commercial that makes you feel hip, savy and sexy because you own a device with such great advertising.

Microsoft on the other hand can't seem to brand themselves or their products at all.  Their ad copy falls flat and they basically kill great products by poorly communicating them to the masses.
 
2013-09-16 10:49:59 AM

Egoy3k: AdamK: does it matter? microsoft's creative advertising efforts have sucked for years

their best money spent is always flooding people with brain-dead commercials

Yup.  The best feature that apple products have over competitor products is that each and every one comes with a great commercial that makes you feel hip, savy and sexy because you own a device with such great advertising.

Microsoft on the other hand can't seem to brand themselves or their products at all.  Their ad copy falls flat and they basically kill great products by poorly communicating them to the masses.


The last time MS had a great product was when Windows 7 launched.
 
2013-09-16 01:20:13 PM

Great_Milenko: RoyBatty: technoblogical: RoyBatty: If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG

Next time, could you try linking to a LESS shiatTY SITE?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWxv2LuGTKY

Tell ya what, send me your email address, twitter account, and phone number, and I'll pass all my decisions by you in the future to make sure they pass muster.

The YouTube link in the article was sent a takedown notice and so the video was removed.

I found the video and uploaded it to a site that makes it trivial to upload videos and one that is more obscure than YouTube so that it would not be taken down as quickly.

Next time, I'll do as you suggest and upload it right back to YouTube so that will make its takedown easy and YouTube has already removed the video in question at least once...  It seems like a dumb site to upload it to, but it's worth it to get your approval.

Or you could have taken three seconds to type "fly on the wall microsoft" into the youtube search bar and linked to one of the other copies that are still up.

But I know, youtube sucks, just like ebay and facebook.


What a moron.

I actually found the video, just as you suggested dumbass.

I then downloaded it, and made it available on a site other than YouTube, not because YouTube (and ebay and facebook) suck, but because YouTube was almost certainly going to take down this video faster than vbam. It's called not putting all your ducks in one basket. And redundancy.

Then having linked to that, technoblogical and you start giving me shiat because whatever the fark I did wasn't according to your preferences.

Eat a bag of dicks.
 
2013-09-16 02:03:24 PM
Hey, remember three years ago when Microsoft had a funeral for the iPhone because Windows Phone 7 was so freakin' awesome? And then they did the Thriller dance?

cdn-static.zdnet.com
 
2013-09-16 02:36:17 PM

HeartBurnKid: Egoy3k: AdamK: does it matter? microsoft's creative advertising efforts have sucked for years

their best money spent is always flooding people with brain-dead commercials

Yup.  The best feature that apple products have over competitor products is that each and every one comes with a great commercial that makes you feel hip, savy and sexy because you own a device with such great advertising.

Microsoft on the other hand can't seem to brand themselves or their products at all.  Their ad copy falls flat and they basically kill great products by poorly communicating them to the masses.

The last time MS had a great product was when Windows 7 launched.


The surface pro is great.
Windows 8 is great.
The original Xbone might have been great.

All of these products were killed by MS's crappy marketing and not due to any inherent flaws (with the exception of the XBone since we didn't actually get to see it before they changed it)
 
2013-09-16 02:40:45 PM
scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.


He didn't change dick.
 
2013-09-16 02:56:49 PM

Egoy3k: The surface pro is great.


Nope.

Egoy3k: Windows 8 is great.


Still nope.

Egoy3k: The original Xbone might have been great.


And once again, nope.
 
2013-09-16 03:44:54 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.


I am impressed with some of the things he did, but no, I don't have to respect him.
 
2013-09-17 12:47:26 AM

Smackledorfer: Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.

So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?


If only someone invented a way to search the Internet to find out these answers instead of falling victim to the "if I didn't hear about it, therefore it didn't happen" fallacy.
 
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