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(New York Daily News)   Microsoft admits it might not be tasteful to mock the dead, even if he was a giant douchebag   (nydailynews.com) divider line 109
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2013-09-15 08:55:08 AM
i saw the movie about jobs today. he was a pretty huge douchebag...search your hearts, you know it to be true
 
2013-09-15 09:53:55 AM
Wow this is unbelievable i am teething with rage right now i am so angry

Steve jobs wanted to make people happy that is why he wore a black sweater BECAUSE IT MADE PEOPLE HAPPY

This is the angryest i have ever been.  Not even using a pc has ever made me this angry

I am going to go use my ipad.  BECAUSE IT MAKES ME HAPPY.  BY IDIOTS

Posted from my iPhone
 
2013-09-15 12:47:14 PM
Nah, we only roast the ones we love.

Steve Jobs was buried in the iCoffin. It only comes in white and the warranty is voided as soon as you open the lid.
 
2013-09-15 01:10:37 PM
If you can't find the video, it seems to be here at the moment:  http://videobam.com/EGYPG
 
2013-09-15 01:14:27 PM
Tough shiat
 
2013-09-15 01:18:28 PM
Wah! Wah!
 
2013-09-15 01:19:29 PM
onceuponageek.com
 
2013-09-15 01:32:08 PM
Damn, that was in far too good taste, if you ask me.

Seeing malnourished, suicidal Chinese teen labour assembling Jobs' iCasket in return for cups of maggotty rice? Now, that's comedy gold!
 
2013-09-15 01:38:54 PM
Welcome to the He Man Apple Haters Club.

Yawn.
 
2013-09-15 01:42:46 PM
He's been dead for 2 years.  Let it go.  I feel worse for the actor, being compared to Steve Jobs.
 
2013-09-15 01:45:26 PM
Find a single, commercially successful individual that doesn't have people who hate them.

It goes with the territory.

Money and likeability (not popularity) rarely go hand in hand.
 
2013-09-15 01:49:02 PM
All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.
 
2013-09-15 01:55:51 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.

Ashton Kutcher on the other hand...some people may like but I doubt anyone respects.


I can't really respect anyone that parks in handicapped spaces because he doesn't want his Porsche dented.
 
2013-09-15 01:56:53 PM
How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.
 
2013-09-15 02:02:43 PM
Bad taste be damned, I'd pull the ad because it was just stupid.  You "pretend" that it's an Apple meeting...but the executive you show has been dead for two years?  Stupid.
 
2013-09-15 02:11:26 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


This is my opinion as well, kind of interesting how the revered underdog ended up doing nothing that useful, meanwhile the ex-emporer of the evil empire of Microsoft continues to build a lasting legacy of good will and philanthropy.
 
2013-09-15 02:11:47 PM
Wait, Microsoft did that?  It looked like something high schoolers would make.
 
2013-09-15 02:12:04 PM

scotchcrotch: All things said, Steve Jobs changed the world. You may not like him, but you have to respect him.


So did H.. emingway.
 
2013-09-15 02:19:49 PM

BumpInTheNight: magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.

This is my opinion as well, kind of interesting how the revered underdog ended up doing nothing that useful, meanwhile the ex-emporer of the evil empire of Microsoft continues to build a lasting legacy of good will and philanthropy.


Ditto, and I don't hold a thing against Jobs, nor am I as bothered by many that there is a "premium" version of things I like that I would never waste the money on.  Those versions exist in everything from furniture to cars to food, and unlike the hate for apple nobody gets upset over seeing a sports car or a well furnished home.
 
2013-09-15 02:21:59 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?


Woz wouldn't have gotten past the garage door without Jobs.

magus007: Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.
 
2013-09-15 02:25:02 PM

Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.


So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?
 
2013-09-15 02:25:11 PM

Mike_LowELL: Wow this is unbelievable i am teething with rage right now i am so angry


Teething does tend to cause some upset
 
2013-09-15 02:33:42 PM

Smackledorfer: Kyosuke: He can attempt to cleans his soul all he wants, but it will never be clean.

So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.  Every business that can pull it off does the same outsourcing for slave wages and deliberate monopolizing.  I don't pay a huge amount of attention to that, so if Jobs is a business ethics saint, feel free to give me the run-down.

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?


Exactly, and Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.
 
2013-09-15 02:33:43 PM

Smackledorfer: So you believe Jobs' soul is cleaner than Gates'?

I don't see any difference between the two in terms of running their businesses, tbh.


Windows is based on source code stolen from Digital Equipment Corporation. As in pre trial discovery found that the actual source code and comments were identical after Microsoft hired away one of DEC's most important OS designers and his team.

Mac was inspired by the Alto at Xerox PARC which Apple asked permission to see and paid up front for the privilege.

Yea. They are assholes in different ways.
 
2013-09-15 02:34:25 PM
I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.
 
2013-09-15 02:36:03 PM

magus007: How the fark did Steve Jobs change the world?  Flooding the world with overpriced, unoriginal, but well designed toys is not going to change anything. Gates on the other hand is changing the world removing mosquito from Africa.


Oh, c'mon.  I think Jobs was a prick, but I can't deny Apple's influence on how the world perceives and uses technology while under he was at the helm.
 
2013-09-15 02:37:21 PM
Oops, remove "under" from that sentence.
 
2013-09-15 02:37:57 PM

theflatline: Jobs had to to be sued to admit paternity and cough up some cash to his daughter.


Ballmer and Gates tried to screw Gates' founding partner, Paul Allen, out of shares of Microsoft while he was distracted by his fight against cancer.

None of these guys is the least bit good hearted like Woz.
 
2013-09-15 02:45:51 PM
I still think Steve should've named his daughter Blow
 
2013-09-15 02:56:33 PM

doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.


Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

assets.creativity-online.com
 
2013-09-15 02:57:18 PM
iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count
 
2013-09-15 03:00:08 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]


Right...yah...about that...
static.seekingalpha.com
 
2013-09-15 03:01:03 PM

notagraphicartist: iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count


So you are saying that unless I am a billionaire, I can't say Warren Buffet is a better one than, say, a Koch brother?

I mean, I'm sure all you meant to do was find some weird way to get pissy at me for making a judgement, but come on, you can't really believe what you said.

Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities, where do you get off judging me? Surely the same "walk in my boots first" bit must apply there as well, hypocrite.
 
2013-09-15 03:02:14 PM

BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


Good catch- I'd forgetten about that one.
 
2013-09-15 03:02:20 PM
It may not be tasteful. But it sure is fun.
 
2013-09-15 03:03:06 PM
Zombie Jobs is butthurt?
 
2013-09-15 03:03:47 PM

BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?
 
2013-09-15 03:04:03 PM
I never thought this ad was poking fun of Jobs at all.
 
2013-09-15 03:06:05 PM

FunkOut: You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?


That is what I found amusing about the ad.  The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)
 
2013-09-15 03:08:49 PM

Smackledorfer: That is what I found amusing about the ad. The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)


You don't know many people with iPads, then.
 
2013-09-15 03:10:09 PM
BumpInTheNight:
Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]


Oh snap!
 
2013-09-15 03:10:33 PM
Mustn't offend the Apple users. They might not buy Microsoft products if you offend them. Is that the logic they're working with?
 
2013-09-15 03:10:47 PM
The iPhone alone is more profitable than all of Microsoft's products and services combined.

In other words, MS is butthurt.

And yes, I am posting this from my iPhone.
 
2013-09-15 03:11:59 PM
Well, I am personally offended.  Roughly 14.6% of my jokes entail mocking the dead.  Is the Internet telling me that I'm not tasteful?
 
2013-09-15 03:13:38 PM

Smackledorfer: FunkOut: You marry the one on the left and hire the one on the right to mow your lawn?

That is what I found amusing about the ad.  The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)


Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?
 
2013-09-15 03:16:02 PM

theorellior: Smackledorfer: That is what I found amusing about the ad. The character least capable of affording the premium product is the one they market to :)

You don't know many people with iPads, then.


The only people I know with ipads earn six figures.  Of course I'm a loser and don't know all that many people, at least not a huge amount who I pay attention to their tablet purchasing habits. 

That has nothing to do with my commentary on their advertising and who it targets.

AspectRatio: The iPhone alone is more profitable than all of Microsoft's products and services combined.


To expand on that:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/19/apples-iphone-is- no w-worth-more-than-all-of-microsoft/
 
2013-09-15 03:18:20 PM

Kyosuke: Why do you assume the one on the left has more purchasing power than the one on the right?


While I admit correlations don't apply to individuals, generally one can assume that the better dressed, older person is more likely to have more purchasing power.

It only takes a quick look at salary levels and employment figures to see that.  Now, I wouldn't apply that to two real individuals standing side by side, but I don't think it is unfair to do so when we are talking about generalized example characters and those who would be represented as a group by one figure or the other.
 
2013-09-15 03:20:31 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: BumpInTheNight: Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: doloresonthedottedline: I honestly have no opinion of the Windows phone stuff, other than my reflexive hate for the UI instilled by Windows 8, but damn they have shiatty ads.

Tell me why your product is GOOD. Not why everything else is bad. And for the love of god, don't try to show trendy young people doing a dance routine in a business meeting to imply how good your product is.

Ever notice the difference between Coca-Cola and Pepsi's advertisements? Pepsi always compares itself to Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola doesn't compare itself to any competitor.

The relationship between Apple and, well, pretty much every Apple competitor is very similar. Whether or not Apple really makes a better product than their competitors is irrelevant. Apple doesn't feel the need to convince you that they do. Their competitors, OTOH:

[assets.creativity-online.com image 400x237]

Right...yah...about that...
[static.seekingalpha.com image 384x434]

Good catch- I'd forgetten about that one.


There are plenty of examples from the 80s and 90s as well, taking aim at IBM PC users, Microsoft, and even Intel (way back before Apple started using Intel processors).
 
2013-09-15 03:22:13 PM

Smackledorfer: Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities


How about the Jobs family not needing to make a big deal out of it when they donate to charity anonymously.

It's not supposed to be about self aggrandizing.
 
2013-09-15 03:27:34 PM

Smackledorfer: notagraphicartist: iSmackledorfer: ......

Meanwhile, did Jobs do anything approaching the Gates Foundation?  What were his comparable charitable works for the betterment of society?

I think the rule should be - IF you have given billions to charity, then - and only then, do you get to call someone out for NOT giving billions to charity.

I'm sure Jobs was a jackass. I'm sure Gates and Ellison are jackasses. Its a prereq for being billionaire.
But talking shiat because Jobs didn't consult YOU about how to spend his money - well - it kinda makes you a jackass too.
Just not one with a billion dollars.

/I'm thinking you probably have NOT given billions to charity
//Charity - the ugly asian dwarf down at your local run-n-tug doesn't count

So you are saying that unless I am a billionaire, I can't say Warren Buffet is a better one than, say, a Koch brother?

I mean, I'm sure all you meant to do was find some weird way to get pissy at me for making a judgement, but come on, you can't really believe what you said.

Hell, if I can't compare wealthy men's contributions to charities, where do you get off judging me? Surely the same "walk in my boots first" bit must apply there as well, hypocrite.


I judged you calling out one man for not - as far as any of us know - giving as much to charity as another man. Judged you and found you to be a jackass,

And hell yes I'm a hypocrite - I rail against animal cruelty - and buy my beef and pork and eggs and chicken at the supermarket. I rail against low wages and poor working conditions - and gripe when the price of tomatoes goes up. Never mind filling the tank on my F250 - but never at BP or Exxon.
What I don't do though - is judge someone else on how much they give to charity in comparison to how much someone else gives.

I leave that for YOUR flavor of hypocrisy.
 
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