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2013-09-14 10:41:38 PM
No defense.  They've taken half of the game away.
 
2013-09-14 10:55:23 PM
Johnny Manziel may have his issues off the field, but the kid can play ball.

That said, Roll Tide!!
 
2013-09-14 10:58:31 PM

goldwarbird: Johnny Manziel may have his issues off the field, but the kid can play ball.

That said, Roll Tide!!


What's his GPA?
 
2013-09-14 11:18:07 PM
Fun game to watch.
 
2013-09-14 11:35:37 PM
 
2013-09-15 12:27:14 AM

2wolves: goldwarbird: Johnny Manziel may have his issues off the field, but the kid can play ball.

That said, Roll Tide!!

What's his GPA?


Whatever a first round draft pick makes under the CBA
 
2013-09-15 12:29:23 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.
 
2013-09-15 12:40:20 AM

Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.


Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.
 
2013-09-15 12:44:42 AM
These 'targeting' penalties are freaking terrible.  I like the idea of the rule, but enforcement has been terrible and it is negatively affecting the game.
 
2013-09-15 12:59:09 AM

SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.


That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.
 
2013-09-15 01:11:06 AM

degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.


At the risk of crossing the memes, Manziel reminds me a lot of Favre.  He can run and pass but he also has that degree of insanity some amazing and amazingly bad plays.  He's like a kid out there.  He's just having fun.
 
2013-09-15 01:28:51 AM

Mentat: degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.

At the risk of crossing the memes, Manziel reminds me a lot of Favre.  He can run and pass but he also has that degree of insanity some amazing and amazingly bad plays.  He's like a kid out there.  He's just having fun.


His issue will be maturity. He can be good at the next level if he doesn't turn into Matt Leinert with his focus being on the off field stuff.
 
2013-09-15 01:33:47 AM

AliceBToklasLives: 2wolves: goldwarbird: Johnny Manziel may have his issues off the field, but the kid can play ball.

That said, Roll Tide!!

What's his GPA?

Whatever a first round draft pick makes under the CBA


Really? I don't see him going in the first round, he's a smaller version of teeblow with a slightly better throwing motion and gets away with lucky throws.
 
2013-09-15 01:36:00 AM

AliceBToklasLives: 2wolves: goldwarbird: Johnny Manziel may have his issues off the field, but the kid can play ball.

That said, Roll Tide!!

What's his GPA?

Whatever a first round draft pick makes under the CBA


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2013-09-15 01:39:26 AM

alwaysjaded: Manziel was just missing a little something extra on those throws...

Awesome game.


At least Ocho Cinco was somewhat entertaining with his antics (except for his latest one that landed him in jail and towards divorce court).  This Manziel kid just acts like a d-bag.
 
2013-09-15 02:10:59 AM
I think Alabama would have been lucky to get out of there within 10 points losing to TAM, never mind winning the damn thing. Wow.

Texas A&M is like a rattlesnake, you can't just cut off the head, you have to grind it to paste.

I felt bad for the TAM defensive man penalized for playing after his helmet fell off, just like I felt bad for the Alabama man who horse-collared Mr. Manziel.
 
2013-09-15 03:38:19 AM

2wolves: No defense.  They've taken half of the game away.


Given how that one Bama player was nearly ejected for bumping into an A&M receiver while going for the ball, I have to suspect that the refs were under orders to keep it interesting.

Still glad A&M got that pointless touchdown with 15 seconds left to cover the spread.
 
2013-09-15 04:37:44 AM

alwaysjaded: Manziel was just missing a little something extra on those throws...

Awesome game.


That is awesome.
 
2013-09-15 07:54:49 AM
562 yards against that alabama defense by one player? Just doesnt happen
 
2013-09-15 08:06:30 AM

Mentat: degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.

At the risk of crossing the memes, Manziel reminds me a lot of Favre.  He can run and pass but he also has that degree of insanity some amazing and amazingly bad plays.  He's like a kid out there.  He's just having fun.


Now that you mention it...That early interception he threw in the end zone when A&M had all the momentum and seemed on the verge of running away with it was extremely Favrian.  A classic "WTF was he THINKING?!?" mistake that cost his team big-time in the midst of an otherwise very good performance.
 
2013-09-15 08:26:12 AM

degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.


I'm not sure if you're implying that they were wrong about Newton or if you're using Newton as an example showing why that's true of Manziel as well.  Manziel's a smaller, less talented, possibly smarter (but not by much) version of Newton.
 
2013-09-15 08:45:47 AM
No I had -7.5. Assholes
 
2013-09-15 08:51:26 AM

AdmirableSnackbar: degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.

I'm not sure if you're implying that they were wrong about Newton or if you're using Newton as an example showing why that's true of Manziel as well.  Manziel's a smaller, less talented, possibly smarter (but not by much) version of Newton.


You can search through the Cam Newton thread history and find my name attached to a lot - a LOT - of vitriol about the Panthers owner drafting him.  I will fully admit I was wrong about Cam Newton; he's got a lot of development that still needs to happen, and I'm beginning to think Rivera and Shula aren't the coaches to bring him to fruition.  He will improve as the new GM patches the holes left by Marty Hurney's dumpster fire.

As for Manziel, he could be a really good NFL QB - he's got an arm, but so did guys like Jeff George.  QBs need one of two things - either downfield vision, or the ability to avoid getting hit until an option opens up.  There are a number of schemes NFL coaches can employ to assist that.  Remember when Mike Shanahan and Jake Plummer hosted an AFC championship game in 2005?  Plummer had a career year because Shanahan emphasized bootlegs and play-action designed to push all the receivers to one side of the field.  If you find the right percentage of pass plays where you narrow the field, you can compensate for a QB's limited downfield vision (it's harder to figure out if he's staring down a receiver when there all on one line of sight.

Manziel looked downright McNabbian on that one pass play, even though his receiver bailed him out of an almost certain INT.  It sort of balances out the one tip drill INT which wasn't really Johnny's fault.  But Manziel needs to work on not staring down receivers, and make better judgements on where to throw the ball.  I know, it's easy for an armchair historianalyst to say that, but with time he could improve in those areas - the problem is, he may not survive in college long enough to be NFL-ready, and if he goes early and gets thrown into game situations without proper development, he's going to be a higher-profile Pat White.
 
2013-09-15 09:13:58 AM
I hate that all the headlines read "Manziel still awesome, also the other team won."
 
2013-09-15 09:25:16 AM

2wolves: What's his GPA?


He's an Aggie -- he's required to take a semester of anatomy and a semester of geology just so he can learn to tell his ass from a hole in the ground.
 
2013-09-15 09:32:02 AM

ModernPrimitive01: I hate that all the headlines read "Manziel still awesome, also the other team won."


In his defense he was carrying his entire team on his back

A&M couldn't establish a running game besides quarterback scramble and the offensive line held the pocket for like 2 seconds on any passing play where the receivers were covered for 4+

Manziel might be an assclown but he carried all the load yesterday. Alabama could run the ball at will for 7-10 yards with a&m stacking 9 guys in the box.
 
2013-09-15 09:32:56 AM

stoli n coke: 2wolves: No defense.  They've taken half of the game away.

Given how that one Bama player was nearly ejected for bumping into an A&M receiver while going for the ball, I have to suspect that the refs were under orders to keep it interesting.

Still glad A&M got that pointless touchdown with 15 seconds left to cover the spread.


The rule states when in doubt it is a foul. It is very poorly written. While the ejection can be overturned the foul can not be which is stupid.
 
2013-09-15 11:55:53 AM

degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.


There was never any doubt about Cam's talent. The guy has plenty of talent. The people that questioned his talent ones were the ones using it as an excuse because they were scared of his off the field issues
 
2013-09-15 12:31:23 PM

UNC_Samurai: AdmirableSnackbar: degenerate-afro: SuperT: Elvis Presleys Death Throne: I'm so tired of hearing about Johnny Whogivesafark, I hope someone rips one of his legs off so he goes home broke and we don't have to suffer hearing about him in the NFL.

Have you watched him play? he's not good enough to be much beyond an nfl backup.

That's what was said about Cam Newton before he went to the NFL as well.

I'm not sure if you're implying that they were wrong about Newton or if you're using Newton as an example showing why that's true of Manziel as well.  Manziel's a smaller, less talented, possibly smarter (but not by much) version of Newton.

You can search through the Cam Newton thread history and find my name attached to a lot - a LOT - of vitriol about the Panthers owner drafting him.  I will fully admit I was wrong about Cam Newton; he's got a lot of development that still needs to happen, and I'm beginning to think Rivera and Shula aren't the coaches to bring him to fruition.  He will improve as the new GM patches the holes left by Marty Hurney's dumpster fire.

As for Manziel, he could be a really good NFL QB - he's got an arm, but so did guys like Jeff George.  QBs need one of two things - either downfield vision, or the ability to avoid getting hit until an option opens up.  There are a number of schemes NFL coaches can employ to assist that.  Remember when Mike Shanahan and Jake Plummer hosted an AFC championship game in 2005?  Plummer had a career year because Shanahan emphasized bootlegs and play-action designed to push all the receivers to one side of the field.  If you find the right percentage of pass plays where you narrow the field, you can compensate for a QB's limited downfield vision (it's harder to figure out if he's staring down a receiver when there all on one line of sight.

Manziel looked downright McNabbian on that one pass play, even though his receiver bailed him out of an almost certain INT.  It sort of balances out the one tip drill INT which wasn't really Johnny's fault.  But Manziel needs to work on not staring down receivers, and make better judgements on where to throw the ball.  I know, it's easy for an armchair historianalyst to say that, but with time he could improve in those areas - the problem is, he may not survive in college long enough to be NFL-ready, and if he goes early and gets thrown into game situations without proper development, he's going to be a higher-profile Pat White.


Problem is he's small and less stout than even flutie, if he's 6'1" and 195 then I'm 6'6" and 220. He's maybe 5'8" and 175, the first time an NFL LB hits him he's dead.
 
2013-09-15 12:33:40 PM

RedZoneTuba: Now that you mention it...That early interception he threw in the end zone when A&M had all the momentum and seemed on the verge of running away with it was extremely Favrian. A classic "WTF was he THINKING?!?" mistake that cost his team big-time in the midst of an otherwise very good performance.


Exactly!
 
2013-09-15 09:38:55 PM

steamingpile: Problem is he's small and less stout than even flutie, if he's 6'1" and 195 then I'm 6'6" and 220. He's maybe 5'8" and 175, the first time an NFL LB hits him he's dead.


What's so hard to believe about him being 6'1" at 195lbs?
 
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