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(WISHTV)   High school freshman girl with Down Syndrome voted homecoming princess by rest of her school. Tag is for both Kimmy and the students who voted for her   (wishtv.com) divider line 157
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2013-09-15 07:27:41 AM

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"They're all gonna laugh at you"


Came for the Carrie reference, laughing hysterically waiting for the resulting apocalypse.
 
2013-09-15 11:42:38 AM

DerAppie: Unoriginal_Username: frepnog: on the one hand, cool for giving a person a nice nite.

on the other...

STOP DOING THIS shiat. IT HELPS NO ONE.

It doesn't? you don't think the other students helped the girl have a great evening and feel like she belonged?

This reeks of children improving their behaviour just before Christmas. Afterwards 99.9% of the people who voted for her still won't give her the time of day and the 0.1% already interacted with her. On the scale of good deeds this ranks just above liking an image macro against bullying. But only because this took some actual effort. It would have ranked higher if there was some actual sustained effort, now she belonged but people won't like her better tomorrow.

She'll have her hopes up and feel good now, and then she'll be in for the plunge when she finds out that no, not everyone wants to be her friend. They just voted for her because they wanted to feel good about themselves or because of peer pressure.

/Cynic?
//Only a little


Somebody else said the same thing up thread.  I asked them what would have been a better outcome in this situation, which they never got back to me on.  Since you're here now, maybe you can answer.  What would you have preferred to have happened here?
 
2013-09-15 12:26:28 PM

tetsoushima: Somebody else said the same thing up thread. I asked them what would have been a better outcome in this situation, which they never got back to me on. Since you're here now, maybe you can answer. What would you have preferred to have happened here?


What I would have preferred? Genetic screenings. But we can't have that because of "You know who else did eugenics?" Let us then look at the case at hand. TFA is rather short on details so I'm just going to make some wild guesses about how I think this went down.

1. The autistic girl has some friends who like her
2. Those friends pity her for what she is and isn't so they want her to have a nice evening (even if they wouldn't describe it like that).
3. They lobby for people to vote for her and people either agree to vote for her out of apathy, amusement, self righteousness or some other reason. But not because they are her friends, because no matter how kind and loving Kimmy is, no way that most of the school considers her a friend in anything other than the facebook meaning of the word.
4. She has a nice night
5. Wakes up the next day and suddenly all those nice people who voted for her still don't care a bit more than they did before

So what should have happened? Her friends should have simply taken her along to the party and have had a nice night by themselves. Kimmy would have had a nice memory of the night with her friends and she'd at least know what she was dealing with. No politics, no snickering, no feel good moments for the other students. Just Kimmy and her friends. Like 90% of the other people at the event. And then, years later, there won't be a Kimmy with an exaggerated view of how people view her but a Kimmy who is more down to earth and aware of her abilities and her shortcomings.
 
2013-09-15 03:06:06 PM

DerAppie: whargarbl

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lolwut? She's not autistic. She shouldn't be pitied at all, especially if she functions high enough to go to a regular school.

They've been screening for and aborting kids with Downs for YEARS. It doesn't require genetic screening and is not somethig that is passed on due to genetics. It's because old women shouldn't fark. Now that I think about it, Downs is the #1 reason why abortion needs to stay legal.
Anyway, your was about the most farked up post I have ever read on Fark. You have some serious issues and should consider seeking some spiritual guidance, which should not be confused with religion.
 
2013-09-15 03:53:46 PM

cretinbob: lolwut? She's not autistic. She shouldn't be pitied at all, especially if she functions high enough to go to a regular school.


Sorry, made a typo. As in, typo'd a different word instead of the one I wanted. Errors do happen. Anyway, just because she "shouldn't" be pitied doesn't mean that people don't. Chances are the one reason they elected her is because she does have Downs. Not because she is such a great person.

They've been screening for and aborting kids with Downs for YEARS. It doesn't require genetic screening and is not somethig that is passed on due to genetics. It's because old women shouldn't fark.

I never claimed it was hereditary. I merely insinuated (quite clearly) that they should check during pregnancy to see if there are serious disorders present. And then, well, I for one would not opt to raise a child with Down Syndrome,

Now that I think about it, Downs is the #1 reason why abortion needs to stay legal.

With you on that one.

Anyway, your was about the most farked up post I have ever read on Fark. You have some serious issues and should consider seeking some spiritual guidance, which should not be confused with religion.

Okay, just point out which part is the farked up part.

Paragraph 1: The part where I admit to be in favour of eugenics by way of screening embryos for genetic/chromosomal defects and find it sad that Hitler gave the procedure such a bad name?

It isn't as if I'm suggesting we go around killing people or force abortions on women. Just that the screening is standard and that there is a very serious talk with the parents. We have the ability and there is no reason why people shouldn't know what they are getting into. A child might be a joy in life, but a child with severe mental issues is a burden for life (again, even if people don't call it that. I'm sure parents enjoy spending 5 hours a day each making sure their 30 year old doesn't eat the laundry detergent etc).

Paragraph 2: The part where I make some wild assumptions that most kids in the school don't actually care about Kimmy and treat it like a feel good moment in which they can help "the poor girl" achieve something? I went to a school of just 2500, if there was a Downs kid transferring into my year there I wouldn't run to befriend him/her. I'd go "meh." Even more so if (s)he was in years below me. I didn't care for 99.99% of them so justifying ignoring one more would be pretty easy.

Or maybe paragraph 3: The part where I say that Kimmy's friends should have just been her friends and not try and push her into the spotlight? Because, as I already claimed, most people in that school really don't care about her and just look at it as a feel good moment at best and a joke at worst. And the whole distorted view of how people view her thing. Especially the distorted view thing.
 
2013-09-15 03:56:41 PM

DerAppie: but a child with severe mental issues is a burden for life (again, even if people don't call it that. I'm sure parents enjoy spending 5 hours a day each making sure their 30 year old doesn't eat the laundry detergent etc)


BTW, not saying this is Kimmy, considering that she is at a normal high school she'd probably be able to live at least with a degree of autonomy.
 
2013-09-15 04:46:20 PM

DerAppie: tetsoushima: Somebody else said the same thing up thread. I asked them what would have been a better outcome in this situation, which they never got back to me on. Since you're here now, maybe you can answer. What would you have preferred to have happened here?

What I would have preferred? Genetic screenings. But we can't have that because of "You know who else did eugenics?" Let us then look at the case at hand. TFA is rather short on details so I'm just going to make some wild guesses about how I think this went down.

1. The autistic girl has some friends who like her
2. Those friends pity her for what she is and isn't so they want her to have a nice evening (even if they wouldn't describe it like that).
3. They lobby for people to vote for her and people either agree to vote for her out of apathy, amusement, self righteousness or some other reason. But not because they are her friends, because no matter how kind and loving Kimmy is, no way that most of the school considers her a friend in anything other than the facebook meaning of the word.
4. She has a nice night
5. Wakes up the next day and suddenly all those nice people who voted for her still don't care a bit more than they did before

So what should have happened? Her friends should have simply taken her along to the party and have had a nice night by themselves. Kimmy would have had a nice memory of the night with her friends and she'd at least know what she was dealing with. No politics, no snickering, no feel good moments for the other students. Just Kimmy and her friends. Like 90% of the other people at the event. And then, years later, there won't be a Kimmy with an exaggerated view of how people view her but a Kimmy who is more down to earth and aware of her abilities and her shortcomings.


 I didn't really get the position, now I see where you're coming from.  I agree with some of it, not all of it, which is fine.  I appreciate your honesty and civility.
 
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