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(Washington Free Beacon)   Vladimir Putin, clearly out of farks to give, sells S-300 missiles to Iran   (freebeacon.com) divider line 133
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2013-09-14 12:16:58 PM
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2013-09-14 12:25:22 PM
Who cares?  The more armed to the teeth they are over there the better.  As long as we stay out of it.  Let them blow each other to hell.

Oh, and am I to assume that arming third parties is only insidious military dick waving when THEY do it?
 
2013-09-14 12:36:31 PM
He hates gays and he showed up Obama. That makes him a great man and conservative hero.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-14 12:37:42 PM

AngryDragon: Who cares?  The more armed to the teeth they are over there the better.  As long as we stay out of it.  Let them blow each other to hell.

Oh, and am I to assume that arming third parties is only insidious military dick waving when THEY do it?


The Israelis have nukes, they can handle it for us.  That's why we give them all that military aid right?
 
2013-09-14 12:38:03 PM

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Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?
 
2013-09-14 12:38:37 PM
Iranian President Hassan Rowhani was scheduled to meet with New York Times contributor Vladimir Putin on Friday

Really, Free Bacon?  Really?  That's what Putin is mainly known as / his main occupation, a NYT contributor?
 
2013-09-14 12:39:32 PM

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Go away, subs.

Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?


Now go away before I taunt you a second time!
 
2013-09-14 12:45:41 PM

LarryDan43: He hates gays and he showed up Obama. That makes him a great man and conservative hero.


Remember when Mitt Romney brought up that Russia was America's biggest geopolitical foe during the campaign and Obama attacked him, saying 1980 called and wanted its foreign policy back and the cold war has been over for 20 years? That's how much of a hero Putin is to conservatives, and what an idiot Obama was and is in foreign policy.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-14 12:47:24 PM

jjorsett: Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?


If it's an unreliable source yes.  If it's correct then real news organizations will report it.
 
2013-09-14 12:50:02 PM
Even if this is true, uh...has anyone else forgotten that Putin  isn't a hero? He's just the villain you can honestly respect.

/Seriously. People. Can we try and have an attention span greater than that of a duck?
 
2013-09-14 12:50:50 PM

vpb: AngryDragon: Who cares?  The more armed to the teeth they are over there the better.  As long as we stay out of it.  Let them blow each other to hell.

Oh, and am I to assume that arming third parties is only insidious military dick waving when THEY do it?

The Israelis have nukes, they can handle it for us.  That's why we give them all that military aid right?


The S-300 is an air defense missile, and it makes it tougher for anyone to "handle it," nukes or not. The next time Obama thinks about attacking Syria, if these are in place we might lose some aircraft, and more importantly, pilots. That's one reason to care.
 
2013-09-14 12:51:22 PM
Well, that'll give the US something to Grumble about.
 
2013-09-14 12:51:32 PM

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Go away, subs.

Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?


They freely admit they cover stories the "mainstream media" won't report on, or the "professional left" don't want reported on. So yeah I guess it is my habit to ignore "facts" like those that come from yet another "hurrr librul media" site.
 
2013-09-14 01:01:07 PM

jjorsett: LarryDan43: He hates gays and he showed up Obama. That makes him a great man and conservative hero.

Remember when Mitt Romney brought up that Russia was America's biggest geopolitical foe during the campaign and Obama attacked him, saying 1980 called and wanted its foreign policy back and the cold war has been over for 20 years? That's how much of a hero Putin is to conservatives, and what an idiot Obama was and is in foreign policy.


He's such an idiot he got what he wanted while Putin backed down?

Tell us more.
 
2013-09-14 01:02:22 PM

vpb: jjorsett: Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?

If it's an unreliable source yes.  If it's correct then real news organizations will report it.


What's your evidence that this is an unreliable source, that they espouse a political ideology you disapprove of? Did you bother to click on the link that goes to a house.gov page containing a letter sent by some Congressmen to John Kerry? I'm guessing not.

Here's the start of it:
September 12, 2013

The Honorable John Kerry
U.S. Secretary of State
2201 C Street, NW
Washington DC, 20520

Dear Secretary Kerry,

We are writing to express our deep concern over reports that Russia may be renewing
their agreement to supply Iran with five S-300 air defense systems. This potential arms
transfer would have devastating implications for Middle East regional security.
 
2013-09-14 01:02:42 PM
Yes, because they are defensive missile systems.  We shouldn't allow any country to own defensive missile systems.  Not like most of the Eastern block countries that currently are customers of the U.S. list of military industrial complex of corporations, should Iran or any other nation own defensive missiles that could knock out planes that might be flying overhead.
 
2013-09-14 01:05:15 PM

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Go away, subs.

Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?

They freely admit they cover stories the "mainstream media" won't report on, or the "professional left" don't want reported on. So yeah I guess it is my habit to ignore "facts" like those that come from yet another "hurrr librul media" site.


Well how's the Jerusalem Post and International Business Times? They're both reporting the same thing.

IBT:
Vladimir Putin is to hold talks with his Iranian counterpart Hassan Rohani over Russia's supply of advanced S-300 missile defence systems to Tehran.

A Kremlin source, cited in Kommersant Daily, claims the Russian leader will propose the renewal of an $800m (£508m) supply agreement between the two countries, when he meets Rohani on the sidelines of an economic summit in Kyrgyzstan.

 Jerusalem Post:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has approved the transfer of S-300 anti-aircraft missiles to Iran, according to the prestigious Russian daily newspaper  Kommersant.

The newspaper reported on Wednesday that the Russian government will revive the transfer three years after it canceled the original transaction.
 
2013-09-14 01:07:48 PM
 
2013-09-14 01:11:45 PM
John Kerry may not be the best person to deal with issues that require intelligence, diplomacy or common sense.

Lets have Europe or ME countries deal with these issues for a couple of years.     America is in no position to do anything.
 
2013-09-14 01:12:56 PM
Russia is so much better than us. and it gives defense systems to the Legitimate Governing Dicktatorships that really  need it most. I mean Iran... they try so hard to give their people food, water, health, education, liberties, forced abortions, rape, censorship, torture, murder... you know, the basics that Bush won't give people!! I mean Obama who is now President, but Bush is the one behind it all. Obama has to appear on The Daily Show, how can he possibly have time to run our country, idiots? You can tell Bush never had to spend more than three hours in warddrobe. Who does this jerk think he is?? Anyways, Iran hates Republicans and wants to kill all those morans who goto church on sunday mornings (JUDGING US ALL THE WHILE! THEY JUDGING US!) and that is alright with me, so Iran is warranted to do whatever it wants to do.Go hitler!
 
2013-09-14 01:15:44 PM

xkillyourfacex: Russia is so much better than us. and it gives defense systems to the Legitimate Governing Dicktatorships that really  need it most. I mean Iran... they try so hard to give their people food, water, health, education, liberties, forced abortions, rape, censorship, torture, murder... you know, the basics that Bush won't give people!! I mean Obama who is now President, but Bush is the one behind it all. Obama has to appear on The Daily Show, how can he possibly have time to run our country, idiots? You can tell Bush never had to spend more than three hours in warddrobe. Who does this jerk think he is?? Anyways, Iran hates Republicans and wants to kill all those morans who goto church on sunday mornings (JUDGING US ALL THE WHILE! THEY JUDGING US!) and that is alright with me, so Iran is warranted to do whatever it wants to do.Go hitler!


Someone shove a wallet in his mouth before he swallows his own tongue!
 
2013-09-14 01:17:52 PM

netcentric: John Kerry may not be the best person to deal with issues that require intelligence, diplomacy or common sense.

Lets have Europe or ME countries deal with these issues for a couple of years.     America is in no position to do anything.


Did you say all that with a straight face, or with complete cynicism?
 
2013-09-14 01:20:52 PM
Newsflash: the right has had a raging war-boner for Iran for quite a while now, and they successfully managed to dupe the whole country into invading the last country who dressed all slutty and acted like they wanted it.. The S-300 is a defensive system. This is Iran buying a can of mace.
 
2013-09-14 01:23:44 PM

jjorsett: Well how's the Jerusalem Post and International Business Times?


That's fine as long as it's not THIS SOURCE, which should be completely avoided except by right wing nutjob idiots who can't discern a valid source of information and think that BECAUSE something isn't reported in the "mainstream" media, it is automatically true, which is a great way for ignorable morons to out themselves, so I can ignore the words they fart out of their mouths and move on with my life.
 
2013-09-14 01:37:20 PM

vpb: If it's correct then real news organizations will report it 3 days ago.


Good point.
 
2013-09-14 01:39:17 PM

costermonger: Newsflash: the right has had a raging war-boner for Iran for quite a while now, and they successfully managed to dupe the whole country into invading the last country who dressed all slutty and acted like they wanted it.. The S-300 is a defensive system. This is Iran buying a can of mace.

i.i.cbsi.com
So in your extended metaphor, US foreign policy is a donut-loving UC Davis cop?
 
2013-09-14 01:45:43 PM

jjorsett: The S-300 is an air defense missile, and it makes it tougher for anyone to "handle it," nukes or not. The next time Obama thinks about attacking Syria, if these are in place we might lose some aircraft, and more importantly, pilots.


How dare a sovereign nation resist a US invasion Freedom VisitTM!   It'd be likeif the Poles had had the gall to oppose Germany in 1939.
 
2013-09-14 01:49:56 PM

jjorsett: LarryDan43: He hates gays and he showed up Obama. That makes him a great man and conservative hero.

Remember when Mitt Romney brought up that Russia was America's biggest geopolitical foe during the campaign and Obama attacked him, saying 1980 called and wanted its foreign policy back and the cold war has been over for 20 years? That's how much of a hero Putin is to conservatives, and what an idiot Obama was and is in foreign policy.


This.

Obama also said Detroit could be saved. Romney said it had to go through bankruptcy.  Romney may have been smarter than Obama, despite being out of touch with the common welfare mom.
 
2013-09-14 01:58:05 PM
The US always argues that air defense and missle defense are purely passive and pose no threat to other countries.

Boot, meet other foot.
 
2013-09-14 01:58:24 PM
The right now hates Obama so much, they are venerating an ex-KGB officer and genuine illegitimate president (Putin is in his third term, which the Russian constitution does not allow), who has jailed dissidents and admittedly murdered opponents.

What's next, they decide Mugabe is a decent capitalist?
 
2013-09-14 01:59:30 PM

PsiChick: Even if this is true, uh...has anyone else forgotten that Putin  isn't a hero?


Well...
 
2013-09-14 02:00:16 PM
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-09-14 02:03:56 PM

jjorsett: The S-300 is an air defense missile, and it makes it tougher for anyone to "handle it," nukes or not. The next time Obama thinks about attacking Syria, if these are in place we might lose some aircraft, and more importantly, pilots. That's one reason to care.


Or we could use cruise missiles or destroy the S-300s with HARMs.  Or both.
 
2013-09-14 02:05:42 PM
We really do hate competition in our arms dealing racket don't we?

/By we, I mean the US gov.
 
2013-09-14 02:09:32 PM

Nemo's Brother: Obama also said Detroit could be saved. Romney said it had to go through bankruptcy


That's quite the disingenuous argument, since neither of them were talking about the government of the city of Detroit and were instead talking about the automotive companies that operate nearby.

despite being out of touch with the common welfare mom.

Oh, never mind
 
2013-09-14 02:10:16 PM

vpb: jjorsett: The S-300 is an air defense missile, and it makes it tougher for anyone to "handle it," nukes or not. The next time Obama thinks about attacking Syria, if these are in place we might lose some aircraft, and more importantly, pilots. That's one reason to care.

Or we could use cruise missiles or destroy the S-300s with HARMs.  Or both.


Or if we only had some kind of unmanned aerial vehicle, like a drone or something....
 
2013-09-14 02:13:47 PM
Cuz that's what global villians do, dawg.

Be a real shame if some Stingers ended up in Chechen hands now, wouldn't it?
 
2013-09-14 02:41:28 PM
and one to Michelle...

3.bp.blogspot.com

Have you ever thought that perhaps BOB's Leadership and Management skill sets might have peaked way back when he was a mediocre community organizer?  Recent events do seem to suggest that.
 
2013-09-14 02:43:25 PM

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I was unaware "professionalism" was the Right's latest Threat to AmericaTM
 
2013-09-14 02:46:49 PM
FTFA:   "We urge you to send Russia a clear message that this kind of irresponsible provocation will not be tolerated by the United States and the international community."

While I don't think its a good idea to send arms to Iran, its an even worse idea to threaten not to "tolerate" Russian arms sales. What is the U.S. supposed to do----attack Russia over this?
 
2013-09-14 02:49:11 PM
It would be un-American to deny Iran its right to bear arms, and to keep Russia from making money. Why do you hate freedom and capitalism, subby?
 
2013-09-14 02:57:03 PM

LarryDan43: He hates gays and he showed up Obama. That makes him a great man and conservative hero.


Why can't we have HIM for President?  ('Cause bein' forign sure ain't a problem!)
 
2013-09-14 03:00:05 PM

Somacandra: While I don't think its a good idea to send arms to Iran, its an even worse idea to threaten not to "tolerate" Russian arms sales. What is the U.S. supposed to do----attack Russia over this?


Set up more "defensive weapons installations" in the former Soviet republics? Since it violates NATO treaties it ALWAYS pisses them off.
 
2013-09-14 03:03:49 PM
And since Israel has undeclared nukes, undeclared chemical and biological weapons  (including sarin), and a habit of invading her neighbors while constantly threatening Iran, it would be irresponsible of the Iranian military NOT to load up on air defense.
 
2013-09-14 03:06:08 PM

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liberals hate him!
 
2013-09-14 03:15:14 PM

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There's an article on there about how great Gohmert is.

jjorsett: veale728: *clicks About Us*

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Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?


The site contains an article that goes into in depth praise of Gohmert. As such it's opinion on anything can safely be ignored. As can the opinions of any of its supporters. So yes.
 
2013-09-14 03:15:19 PM

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He's the online equivalent of a picky eating toddler.

BUT I WANT MY CHICKEN NUGGETS FROM MCDONALDS!!!!!!
 
2013-09-14 03:15:25 PM

jakomo002: And since Israel has undeclared nukes, undeclared chemical and biological weapons  (including sarin), and a habit of invading her neighbors while constantly threatening Iran, it would be irresponsible of the Iranian military NOT to load up on air defense.


So how are things in the mirror universe ? in ours, it's Iran who threatens Israel on a regular basis and arab nations have the habit of attempting to destroy Israel multiple times. Last time i checked it was Iranian proxy terrorists who actually invaded Israel but don't let pesky facts like that confuse you.
 
2013-09-14 03:16:14 PM

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Is it your customary habit to ignore verifiable facts when they're reported by a source that you don't like?


Attempt 2: The site contains an article that goes into in depth praise of Gohmert. As such it's opinion on anything can safely be ignored. As can the opinions of any of its supporters. So yes.
 
2013-09-14 03:21:35 PM

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The relationship between the progressive movement and the mainstream media?  Antagonism and disdain?
 
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