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(Den Of Geek)   Has this summer movie season made us tired of seeing the world destroyed?   (denofgeek.com) divider line 48
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2013-09-14 12:05:08 PM
Nothing like quoting Damon Lindelof, the Rob Liefeld of script writing, who is in turn the Dane Cook of comic artists.
 
2013-09-14 12:28:49 PM
Not quite yet, but it'll get there eventually.....
 
2013-09-14 12:30:24 PM
Torture porn, destruction porn, "generic word" porn...can we get off the damn porn train already?
 
2013-09-14 12:30:41 PM
The postapocalyptic narrative is one of those plot tropes that are evergreen.
 
2013-09-14 12:38:58 PM
Yes.
 
2013-09-14 12:39:06 PM
It's easier to make an apocalyptic story, imagining the audience will automatically relate to the destruction of the world (read "my cool, 1st-world way of living", considering most of the world lives one step above a post-apocalyptic wasteland). Much more difficult to make a story about characters whose fates are less global and more emotionally than physically dire.
 
2013-09-14 12:42:36 PM
I am bored of dramatic representations of apocalyptic doomsday scenarios, yes.
I am not bored at all by the thought of any real-life apocalyptic doomsday scenarios happening in my lifetime.
Bring it on.
 
2013-09-14 12:43:51 PM
Two best world destroying movies this summer:

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2013-09-14 12:45:23 PM
I say less talking about the world being destroyed, more doing! Less fiction, more action!
 
2013-09-14 12:56:03 PM
I like a good science fiction or action movie, but have grown weary of the repeated city smashing genre. I recall when all they churned out in the past were Mad Max-like films, where everyone lived in a post apocalypse world that seemed forever involved in squabbles involving roving gangs in slapped together cars. Prior to that, it was the Blade Runner form, where everyone lived in mainly an Asian society, mostly habituating in huge, old buildings that were falling apart and leaking water.

I got tired of those also.

I did enjoy the Alien series, until they carried the concept too far -- eventually winding up with a cloned Ripley descendant, a mutated Alien and an overload of gore.

Decades ago, they concentrated on aliens popping up in small desert towns and terrorizing the locals but not necessarily bent on destroying the world. Just mainly the teens in old cars out for a ride at night to find a spot to cuddle.

The 'Thing' was pretty good, concentrating mainly on an area in the arctic, but it took a remake to get some idea of what the buried space ship looked like.

The 'Tommyknockers' was interesting. No world conquest there, just a curiously nasty alien race using the locals to dig up their buried ship and power it so they could get back into space.

I read the book 'Under the Dome' and found it good but the TV series rather loosely follows the characters, changes a few around and, IMO, sucks.

Hollywood gets stuck in a rut and churns out clones by the ton until someone accidentally breaks the mold and produces something different but great.

Like, I recall many a movie where the space ship, naval ship, aircraft, -- whatever -- always had the main controls explode in a shower of flames and sparks at the slightest impact. It made you wonder how the craft got into space in the first place.

I did thoroughly enjoy the first Man on the Moon version with it's steam-punk kinda style, the Victorian designed space sphere powered by antigravity 'paint' with an interior right out of the times made of lots of brass, rich woods and a lot of cushions. We hadn't been to the moon yet and the actors carried the show. Peter Cushing, I believe, played the rather funny, eccentric inventor.

Now with CGI, whole new worlds have opened up, but Hollywood seems to concentrate on the same old story lines. However, there was something to be said for the old time expert model makers who designed and created entire cities in miniature or fantastic space craft to be used in the shots.

I did enjoy the Space Odyssey series and they ended that before it became stupid.

Yeah, the Die Hard franchise is becoming predictable. MacClain shows up and destroys everything in his way.

But, none of this is new for Hollywood. They always get stuck in a rut, eventually running something which was good into the ground. Like the James Bond series.

Don't forget that brief era of the 'real' westerns where every character looked like you could smell them coming from a block away, towns looked like cess pits and the entire area could be in a searing desert drought, but the city streets would be ankle deep in mud.
 
2013-09-14 12:56:53 PM
Because I'd rather see a paradise where everyone has what they want and no one suffers or does anything dramatic.
That's called a chick flick, subby.

NOW DESTROY EVERYTHING!!
 
2013-09-14 01:02:48 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Torture porn, destruction porn, "generic word" porn...can we get off the damn porn train already?


Where might one find this fabled porn train and how much do the tickets cost?  I only ask because a friend wants to know...
 
2013-09-14 01:07:42 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: Pokey.Clyde: Torture porn, destruction porn, "generic word" porn...can we get off the damn porn train already?

Where might one find this fabled porn train and how much do the tickets cost?  I only ask because a friend wants to know...


I've heard its an old school locomotive that runs out of somewhere in Ohio.
 
2013-09-14 01:25:11 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Two best world destroying movies this summer:

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This is the end was brilliant.  It is now firmly in my "top 20" movies of all time.  It was farking hilarious, over the top, and just damned good entertainment.

At World's End was....  well, it wasn't that good, and I am a big fan of Pegg and Frost.  I will not be re-watching it any time soon.  It just wasn't that good.  The ending was actually more interesting than the movie, and we will never see that world explored.
 
2013-09-14 01:25:53 PM
Watching thousands of people die in the distance as LA falls into the ocean, while the yuppie asshole and his dimwit family escape literally everything without a scratch?

Again?

And again?

No, f*ck you Hollywood, you're full of sadists who rub a couple out whenever imaginary people scream and die horribly.
 
2013-09-14 01:43:44 PM
Well, after seeing alien invaders led by a supervillain destroying New York in The Avengers, it was a little dull watching alien invaders led by a supervillian destroying Metropolis in Man of Steel.
 
2013-09-14 01:46:13 PM

Sgt Otter: Well, after seeing alien invaders led by a supervillain destroying New York in The Avengers, it was a little dull watching alien invaders led by a supervillian destroying Metropolis in Man of Steel.


Actually Man of Steel was a little dull because it was...  a little dull.  A live action Dragon Ball Z battle that went on for farrrrrr tooooo loooooong.

/MoS bored me.  I hate that it did...  but it did.
 
2013-09-14 01:50:26 PM
What seems to be forgotten by nervous studio executives, however, is that it's the personal stakes in a movie that really hold an audience's interest; without an attachment to the drama of distinct individuals, the wholesale destruction just becomes so much moving wallpaper.

Bears repeating.

More than anything, it's why Pacific Rim kicked the ass of the Transformers series. The personal drama wasn't Chekhov, but there was enough that you cared about the characters, particularly the Australian father and Stacker Pentecost.

Would Back to the Future get made? Well, The Hunger Games was, had a budget of $85 and tore up the box office. But that's not a fresh thing, and that's one thing that worries me. Almost everything is coming from another source now. No-one is putting the money on the line to make BTTF, Raiders, Gremlins or The Golden Child.
 
2013-09-14 02:13:05 PM
FTFA:"There's going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen megabudget movies are going to go crashing into the ground," Spielberg said, "and that's going to change the paradigm"PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
 
2013-09-14 02:46:25 PM

farkeruk: What seems to be forgotten by nervous studio executives, however, is that it's the personal stakes in a movie that really hold an audience's interest; without an attachment to the drama of distinct individuals, the wholesale destruction just becomes so much moving wallpaper.

Bears repeating.


Yep. Same with the new Star Trek. Crew members falling and dying right and left with no repercussions. San Francisco trashed with no repercussions. You have to make loss personal for it to actually mean anything.
 
2013-09-14 02:59:08 PM

eiger: Yep. Same with the new Star Trek. Crew members falling and dying right and left with no repercussions. San Francisco trashed with no repercussions. You have to make loss personal for it to actually mean anything.


This is why I felt Deep Impact was far superior than Armageddon. The world got off easy in Armageddon, there was real tragic loss in Deep Impact.

Course, the average popcorn viewer doesn't want tragic success, they want everyone to win. Which is why i think the movie fell flat.
 
2013-09-14 02:59:58 PM
You know what genre I never get tired of: sci-fi sexploitation. You can never go wrong with gratuitous nudity and aliens. We need more of these films.
 
2013-09-14 03:03:37 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: This is why I felt Deep Impact was far superior than Armageddon.


deep impact felt like a sci-fi original with a bit of a budget.  It really kinda sucks.  It fell flat because the cast with exception of Morgan Freeman sucked.

Armageddon was a classic summer blockbuster - big, loud, flashy and with little substance, but imminently re-watchable.
 
2013-09-14 03:47:54 PM
One can only hope it has made everyone tired of an endless stream of farking comic book movies.
 
2013-09-14 04:15:29 PM

Rik01: habituating


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2013-09-14 05:53:25 PM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: One can only hope it has made everyone tired of an endless stream of farking comic book movies.


Only when they're poorly done.
 
2013-09-14 06:54:36 PM
That's a why iron man 3 was a good change of pace to the huge stories. It was more personally focused.
 
2013-09-14 07:18:25 PM

max_pooper: You know what genre I never get tired of: sci-fi sexploitation. You can never go wrong with gratuitous nudity and aliens. We need more of these films.


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2013-09-14 07:42:05 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Two best world destroying movies this summer:

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Both of those movies were boring and stupid.

But they have "geek cred", so you have to read about how great they were all over the internet.

I've learned that if the usual gang of "internet dorks" like a movie, it probably means it sucks. And if they REALLY like it, it means that it was written for 12-year-olds.
 
2013-09-14 08:04:50 PM
You know what I'm bored of? People who act like there weren't apocalypse-type city destroying movies before this summer, right alongside the assholes with short attention spans who think that horror movies never had nudity, sex or violence before about 5 years ago.
 
2013-09-14 08:20:23 PM

realmolo: Satanic_Hamster: Two best world destroying movies this summer:

[cdn01.boweryboogie.com image 620x375]

[movie.hnr.cn image 850x565]

Both of those movies were boring and stupid.

But they have "geek cred", so you have to read about how great they were all over the internet.

I've learned that if the usual gang of "internet dorks" like a movie, it probably means it sucks. And if they REALLY like it, it means that it was written for 12-year-olds.


Cool story, bro.
 
2013-09-14 08:27:41 PM

realmolo: Satanic_Hamster: Two best world destroying movies this summer:

[cdn01.boweryboogie.com image 620x375]

[movie.hnr.cn image 850x565]

Both of those movies were boring and stupid.

But they have "geek cred", so you have to read about how great they were all over the internet.

I've learned that if the usual gang of "internet dorks" like a movie, it probably means it sucks. And if they REALLY like it, it means that it was written for 12-year-olds.


Pacific Rim anyone?
 
2013-09-14 09:20:04 PM

frepnog: IdBeCrazyIf: This is why I felt Deep Impact was far superior than Armageddon.

deep impact felt like a sci-fi original with a bit of a budget.  It really kinda sucks.  It fell flat because the cast with exception of Morgan Freeman sucked.

Armageddon was a classic summer blockbuster - big, loud, flashy and with little substance, but imminently re-watchable.


It was only re-watchable in the sense that it is so familiar. It draws off our connections to The Right Stuff, and the Aerosmith song, and the Bruce Willis as grumpy father learning to trust his daughter's new man trope, and Liv Tyler's real dad singing the song...it's like a meme. It's strength was in it's ability to conjure up feelings from more interesting things.

The movie, itself, was little more than a music video for an Aerosmith song.

Deep Impact had a better idea. Bad casting killed it. It also didn't help that the title was a hammy pun.
 
2013-09-14 09:22:09 PM

BumpInTheNight: The sound of one hand clapping: Pokey.Clyde: Torture porn, destruction porn, "generic word" porn...can we get off the damn porn train already?

Where might one find this fabled porn train and how much do the tickets cost?  I only ask because a friend wants to know...

I've heard its an old school locomotive that runs out of somewhere in Ohio.


nice...
 
2013-09-14 09:22:54 PM
No, just the White House.
 
2013-09-14 09:24:41 PM
The chick who used to be on that casino show with Jimmy Caan with the awesome tits who really turned out baaaaad when she hit her expiration date, that was the end of the world.

/Who's the German dude who claimed the world actually ended at some point during the Roman Empire, but nobody has realized it yet?
 
2013-09-14 10:33:46 PM
I don't know, I think it they were just a lead up to Obama and his Peace Prize
 
2013-09-14 11:17:33 PM

Brick-House: DUUUURRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPITYDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Do ya smoke, bub?

You should make yourself a root-beer & gasoline float.
 
2013-09-14 11:29:14 PM
You mean besides 1998's (Deep Impact/Armageddon) or 2009's (Knowing/2012)?
 
2013-09-14 11:51:42 PM

eiger: farkeruk: What seems to be forgotten by nervous studio executives, however, is that it's the personal stakes in a movie that really hold an audience's interest; without an attachment to the drama of distinct individuals, the wholesale destruction just becomes so much moving wallpaper.

Bears repeating.

Yep. Same with the new Star Trek. Crew members falling and dying right and left with no repercussions. San Francisco trashed with no repercussions. You have to make loss personal for it to actually mean anything.


So that's what "Into Darkness" is all about eh?  Yeah, I'll pass on that one.
 
2013-09-15 01:56:36 AM
Bah, you all missed it....the movies are all written by people from your HS debate teams...

They never win unless they show how if you support the other guy the world ends...
 
2013-09-15 07:38:39 AM
my problem with scenes of massive destruction is that they almost never deal with the aftermath.  we don't see what happens after an entire city is annihilated.  like in gi joe retaliation they destroy the entire city of london in a ten-second bit of special effects, and it is never mentioned again.  they go "oh no london is destroyed!" and move on with the corny action and never give the death of 8 million people another thought.  if you're going to destroy an entire city like that you have to follow through the emotional aftermath, you can't just shrug it off or else the whole thing is meaningless.
 
2013-09-15 09:02:05 AM
no, but Wall Street actually destroying the World has made us tired of seeing the World destroyed.
 
2013-09-15 10:08:44 AM

Rik01: Don't forget that brief era of the 'real' westerns where every character looked like you could smell them coming from a block away, towns looked like cess pits and the entire area could be in a searing desert drought, but the city streets would be ankle deep in mud.


That wasn't mud.
 
2013-09-15 10:12:56 AM

Bootysama: That's a why iron man 3 was a good change of pace to the huge stories. It was more personally focused.


Iron Man 3 was the most forgettable film of the summer. It was about nothing, said nothing, and bored the pants off of everyone who saw it.
 
2013-09-15 12:20:47 PM

Hebalo: Iron Man 3 was the most forgettable film of the summer. It was about nothing, said nothing, and bored the pants off of everyone who saw it.


Right.  Not a single person liked it.  Not only in the entire nation, BUT THE WORLD.  It was that boring, they had to wake up people at the end.

Everyone here loves and respects your opinion on the film industry.  Do you have a blog that we could read for daily updates on your thoughts?
 
2013-09-15 01:07:30 PM
Alright, let's get a zombie, a superhero, a continuously exploding and collapsing cityscape, and a sound effect that goes from a high pitch to a low pitch, pauses, then sounds like and explosion. That'll be your MOTY.
 
2013-09-15 06:20:49 PM

frepnog: IdBeCrazyIf: This is why I felt Deep Impact was far superior than Armageddon.

deep impact felt like a sci-fi original with a bit of a budget.  It really kinda sucks.  It fell flat because the cast with exception of Morgan Freeman sucked.

Armageddon was a classic summer blockbuster - big, loud, flashy and with little substance, but imminently re-watchable.


Just the opposite.

Deep Impact was a lot more realistic and had better characters, not cartoon caricatures like Armageddon.

/Armageddon re-watchable? Clips maybe. But the whole movie is too long and overloaded.
 
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