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2013-09-14 12:20:32 AM
While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?
 
2013-09-14 12:35:31 AM

Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?


Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.
 
2013-09-14 01:13:32 AM
Okay, I'm drunk right now but I watched that video and it didn't prove anything. The dogs had a human trainer/owner with them all the time -so it's not like the dogs are accepting the robots as part of their pack.

I had a friend who used to feed his dog beer. That dog loved it too. I found out later that you really shouldn't give dog's beer because it causes obesity or something that we humans are immune to.
 
2013-09-14 01:41:35 AM
Dog trifecta complete
 
2013-09-14 01:43:10 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: I had a friend who used to feed his dog beer. That dog loved it too. I found out later that you really shouldn't give dog's beer because it causes obesity or something that we humans are immune to.


Your liver can metabolize alcohol, your dog's liver can't.  The alcohol stays in his system until it's flushed out by the kidneys so it puts a lot more stress on a dog than a human.
 
2013-09-14 01:49:57 AM
This research is an end around by Skynet, whose terminator units were frequently detected by dogs.  Now they've come back to get dogs to like robots.

/we're doomed.
 
2013-09-14 02:00:18 AM
No robot could ever give a good belly scrub like I do.
But it they build one that picks up the poop and puts all nice in a plastic bad and ties the end in a knot I am so getting one.
 
2013-09-14 02:02:20 AM

emotion_lotion: No robot could ever give a good belly scrub like I do.
But it they build one that picks up the poop and puts all nice in a plastic bad and ties the end in a knot I am so getting one.


A roomba for your back yard?

I wish Monsanto would come out with dog pee resistant grass.
 
2013-09-14 02:05:49 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-09-14 02:06:05 AM

cman: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.


You have obviously never been flipped off by a chimp or a monkey.
 
2013-09-14 02:06:58 AM

neongoats: I wish Monsanto would come out with dog pee resistant grass.


It's basically a fertilizer burn. There's nothing to 'resist'. You generally don't want grass that reacts poorly to the nutrients that it feeds on.
 
2013-09-14 02:09:24 AM
What a stupid test. Dogs can smell better than humans can see. They know exactly where the treat is the whole time.
 
2013-09-14 02:12:14 AM
This wouldn't work for my dog unless it was a robotic food dispensing unit.

/Kibbles and BITS or GTFO
 
xcv
2013-09-14 02:14:53 AM

emotion_lotion: No robot could ever give a good belly scrub like I do.
But it they build one that picks up the poop and puts all nice in a plastic bad and ties the end in a knot I am so getting one.


A cheap robot launcher for tennis balls or soft toys safe for indoors, the ability to play tug of war for hours, coupled with an automatic, scheduled can opening and the dog wouldn't notice I'm gone.
 
2013-09-14 02:17:42 AM

Harry_Seldon: cman: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.

You have obviously never been flipped off by a chimp or a monkey.


Or that gorilla Koko, who speaks American (sign language). And I dnrta but, if it's the experiment I'm thinking of, it was to show that the dogs watch our faces alot for cues from eye movements n whatnot.
 
2013-09-14 02:20:56 AM
Sex with animals, especially dogs, is really big in the lesbian community.
 
2013-09-14 02:25:35 AM

boinkingbill: Sex with animals, especially dogs, is really big in the lesbian community.


I don't believe that.
 
2013-09-14 02:33:09 AM
The poodle bites. The poodle chews.
www.mamapop.com
Not a speck of cereal.
 
2013-09-14 02:36:00 AM
img295.imageshack.us I love where this thread is going.... Por favor manténganse alejado de las puertas.
 
2013-09-14 02:36:25 AM

doglover: boinkingbill: Sex with animals, especially dogs, is really big in the lesbian community.

I don't believe that.


I respect your opinion on this topic.
 
2013-09-14 02:46:20 AM

xcv: A cheap robot launcher for tennis balls or soft toys safe for indoors, the ability to play tug of war for hours, coupled with an automatic, scheduled can opening and the dog wouldn't notice I'm gone.


One of the more famous youtubes out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PcL6-mjRNk
 
2013-09-14 02:49:00 AM
Your dog wants cylon....
 
2013-09-14 03:36:09 AM
My dogs would love anything that gives them food.


Doesn't take a Scientologist to figure that one out.
 
2013-09-14 04:21:38 AM

Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?


I'm not subby. But someone already mentioned dogs are the only animal to innately understand finger pointing (incorrect technically, they are one of two...humans are the other. Chimps don't). Wolves cannot do this. Dogs are able to do this because we selectively bred them over thousands of years to be able to understand and interact with humans to do their jobs. Dogs also have a rare genetic variable (rare in the animal kingdom and humans don't have it) which allowed for breeding to produce such marked variety while still being able to interbreed. So basically if you look at the types of different sheep, horses, chickens, and all other animals we've bred for our purposes, you see some variety but you don't see the extensive variability you do with dogs (Mastiff v. poodle v. bulldog, etc).

Anyway just offhand and off memory, dogs innately know pointing. They also scan human faces in the same way humans scan human faces (starting IIRC at the left eye, or something). They understand human facial expression, and most breeds also have human like facial expressions (dogs can make a larger variety of faces than a cat, or a horse). And while breeds vary *greatly* in intelligence, the pointing thing is something all puppies can do almost instantly. Toddlers can too. And it's really weird seeing chimps just *not* get what the finger pointing means.
 
2013-09-14 04:36:58 AM
I have a dog.  This dog loves me.  She loves my wife and my grand kids.  This dog has innate sense about anyone who comes to our gate.
 
2013-09-14 04:51:20 AM

porkloin: I have a dog.  This dog loves me.  She loves my wife and my grand kids.  This dog has innate sense about anyone who comes to our gate.


The dog abides.
 
2013-09-14 05:07:52 AM

boinkingbill: Sex with animals, especially dogs, is really big in the lesbian community.


thats valuable hearsay.
 
2013-09-14 05:29:03 AM

Lady Indica: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

I'm not subby. But someone already mentioned dogs are the only animal to innately understand finger pointing (incorrect technically, they are one of two...humans are the other. Chimps don't). Wolves cannot do this. Dogs are able to do this because we selectively bred them over thousands of years to be able to understand and interact with humans to do their jobs. Dogs also have a rare genetic variable (rare in the animal kingdom and humans don't have it) which allowed for breeding to produce such marked variety while still being able to interbreed. So basically if you look at the types of different sheep, horses, chickens, and all other animals we've bred for our purposes, you see some variety but you don't see the extensive variability you do with dogs (Mastiff v. poodle v. bulldog, etc).

Anyway just offhand and off memory, dogs innately know pointing. They also scan human faces in the same way humans scan human faces (starting IIRC at the left eye, or something). They understand human facial expression, and most breeds also have human like facial expressions (dogs can make a larger variety of faces than a cat, or a horse). And while breeds vary *greatly* in intelligence, the pointing thing is something all puppies can do almost instantly. Toddlers can too. And it's really weird seeing chimps just *not* get what the finger pointing means.


This

Danke for expanding what I wanted to say (except the facial expressions. I didn't think of that)
 
2013-09-14 06:46:25 AM

porkloin: I have a dog.  This dog loves me.  She loves my wife and my grand kids.  This dog has innate sense about anyone who comes to our gate.


Went on a date with this woman and went okay, we chatted by text after and she thought that the "real test" if I was a good person or not was meeting her dogs, I polished my shoes with bacon grease, the dogs loved me and bacon makes for a good shoe polish.
 
2013-09-14 06:49:00 AM

Magic_Button: porkloin: I have a dog.  This dog loves me.  She loves my wife and my grand kids.  This dog has innate sense about anyone who comes to our gate.

Went on a date with this woman and went okay, we chatted by text after and she thought that the "real test" if I was a good person or not was meeting her dogs, I polished my shoes with bacon grease, the dogs loved me and bacon makes for a good shoe polish.


www.iconsoffright.com
 
2013-09-14 07:44:03 AM

Lsherm: Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?


Dogs prefer humans who give treats over robots that give treats.

Dogs also prefer robots that give treats over robots that don't.
=Smidge=
 
2013-09-14 07:50:16 AM

doglover: What a stupid test. Dogs can smell better than humans can see. They know exactly where the treat is the whole time.


My basset hound must be retarded then. He can smell it, but its a lot quicker to show him where food is. Otherwise he sniffs everywhere the food ever was and sometimes gives up before finding it. Mom came in with pizza once and be ran to the air conditioner and sniffed franticallt. He is still a puppy though.

Our dogs aren't so great at following when you point to find something, but they all know the "march your ass out of here!" hand gesture.
 
2013-09-14 07:51:46 AM

Lady Indica: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

I'm not subby. But someone already mentioned dogs are the only animal to innately understand finger pointing (incorrect technically, they are one of two...humans are the other. Chimps don't). Wolves cannot do this. Dogs are able to do this because we selectively bred them over thousands of years to be able to understand and interact with humans to do their jobs. Dogs also have a rare genetic variable (rare in the animal kingdom and humans don't have it) which allowed for breeding to produce such marked variety while still being able to interbreed. So basically if you look at the types of different sheep, horses, chickens, and all other animals we've bred for our purposes, you see some variety but you don't see the extensive variability you do with dogs (Mastiff v. poodle v. bulldog, etc).

Anyway just offhand and off memory, dogs innately know pointing. They also scan human faces in the same way humans scan human faces (starting IIRC at the left eye, or something). They understand human facial expression, and most breeds also have human like facial expressions (dogs can make a larger variety of faces than a cat, or a horse). And while breeds vary *greatly* in intelligence, the pointing thing is something all puppies can do almost instantly. Toddlers can too. And it's really weird seeing chimps just *not* get what the finger pointing means.


There was a show on PBS's Nature (IIRC) called Dogs Decoded.

Definitely worth the watch. It talks about a lot of this kind of stuff.
 
2013-09-14 08:14:31 AM

cman: Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.


I've seen cats look where a finger is pointed.
You can also do the fake throw to fool a cat just like a dog.
We have a cat that can hear you pick up the laser pointer, then runs to the front door which is her favorite spot to chase the light around.
 
2013-09-14 08:29:39 AM

cman: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.


I had a dog that when I pointed at the food, he would look at my finger and think the food was on my finger.
 
2013-09-14 08:45:56 AM

cman: Lsherm: While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

Can someone farking explain to me what subby or the article writer are talking about?

Dogs are basically the only animal out there that understands what pointing a finger means.


Nope.
Cats know what pointing means.

So do most primates.
I'd put money on wolves and dolphins knowing too.
 
2013-09-14 08:56:28 AM

boinkingbill: Sex with animals, especially dogs, is really big in the lesbian community.



Not surprising, since women have been having sex with pigs forever.
 
2013-09-14 09:04:17 AM

educated: Nope.
Cats know what pointing means.

So do most primates.
I'd put money on wolves and dolphins knowing too.


Citation needed. Because scientists have tested this, and they disagree.
 
2013-09-14 09:26:28 AM

Copper Spork: educated: Nope.
Cats know what pointing means.

So do most primates.
I'd put money on wolves and dolphins knowing too.

Citation needed. Because scientists have tested this, and they disagree.


Correct about primates not following finger points. I saw that video. I didn't see them test wolves, dolphins, or cats. I know cats can follow where you point when they know there's chicken at the end of that point.
 
2013-09-14 09:27:03 AM

Mudd's woman: There was a show on PBS's Nature (IIRC) called Dogs Decoded.

Definitely worth the watch. It talks about a lot of this kind of stuff.


YES! Couldn't remember the name of it. NOVA program I think. That's where I learned it. :D
 
2013-09-14 09:30:21 AM

Lady Indica: Mudd's woman: There was a show on PBS's Nature (IIRC) called Dogs Decoded.

Definitely worth the watch. It talks about a lot of this kind of stuff.

YES! Couldn't remember the name of it. NOVA program I think. That's where I learned it. :D


Thats where I learned that finger-pointing fact, too.

Its on Netflix and Amazon Prime
 
2013-09-14 09:51:18 AM
Came here to call bullshiat on this, but you folks have covered it.  Dogs relate better with humans than most humans can relate with each other.  Mine can read me like a book, so it only subtle communication is required in our normal routines.  Can't see him snuggling up to a farkin' robot on the couch, either.
 
2013-09-14 10:26:40 AM
According to this article, chimps just ignore pointing, but some cats also understand what it means...
 
2013-09-14 11:34:34 AM
Humans don't have steak in them?

www.examiner.com
 
2013-09-14 12:21:50 PM
While the dogs didn't interact with the robot to the same extent that they normally do with humans, they spent more time hanging out near the robot or looking at its touchscreen head when the robot behaved socially. They were better at finding hidden food in the room when the social robot pointed to it, rather than the asocial one, though neither held a candle to the results when a human pointed to the food.

static.neatorama.com
 
2013-09-14 12:22:30 PM
For the pointing thing, I think the point is social cooperation. We started using wolves way back when because the similarities in social structure and cooperative hunting made us a good match. We then influenced their evolution for thousands of years to work with and for us, so no wonder they respond to us so well.
As for cats, they're social but not cooperative hunters, but we've been working on them for nearly as long as dogs, so it makes sense that they cooperate in some contexts.
Some dogs may not quite get pointing because they might not be very bright in that area. Some cats might not get it because fark you that's why.
As for the robots, come on, dogs are going to be into anything that produces food; the humans greeting it is just icing on the cake. Had one dog that would just stare at the metal trash can the dog food was in. He would have done anything for that trash can.
 
2013-09-14 12:45:19 PM

ckccfa: We then influenced their evolution for thousands of years to work with and for us


Wrong way around. Dogs influenced our evolution to make us more dog-friendly.
 
2013-09-14 04:03:27 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I found out later that you really shouldn't give dog's beer because it causes obesity or something that we humans are immune to.


That's so true. I've never seen any fat beer-drinking humans.
 
2013-09-14 04:27:32 PM
This experiment is simply another shallow attempt to prove that animals don't express conscience thought, and therefore humans dominance over them is justified.

By using the dog as the model, something many people can relate to, this experiment is really trying to reinforce the idea that animals don't possess intelligence or personality, when almost everyone who has ever owned a dog, or cat, or bird, intuitively knows they do have thoughts, they do dream, and they do have a desire to be loved.

Cows, pigs, chickens, goats, and all animals that are routinely controlled by humans using implements and treachery, are quite capable of feeling and thinking. Anyone who's ever seen a cat give birth to kittens has witnessed first hand that humans do not hold a patient on a mothers love for its offspring, all animals possess the capacity for nurturing.

"I am increasingly convinced that one of humankind's most grievous sins is our anthropocentrism. By cutting ourselves off from the rest of creation, we are left bereft of awe and wonder and therefore of reverence and gratitude. We violate our very beings, and we have nothing but trivia to teach our young."-Matthew Fox
 
2013-09-14 04:34:19 PM

Lusebagage: all animals possess the capacity for nurturing.


Actually, only mammals and birds (and a few select others) raise their young. The vast majority of life on the planet abandons their young shortly after birth (or even before).
 
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