vegaswench: On the positive side, it will shut up the Jeff Gordon fans. They've been insufferable this week. But this is a poor decision by France, one among many as of late. Wow.
Wild Eyed and Wicked: vegaswench: On the positive side, it will shut up the Jeff Gordon fans. They've been insufferable this week. But this is a poor decision by France, one among many as of late. Wow.My boyfriend, who is a huge Gordon fan, said that he should have done better all year long and he would not be in this position.I told him that Gordon would be added by Friday afternoon. He said I was crazy...I don't know if this was the right decision yet but damned if this was not a farked up mess.
Tom_Slick: They should have shortened the chase to 9 races and made everyone race in this week.
Wild Eyed and Wicked: My boyfriend, who is a huge Gordon fan
freak7: Nobody should be biatching about this, it's absolutely the right thing to do given the circumstances.
smerfnablin: I'm surprised they just make the chase to 16 drivers and tell the other 27 drivers to take the last 10 races offThat way we can get the classic IROC race of champions/make it better and have chad setup all 16 cars...
soopey: Tom_Slick: They should have shortened the chase to 9 races and made everyone race in this week.This is probably the most sensible solution I've heard yet. Even better, it puts New Hampshire back as the first race in the Chase like it should be. /Go DIAF Bruton Smith
technomuse: The whole thing with "Honest Ave" starting the truck race after *this* week seemed a bit...ironic.
smerfnablin: Brian France basically implied it is within his power to do so!
Sugarpuss O'Shea: Help a new fan out. Is it true that NASCAR doesn't have a published rule book? So they can pretty much make up the Chase rules as they go along? I can't imagine a similar situation in the NFL or MLB.
HamstersFromHell: Now do you see why things aren't right? I could give a damn if Jeffy got back in, the point is Logano should have been hit as hard (or harder) than MWR for the SAME offense. To add a 13th spot just to make Jeffy happy stinks. Jeff should have taken Logano's place. And to be honest, Truex shouldn't have been docked anything...he's just out there trying to drive hard and do the best he can.
freak7: So you want to dock Lugano for doing nothing wrong while forgiving Truex? How does that possibly make any sense?
freak7: I get it now, people hate Lugano so he should be booted.
Tom_Slick: Sugarpuss O'Shea: Help a new fan out. Is it true that NASCAR doesn't have a published rule book? So they can pretty much make up the Chase rules as they go along? I can't imagine a similar situation in the NFL or MLB.There is no equivalent of a Players Union in NASCAR, essentially if you want to race at that level you have to do whatever the France family deems necessary. So they can do whatever they want. Their contracts are with TV and Sponsors as long as the races happen that's all that matters. The drivers and team owners have no rights not given to them by the France family, and those rights can be rescinded at anytime.It is worse than the WWE since at least the wrestlers have a contract with the WWE and have a legal recourse. The teams are invited to race and that invitation can be pulled at anytime for any reason with no explanation.
Sugarpuss O'Shea: I can't help but think that the drivers need a players union, independent of their teams.
Clutch2013: That, plus his team's caught on tape doing the same shiat MWR pulled.
HamstersFromHell: I kinda misworded that. It should be an either/or thing. If you dock Truex, you are bound by common sense to dock Logano. If you don't dock Logano, then rescind Truex's penalty. That better?
HamstersFromHell: Sugarpuss O'Shea: Help a new fan out. Is it true that NASCAR doesn't have a published rule book? So they can pretty much make up the Chase rules as they go along? I can't imagine a similar situation in the NFL or MLB.They have one, it's just obtainable for us "commoners".The problem with it is that it doesn't specify *anything* that MWR did as specifically being illegal.I don't have a link handy, but read Brian Vicker's letter in USA Today.All NASCAR has in the old standby Rule 12.4A12.4A: General Scope of PenaltiesAny member who performs an act or participates in actions deemed by NASCAR Officials as detrimental to stock car racing or to NASCAR: a fine, and/or disqualification, and/or loss of Championship points, and/or loss of finishing position(s) in the Event, and/or probation, and/or suspension.Basically, it gives France and Helton absolute power over what they do or do not like. But NASCAR abuses the hell out of this little rule, ask Denny Hamlin. They use it as a "gag order" to keep the drivers in line with any criticism of the oh so holy NASCAR.:
Tom_Slick: Sugarpuss O'Shea: I can't help but think that the drivers need a players union, independent of their teams.Last time they tried that the Teamsters backed down. Let's just say the France family has connections that wold make Don Corleone jealous.
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