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2013-09-13 08:44:24 AM
It's the tard pox. It hits the parents first, but silently.
 
2013-09-13 08:46:21 AM
Jenny McCarthy unavailable for comment.
 
2013-09-13 08:46:50 AM
Good luck.  I'm behind 7 vaccines
 
2013-09-13 08:47:39 AM

GoldSpider: Jenny McCarthy

unavailable for comment. rubbing her hands together in fiendish glee.
 
2013-09-13 08:49:34 AM
Fully vaccinated, Biatches!!

Really, this sucks for those who would vaccinate but can't.
 
2013-09-13 08:49:35 AM
Vaccinate...or meet your fate.

/should become czar of the CDC with dope rhymes like that
 
2013-09-13 08:51:32 AM
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2013-09-13 08:54:13 AM
GOD DAMMIT
 
2013-09-13 08:56:03 AM
a.abcnews.com

Have you called Jenny yet?
 
2013-09-13 09:01:15 AM
Couldn't have put it better myself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
 
2013-09-13 09:05:05 AM
Measles is a nasty disease, even if you survive it. Encephalitis is no joke and the scarring on the lungs isn't exactly fun to live with.

Not to mention the fact that infants too young to be vaccinated can die from it quite easily. You don't even have to be present when they are to be a vector since it hangs around for so long.

Maybe we should start charging antivaxxers with public endangerment and threatening jail time for their completely selfish and stupid behavior.
 
2013-09-13 09:05:49 AM
Immunity, biatches!

/itch just thinking about it
//never again
 
2013-09-13 09:12:43 AM
"Philosophical differences?"  Is that what we're calling stupid nowadays?
 
2013-09-13 09:17:15 AM
vaccine truthers are morons anyways.  if this culls that part of the herd, i'm ok with it.
 
2013-09-13 09:18:46 AM

gnosis301: "Philosophical differences?"  Is that what we're calling stupid nowadays?


You've just encapsulated society in one simple sentence.
 
2013-09-13 09:24:59 AM

ginandbacon: Measles is a nasty disease, even if you survive it. Encephalitis is no joke and the scarring on the lungs isn't exactly fun to live with.

Not to mention the fact that infants too young to be vaccinated can die from it quite easily. You don't even have to be present when they are to be a vector since it hangs around for so long.

Maybe we should start charging antivaxxers with public endangerment and threatening jail time for their completely selfish and stupid behavior.


This is a linked article about halfway down.  Texas battling whooping cough epidemic

On Sept. 3, had reported 2,062 pertussis cases. Two deaths this year have been recorded so far, and they both occurred in children too young to be vaccinated.
 
2013-09-13 09:26:40 AM
Jenny McCarthy:

"Don't vaccinate your kids, but have one of these Blu e-cigs that I'm shilling now."

The hypocrisy and stupidity! It burns!
 
2013-09-13 09:26:55 AM
From the article:  The CDC said recent misinformation about the measles vaccine -- including a since-disputed link to developing autism from vaccines -- may still be influencing some families.

Disputed?  How about Disproved!
 
2013-09-13 09:40:00 AM

Carn: ginandbacon: Measles is a nasty disease, even if you survive it. Encephalitis is no joke and the scarring on the lungs isn't exactly fun to live with.

Not to mention the fact that infants too young to be vaccinated can die from it quite easily. You don't even have to be present when they are to be a vector since it hangs around for so long.

Maybe we should start charging antivaxxers with public endangerment and threatening jail time for their completely selfish and stupid behavior.

This is a linked article about halfway down.  Texas battling whooping cough epidemic

On Sept. 3, had reported 2,062 pertussis cases. Two deaths this year have been recorded so far, and they both occurred in children too young to be vaccinated.


I saw that. It's so awful. And as far as I'm concerned it's murder.

People forget how high infant mortality rates were before vaccines. Most families wouldn't even get around to naming a child until it was walking.

And then there's a huge population of elderly or at risk who can be killed from the flu. (Infants too, of course.)

Which reminds me, GET YER STINKIN FLU SHOTS! ! ! ! ! ! !
I just got mine last week. Yay! : )
 
2013-09-13 09:41:41 AM

gnosis301: "Philosophical differences?"  Is that what we're calling stupid nowadays?


I was thinking - "Philosophical differences"?  No.  NO.  It's a combination of credulous hippie-wannabe new parents and religious leaders preaching against it.

In other words, stupidity.
 
2013-09-13 09:47:49 AM
The anti-vaxxer idiots should all have to live together in a designated compound isolated from sane people.
 
2013-09-13 09:53:01 AM

ginandbacon: Carn: ginandbacon: Measles is a nasty disease, even if you survive it. Encephalitis is no joke and the scarring on the lungs isn't exactly fun to live with.

Not to mention the fact that infants too young to be vaccinated can die from it quite easily. You don't even have to be present when they are to be a vector since it hangs around for so long.

Maybe we should start charging antivaxxers with public endangerment and threatening jail time for their completely selfish and stupid behavior.

This is a linked article about halfway down.  Texas battling whooping cough epidemic

On Sept. 3, had reported 2,062 pertussis cases. Two deaths this year have been recorded so far, and they both occurred in children too young to be vaccinated.

I saw that. It's so awful. And as far as I'm concerned it's murder.

People forget how high infant mortality rates were before vaccines. Most families wouldn't even get around to naming a child until it was walking.

And then there's a huge population of elderly or at risk who can be killed from the flu. (Infants too, of course.)

Which reminds me, GET YER STINKIN FLU SHOTS! ! ! ! ! ! !
I just got mine last week. Yay! : )


I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.
 
2013-09-13 09:56:45 AM
Again with this thread?
i959.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-13 09:57:27 AM

Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.


You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.
 
2013-09-13 10:02:46 AM

ginandbacon: Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.

You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.


Well they might have and I ignored them cuz I was more concerned about a couple other things at the time.  I got muscle relaxers for my back though and I didn't worry about a damn thing the rest of the day!
 
2013-09-13 10:08:58 AM
Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.
 
2013-09-13 10:09:43 AM

Carn: ginandbacon: Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.

You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.

Well they might have and I ignored them cuz I was more concerned about a couple other things at the time.  I got muscle relaxers for my back though and I didn't worry about a damn thing the rest of the day!


Hahaha!  I'm a big fan of those. Wheeeeeeeeeee!(I hope you're feeling better now.)
 
2013-09-13 10:13:41 AM

Carn: ginandbacon: Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.

You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.

Well they might have and I ignored them cuz I was more concerned about a couple other things at the time.  I got muscle relaxers for my back though and I didn't worry about a damn thing the rest of the day!


Do they still diagnose "Back Spasms" in this day and age?

[cue 90s' music montage]

Ages ago, in college, my back was wrecked for what seemed like no real reason.  So, I went to the ER and they said "back spasms" and gave me a boatload of percocets and some sort of muscle relaxers and told me not to make any plans for the next few days.

Turns out, it was an arthritis flare up, but man...  Those were some wonderful drugs.
 
2013-09-13 10:16:20 AM

Vodka Zombie: Carn: ginandbacon: Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.

You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.

Well they might have and I ignored them cuz I was more concerned about a couple other things at the time.  I got muscle relaxers for my back though and I didn't worry about a damn thing the rest of the day!

Do they still diagnose "Back Spasms" in this day and age?

[cue 90s' music montage]

Ages ago, in college, my back was wrecked for what seemed like no real reason.  So, I went to the ER and they said "back spasms" and gave me a boatload of percocets and some sort of muscle relaxers and told me not to make any plans for the next few days.

Turns out, it was an arthritis flare up, but man...  Those were some wonderful drugs.


Hell yes they do.  Cyclobenzaprine 5mg.  Teeny tiny little pills but maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan they are goooooooooooooooooooooood.

Actually I've only taken them twice because seriously you aren't doing anything if you do.  Going back to the chiro shortly for more electroshock treatment and cracky lackins.
 
2013-09-13 10:18:10 AM

KellyX: Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.


That's a little harsh, but I can see where you're coming from.

I wouldn't have any problem segregating these families and their children from the general population, though.  We understand how diseases work, after all.  If people are taking steps to endanger the population, we should make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.
 
2013-09-13 10:20:04 AM

ginandbacon: Carn: ginandbacon: Carn: I was just at the doc last week and they didn't ask me about it.  I might just go get one at CVS.

You get an e-cookie!

And shame on your doctor's office for not asking you.

Well they might have and I ignored them cuz I was more concerned about a couple other things at the time.  I got muscle relaxers for my back though and I didn't worry about a damn thing the rest of the day!

Hahaha!  I'm a big fan of those. Wheeeeeeeeeee!(I hope you're feeling better now.)


I am thanks.  Luckily it's just my muscles jacked up and no actual spinal injury or slipped disk or anything.
 
2013-09-13 10:25:03 AM

Carn: electroshock treatment and cracky lackins.


o_0 that sounds rather alarming.

Vodka Zombie: KellyX: Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.

That's a little harsh, but I can see where you're coming from.

I wouldn't have any problem segregating these families and their children from the general population, though.  We understand how diseases work, after all.  If people are taking steps to endanger the population, we should make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.


But what would you do with people who have an STD? Or TB? I think it's better to try to keep people in the system so they at least have access to healthcare and there are more opportunities to educate/encourage them to be responsible parents and patients. 

When they pull their kids out of school over this though, I don't really know how you reach them at that point.
 
2013-09-13 10:31:46 AM

Vodka Zombie: KellyX: Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.

That's a little harsh, but I can see where you're coming from.

I wouldn't have any problem segregating these families and their children from the general population, though.  We understand how diseases work, after all.  If people are taking steps to endanger the population, we should make it as difficult as possible for them to do so.


The sad part is the kids are the innocent victims of their parents stupidity. I don't see how segregating them to have to suffer their parents stupidity is fair, unless you want to go to further extremes (I was being nice in saving the kids) and sterilize the kids too to prevent their genes from going into another generation.

I'd be okay with that too.

/but I was trying to be fair and hoping the kids intelligence could be fixed via environment, that it wasn't genetics entirely...
 
2013-09-13 10:33:41 AM

ginandbacon: But what would you do with people who have an STD? Or TB? I think it's better to try to keep people in the system so they at least have access to healthcare and there are more opportunities to educate/encourage them to be responsible parents and patients. 

When they pull their kids out of school over this though, I don't really know how you reach them at that point.


Which is why I propose taking the kids from them, they've shown they clearly don't have the kids best interest in mind.
 
2013-09-13 10:34:22 AM

gnosis301: "Philosophical differences?"  Is that what we're calling stupid nowadays?


You use faith-based math to count to potato.
 
2013-09-13 10:35:10 AM
It's a post-natal Darwinian cull for the stupid.
 
2013-09-13 10:37:06 AM

KellyX: ginandbacon: But what would you do with people who have an STD? Or TB? I think it's better to try to keep people in the system so they at least have access to healthcare and there are more opportunities to educate/encourage them to be responsible parents and patients. 

When they pull their kids out of school over this though, I don't really know how you reach them at that point.

Which is why I propose taking the kids from them, they've shown they clearly don't have the kids best interest in mind.


I'm not sure putting them in foster care is the best solution. It's a pretty grim fate for most kids.

But I get your disgust. I have a friend (super lib, very educated, lives in NYC) who is always posting some crap about natural alternatives to vaccines and I just want to slap her. Except not really. But kind of.
 
2013-09-13 10:37:49 AM

KellyX: Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.


While you're my kind of despot, may I point out that the kids of stupids are likely stupid themselves, so let 'em get measles, die or go sterile, and THEN sterilize the parents. Win for the species.

/feelin' kinda mulish.
 
2013-09-13 10:42:07 AM

ginandbacon: Carn: electroshock treatment and cracky lackins.

o_0 that sounds rather alarming.


it's that little machine with the electrodes and it shocks your muscles into normal behavior.  It felt really good and my back felt way better.
 
2013-09-13 10:46:17 AM

gnosis301: "Philosophical differences?"  Is that what we're calling stupid nowadays?


Anti-vaccers believe they shouldn't be punched in the gonads.

They and I have philosophical differences.
 
2013-09-13 10:47:50 AM

Valiente: KellyX: Either make vaccines required by law or if parents refuse, take the kids from them to be fostered, vaccinated, and then sterilize the parents for being too farking stupid to breed anymore.

While you're my kind of despot, may I point out that the kids of stupids are likely stupid themselves, so let 'em get measles, die or go sterile, and THEN sterilize the parents. Win for the species.

/feelin' kinda mulish.


I don't object to the purging of our genepool. People that know me know where I stand on humanity's genes...

For the record though, I think our species needs a major genepool fix, I realize that we're so intermixed (by that I mean bad genes, not race) that we can't just say that if you are prone to allergies, you can't breed anymore, stuff like this has to be fixed via genetic engineering over the course of generations, but when people are so farking stupid like these anti-vaccine types, I just don't think they should be allowed to continue spreading their genes anymore, and in the extreme case, if they have kids, those kids should be sterilized as well... this could be fixed via genetic engineering too in the future I'd hope, but fark if I hate seeing all the suffering and stupidity being spread to others.
 
2013-09-13 10:50:43 AM
Hooray for more measles threads!  This is what I posted on yesterday's thread...

Measles -- very very real, and quite unpleasant.  I was one of the US's few 2011 cases, indeed I think that means I alone was 0.5% of all the cases in the USA in 2011.  How did I get it despite having all my shots as a kid?  I researched it and this is what I found out:

Un - I'm 45.  To quote the MA Dep't of Health - "yeah the vaccine wasn't very good back then."

Deux - The gov't decided that maybe you should have a SECOND (booster) shot, this was in 1990 just as I was graduating from the last place that gave a shiat about my vaccinations.  Nobody told me that.

Trois - Don't go to the Musee D'Orsay in Paris on "free day".  They have tens of thousands of cases of measles in Europe every year.

If you're in my age cohort, you like me may be in that "unknown vaccination status" category -- that's how you go in the books if you don't actually have the history in front of you, and/or your wife can't figure it out and you aren't doing the talking because you have a fever of 104 degrees.

The take-away:  If you didn't have both a shot and a follow-up booster, you may not be as well-off as you think you are.  If you're a child of the 60s, I would not be too smug about your immunity to measles.  They can test your antibodies, at least consider doing that before you fly off to Europe.

Still not convinced?  I flew from San Jose to Boston within a day or two of being hella contagious.  I was a little disappointed that I didn't start an epidemic, to be honest.  Why would I do such an irresponsible thing?  Because measles has an incubation period of 5-11 days, and at first you figure you just have a bad cold.

Several days later I went to my first emergency room, where I was misdiagnosed.  That was the day my fever hit 104.  The day after that, I was covered in spots from head to tummy.  At least they aren't itchy like chicken pox, but I had a two-week fever.  The article is right about doctors not knowing what the hell measles looks like, at least not until it's real obvious.  Even then, during my second ER visit, the doctor admitted that she had to look it up on the web.

Great story two years later, but it really sucked at the time.
 
2013-09-13 10:52:16 AM
Of course it would never, ever fly, but I would love to see voluntarily unvaccinated folks/parents who contract the disease in an area where someone else later contracts it charged with assault of some sort. Manslaughter if they die.

Any parent who denies a healthy child a vaccine, and that child later becomes sick, SHOULD be charged. Hell yes.
 
2013-09-13 11:00:05 AM
Adding a bit of original content to today's thread as a public service:

How can I tell when I have the measles?

1 - Fever.  It will come and go for the first few days, but it steadily gets worse.
2 - Redness/spots - not so much, you don't get that until it is RAGING.  You may have a bit of redness around your head/neck/shoulders, which an ER doctor is quite capable of misdiagnosing as "caused by the fever".
3 - Koplic's spots - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koplik%27s_spots.  This is probably the key symptom that my first ER doctor DIDN'T ask about, and that I didn't know about.  I thought I had lacerated my mouth from eating too many pita chips, but it turns out you get gross sores on the inside of your mouth.  This was for me one of the worst things about having the measles, because food doesn't taste good and anything remotely acidic hurts when you eat it.
 
2013-09-13 11:00:37 AM
And I don't think it's come up yet in this thread, but in advance: lack of insurance/money is no excuse for not vaccinating your child. We lost our insurance (job loss) and were broke at the time that both of mine were due for a bunch of vaccines. I asked if we could do just the crucial ones at that time, and make the others up when we had coverage again. No need, said the nurse. Turns out, the government really wants you to vaccinate, and there are a ton of programs that will make vaccines free or dirt cheap for those in that situation. And if you call your local health department and tell them that you have an unvaccinated child and can't access or afford the vaccines, they will bend over backwards helping you out with that.

Other than medical, there really is no excuse.
 
2013-09-13 11:03:22 AM
Measles - the upside!!!

Nobody talks about the good stuff that you get from having the measles:

1 - Lifetime immunity to measles!
2 - Quick and easy weight loss -- I dropped 15 pounds in two weeks.  You can too, because you don't have much appetite with a high fever and a sore mouth (see previous post).

Sadly I gained it all back, I had an almost insatiable desire for ice cream after I got better.
 
2013-09-13 11:18:03 AM

Hate Tank: Hooray for more measles threads!  This is what I posted on yesterday's thread...

Measles -- very very real, and quite unpleasant.  I was one of the US's few 2011 cases, indeed I think that means I alone was 0.5% of all the cases in the USA in 2011.  How did I get it despite having all my shots as a kid?  I researched it and this is what I found out:

Un - I'm 45.  To quote the MA Dep't of Health - "yeah the vaccine wasn't very good back then."

Deux - The gov't decided that maybe you should have a SECOND (booster) shot, this was in 1990 just as I was graduating from the last place that gave a shiat about my vaccinations.  Nobody told me that.

Trois - Don't go to the Musee D'Orsay in Paris on "free day".  They have tens of thousands of cases of measles in Europe every year.

If you're in my age cohort, you like me may be in that "unknown vaccination status" category -- that's how you go in the books if you don't actually have the history in front of you, and/or your wife can't figure it out and you aren't doing the talking because you have a fever of 104 degrees.

The take-away:  If you didn't have both a shot and a follow-up booster, you may not be as well-off as you think you are.  If you're a child of the 60s, I would not be too smug about your immunity to measles.  They can test your antibodies, at least consider doing that before you fly off to Europe.

Still not convinced?  I flew from San Jose to Boston within a day or two of being hella contagious.  I was a little disappointed that I didn't start an epidemic, to be honest.  Why would I do such an irresponsible thing?  Because measles has an incubation period of 5-11 days, and at first you figure you just have a bad cold.

Several days later I went to my first emergency room, where I was misdiagnosed.  That was the day my fever hit 104.  The day after that, I was covered in spots from head to tummy.  At least they aren't itchy like chicken pox, but I had a two-week fever.  The article is right about doctors ...


You just scared the shiat out of me. I'm 46. I have no idea if I ever got a booster shot. I did live in Europe for a few years and traveled there a lot though. I'm going in for a follow up with my doc in three months to check my LDL (he's putting me on statins--grumble) and I'll bring it up with him. I have a feeling I did get a booster and just don't remember. Yikes. I would REALLY hate to be or have been a vector for something so preventable and so dangerous.
 
2013-09-13 11:19:26 AM

ginandbacon: You just scared the shiat out of me. I'm 46. I have no idea if I ever got a booster shot. I did live in Europe for a few years and traveled there a lot though. I'm going in for a follow up with my doc in three months to check my LDL (he's putting me on statins--grumble) and I'll bring it up with him. I have a feeling I did get a booster and just don't remember. Yikes. I would REALLY hate to be or have been a vector for something so preventable and so dangerous.


I imagine it's covered under health insurance, could always have your doctor check your medical history, and a booster shot probably doesn't hurt any either.
 
2013-09-13 11:26:49 AM

KellyX: ginandbacon: You just scared the shiat out of me. I'm 46. I have no idea if I ever got a booster shot. I did live in Europe for a few years and traveled there a lot though. I'm going in for a follow up with my doc in three months to check my LDL (he's putting me on statins--grumble) and I'll bring it up with him. I have a feeling I did get a booster and just don't remember. Yikes. I would REALLY hate to be or have been a vector for something so preventable and so dangerous.

I imagine it's covered under health insurance, could always have your doctor check your medical history, and a booster shot probably doesn't hurt any either.


Yeah, I am definitely bringing it up with him when I go in. He's really good on public health issues so I imagine he'll at least check for antibodies. I've had very good health insurance for most of my life, so I feel like I would have gotten the booster at some point. 

Still...yikes.
 
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