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2013-09-13 07:48:21 AM  
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WHAR CRICKETS?  WHAR?
 
2013-09-13 07:58:57 AM  
I've had more driveway moments than I can count.
 
2013-09-13 08:40:58 AM  

kimwim: I've had more driveway moments than I can count.


I don't have "driveway" moments, but that's because I take the radio with me.

I don't have an actual broadcast receiver in my car, so I use my ham radio handheld to listen to the local NPR station.  That means I just leave it on and take it with me if it's something interesting, and quite often, there is.

Also, as a side note, they did a good story about the Colorado recall yesterday during ATC.  It confirms what I've often said:  After a tragedy, support for gun control is a mile wide, but only an inch deep.  The people who care about gun rights are much, much more likely to vote solely on that issue.  The support is narrower, but much deeper.  And that's what really counts.

The report does skip over one thing that apparently *REALLY* pissed off some gun owners in Colorado, though:

It would be accurate to say that the recall campaign was driven by opposition to the anti-gun bills which Morse and Giron pushed through the legislature. But this is only the first part of the story. As it turns out, Morse and Giron sealed their fates on March 4, the day that the anti-gun bills were heard in Senate committees. At Morse's instruction, only 90 minutes of testimony per side were allowed on each of the gun bills. As a result, hundreds of Colorado citizens were prevented from testifying even briefly. Many of them had driven hours to come to the Capitol, traveling from all over the state.

That same day, 30 Sheriffs came to testify. They too were shut out, with only a single Sheriff allowed to testify on any given bill. So while one Sheriff testified, others stood up with him in support.

Admirably, Morse had urged his Committee Chairs to be polite and courteous to all witnesses, and they were. But President Morse did not follow the standard practice of the Colorado legislature, by which any citizen who wishes to testify is allowed to be heard, at least briefly. The patient endurance of Colorado legislative committees which have heard hour upon hour of testimony on bills about gay rights, motorcycle helmets, and other social controversies is a tribute to our republican form of government.

When Morse shut that down, and Chairperson Giron went along, they crossed the double-red line of Colorado government. Had the seven gun control bills (one of which I testified in favor) been heard on March 4-6, instead of being rammed through committees on March 4, the recall might never have happened. It's one thing to lose; it's another to thing to lose when you didn't even have the opportunity to present your reasoning. While the gun control bills were before the Senate in March, President Morse urged his caucus to stop reading emails, to stop reading letters from constituents, to stop listening to voicemails, to vote for the gun bills and ignore the constituents. Giron, presciently following this strategy, had allowed citizens to raise Second Amendment concerns at a single town hall meeting, and thereafter refused to discuss the issue at public fora
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http://www.volokh.com/2013/09/11/colorado-recalls-explained/

That's part of what is driving the opposition to the NY SAFE Act, which was passed under even more shady conditions.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-13 08:50:36 AM  
I figured out a lot of that clock already. One reason I get radio news from NPR is the predictability of a news summary at the top of the hour, and the bottom during periods they aren't running hourlong programs. I notice the brief pause in national news where they have an optional cutaway to local news. I know a certain pause on one station is followed by sponsor announcements, but another station swaps sponsor announcements and weather.  In brief, I listen to too much NPR and I am not even addicted to the long programs.
 
2013-09-13 08:52:15 AM  
They forgot the pie slices for communist/anti-Israel/unAmerican/bleeding-heart/left-wing propaganda.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-13 08:53:32 AM  
Rev. Skarekroe

I think I heard an ad for Al Jazeera on NPR last month.
 
2013-09-13 09:09:57 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: They forgot the pie slices for communist/anti-Israel/unAmerican/bleeding-heart/left-wing propaganda.


Cry moar
 
2013-09-13 10:19:13 AM  

dittybopper: [www.slate.com image 590x764]

WHAR CRICKETS?  WHAR?


Not seeing the "DEAD AIR" slot I constantly hear.
 
2013-09-13 10:22:04 AM  
Oh great, another podcast to suck away my free time.
 
2013-09-13 10:23:00 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: They forgot the pie slices for communist/anti-Israel/unAmerican/bleeding-heart/left-wing propaganda.


Facts really bother you guys a lot, don't they?  Don't worry Fox news will still protect you from the mean nasty true things, and give you nice shiny graphics to distract your little chimp-brain.
 
2013-09-13 10:23:00 AM  

ZAZ: Rev. Skarekroe

I think I heard an ad for Al Jazeera on NPR last month.


You misheard. It was an ad for NPR's new music show, "All Jazz Here-a".
 
2013-09-13 10:25:26 AM  
It's a farking format clock! How is this news?!  here's one from 1967 from KHJ. NPR reinvents the wheel!  1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-13 10:26:39 AM  
Is "One Ring" a euphemism for speech impediments?  (DNRTFA)  Public radio abounds with absurd speech impediments.  It's one thing to "have a face for radio" but a lot of the elocution is more like electrocution.  How do they get the damned job?
 
2013-09-13 10:26:54 AM  
OMFG didn't we get our fill of dittyderp's NPR hard-on rhetoric yesterday, mods?!

rg83.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-13 10:27:37 AM  

oxnard_montalvo: It's a farking format clock! How is this news?!  here's one from 1967 from KHJ. NPR reinvents the wheel!  [1.bp.blogspot.com image 549x700]


It did sound a bit like an industry standard.
 
2013-09-13 10:27:55 AM  
With Car Talk, the driveway moment is actually spent under the car or balanced on the fender peering into the car. wondering "What the hell is that?"
 
2013-09-13 10:27:55 AM  
I already knew everything in that highly informative blog by watching WKRP as a child.
 
2013-09-13 10:32:26 AM  
Jesus. farking. Christ. Do we really need a daily NPR thread posted by somebody who has never listened to NPR? They were a daily infomercial for the TeaBaggers in '09.
 
2013-09-13 10:32:40 AM  
But did we compare and contrast how PBS uses their format clock?
 
2013-09-13 10:32:57 AM  

CoonAce: Is "One Ring" a euphemism for speech impediments?  (DNRTFA)  Public radio abounds with absurd speech impediments.  It's one thing to "have a face for radio" but a lot of the elocution is more like electrocution.  How do they get the damned job?


Yeah.  Diane Rheem should have been put out to pasture years ago.
 
2013-09-13 10:36:23 AM  

fireclown: CoonAce: Is "One Ring" a euphemism for speech impediments?  (DNRTFA)  Public radio abounds with absurd speech impediments.  It's one thing to "have a face for radio" but a lot of the elocution is more like electrocution.  How do they get the damned job?

Yeah.  Diane Rheem should have been put out to pasture years ago.


This is what I imagine she looks like:

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-09-13 10:44:10 AM  

fireclown: CoonAce: Is "One Ring" a euphemism for speech impediments?  (DNRTFA)  Public radio abounds with absurd speech impediments.  It's one thing to "have a face for radio" but a lot of the elocution is more like electrocution.  How do they get the damned job?

Yeah.  Diane Rheem should have been put out to pasture years ago.


She had a larynx disorder a few years ago; she sounds a lot better today than she did in 2007.

And I've not really heard speech impediments as much as people sitting too close to the mike and all you can hear is their lips or mouths smacking.  For the love of Kasell, swallow your farking saliva before you start talking.
 
2013-09-13 10:47:00 AM  
LIBS! LIBS! LIBS!!!
 
2013-09-13 10:47:08 AM  

ZAZ: Rev. Skarekroe

I think I heard an ad for Al Jazeera on NPR last month.


Nonono...that's not an ad, that's -underwriting-. Big difference....Biiiiiiiiiiiig difference.....um, but the difference is...uh....um....no call to action.
 
2013-09-13 10:57:01 AM  
Clock has always ruled broadcasting, both public & commercial.  Mayhap not quite since Day One, but since not more than  a year, tops, after that.
Appreciate dittybopper's comments.  ARL Fifty-three words, 73 de N8CGM
 
2013-09-13 10:59:31 AM  

oxnard_montalvo: It's a farking format clock! How is this news?!  here's one from 1967 from KHJ. NPR reinvents the wheel!  [1.bp.blogspot.com image 549x700]


Yeah, back in the '80s I worked at a shiatty little local AM station and we used a format clock like that.
 
2013-09-13 11:04:42 AM  
Cygnus God of Balance : OMFG didn't we get our fill of dittyderp's NPR hard-on rhetoric yesterday, mods?!
[rg83.files.wordpress.com image 500x280]

You mean derp like this:

I use my ham radio handheld to listen to the local NPR station.  That means I just leave it on and take it with me if it's something interesting, and quite often, there is.

Also, as a side note, they did a good story about the Colorado recall yesterday during ATC.


Because it's clear from that that I'm a mouth-breathing neanderthalic NPR-hater of the highest order who doesn't listen to it at all.

/From Washington, I'm Jack's beer.
//From this day forth, that is how you will hear that announcement.
 
2013-09-13 11:05:41 AM  

laulaja: Clock has always ruled broadcasting, both public & commercial.  Mayhap not quite since Day One, but since not more than  a year, tops, after that.
Appreciate dittybopper's comments.  ARL Fifty-three words, 73 de N8CGM


Favorited as a ham, keep an eye out for the next Fark QSO Party, which should happen Real Soon Now.
 
2013-09-13 11:06:20 AM  

oxnard_montalvo: It's a farking format clock! How is this news?!  here's one from 1967 from KHJ. NPR reinvents the wheel!  [1.bp.blogspot.com image 549x700]


It isn't, but complaining about NPR seems to be the derp du jour.
 
2013-09-13 11:15:24 AM  

mainsail: Nonono...that's not an ad, that's -underwriting-. Big difference....Biiiiiiiiiiiig difference.....um, but the difference is...uh....um....no call to action.


NPR actually does a pretty damn good job at keeping a firewall between their underwriters and their staffers, and besides the bulk of funding still comes from local stations purchasing content and that money is almost nearly all locally sourced funds from listeners and local businesses.

Unless you are lucky and live in an area like mine and your station is part of a jointly funded sponsorship with another public entity, mine as an example is technically a charter of the school corporation here.

WVPE, and because they are so well funded they carry more programming content than even WBEZ in Chicago.
 
2013-09-13 11:29:30 AM  
As someone who programmed automation for 6 NPR affiliate stations, I'm getting a kick out of some of these posts.
 
2013-09-13 11:32:37 AM  

laulaja: Clock has always ruled broadcasting, both public & commercial.  Mayhap not quite since Day One, but since not more than  a year, tops, after that.


You'd be surprised... BBC Radio didn't used to follow a fixed clock format, other than general "this hour is this show, that hour is that show" rules, until around the mid-90s. It was actually getting carried on NPR affiliate stations that forced them to start following the 1-minute billboard/5 minute news break NPR clock.
 
2013-09-13 11:33:56 AM  

dittybopper: Cygnus God of Balance : OMFG didn't we get our fill of dittyderp's NPR hard-on rhetoric yesterday, mods?!
[rg83.files.wordpress.com image 500x280]

You mean derp like this:

I use my ham radio handheld to listen to the local NPR station.  That means I just leave it on and take it with me if it's something interesting, and quite often, there is.

Also, as a side note, they did a good story about the Colorado recall yesterday during ATC.

Because it's clear from that that I'm a mouth-breathing neanderthalic NPR-hater of the highest order who doesn't listen to it at all.

/From Washington, I'm Jack's beer.
//From this day forth, that is how you will hear that announcement.


WUT??
The derp to which I refer involves:

* Submitting an article sanctimoniously calling out NPR for intentionally avoiding a followup report on a topic from which you incorrectly assumed that they ran and hid.
* Initially trying to blame your ineptitude at perfoming a simple search on the "programmers".
* Realizing the gravity of derptitude and retracting, but perpetuating the thread from amusing to utterly annoying.
* Capitalizing on the perceived victory for the hit count of the previous, taking it upon yourself to again target NPR by submitting a tangential article the next day.

I don't listen to NPR, so if you're citing references to prove that you do, they're lost on me.  I'm just pointing out a pattern of obsessive tendencies.
 
2013-09-13 11:38:52 AM  

Cygnus God of Balance: I don't listen to NPR,


I think you're in the wrong thread. You should try clicking that little box with the x in the upper right of the window.
 
2013-09-13 11:44:51 AM  

Cygnus God of Balance: I'm just pointing out a pattern of obsessive tendencies.


One fark-up doesn't constitute a pattern.
 
2013-09-13 11:46:47 AM  

Cygnus God of Balance: * Realizing the gravity of derptitude and retracting, but perpetuating the thread from amusing to utterly annoying.
* Capitalizing on the perceived victory for the hit count of the previous, taking it upon yourself to again target NPR by submitting a tangential article the next day.


You *ARE* new to Fark, aren't you?
 
2013-09-13 11:48:11 AM  

Theaetetus: Cygnus God of Balance: I don't listen to NPR,

I think you're in the wrong thread. You should try clicking that little box with the x in the upper right of the window.


Oh my bad - I must have missed that prerequisite in the posting guidelines.  Duly noted, sir.
 
2013-09-13 12:12:46 PM  

dittybopper: Cygnus God of Balance: * Realizing the gravity of derptitude and retracting, but perpetuating the thread from amusing to utterly annoying.
* Capitalizing on the perceived victory for the hit count of the previous, taking it upon yourself to again target NPR by submitting a tangential article the next day.

You *ARE* new to Fark, aren't you?


That seriously has to be the most pathetic thing uttered on any message board.  Pathetic in the sense that you are conveying some sense of rightous superiority for tenure in a freakin (sorry, should that be "farkin"? - wtfever) internet chat room. It reeks of hollow fraternal bond to a core of virtual strangers. It reads like you were excluded from the cool cliques earlier in life, and now you're trying to play the part of the "insider" here.

Whatever - carry on..
 
2013-09-13 12:19:45 PM  
I envisioned something along the lines of butthole-tattoo girl.
 
2013-09-13 12:58:59 PM  

Sudlow: Oh great, another podcast to suck away my free time.


99 Percent Invisible is great, especially if you've exhausted all your RadioLab episodes. More of a design/architecture focus.
 
2013-09-13 01:00:06 PM  

kimwim: I've had more driveway moments than I can count.


Me too when I was in high skool,  but none of them involved a radio.  Back seat wrestling for the win.
 
2013-09-13 01:05:18 PM  
Put on the ring!

/ the ring!
 
2013-09-13 01:09:50 PM  

kimwim: I've had more driveway moments than I can count.


So have I.
 
2013-09-13 01:15:06 PM  

dittybopper: kimwim: I've had more driveway moments than I can count.

I don't have "driveway" moments, but that's because I take the radio with me.

I don't have an actual broadcast receiver in my car, so I use my ham radio handheld to listen to the local NPR station.  That means I just leave it on and take it with me if it's something interesting, and quite often, there is.

Also, as a side note, they did a good story about the Colorado recall yesterday during ATC.  It confirms what I've often said:  After a tragedy, support for gun control is a mile wide, but only an inch deep.  The people who care about gun rights are much, much more likely to vote solely on that issue.  The support is narrower, but much deeper.  And that's what really counts.

The report does skip over one thing that apparently *REALLY* pissed off some gun owners in Colorado, though:

It would be accurate to say that the recall campaign was driven by opposition to the anti-gun bills which Morse and Giron pushed through the legislature. But this is only the first part of the story. As it turns out, Morse and Giron sealed their fates on March 4, the day that the anti-gun bills were heard in Senate committees. At Morse's instruction, only 90 minutes of testimony per side were allowed on each of the gun bills. As a result, hundreds of Colorado citizens were prevented from testifying even briefly. Many of them had driven hours to come to the Capitol, traveling from all over the state.

That same day, 30 Sheriffs came to testify. They too were shut out, with only a single Sheriff allowed to testify on any given bill. So while one Sheriff testified, others stood up with him in support.

Admirably, Morse had urged his Committee Chairs to be polite and courteous to all witnesses, and they were. But President Morse did not follow the standard practice of the Colorado legislature, by which any citizen who wishes to testify is allowed to be heard, at least briefly. The patient endurance of Colorado legislative committe ...


This is such a load of crap.

What the fark were the 30 sheriffs going to say?  BOO HISS!  They were just going to repeat the same hillbilly nonsense NRA b.s. the first guy did.
 
2013-09-13 01:16:05 PM  

vudukungfu: dittybopper: [www.slate.com image 590x764]

WHAR CRICKETS?  WHAR?

Not seeing the "DEAD AIR" slot I constantly hear.


That might be the result of your local station not inserting their tidbits, like a suggested news break or local underwriting statement (or these tidbits being the wrong length).  If the local station isn't on the ball, there can be small amounts of dead air, or in the case of many NPR-subscribed stations, a few minutes of mild background music (used to fade into and out of the national NPR feed).  Good local stations (e.g., 89.3 KPCC in Pasadena) watch their clocks closely, too, and the result is a seamless broadcast experience for the listener.
 
2013-09-13 01:16:20 PM  

ZAZ: Rev. Skarekroe

I think I heard an ad for Al Jazeera on NPR last month.


So? Al Jazeera America is probably ranks first or second when it comes to international cable TV news. BBC is probably first. CNN International is pretty good, MUCH better than regular CNN, but they don't have the reporting muscle in the world's hot zones that the other two do.
 
2013-09-13 01:38:46 PM  
Cygnus God of Balance: Some snarky scheisse about dittybopper followed by: Whatever - carry on..

I have dittybopper favorited with a comment, "'Carry On My Wayward Son' in French". So now I'm seeing Kansas and Colorado versus butthurt.

/I butt hurt myself today, to see if I still feel myself
 
2013-09-13 01:51:41 PM  

dittybopper: Cygnus God of Balance : OMFG didn't we get our fill of dittyderp's NPR hard-on rhetoric yesterday, mods?!
[rg83.files.wordpress.com image 500x280]

You mean derp like this:

I use my ham radio handheld to listen to the local NPR station.  That means I just leave it on and take it with me if it's something interesting, and quite often, there is.

Also, as a side note, they did a good story about the Colorado recall yesterday during ATC.

Because it's clear from that that I'm a mouth-breathing neanderthalic NPR-hater of the highest order who doesn't listen to it at all.

/From Washington, I'm Jack's beer.
//From this day forth, that is how you will hear that announcement.


Dittybopper, EIP.  I need to tell you something privately.
 
2013-09-13 01:56:39 PM  

pacified: What the fark were the 30 sheriffs going to say?  BOO HISS!  They were just going to repeat the same hillbilly nonsense NRA b.s. the first guy did.


www.jacobzflores.com

Are you seriously arguing against letting people exercise their right under the First Amendment to petition the government, just because you don't care for the Second Amendment?
 
2013-09-13 02:03:30 PM  

oxnard_montalvo: It's a farking format clock! How is this news?!  here's one from 1967 from KHJ. NPR reinvents the wheel!  [1.bp.blogspot.com image 549x700]


It's old hat to anybody who's worked in broadcasting. It might be of mild interest as trivia to those who've never worked in radio/tv, and may not realize that broadcasting is actually quite structured -- especially when it comes to time.

For example, if a commercial comes on the radio, chances are it's either :20, :40: or :50 after the hour.

/Been there, done that, still got the FCC license
 
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