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(LA Times)   Defunding Obamacare will help Democrats   (latimes.com) divider line 14
    More: Cool, obamacare, Democrats, GOP, Bozo the Clown, House Majority Leader  
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2013-09-13 08:30:58 AM  
I guess it will, in that senior citizens who would likely vote Republican will die off in massive waves faster than the GOP can recruit new voters.
 
2013-09-13 08:33:03 AM  
"We must stop this health care from coming, but how?"
 
2013-09-13 08:34:34 AM  
America is a nation of low-information voters.

If this thing were titled BoehnerCare, you'd have seniors voting for it in droves because they thought it'd give them free viagra.
 
2013-09-13 08:36:09 AM  
When will these idiots admit they've lost this one?  Remember how the 2012 election was supposed to be a referendum on Obamacare?  Guess what, Obama got re-elected, and Democrats did better than expected in the house and senate.

As Republicans were so fond of saying in 2001, "you lost, get over it."
 
2013-09-13 08:36:18 AM  
Nope!
 
2013-09-13 08:37:01 AM  
Took a little bit to see through the trap in subby's headline.

I bet you will get a few bites!
 
2013-09-13 08:46:31 AM  
Subby forgot that "democrats" should not be capitalized.
 
2013-09-13 08:59:17 AM  

EyeballKid: I guess it will, in that senior citizens who would likely vote Republican will die off in massive waves faster than the GOP can recruit new voters.


Unfortunately, the elderly already have single payer health care in the form of Medicare.  It's the got-damned "fuk you, I got mine" generation that the GOP is pandering to.
 
2013-09-13 09:10:37 AM  
I'm not exactly a fan of a government shutdown or intentionally tanking the economy to win political gains, but if the GOP insists on self-inflicted wounds, I guess there's not much we can do about that.
 
2013-09-13 09:54:42 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: When will these idiots admit they've lost this one?  Remember how the 2012 election was supposed to be a referendum on Obamacare?  Guess what, Obama got re-elected, and Democrats did better than expected in the house and senate.

As Republicans were so fond of saying in 2001, "you lost, get over it."


You're talking about a party that lost the fight on abortion forty years ago, and they're still trying to get Roe v. Wade overturned.
 
2013-09-13 10:02:14 AM  

Dog Welder: HMS_Blinkin: When will these idiots admit they've lost this one?  Remember how the 2012 election was supposed to be a referendum on Obamacare?  Guess what, Obama got re-elected, and Democrats did better than expected in the house and senate.

As Republicans were so fond of saying in 2001, "you lost, get over it."

You're talking about a party that lost the fight on abortion forty years ago, and they're still trying to get Roe v. Wade overturned.


You're talking about a party that hasn't gotten over the outcome of the Civil War.
 
2013-09-13 10:04:02 AM  

EyeballKid: You're talking about a party that hasn't gotten over the outcome of the Civil War.


But will still pop off a nice "But Lincoln was a Republican!" when it suits their purpose.
 
2013-09-13 10:18:53 AM  

incendi: EyeballKid: You're talking about a party that hasn't gotten over the outcome of the Civil War.

But will still pop off a nice "But Lincoln was a Republican!" when it suits their purpose.


Usually after saying something racist.
 
2013-09-13 12:04:28 PM  

incendi: But will still pop off a nice "But Lincoln was a Republican!" when it suits their purpose.


haha!  I was going to plop that exact line down just to add a bit of spice to a dead thread.



FTFA: Ultimately, Republicans and Democrats will have to compromise on total spending levels, entitlement reforms and taxes. The longer it takes them to strike some kind of deal, the more of these exercises in brinkmanship we'll go through. The House GOP needs to stop fighting a battle on Obamacare it can't win and get to work instead on the long-delayed "grand bargain."

This is the meat of it and the Republicans are playing it very very poorly. Each time they do this, they lose more ground in their negotiations with Obama but a compromise is inevitable. Even if they do pull the suicide switch and shut down the government, it won't stop most of the implementation of the healthcare reform and it will shine the spotlight on the obstructionism and division in the House Republicans.

Remember Boehner saying "I got 99% of what I wanted." How's that big win working out for you, Johnny? Seems to me all you won was a delay and weakening of your position in negotiations.  Christ, your House can't even muster enough votes to pass the Farm bill. You've got nothing, JB, and Obama can smell the fear on you. At best you cobble together a coalition that agrees to continue funding INCLUDING OBAMACARE until some future point where you have a better position and pray the Dems let you slide this one by without too much embarrassment. Good luck! We'll all be watching!
 
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