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2013-09-13 12:14:30 AM
And neither the headline, nor the article actually have anything to do with the quote.  He didn't get to use all the cool toys the kids have these days, so he wants to make another sci-fi film and:

I don't know if it would be directly connected [to The Fifth Element] but it would be the same area and the same genre. So for me it would be connected even if the stories had nothing to do with each other
 
2013-09-13 12:46:18 AM
But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.
 
2013-09-13 12:58:38 AM
The Fifth Element still holds up well.  I watched the Opera Shootout scene from that movie countless times demo-ing surround sound systems and (then new) HDTVs when I was slinging electronics back in the day, but I still enjoy the film.

I'd love to see another sci-fi movie from the same director.
 
2013-09-13 01:02:38 AM
5th Element is one of my favorites

/it's here in the collection in frequent rotation
//for some reason, I really like the closing credit music, among other things
 
2013-09-13 01:10:35 AM
31.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-09-13 01:40:32 AM
Is that what she meant by "multi-pass"?
 
2013-09-13 01:48:40 AM

show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.

 
2013-09-13 01:56:10 AM
Remake the Fifth Element?  Boron!
 
2013-09-13 01:58:05 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: 5th Element is one of my favorites

/it's here in the collection in frequent rotation
//for some reason, I really like the closing credit music, among other things


Peter Gabriel song, written just for the movie, I think.

I also like the taxi chase scene music.. I found the original track by the Pakistani singer accidentally, back in my old music file sharing days.
 
2013-09-13 02:03:59 AM
It's fine the way it is, asshole.
 
2013-09-13 02:05:11 AM
Yo dog, I heard you like thermal bandages...
www.cesarsway.com

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2013-09-13 02:10:20 AM
Now, basically, you put the camera on your shoulder and then you run and then you add a couple of dinosaurs and spaceships.

He's going full Bay.
 
2013-09-13 02:10:58 AM
Sounds like he's just saying that it would be a lot easier and more fun to make a movie like that now.
 
2013-09-13 02:11:27 AM

TuteTibiImperes: The Fifth Element still holds up well.  I watched the Opera Shootout scene from that movie countless times demo-ing surround sound systems and (then new) HDTVs when I was slinging electronics back in the day, but I still enjoy the film.

I'd love to see another sci-fi movie from the same director.

 I don't recall if it did well at the box office, but I really enjoyed the movie and yeah, it made a pretty good demo of both video and audio setups.
/might have replayed the "reconstruction" scene just once or twice. Because leeloo.
 
2013-09-13 02:12:50 AM
Fifth Element is a live-action anime.
 
2013-09-13 02:21:07 AM

JonBuck: Fifth Element is a live-action anime.


It's way too coherent for that

/Though a remake that got rid of Ruby Rhod would be an immense improvement.
 
2013-09-13 02:22:03 AM
Mmmmmmm No. When will we learn. STOP F***ING WITH CLASSICS.
 
2013-09-13 02:22:46 AM
Why remake it? It was .... perfect.
 
2013-09-13 02:23:02 AM
Another Fifth Element movie?

blogtotheoldskool.com
 
2013-09-13 02:30:10 AM
The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...
 
2013-09-13 02:45:26 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


It's a fun movie.  Like The Princess Bride.
 
2013-09-13 02:58:52 AM
i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?
 
2013-09-13 03:00:57 AM
Another case of dumb Subby not reading the article.
 
2013-09-13 03:01:06 AM

some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?


Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.
 
2013-09-13 03:04:46 AM

kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.


Ditto.  It's a fun movie.  Don't try to get a deep meaning out of it (even though they try for that).

And the Ruby Rhod character is farking hilarious, though you'll want to punch him in the face (multiple times).
 
2013-09-13 03:05:41 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


It's a good example of how a movie can be better than the sum of its parts. There are a a number of perfectly valid criticisms that can be leveled at it (silly story, questionable casting and some really bad acting, stilted dialogue, Chris Tucker turned up to 11 and so on) but for some reason, it just works.
 
2013-09-13 03:06:14 AM

kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.


My favorite Bruce Willis movie by far.  Also a standout, screwball performance by Gary Oldman.  And Chris Tucker as a 23rd century radio personality.
 
2013-09-13 03:06:20 AM

LucklessWonder: JonBuck: Fifth Element is a live-action anime.

It's way too coherent for that

/Though a remake that got rid of Ruby Rhod would be an immense improvement.


Heresy, he's a very fun character.
 
2013-09-13 03:08:30 AM

Snapper Carr: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...

It's a good example of how a movie can be better than the sum of its parts. There are a a number of perfectly valid criticisms that can be leveled at it (silly story, questionable casting and some really bad acting, stilted dialogue, Chris Tucker turned up to 11 and so on) but for some reason, it just works.


It's a movie that should under no circumstances be watched critically.  Just sit back and be entertained, don't try to overthink it.
 
2013-09-13 03:09:54 AM

OgreMagi: kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.

Ditto.  It's a fun movie.  Don't try to get a deep meaning out of it (even though they try for that).

And the Ruby Rhod character is farking hilarious, though you'll want to punch him in the face (multiple times).


Yes great way to put it. Its a fun movie. Over the top in parts. In a fun way. Ruby Rhod is a good part of the movie. Almost the unwilling sidekick. And Gary Oldman. Definitely a watch.
 
2013-09-13 03:15:20 AM
One of the best ways to describe it. An over the top, independent Sci fi film. It reminds you more of kind of an indy film than a big budget sci fi film.
 
2013-09-13 03:39:35 AM
Lets get Joe Johnston back so he can remake The Rocketeer too while we are at it.
 
2013-09-13 03:42:23 AM

tinderfitles: Lets get Joe Johnston back so he can remake The Rocketeer too while we are at it.


SHhhhhh. Dont give them any ideas.
 
2013-09-13 03:48:36 AM

tinderfitles: Lets get Joe Johnston back so he can remake The Rocketeer too while we are at it.


There are hints of The Rocketeer (style-wise) in Captain America. I think Joe could rock it.
 
2013-09-13 03:58:32 AM

Hebalo: tinderfitles: Lets get Joe Johnston back so he can remake The Rocketeer too while we are at it.

There are hints of The Rocketeer (style-wise) in Captain America. I think Joe could rock it.


Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow had a similar feel as well. I should watch that again, that was a good  movie.
 
2013-09-13 04:08:40 AM

kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.


Make sure you get the movie version, not the 'edited for television' chopped up version that everyone tends to play now.

/miss the 'gimmee the cash!!!' scene
//who wants to negotiate
 
2013-09-13 04:26:38 AM
Ah, Gay Star Wars. I dunno, if I knew it was a screwball comedy going in I probably would have liked it more. But Milla's little naked boobies salvaged it.
 
2013-09-13 04:30:13 AM
Can it just be about this guy?

thefilmstage.com

Cause that shiat was certainly not chalkboard-nailingly abrasive.
 
2013-09-13 04:49:17 AM

Alphax: kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.

My favorite Bruce Willis movie by far.  Also a standout, screwball performance by Gary Oldman.  And Chris Tucker as a 23rd century radio personality.


My second best Bruce Willis film after Hudson Hawk. And maybe 12 Monkeys.
 
2013-09-13 05:02:50 AM

Alphax: The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...

It's a fun movie.  Like The Princess Bride.


This.

And before people come out of the woodwork defending the Princess Bride as some amazing masterwork of depth and character, stop and think about it.  The story is literally a children's story, complete with all the cliches, plot holes, and logic issues that entails.  The very reason why the movie is good is because it acknowledges that, even gives us a reason to dismiss the issues so we can shut up and enjoy the entertainment, and shocker people actually shut up and enjoy the entertainment.  Instead of nitpicking over continuity and "why didn't they just..." we all just listen to the hilarious exchanges and enjoy the stellar performances by the star-studded cast.

The Fifth Element should be treated the same way.  Stop paying attention to how unrealistic it is that a planet made of liquid evil can make a phone call (or exist in the first place) and start laughing at the one-liners, getting excited by the action sequences, and doing double takes when you realize that yes, that is really Gary Oldman.
 
2013-09-13 05:09:12 AM
Ecto gammat!
 
2013-09-13 05:10:02 AM

some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?


Yes.  It was advertised as the new star wars before the new star wars shiat all over the old star wars.
 
2013-09-13 05:20:32 AM

timujin: And neither the headline, nor the article actually have anything to do with the quote.  He didn't get to use all the cool toys the kids have these days, so he wants to make another sci-fi film and:

I don't know if it would be directly connected [to The Fifth Element] but it would be the same area and the same genre. So for me it would be connected even if the stories had nothing to do with each other


Man, if he feels bad, he should talk to John Carpenter about Escape from LA: most of the budget went into special effects which now look like they were done by a competent 15 year-old with a video toaster.
 
2013-09-13 05:40:35 AM

yukichigai: Stop paying attention to how unrealistic it is that......


This.  People shouldn't need to be reminded though.  I think it's a cultural shift of sci-fi and fantasy being geek cliche and getting a bad rap... despite the current desire to have geek chic.

Normal people pick one thing to geek over just to be "cool"(A game like WoW for example, because grinding requires little intelligence), but continue to shun all other area's of geekdom.

A lot of good things from the genres just don't become hits because the populace is too uptight.  We all pretend we're "above it" in one area or another.  But people still flock to the rom-com.

Fifth Element was good because they did it big, yet didn't care what anyone thought.  They weren't over-acting or being unrealistic(the movie came up in a thread the other day about scene chewing).  That is how that universe operates. When it's the goal, it can't be faulted for it.

It's over the top fun.  It was meant to be.  Anyone complaining about realism in a movie like this shouldn't ever be criticizing anything but Lifetime movies and documentaries and Judge Judy.
 
2013-09-13 05:44:50 AM
Enjoy this while it lasts, subby. P2P cockpunch technology is just around the corner.

/don't you have a Deadline Hollywood headline to write?
 
2013-09-13 05:53:09 AM

thamike: Enjoy this while it lasts, subby. P2P cockpunch technology is just around the corner.

/don't you have a Deadline Hollywood headline to write?


A 3D printer, making a flying fist, with cock tracking and homing capability?
 
2013-09-13 06:29:19 AM

kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.


YES. It's just...fun. :) And a movie I can rewatch endlessly. Don't take it seriously and just enjoy it.
 
2013-09-13 06:34:35 AM
Or maybe he could just film  The Incal.
 
2013-09-13 06:40:26 AM
Now, basically, you put the camera on your shoulder and then you run and then you add a couple of dinosaurs and spaceships.

Oh, god, no, not more Shakey-Cam! I want to find whomever is responsible for Shakey-Cam and beat them to death.
 
2013-09-13 07:05:34 AM
Hmm...

"The Sixth Element: Korben's Gentleman Juice".

Leeloo gives birth to a full-grown Howard Stern, who immediately proclaims himself King of All Media and banishes Ruby to the dark planet.

Itcouldwork.jpg
 
2013-09-13 07:22:17 AM

show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.


Yup, also with Gary Oldman and of course introducing Natalie Portman
 
2013-09-13 07:27:07 AM

show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.


That was a throwaway movie?!  Holy fark!  That movie is awesome.
 
2013-09-13 07:32:14 AM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Yup, also with Gary Oldman and of course introducing Natalie Portman


Natalie was so hot in that movie.

I keed, I keed.

Really though, they need to make "Mathilda". Well there might already be another movie named Mathilda but name it something else but have Natalie Portman's character return as an assassin.
 
2013-09-13 07:38:28 AM
The Fifth Element is a horrible guilty pleasure of mine.  I love that takes so many pokes at the "serious" epics like Blade Runner and Star Wars and generates so much butthurt.
 
2013-09-13 07:41:21 AM

kombi: OgreMagi: kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.

Ditto.  It's a fun movie.  Don't try to get a deep meaning out of it (even though they try for that).

And the Ruby Rhod character is farking hilarious, though you'll want to punch him in the face (multiple times).

Yes great way to put it. Its a fun movie. Over the top in parts. In a fun way. Ruby Rhod is a good part of the movie. Almost the unwilling sidekick. And Gary Oldman. Definitely a watch.


Yep.  Just don't press the little red button on the bottom of the gun.
 
2013-09-13 07:45:52 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Now, basically, you put the camera on your shoulder and then you run and then you add a couple of dinosaurs and spaceships.

Oh, god, no, not more Shakey-Cam! I want to find whomever is responsible for Shakey-Cam and beat them to death.


Michael J. Fox
 
2013-09-13 08:08:34 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Now, basically, you put the camera on your shoulder and then you run and then you add a couple of dinosaurs and spaceships.

Oh, god, no, not more Shakey-Cam! I want to find whomever is responsible for Shakey-Cam and beat them to death.


For fark's sake, this.  It gives me a headache and It's goddamn everywhere now too.  Even the stupid B-movie horror flicks I enjoy being distracted with are doing it now. I watched The Possession last weekend on NetFlix and saw The Butler at the movies.  The fact that neither one of them used any of that bullshiat gave them an instant 4 stars.

Both great movies in their own right btw.  Instant favorites.
 
2013-09-13 08:10:40 AM

kombi: OgreMagi: kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.

Ditto.  It's a fun movie.  Don't try to get a deep meaning out of it (even though they try for that).

And the Ruby Rhod character is farking hilarious, though you'll want to punch him in the face (multiple times).

Yes great way to put it. Its a fun movie. Over the top in parts. In a fun way. Ruby Rhod is a good part of the movie. Almost the unwilling sidekick. And Gary Oldman. Definitely a watch.


Gary Oldman's purpose driven scene chewing is worth the price of admission alone
 
2013-09-13 08:13:22 AM
I HATED HATED HATED this movie.  I enjoy steak, pizza, burritos, and Indian food. - just not when they're all put in a blender together and served in one heaping pile.  It's like each actor thought they were in a different type of movie and the director just indulged them.

Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.

And the viewer thinks he's in hell.
 
2013-09-13 08:17:17 AM

RedZoneTuba: Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.


And they were *RIGHT*.
 
2013-09-13 08:19:56 AM

RedZoneTuba: I HATED HATED HATED this movie.  I enjoy steak, pizza, burritos, and Indian food. - just not when they're all put in a blender together and served in one heaping pile.  It's like each actor thought they were in a different type of movie and the director just indulged them.

Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.

And the viewer thinks he's in hell.


I am so sorry for you.
 
2013-09-13 08:21:18 AM

dittybopper: kombi: OgreMagi: kombi: some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?

Yes. Classic. Not really a serious movie. Fun and entertaining.

Ditto.  It's a fun movie.  Don't try to get a deep meaning out of it (even though they try for that).

And the Ruby Rhod character is farking hilarious, though you'll want to punch him in the face (multiple times).

Yes great way to put it. Its a fun movie. Over the top in parts. In a fun way. Ruby Rhod is a good part of the movie. Almost the unwilling sidekick. And Gary Oldman. Definitely a watch.

Yep.  Just don't press the little red button on the bottom of the gun.


AZIZ--LIGHT!!!!

/Thank you Aziz, much better.
 
2013-09-13 08:32:17 AM

pag1107: I love that takes so many pokes at the "serious" epics like Blade Runner and Star Wars and generates so much butthurt.


Don't forget the cops uniforms that are a blatant rip off of Heavy Metal.
 
2013-09-13 08:33:28 AM
www.projectorreviews.com
 
2013-09-13 08:33:51 AM
www.homevideos.com

hi guys
 
2013-09-13 08:34:54 AM
Hah!
I thought I was the only one LOVING this movie! And Lilu....
 
2013-09-13 08:39:48 AM

RedZoneTuba: Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.



thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2013-09-13 08:41:20 AM

Pharque-it: Hah!
I thought I was the only one LOVING this movie! And Lilu....


Umm, how long have you been here?
 
2013-09-13 08:57:30 AM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: It's fine the way it is, asshole.


This.

The odds of a remake sucking balls compared the original are nearly 100%
 
2013-09-13 08:59:20 AM

Harry_Seldon: Why remake it? It was .... perfect.





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Displace one note and there would be diminishment.
Displace one phrase and the structure would fall.

 
2013-09-13 08:59:32 AM

some_beer_drinker: i love science fiction. but i have never seen this movie. should i?



YES!  I worked at a movie theater when this came out.  The employees were given a preview of all of the trailers that were about to be released.  For 1997 graphics, that was the coolest damn thing we'd ever seen. We all came out of there dying for May to come.  It was every bit as awesome as we thought it would be.  We would sneak in to the theaters during downtimes just to watch whatever snippets we could.

Here's the trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoKssDjs64o


/That's a... very nice hat.
 
2013-09-13 09:00:57 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


Not every movie has to be a cinema lesson.

The visuals are great. The music is creative. The action scenes are fun. And Mila Jovavich runs around 1/2 naked in it.

And it is a GREAT movie to show off an HD TV of surround sound system.
 
2013-09-13 09:03:01 AM

SpectroBoy: And Mila Jovavich runs around 1/2 naked in it.


To be fair, she did this in nearly every movie she has ever been in. In fact I am fully convinced that the Resident Evil series only exists to continue to film her half naked because her husband as a weird voyeur cuckold complex.
 
2013-09-13 09:08:58 AM

AngryDragon: show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.

That was a throwaway movie?!  Holy fark!  That movie is awesome.


Well, maybe "throwaway" is the wrong word, but it was unplanned, and the only reason he made it was because he had his "masterpiece" The Fifth Element mapped out, but Willis was tied up with something else for quite a while. To fill the time he came up with Leon as a relatively low budget movie to fill the time. It is consistently rated by almost everyone as being better than The Fifth Element.
 
2013-09-13 09:10:20 AM
Everyone!
 
2013-09-13 09:11:06 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: SpectroBoy: And Mila Jovavich runs around 1/2 naked in it.

To be fair, she did this in nearly every movie she has ever been in. In fact I am fully convinced that the Resident Evil series only exists to continue to film her half naked because her husband as a weird voyeur cuckold complex.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
2013-09-13 09:12:44 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


Some people like having fun.
 
2013-09-13 09:13:01 AM

basemetal:


You're a monster Zorg.
 
2013-09-13 09:13:50 AM
cf.badassdigest.com
 
2013-09-13 09:14:51 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: RedZoneTuba: Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.


thatsthejoke.jpg


You're right, I guess I missed the "joke".  It's funny to make a crappy movie out of wildly diverse and discordant styles?  Huh, who knew?  I guess I'm not hip enough.
 
2013-09-13 09:16:49 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-09-13 09:17:32 AM

RedZoneTuba: IdBeCrazyIf: RedZoneTuba: Milla J thought she was in a serious science fiction movie.
Bruce Willis thought he was in an action/comedy.
Gary Oldman thought he was in a cartoon.
Chris Tucker thought he was channeling early coke-fueled Robin Williams at a drag-queen after party.


thatsthejoke.jpg

You're right, I guess I missed the "joke".  It's funny to make a crappy movie out of wildly diverse and discordant styles?  Huh, who knew?  I guess I'm not hip enough.



You must be fun at parties.
 
2013-09-13 09:18:59 AM

show me: Well, maybe "throwaway" is the wrong word, but it was unplanned, and the only reason he made it was because he had his "masterpiece" The Fifth Element mapped out, but Willis was tied up with something else for quite a while. To fill the time he came up with Leon as a relatively low budget movie to fill the time. It is consistently rated by almost everyone as being better than The Fifth Element.


Yeah it wasn't a throw away, but it was put together very fast and loose.

Originally Natalie Portman was turned down by the casting director, but apparently she came back for a second reading insisted on reading again. The casting director lamented and Luc was there for it this time and was so impressed he casted her on the spot when the leader for the role at that moment was going to be a young Liv Tyler.

Also Oldman was allowed to chew through the takes improvised in many of the scenes. During his interrogation scene almost the entire thing is improvised and the actor playing the father had no idea Oldman was going to lean in and smell him, so that moment where he looks like really uncomfortable is like real emotion there. Besson basically let Oldman run free in the movie, which is why it worked pretty well.
 
2013-09-13 09:19:23 AM

show me: AngryDragon: show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.

That was a throwaway movie?!  Holy fark!  That movie is awesome.

Well, maybe "throwaway" is the wrong word, but it was unplanned, and the only reason he made it was because he had his "masterpiece" The Fifth Element mapped out, but Willis was tied up with something else for quite a while. To fill the time he came up with Leon as a relatively low budget movie to fill the time. It is consistently rated by almost everyone as being better than The Fifth Element.



And Oldman was brilliant in both.
 
2013-09-13 09:20:10 AM

SpectroBoy: You say that like it's a bad thing.


Not complaining, just pointing out the obvious ;)
 
2013-09-13 09:20:16 AM

Alphax: I found the original track by the Pakistani singer accidentally, back in my old music file sharing days.


It's not on the soundtrack, but it is on Amazon

Love the soundtrack, and that song.
 
2013-09-13 09:23:00 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


Oh please tell us then what unassailable movies you would consider worthy to be "favorites".
 
2013-09-13 09:28:10 AM

give me doughnuts: show me: AngryDragon: show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.

That was a throwaway movie?!  Holy fark!  That movie is awesome.

Well, maybe "throwaway" is the wrong word, but it was unplanned, and the only reason he made it was because he had his "masterpiece" The Fifth Element mapped out, but Willis was tied up with something else for quite a while. To fill the time he came up with Leon as a relatively low budget movie to fill the time. It is consistently rated by almost everyone as being better than The Fifth Element.


And Oldman was brilliant in both.


I have begun to think Gary Oldman could not turn in a bad performance if he wanted to. Granted, I haven't seen nearly all of his movies, but I have yet to see a bad one.
 
2013-09-13 09:33:17 AM

show me: I have begun to think Gary Oldman could not turn in a bad performance if he wanted to. Granted, I haven't seen nearly all of his movies, but I have yet to see a bad one.


Lost In Space

The only thing redeemable in that movie was Lacy Chabert

/she was legal for me in my state of residency
 
2013-09-13 09:44:58 AM

show me: give me doughnuts: show me: AngryDragon: show me: But Luc Besson's best movie ever is the "throwaway" movie ha made while he was waiting for Bruce Willis to free up to film The Fifth Element: Leon, The Professional. I don't think he would be capable of making a similar movie as good as that one today, unfortunately.

That was a throwaway movie?!  Holy fark!  That movie is awesome.

Well, maybe "throwaway" is the wrong word, but it was unplanned, and the only reason he made it was because he had his "masterpiece" The Fifth Element mapped out, but Willis was tied up with something else for quite a while. To fill the time he came up with Leon as a relatively low budget movie to fill the time. It is consistently rated by almost everyone as being better than The Fifth Element.


And Oldman was brilliant in both.

I have begun to think Gary Oldman could not turn in a bad performance if he wanted to. Granted, I haven't seen nearly all of his movies, but I have yet to see a bad one.


Watching him and Tim Roth in "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" never gets old.
 
2013-09-13 09:47:10 AM
I liked the movie except for the whole "unless someone loves me I'm gonna let the universe be destroyed" ending.
 
2013-09-13 09:47:49 AM

give me doughnuts: Watching him and Tim Roth in "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" never gets old.


Tim Roth never gets too old to watch

Still pissed off they canceled Lie To Me
 
2013-09-13 09:56:45 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: show me: I have begun to think Gary Oldman could not turn in a bad performance if he wanted to. Granted, I haven't seen nearly all of his movies, but I have yet to see a bad one.

Lost In Space

The only thing redeemable in that movie was Lacy Chabert

/she was legal for me in my state of residency


You know, as soon as I posted that I thought of Lost in Space. I haven't seen it in a long time, and then only once, but yeah it was a horrible movie, but I don't really think it was Oldman's fault.

/His cameo in True Romance was fantastic, but so were all of the other cameos in that movie. Hopper, Walken, Gandolfini, Pitt, and I'm probably leaving out some.
 
2013-09-13 10:02:15 AM

show me: You know, as soon as I posted that I thought of Lost in Space. I haven't seen it in a long time, and then only once, but yeah it was a horrible movie, but I don't really think it was Oldman's fault.


No, not likely his fault. Even William Hurt has been on record of openly hating the movie and claiming that the directing was lacking and they were forced through several script changes mid filming. So my guess is most of them just mailed it in.
 
2013-09-13 10:11:34 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: show me: You know, as soon as I posted that I thought of Lost in Space. I haven't seen it in a long time, and then only once, but yeah it was a horrible movie, but I don't really think it was Oldman's fault.

No, not likely his fault. Even William Hurt has been on record of openly hating the movie and claiming that the directing was lacking and they were forced through several script changes mid filming. So my guess is most of them just mailed it in.


And the monkey pushes the button...
 
2013-09-13 10:15:03 AM

Alphax: It's a fun movie.  Like The Princess Bride.


i always put these movies together as examples of perfect movies.  where the direction and the characters and the tone of the movie come across perfectly, and everything clicks.  they've got action, romance, humor, suspense, but the whole movie has the tone of having fun and not taking itself seriously.  i can't really think of other movie that fit that kind of category.
 
2013-09-13 10:30:04 AM

Mugato: The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: Yup, also with Gary Oldman and of course introducing Natalie Portman

Natalie was so hot in that movie.

I keed, I keed.

Really though, they need to make "Mathilda". Well there might already be another movie named Mathilda but name it something else but have Natalie Portman's character return as an assassin.


The script for Colombiana was based on the sequel script for the professional.  Since the weren't going to get anyone from The Professional, it was rewritten to be a standalone movie.
 
2013-09-13 10:30:31 AM

Uisce Beatha: Alphax: I found the original track by the Pakistani singer accidentally, back in my old music file sharing days.

It's not on the soundtrack, but it is on Amazon

Love the soundtrack, and that song.


That's the one.  Just fired it up now.
 
2013-09-13 10:33:39 AM

enderthexenocide: Alphax: It's a fun movie.  Like The Princess Bride.

i always put these movies together as examples of perfect movies.  where the direction and the characters and the tone of the movie come across perfectly, and everything clicks.  they've got action, romance, humor, suspense, but the whole movie has the tone of having fun and not taking itself seriously.  i can't really think of other movie that fit that kind of category.


I think The Avengers was sorta in that category.. at least, the dialogue was fun.  They had to take the rest of it kinda seriously, so it didn't become campy.
 
2013-09-13 10:34:24 AM

pag1107: The Fifth Element is a horrible guilty pleasure of mine.  I love that takes so many pokes at the "serious" epics like Blade Runner and Star Wars and generates so much butthurt.


QFT.

And since this is a Fark movie thread:
24.media.tumblr.com

/all bases covered
 
2013-09-13 10:56:50 AM
I remeber the exact moment when I was watching Fithf Element that I told my brain, "this isn't a movie for you, so better take a hike for now"

when Gary Oldman takes the BFG and starts showing the aliens all the different things it can do, etc. and the stupid net pops out among other things.

Ah, good times. Also Lee-loo.
 
2013-09-13 11:02:02 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: I liked the movie except for the whole "unless someone loves me I'm gonna let the universe be destroyed" ending.


Way to miss the point.

What she needed to understand is why is life worth living and protecting. The answer (according to the movie) is love. Which she didn't understand until she felt it.
 
2013-09-13 11:26:55 AM
I try to work the line "Negative, I am a meat popsicle" into my conversations at least once a day.
 
2013-09-13 11:30:51 AM
                                                              NO!
 
2013-09-13 11:40:03 AM

Random Internet Persona: I try to work the line "Negative, I am a meat popsicle" into my conversations at least once a day.


Fun fact, the Divine language was invented by Besson and Jovovich and they actually wrote letters to each other in it as practice
 
2013-09-13 12:21:55 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: SpectroBoy: And Mila Jovavich runs around 1/2 naked in it.

To be fair, she did this in nearly every movie she has ever been in. In fact I am fully convinced that the Resident Evil series only exists to continue to film her half naked because her husband as a weird voyeur cuckold complex.


I'd let her husband film me farkold'ing her complex.  If you know what I mean, and I think you do.  Is that weird?
 
2013-09-13 12:30:47 PM

Alphax: MaudlinMutantMollusk: 5th Element is one of my favorites

/it's here in the collection in frequent rotation
//for some reason, I really like the closing credit music, among other things

Peter Gabriel song, written just for the movie, I think.

I also like the taxi chase scene music.. I found the original track by the Pakistani singer accidentally, back in my old music file sharing days.


Khaled is Algerian, not Pakistani. Look up his songs 'Didi' (Arabic) and 'Aicha' (French) and his entire 'Sahra' album. I suspect you'll approve.
 
2013-09-13 12:47:49 PM

SpectroBoy: What she needed to understand is why is life worth living and protecting.


which would be a really bad design flaw by the race that engineered her. The fate of the entire universe rest on the  off chance that the 5th element discovers a reason why life is  worth protecting before the darkness destroys everything.

What exactly was their plan if her ship wasn't attacked and she ended up finding the Bruce? Have her join Match.com? go on a few dates? fall in love? then save the universe.

I'm guessing a race that engineered a "perfect" being would program in a line or two about life being worth protecting.
 
2013-09-13 12:59:32 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: SpectroBoy: What she needed to understand is why is life worth living and protecting.

which would be a really bad design flaw by the race that engineered her. The fate of the entire universe rest on the  off chance that the 5th element discovers a reason why life is  worth protecting before the darkness destroys everything.

What exactly was their plan if her ship wasn't attacked and she ended up finding the Bruce? Have her join Match.com? go on a few dates? fall in love? then save the universe.

I'm guessing a race that engineered a "perfect" being would program in a line or two about life being worth protecting.


From what I remember of the movie they didn't plan on the 5th element walking around and realizing that humanity  and life in the universe in general were pretty shiatty to each other. She was supposed to remain encased and in the center of the temple and then they were supposed to just activate the 4 elemental thingies and she'd take out the bad guys. There was no thought to her getting out of the big stone or whatever material casing, learning people are shiat and refusing to do her part of the job.
 
2013-09-13 01:00:41 PM
It's nice to see the Milla love around here. Most of the douchebags I know won't look at a girl that doesn't have DDs, no matter how plastic they are.
 
2013-09-13 01:06:42 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: SpectroBoy: What she needed to understand is why is life worth living and protecting.

which would be a really bad design flaw by the race that engineered her. The fate of the entire universe rest on the  off chance that the 5th element discovers a reason why life is  worth protecting before the darkness destroys everything.

What exactly was their plan if her ship wasn't attacked and she ended up finding the Bruce? Have her join Match.com? go on a few dates? fall in love? then save the universe.

I'm guessing a race that engineered a "perfect" being would program in a line or two about life being worth protecting.


She needed something to get her over the disillusionment of discovering that the human race often acts with all the restraint and peacefullness of an enraged gorilla with a flame-thrower.
 
2013-09-13 01:42:47 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: From what I remember of the movie they didn't plan on the 5th element walking around and realizing that humanity and life in the universe in general were pretty shiatty to each other. She was supposed to remain encased and in the center of the temple and then they were supposed to just activate the 4 elemental thingies and she'd take out the bad guys. There was no thought to her getting out of the big stone or whatever material casing, learning people are shiat and refusing to do her part of the job.


Pretty much that, she was an engineered designed weapon meant to stay locked up until needed. Once she found out how farked up the universe she was supposed to protect despair set in and a huge sense of guilt I imagine at protecting the universe for some thousands and thousands of years.

Mugato: It's nice to see the Milla love around here. Most of the douchebags I know won't look at a girl that doesn't have DDs, no matter how plastic they are.


CSB moment

So wife and I are sitting on the couch flipping channels and it lands on the first Resident Evil. I stop and pause for a moment and she tells me "If we have to watch this, you're not getting laid tonight" I turn to the screen and its that one moment where she's looking farking sexy as hell in that red dress and I pause for a moment....long enough apparently that my wife then goes "And because you had to think about it, you're not getting laid"

To which I asked her "Ok, but can we still watch the movie?"
 
2013-09-13 02:46:15 PM

The_EliteOne: I remeber the exact moment when I was watching Fithf Element that I told my brain, "this isn't a movie for you, so better take a hike for now"

when Gary Oldman takes the BFG and starts showing the aliens all the different things it can do, etc. and the stupid net pops out among other things.



For me it was Tommy "Tiny" Lister - Galactic President.
 
2013-09-13 02:59:59 PM
Snapper Carr: For me it was Tommy "Tiny" Lister - Galactic President.

thatsracist.gif

/kidding
 
2013-09-13 03:20:02 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: The Fifth Element is an okay movie, but if it's one of your "favorites" you have problems.  Terrible acting (some of the performances anyway...) terrible story cheesy effects...


Stop liking what I don't like?
 
2013-09-13 03:22:26 PM

Spanky_McFarksalot: which would be a really bad design flaw by the race that engineered her. The fate of the entire universe rest on the  off chance that the 5th element discovers a reason why life is  worth protecting before the darkness destroys everything.

What exactly was their plan if her ship wasn't attacked and she ended up finding the Bruce? Have her join Match.com? go on a few dates? fall in love? then save the universe.

I'm guessing a race that engineered a "perfect" being would program in a line or two about life being worth protecting.


Maybe they didn't expect us to evolve in to such war-prone asshats and just assumed she would love us because we were living things.

 It all went down hill when she found the internet.
 
2013-09-13 03:32:21 PM
Chris Tucker ensured that no matter how many times I tried to watch it, I would not make it through.
 
2013-09-13 03:47:42 PM
I love this movie. If I stumble across it switching tv channels I always end up watching it, no matter how far into the run-time it is.

Youngish Bruce Willis in a sweaty tank top, stunning Mila in a bandage bodysuit kicking ass, goofy giant alien rhinos, stunning production design and a sense of humour akin to a Monty Python movie. It's right up my alley.
 
2013-09-13 04:01:11 PM

neritz: The script for Colombiana was based on the sequel script for the professional. Since the weren't going to get anyone from The Professional, it was rewritten to be a standalone movie


I remember seeing or hearing that somewhere myself.
 
2013-09-13 04:31:27 PM
I'm all for it.  There are two sci-fi movies that I can sit down and watch over and over again.. Star Wars and Fith Element.  There will only ever be one LeeLuDallasMultiPass!

/MULTI-PASS
//Yea yea, she knows what a multi-pass is.
 
2013-09-13 04:48:35 PM
More gee-whiz special effects techniques are now available--that's always the basis for great cinema.
 
2013-09-13 04:49:21 PM
just watched this a few days ago as a matter of fact. still stands up to the test of time quite well, one doesn't get caught up in the lack of fancy graphics and a 3-hour story line and can just enjoy the comic action from scene to colorful scene. completely enjoyable
 
2013-09-13 04:58:56 PM
Some people already thought the first one was a remake:
www.shadowgirlscomic.com
/hot like a angry Loc-Nar.
 
2013-09-13 05:52:17 PM

j-money: Alphax: MaudlinMutantMollusk: 5th Element is one of my favorites

/it's here in the collection in frequent rotation
//for some reason, I really like the closing credit music, among other things

Peter Gabriel song, written just for the movie, I think.

I also like the taxi chase scene music.. I found the original track by the Pakistani singer accidentally, back in my old music file sharing days.

Khaled is Algerian, not Pakistani. Look up his songs 'Didi' (Arabic) and 'Aicha' (French) and his entire 'Sahra' album. I suspect you'll approve.


I love that car chase song too. The "Peter Gabriel" song is actually Eric Serra. It's called Little Light of Love.
/bought the soundtrack after seeing the movie
 
2013-09-13 05:57:39 PM
While looking on YouTube for 5thE music, I found this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfjDnWndwc
Holy shiat that was good.
 
2013-09-13 06:26:30 PM
This one was fun

content6.flixster.com
 
2013-09-13 07:11:23 PM

Mr. Pokeylope: This one was fun

[content6.flixster.com image 180x270]


I keep seeing this when browsing Netflix and have wondered about it. Guy Pierce seems like an odd action star, is all.
 
2013-09-13 07:22:19 PM
Let's not forget Bilbo was in this movie.  The first half of the Lord of the Rings in the theater my brain was screaming at me about why Bilbo looked so damn familiar.

And to honest, I HATED this movie the first time I saw it.  It tolerated it the second time.  The third time I thoroughly enjoyed it, and now (as has been said already) it's right up there with Princess Bride.
 
2013-09-13 10:45:32 PM

solyhhit: Chris Tucker ensured that no matter how many times I tried to watch it, I would not make it through.


You're not sounding green right now
 
2013-09-13 11:38:38 PM
Please please please!

If you read the book' it is possible for Sort to be back...
 
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