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2013-09-12 05:00:30 PM
A little measles in the derp community is way better than autism EVERYWHERE, subby. Study it out.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-09-12 05:09:00 PM
92 percent of people in the U.S. who came down with measles this year were not vaccinated or had an unknown vaccination status.

How many people have a known vaccination status? I can't say for sure that I have or have not been vaccinated. I got all sorts of shots when I was a kid. The odds are good one made me autistic instead of measlely, but I can't say for sure. All I know for sure is I got a DPT shot as a child, and again as an adult.  As an adult I only asked for a tetanus shot. Apparently they can't or don't like to give that on its own.
 
2013-09-12 05:14:12 PM
Nightmare time!

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2013-09-12 05:20:18 PM
GMOs are safe, too

Now do you understand why I am against labeling GMO food as a GMO?

Food that is perfectly good will not get eaten and will most likely go to waste because of people who pass on conspiracy theories as fact
 
2013-09-12 05:31:03 PM
You're goddam right we are!

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2013-09-12 05:41:33 PM
I'd still hit it like the fist of an angry god. And then after I was done, I would punch her in the back of her head like the fist of a angry god.
 
2013-09-12 05:43:00 PM
People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.
 
2013-09-12 05:50:06 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.


What's even worse is that denying vaccinations can impact others. Remember the story about the whopping cough outbreak in San Francisco in newborns who were too young to receive the vaccination?

Brought on by a bunch of anti-vax retards who then spread the disease to vulnerable populations.

F*ckheads.
 
2013-09-12 05:50:40 PM
Joe McCarthy? Seven times World Series winning manager for the Yankees?
 
2013-09-12 05:51:01 PM
How about a shot in the ass for the neglected kids; a shot in the head for their parents?
 
2013-09-12 05:52:28 PM

scottydoesntknow: I'd still hit it like the fist of an angry god. And then after I was done, I would punch her in the back of her head like the fist of a angry god.


You really like measles, I take it.
 
2013-09-12 05:52:35 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me. That's like denying your children proper health care


It's not "Iike", it most definitely freaking is, and should be prosecuted vigorously as such.
 
2013-09-12 05:53:19 PM

cman: GMOs are safe, too

Now do you understand why I am against labeling GMO food as a GMO?

Food that is perfectly good will not get eaten and will most likely go to waste because of people who pass on conspiracy theories as fact


Have you seen the average american? We can afford to waste some food.
 
2013-09-12 05:54:57 PM
Also the cause for outbreaks are pockets of people in communities who refuse to vaccinate their children and end up causing others in the community to catch the virus.

so how do the other ones get it unless they are not vaccinated??
the cause for the outbreaks is people getting the virus.
 
2013-09-12 05:55:54 PM
Personally, I think people should continue to be free to refuse vaccinations for their kids, but with a stipulation.

If they come down with something that could have been avoided with a vaccination, you lose you kids. Permanently.

Priorities, do have them straight?
 
2013-09-12 05:56:24 PM

ZAZ: 92 percent of people in the U.S. who came down with measles this year were not vaccinated or had an unknown vaccination status.

How many people have a known vaccination status? I can't say for sure that I have or have not been vaccinated. I got all sorts of shots when I was a kid. The odds are good one made me autistic instead of measlely, but I can't say for sure. All I know for sure is I got a DPT shot as a child, and again as an adult.  As an adult I only asked for a tetanus shot. Apparently they can't or don't like to give that on its own.


You gotta have the dip-tet.

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2013-09-12 05:57:20 PM
Start administering measles vaccines with a baseball bat. Make sure the whole family gets it.

Jeebus I'm tired of this shiat. I want off this planet.
 
2013-09-12 05:58:24 PM
Well, she has had been in quite a few hits these past few years...

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Juc
2013-09-12 05:58:32 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.


it's not LIKE denying your childen proper health care, it IS denying your children proper healthcare.
 
2013-09-12 05:59:05 PM

WTP 2: Also the cause for outbreaks are pockets of people in communities who refuse to vaccinate their children and end up causing others in the community to catch the virus.

so how do the other ones get it unless they are not vaccinated??
the cause for the outbreaks is people getting the virus.


Herd immunity.
 
2013-09-12 05:59:35 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.



Previous success with vaccination campaigns means they have forgotten how terrible the diseases are.

 Measles can kill and causes brain damage in not uncommon numbers.  Mumps causes sterility and meningitis.  Rubella in pregnant women causes significant birth defects.  And of course, tetanus and the rest are all awful old world diseases to acquire.
 
2013-09-12 06:00:33 PM
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2013-09-12 06:01:52 PM
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2013-09-12 06:02:39 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.


It's not even about just your own kids, it's about other people's kids. Whooping cough, for example, might not kill an older kid but it might kill a baby who hasn't been immunized for it yet. I thought people liked babies?

We live in a society. If you don't like it, kill yourself.
 
2013-09-12 06:03:24 PM
Isn't Jenny McCarthy now a regular host of The View?  It's as if there wasn't enough derp on that show already...
 
2013-09-12 06:04:26 PM

Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.


Religious objections make no sense to me either. But refusing to vaccinate your kids because of rumors you heard on TV or the Internet? Utter stupidity.

I agree with you that parents that don't vaccinate their kids aren't good parents. Sure, there's a very slight risk. Some kids have passed away due to reactoins to vaccinations. But, the benefits outweigh that risk, especially it's far more likely your kid will be injured or die in car accidents than from vacciations.

I had measles as a kid twice before they had vaccinations for the various types, like red and German measles. High fevers, complications suck. No kid should suffer if it can be easily, cheaply avoided.
 
2013-09-12 06:04:33 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: A little measles in the derp community is way better than autism EVERYWHERE else, subby. Study it out.


I like it better this way.  Makes since better.
 
2013-09-12 06:04:34 PM
Wait, I couldn't even register for high school without verifying I've been vaccinated. When did allowing to register without proof happen?
/going from Kansas to Chicago was a lot harder because this info was still packed, iirc.
 
2013-09-12 06:08:17 PM
the beatles getting back together?
 
2013-09-12 06:08:24 PM
I ranted about this on FB and turns out a "friend" is an anti-vaccine derper. After me, my sister (degree in Organic Chemistry, handled marketing and PR for the AMA), and some doctor friends actually pressed him on the issues, we learned some things: like there's mercury in vaccines (there isn't, anymore then there's chlorine in salt), that the WHO and American Academy of Pediatrics were big businesses concerned only with their revenue streams, and that the Tuskegee Airmen were notable historically for surviving their government syphilis vaccines.

It was a LOT of derp.

ZAZ: How many people have a known vaccination status?


Did you go to college? They make you prove your vaccination status...I must have missed one somewhere, so I had to get a shot before I was enrolled. Likewise if you've ever traveled to a country that's not exactly Westernized, you probably had to get your records together or have a few shots. So probably many adults have a known status.
 
2013-09-12 06:09:03 PM
I'll see your medical degree and raise you boobies!
 
2013-09-12 06:09:26 PM
Can't wait for the inevitable parent of dead child sues hospital for allowing them to refuse vaccine. You know it's coming and for some reason won't be thrown out immediately.
 
2013-09-12 06:10:11 PM

zulius: Wait, I couldn't even register for high school without verifying I've been vaccinated. When did allowing to register without proof happen?
/going from Kansas to Chicago was a lot harder because this info was still packed, iirc.


Many places (public schools, at least) can't force you to get vaccinated and nobody can be rejected if they refuse to get vaccinated for a religious or medical reasons.
 
Ab3
2013-09-12 06:10:21 PM

PsyLord: Well, she has had been in quite a few hits these past few years...

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I would make sweet sweet love to her then use her bare ass as a Warhammer 40k battlemap.
 
2013-09-12 06:10:26 PM

Scrotastic Method: Did you go to college? They make you prove your vaccination status..


What about boosters?
 
2013-09-12 06:11:11 PM
I was never vaccinated as a kid, as my mom is an OG '70s kook, and I'll be glad to suck up all the hate in this thread. I caught the mumps when I was a kid. It was the jams, and made me super tough. Just ask the lady who runs my iron lung.
 
2013-09-12 06:13:10 PM

zulius: Wait, I couldn't even register for high school without verifying I've been vaccinated. When did allowing to register without proof happen?
/going from Kansas to Chicago was a lot harder because this info was still packed, iirc.


See home school and private school

You mention the phrase "public good" and these superchurch morons start frothing at the mouth. Love thy neighbor mysteriously has caveats. Leviticus is open to discussion. But they so love Job. They would stitch it to the flag if they could.

Luckily I've never met one in person. I will go to jail for battery and assault if I should meet an antivaxxer. Colors nailed to the mast and all.
 
2013-09-12 06:16:16 PM

AirForceVet: Coco LaFemme: People who don't vaccinate their children utterly appall me.  That's like denying your children proper health care or food or a roof over their head or shoes on their feet.  How can you call yourself a good parent and then not try and prevent as many preventable diseases from infecting your child as you possibly can?  That makes literally no sense to me.

Religious objections make no sense to me either. But refusing to vaccinate your kids because of rumors you heard on TV or the Internet? Utter stupidity.

I agree with you that parents that don't vaccinate their kids aren't good parents. Sure, there's a very slight risk. Some kids have passed away due to reactoins to vaccinations. But, the benefits outweigh that risk, especially it's far more likely your kid will be injured or die in car accidents than from vacciations.

I had measles as a kid twice before they had vaccinations for the various types, like red and German measles. High fevers, complications suck. No kid should suffer if it can be easily, cheaply avoided.



The complications from vaccines are far more rare than the complications from the diseases they prevent.

 People 30 years ago knew this and that's why they had their children vaccinated without question.  But as those diseases disappeared, these people forgot, or simply became ignorant.

Vaccines rarely do cause serious complications.  But if the alternative is to not vaccinate, and bring back the old world diseases and their complications, it's far better to take your chances with the vaccine.
 
2013-09-12 06:16:53 PM

WTP 2: so how do the other ones get it unless they are not vaccinated??


Kids with compromised immune systems, various disorders that make it more dangerous to be vaccinated than other people.

They're supposedly protected by herd immunity, wherein as long as a certain portion of the population is vaccinated, they can be safe because there simply aren't enough disease vectors to make the jumps into the kids who can't be vaccinated. It's when dumb cows like Jenny McCarthy and anti-gub'mint folks stop vaccinating their healthy kids that the system breaks down, so not only do they cause the infection and possible deaths of their own offspring, which is somewhat poetic, they end up infecting a whole bunch of others who are innocent in the matter.

That's not to say that the anti-vaccine crowd's kids are guilty of anything, but I would at least take some pleasure in watching the parents cry after their child died from an easily preventable disease.
 
2013-09-12 06:21:44 PM
I would have preferred the other kind.  :P
 
2013-09-12 06:24:07 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: WTP 2: so how do the other ones get it unless they are not vaccinated??

Kids with compromised immune systems, various disorders that make it more dangerous to be vaccinated than other people.

They're supposedly protected by herd immunity, wherein as long as a certain portion of the population is vaccinated, they can be safe because there simply aren't enough disease vectors to make the jumps into the kids who can't be vaccinated. It's when dumb cows like Jenny McCarthy and anti-gub'mint folks stop vaccinating their healthy kids that the system breaks down, so not only do they cause the infection and possible deaths of their own offspring, which is somewhat poetic, they end up infecting a whole bunch of others who are innocent in the matter.

That's not to say that the anti-vaccine crowd's kids are guilty of anything, but I would at least take some pleasure in watching the parents cry after their child died from an easily preventable disease.


It's not the kid's fault. There is no reason for a kid in the US to suffer needlessly for not getting vaccine that is literally free. Any health clinic in the country will vaccinate your kid at no cost if you can't afford it and every insurance company covers the cost. If it doesn't, see the health clinic. It is absolutely free if needed, cost is never an issue.

It's purely a parent's choice. Any parent who does not vaccinate a child properly might as well put them in a zoo's wild dog enclosure and let them take their chances.
 
2013-09-12 06:24:12 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: WTP 2: so how do the other ones get it unless they are not vaccinated??

Kids with compromised immune systems, various disorders that make it more dangerous to be vaccinated than other people.

They're supposedly protected by herd immunity, wherein as long as a certain portion of the population is vaccinated, they can be safe because there simply aren't enough disease vectors to make the jumps into the kids who can't be vaccinated. It's when dumb cows like Jenny McCarthy and anti-gub'mint folks stop vaccinating their healthy kids that the system breaks down, so not only do they cause the infection and possible deaths of their own offspring, which is somewhat poetic, they end up infecting a whole bunch of others who are innocent in the matter.

That's not to say that the anti-vaccine crowd's kids are guilty of anything, but I would at least take some pleasure in watching the parents cry after their child died from an easily preventable disease.



Most of these cases happen in clusters.  The handful of oddballs at a public school who aren't vaccinated (although they shouldn't be allowed to register), would probably be ok.  However, when you have a situation like a religious school where many are not vaccinated they are much more likely to have a breakout.

From a whole population standpoint, those people will learn their lesson without affecting the rest of us.
 
2013-09-12 06:24:51 PM
No one got the measles when I was in school in the '70s-'80s. I knew one classmate that had measles. My oldest niece is a teacher in Pennsylvania and she had 10 students last year get measles. 35 kids in her class.
 
2013-09-12 06:26:31 PM

ZAZ: How many people have a known vaccination status? I can't say for sure that I have or have not been vaccinated. I got all sorts of shots when I was a kid. The odds are good one made me autistic instead of measlely, but I can't say for sure. All I know for sure is I got a DPT shot as a child, and again as an adult. As an adult I only asked for a tetanus shot. Apparently they can't or don't like to give that on its own.


If you don't know when you were vaccinated against measles, you may need an update.  I got the MMR vaccine as a kid, again in graduate school, and again before going to China a few years ago.
 
2013-09-12 06:32:31 PM
god luck to those that don't vaccinate particularly when you get shingles
 
2013-09-12 06:33:33 PM

ccundiff: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A little measles in the derp community is way better than autism EVERYWHERE else, subby. Study it out.

I like it better this way.  Makes since better.


It makes what better? Since when?
 
2013-09-12 06:35:20 PM
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Civilization over. Please try again.
 
2013-09-12 06:35:45 PM
I wonder what the overlap is on anti-vaccine nut jobs and the pro-life people. You know there's plenty of retards out there who refuse to kill the baby in their womb so they can kill it once it's born.
 
2013-09-12 06:39:44 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: ccundiff: Mitch Taylor's Bro: A little measles in the derp community is way better than autism EVERYWHERE else, subby. Study it out.

I like it better this way.  Makes since better.

It makes what better? Since when?


Oh brother.., they do not cause Autism. Give me a freaking break.
 
2013-09-12 06:40:11 PM

Scrotastic Method: and that the Tuskegee Airmen were notable historically for surviving their government syphilis vaccines.



Oh my god just reading that hurt my brain.

At least the have a part of the name and the disease right?

TheDirtyNacho: The complications from vaccines are far more rare than the complications from the diseases they prevent.


I think Airforce vet was referring to the complications from the diseases being what sucked.
 
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