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(The Daily Beast)   Ted Cruz says that the Senate would be better if it was filled with "100 Jesse Helms". GOP minority outreach continues apace   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 33
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2013-09-12 01:39:50 PM
5 votes:
What's interest about this is, as TFA says, Trent Lott's career basically ended for saying something similar. This Cruz quote is barely a blip and it won't cost him anything. The GOP seems to be getting MORE racist over time.
2013-09-12 06:38:25 PM
4 votes:
If Jesse Helms had gotten his way, Rafael & his wingnuttier father would be harvesting sugar cane for Batista & Lansky's heirs.
2013-09-12 04:22:13 PM
3 votes:
Well if it did have 100 Jesse Helms in it, at least it would have 1 less Ted Cruz.
2013-09-12 03:47:20 PM
3 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: "I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."

Like a cat trying to cover a turd on a tile floor...at least you bought it.


What a Real Patriotic American, continuing to kick a man who apologized for what he said, and 4 years after that said he'd keep apologizing "over and again" - and one who has actually been dead for about 3 years.

Let it go - he's a dead racist, a dead Democrat, a dead West Virginian, a dead [whatever] you want him to be. He can't hurt you any more.

// at least he apologized for his insensitive remarks - more than you could say for pretty much anyone in the GOP these days
2013-09-12 02:06:03 PM
3 votes:
100 corpses?
2013-09-12 01:57:07 PM
3 votes:

Dr Dreidel: IIRC, Cruz was quoting...someone. Sure, he agreed with the cite, but it's not like Cruz came up with that on his own. And he did explain why he wanted 100 Jesse Helmseseses in the Senate - to stop the creep of socialism because old white guys rule and, in this case at least, drool.


FTFY
2013-09-12 01:49:19 PM
3 votes:
As a Texan, I sincerely apologize for sending such an asshole to Washington.  Again.
2013-09-12 06:16:06 PM
2 votes:

MJMaloney187: UrukHaiGuyz: MJMaloney187: UrukHaiGuyz: MJMaloney187: clancifer: As a Texan, I sincerely apologize for sending such an asshole to Washington.  Again.

I like him. And I'm glad my vote negates yours.

Congrats on supporting an economically illiterate racist sh*tbag, I guess. You're a credit to the state.

The kind of racism you're insinuating is a total fabrication. You're deliberately being confrontational in support of a fantasy. That's called being disingenuous.

And yes, I am a credit to the State of Texas, but my heart will forever be with Louisiana, mon amour.

Please don't call me "my love", it's creepy. (did you mean mon ami?) And yes, Cruz is a xenophobic, immigrant-hating racist hypocrite. I'm not being disingenuous in the least. The Tea Party is the bastion of hate-mongering bigots and racists, and he is proudly marching at the head of that parade of derp.

No, I definitely wasn't saying "my love" with you in mind. I stole that from Andrei Codrescu's book "New Orleans, Mon Amour". I should know better than to trust the spelling of a filthy gypsy.

Cruz is none of those things. If he were, then you could hyperlink some supporting documentation. If you can show me evidence of Cruz's xenophobia, then I'll apologize.


http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/ted-cruz-texas-senate-conspi ra cy-theories

He's a gay bashing bigot who thinks "sharia law" is a big problem in the States and made a campaign ad about his successfully lobbying to execute an illegal immigrant in violation of international treaties. I'm amazed anyone takes him at all seriously.
2013-09-12 04:16:28 PM
2 votes:
So back in about 1986 I had just started working as a waiter in a new
City Club in Charlotte.

One of my first shifts was a breakfast meeting that featured NC's senior senator, Jesse Helms...

As I was clearing plates and filling water, I walked past the head table and crop dusted the crap out of Mr. Helms.

It still is one of my proudest work moments.
2013-09-12 03:55:42 PM
2 votes:

CheetahOlivetti: I tend to get Helms and Thurmond mixed up, so of course I was reminded of this.


Jesse helms is the one who tried to launch a conservative buyout of CBS so he could "be Dan Rather's boss" and turn the network into a right wing propaganda machine.

And somewhere in Australia, a Rupert Murdoch began to go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............."

/Thanks loads, Jesse. Hope Satan's got LOTS of pineapples for ya. ;)
2013-09-12 03:47:23 PM
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: "I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."

Like a cat trying to cover a turd on a tile floor...at least you bought it.


I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is merely your inability to recognize this strange thing known as an "apology", which comes from such alien, homo-Marxist concepts as "examining your own behavior" and "accepting that you can be wrong sometimes". Rather than something disingenuous like moving the goalposts after your idiotic response flops. You're welcome.
2013-09-12 03:40:37 PM
2 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: From the wikis

From the horse's mouth...in 2001


Huh. Wonder if he ever realized he made a mistake using that term and apologized.

From the same exact link upthread:

"I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."

It's too bad he didn't just stick to his guns, he could have been a Republican hero.
2013-09-12 03:19:33 PM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com

/oblig
2013-09-12 02:53:15 PM
2 votes:

propasaurus: Something something Robert Byrd.


Someone will bring that up in all seriousness, I'm sure. Because continuing to be a racist dickbag until they put you in the ground is the same thing as changing your behavior and acknowleding your mistakes.
2013-09-12 02:06:28 PM
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: DamnYankees: What's interest about this is, as TFA says, Trent Lott's career basically ended for saying something similar. This Cruz quote is barely a blip and it won't cost him anything. The GOP seems to be getting MORE racist over time.

IIRC, Cruz was quoting...someone. Sure, he agreed with the cite, but it's not like Cruz came up with that on his own. And he did explain why he wanted 100 Jesse Helmseseses in the Senate - to stop the creep of socialism.


I'd be totally okay with that idea, as long as we stopped socialism for Joe Six-pack and Mitt Romney at the same time, and made every suburban commuter who writes off mortgage interest put a bumper sticker with "WELFARE RECIPIENT" on their car - after waiting in line five hours to pee into a jar for a surly worker who will process their drug specimen while holding three cellphone conversations at the same time.

If socialism is bad, it's bad. Let's rip it out everywhere it exists.
2013-09-12 10:27:11 PM
1 votes:

Armadillo Slim: I love the rich irony that Senator Cruz wants more of a guy who would not have tolerated his presence - in the country, let alone in the Senate.


Like when Sarah Palin goes on about returning to the values of our founding fathers.... you know they guys who didn't think women should be allowed to vote?
2013-09-12 10:08:15 PM
1 votes:

MJMaloney187: So to sum up: you hate a guy who 1) sends rapists to hell and 2) protects gays from having their heads cut off by Islamic fundamentalists.


"When the mayor of a city chooses twice to march in a parade celebrating gay pride, that's a statement. It's not a statement I believe in"  -Ted Cruz

So yeah, your full of crap, and intellectually dishonest people like you are why I no longer miss Texas.
2013-09-12 07:20:43 PM
1 votes:
If he's talking about the Jesse Helms who came around at the end of his life and realized how unnecessarily shiatty he'd been to people along the way, then sure.

i.huffpost.com

About the only other good thing I can say about Helms is that thanks to being a rabid anti-Communist he was one of the few in Washington who was right about what Robert Mugabe was going to do to Rhodesia.
2013-09-12 05:50:23 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Ring of Fire: Which current Democratic senator recently said we needed 100 Robert Byrds in the senate?

Even if they did, it wouldnt be at all the same thing. Byrd renounced his views and became a supporter of civil rights.


I'm aware I'm just wondering why there is so much talk about him in this thread. I guess republicans think that because a democrat was racist 60 years ago that is the same thing as a current US Senator wanting 100 racists in the senate.
2013-09-12 05:09:55 PM
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is merely your inability to recognize this strange thing known as an "apology", which comes from such alien, homo-Marxist concepts as "examining your own behavior" and "accepting that you can be wrong sometimes". Rather than something disingenuous like moving the goalposts after your idiotic response flops.

Well bless your heart.


That's Southern for "I got nothin'"
2013-09-12 04:34:10 PM
1 votes:
"The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men's rights." (WRAL-TV commentary, 1963) - Helms

"Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced." (New York Times, 2/8/81) -Helms

The country became a better place after he left office, North Carolina however is still a shiathole.
2013-09-12 04:19:30 PM
1 votes:

Cagey B: propasaurus: Something something Robert Byrd.

Someone will bring that up in all seriousness, I'm sure. Because continuing to be a racist dickbag until they put you in the ground is the same thing as changing your behavior and acknowleding your mistakes.


Hey, if George Wallace  deserves a pass for in his post assassination attempt years renouncing his former rhetoric, apologizing to those he hurt and trying to make amends by undergoing a race change and becoming a stand-up commedian, then I think we can give Byrd one too.
2013-09-12 04:14:14 PM
1 votes:
Well now he's solidly locked down the "racist Nonagenarian" demographic in 2016 and left everyone else scratching their heads going "who now?"
I love the fact that he praised helms because Helms was willing to "say crazy things"

as if that was virtue...
2013-09-12 04:12:17 PM
1 votes:
Called it!
2013-09-12 04:01:48 PM
1 votes:

UrukHaiGuyz: Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: "I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."

Like a cat trying to cover a turd on a tile floor...at least you bought it.

How does any of that change the fact that Cruz is racist sh*tbag and pandering asshat while still being considered a darling of the Tea Party? What kind of point could you possibly be making?


His point, as always, is obfuscation.
2013-09-12 03:53:47 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: What's interest about this is, as TFA says, Trent Lott's career basically ended for saying something similar. This Cruz quote is barely a blip and it won't cost him anything. The GOP seems to be getting MORE racist over time.


More racist? Hell, they're turning into Morlocks more and more by the day!
2013-09-12 03:44:46 PM
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: "I apologize for the characterization I used on this program ... The phrase dates back to my boyhood and has no place in today's society ... In my attempt to articulate strongly held feelings, I may have offended people."

Like a cat trying to cover a turd on a tile floor...at least you bought it.


How does any of that change the fact that Cruz is racist sh*tbag and pandering asshat while still being considered a darling of the Tea Party? What kind of point could you possibly be making?
2013-09-12 03:23:30 PM
1 votes:

Dancin_In_Anson: Cagey B: changing your behavior and acknowleding your mistakes.

Who are you referring to?


From the wikis:

In 1997, Byrd told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also: "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena." In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision-a jejune and immature outlook-seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions." Byrd also said, in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

Now, please proceed to your no doubt forthcoming white knighting of Jesse Helms.
2013-09-12 03:15:41 PM
1 votes:
Two days, two gaffes.

Sounds like Ted got some bad internal polls OR realized just how many light years of corporate dong he'll have to slobber to raise enough money to run and said to himself "I want out, but I don't want to be all Paliny."
2013-09-12 03:09:16 PM
1 votes:

clancifer: As a Texan, I sincerely apologize for sending such an asshole to Washington.  Again.


It's not your fault. There are lots of reasonable people who are just surrounded by assholes.

/Arizonan
2013-09-12 02:59:25 PM
1 votes:

Flab: James!: 100 corpses?

Zombie senators.


Isn't there a movie about that? I thought House of 1000 Corpses was a horror movie, but apparently it's about undead parliamentarians.
2013-09-12 02:57:02 PM
1 votes:

Cagey B: Because continuing to be a racist dickbag until they put you in the ground is the same thing as changing your behavior and acknowleding your mistakes.


not to mention the fact that robert byrd is literally "in the ground."
2013-09-12 02:52:39 PM
1 votes:

DamnYankees: The GOP seems to be getting MORE racist over time.


they've definitely traded their dog whistles for megaphones.

they've made a calculated gamble that they can win elections by turning out white voters in large numbers. they figure on doing this by leveraging tacit or overt racism. and while this may still win them house seats, it's unlikely to win them the presidency and less likely that they'll win senate seats over time.
 
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