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(Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)   Lawyer for family suing zoo is "outraged" that the zoo would "attack" the poor grieving family by pointing out their son probably wouldn't have died if Mom hadn't lifted him over the safety railing and them dropped him into a wild dog exhbit   (post-gazette.com) divider line 233
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2013-09-12 04:38:04 PM

Molavian: Why didn't she jump in after him?  If I dropped my kid I'd be following him.


I was wondering this.  If my children were faced with any present mortal danger, nothing would stand in my way.
 
2013-09-12 04:38:44 PM
Separated at birth...

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2013-09-12 04:40:32 PM

Magorn: wee: scottydoesntknow: God forbid she actually owns up to her actions.

This is a woman who named her son "Maddox".  She probably already had a school picked out for the two year old.

Look, what part of Mom's story DON'T you understand?  The Plexiglass was DIRTY and HER son has VISION PROBLEMS!  So, OF COURSE she had to hoist him over the saftey railing and dangle him 15 feet over a pit of hungry predators, so he could get a better look.   AND There were NO signs saying that it could be dangerous to deliberatly bypass the Zoo's safety measures ANYWHERE.  Not to mention the Zooo CLEARLY should have provided some sort of complimentary Safety harness so she could hang on better, and Finally, what kind of negligent, poorly run Zoo doesn't have crack snipers with tranquilizer guns stationed at all their exhibit just in case a vistor makes a perfectly reasonable minor mistake and needs the Zoo staff to instantly rescue them?

It's simply MONSTROUS  that instead of fesing up to thie rmisdeed and abjectly apologizing with a 7 figure check, the Zoo has the copper-plated GALL to suggest MOM is somehow the one at fault here....


I had a friend from Australia that knew of the case but never knew that a movie had been made so the first time one of the group said "A dingo ate my baby" she seemed confused by it. She did see the movie and called us a pack of "Sick america farks!"
 
2013-09-12 04:41:03 PM
Wow, that is just farking horrible. She basically threw her kid to a pack of wild dogs. And so of course she sues. Possibly a cash grab, possibly to avoid being thrown in jail for killing her kid, or possibly just grief-stricken and/or stupid.

What kind of lawyer would take that case? Seriously, suing a zoo after the mother dropped her kid into the enclosure? I would just back out of the room slowly saying "thanks, but no".
 
2013-09-12 04:41:50 PM

Matthew Keene: Separated at birth...

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Ralphie wanted a gun.  All little Maddox wanted was a puppy.
 
2013-09-12 04:42:59 PM

heili skrimsli: stonicus: But seriously... a 45 degree tilted railing... she'd have to hold that kid so far over and out for him to get a better look... I'm surprised one of the other zoo attendees didn't slap her yelling "WTF you doing with that kid biatch?!?!"

I can't find it now, but somewhere back when this happened a person claiming to have been a witness said that she put the kid on the railing and then turned around to get a camera out of the stroller before he fell.


Oh if that's true, farking charge her ass. And make her pay for the emergency response, the dead animal, and any costs associated with closing the exhibit. If that's how it happened, I have sympathy for everyone involved except her.
 
2013-09-12 04:43:05 PM
That kid was a cutie. I would have been happy to take him home and get him a BB gun.
 
2013-09-12 04:44:09 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Why the fark do people not understand that safety warnings apply to them, too? It's not like a speed limit or some stupid rule that is annoying and seemingly designed only to give govt entities an excuse to fine you.

It's an actual safety measure designed to keep you from dying. 

I've seen people prop their very young children on the railing at the zoo. Idiots.


You know how many people are killed in zoos every year? You know how many are killed in auto collisions every year? Idiots.
 
2013-09-12 04:44:55 PM

TheDumbBlonde: People that name their children other people's surnames deserve to have their babies eaten by dingos.


As a man with "2 first names" I really hesitate to agree with you.

/Let's maintain the illusion that I want the neighborhood children to call me Mr. D.
//Penis.
 
2013-09-12 04:45:56 PM
How is this father not punching that asshole of a mother's face inside out?

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2013-09-12 04:47:57 PM

R.A.Danny: How is this father not punching that asshole of a mother's face inside out?

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I'd love to do it for him.
 
2013-09-12 04:49:38 PM

AngryDragon: An intelligent or wise person can make the distinction between a rule that has minor consequences (traffic fines) and one that can be deadly (dangling your child over hungry wild animals).


Yeah, because heaven knows no ever gets hurt or killed in auto collisions. You realize how stupid that statement is? How is it that whenever you talk about driving people turn into blithering idiots without an inkling of rational thought?
 
2013-09-12 04:49:45 PM
Steve Irwin copped a lot of flak for taking his tasty baby Bob into a croc show. The crocs are used to him dangling a dead chicken to perform, I'm assuming a baby would look much the same as chicken from a crocs point-of-view.
 
2013-09-12 04:50:05 PM
Gerald Ford went the same way...
 
2013-09-12 04:50:13 PM
Fun Fact:

In my previous career, I had interactions with Bob Mongeluzzi, of the Saltz & Mongeluzzi lawfirm. They did a lot of business with my former employer.

As they are now my *former* employer, I can say, without hesitation, that Bob Mongeluzzi was one of the scummiest lawyers I ever had the displeasure to do business with. Dude was everything that is wrong with the modern legal system. I hated working for his firm. Always felt dirty after a Saltz/Mongeluzzi case. Problem was, they were one of my former employer's top clients, so they always got their asses kissed and their cases put on high priority.

/CSB?
 
2013-09-12 04:50:22 PM

Wingchild: fark her and her spurious lawsuit.

The zoo should charge her for the cost of one painted dog plus cleaning fees. Maybe a bit more for a vet visit in case any of their animals got indigestion from eating her boy. (Painted dogs are only allowed one treat a day, and only if they ate all their painted dog food.)


Throw in some 'pain and mental anguish' for the other dogs who witnessed the whole thing.
 
2013-09-12 04:52:06 PM

AirForceVet: TheDumbBlonde: "A dingo ate my baby!".

I was visiting Australia around the time after Azaria Chamberlain's death by dingo and was amazed the Australians all assumed she and her husband killed the baby. The general public there just couldn't seem to believe a wild dingo could take a nine-week-old baby and eat it. The jokes they made were dark and funny though.

As I'm from Florida, a baby getting killed and eaten by a wild animal isn't unknown. Seemed like the Australian media whipped the public up into a frenzy that the parents killed their baby, instead of believing the more logical cause.

Glad our American media doesn't do the same thing here, mates.


lh3.ggpht.com
"You're damned right. We only whip them up into a frenzy when we know good and well that they are guilty guilty guilty"
 
2013-09-12 04:53:03 PM

R.A.Danny: How is this father not punching that asshole of a mother's face inside out?

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I'm actually physically sick now.  Going to pick up my youngest from day care.

/You are now favored.
 
2013-09-12 04:53:37 PM
Ostman:I was dropping a letter into an office in a builders yard for my boss in May, and the gate was locked as it was early. So I hopped the gate and walked around the piles of timber to the office. Where his guard Alsatian was sleeping. The dog did it's very best to let me know it didn't want a fight (although I don't know why, it was 3 metres tall at the shoulder and had teeth like knives...I think). Lots of snarling, barking, ears pinned back, etc.

For my part, I did my best to let it know I was hop ...


This is very true.  My sister called me one day and said that she was out with this guy from work who lived a few minutes from my house, and he remembered that he had left his dog outside in the back yard.  She asked me to run by his house, let myself in the backyard, and open the back door for the dog.  I agreed.  She gives me directions and I head over to the house.  I open the side gate on the fence, walk in, and see his dog chained up in the back.  It's a full grown German Shepard.  It stands up and starts barking at me, and I immediately pull one of these:

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2013-09-12 04:54:14 PM
I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.

And maybe the dogs rip me to screds too, but if my kid is in there i'm hopping over and a few of these puppies are going down with us.

Or just push her in:
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2013-09-12 04:57:13 PM

TheDumbBlonde: People that name their children other people's surnames deserve to have their babies eaten by dingos.


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2013-09-12 04:58:22 PM

Guns n' Farkin Roses: I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.

And maybe the dogs rip me to screds too, but if my kid is in there i'm hopping over and a few of these puppies are going down with us.

Or just push her in:
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Ahh yes, the Homer Simpson method of protecting a child

www.hwdyk.com

Just make sure your fat enough to take the blows!

/And have a robotic Santa as backup
 
2013-09-12 04:58:51 PM

Evil High Priest: Wingchild: fark her and her spurious lawsuit.

The zoo should charge her for the cost of one painted dog plus cleaning fees. Maybe a bit more for a vet visit in case any of their animals got indigestion from eating her boy. (Painted dogs are only allowed one treat a day, and only if they ate all their painted dog food.)

Throw in some 'pain and mental anguish' for the other dogs who witnessed the whole thing.


How about "pain and mental anguish" for the poor zookeeper who had to remove a half-eaten toddler corpse from the enclosure.  Blech...
 
2013-09-12 04:59:38 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: the morsel in question
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I've seen that kid before - he worked as a model for The Far Side cartoons!

The zoo should put up a sign that says "Do Not Drop Your Children into Animal Enclosures" so that people like her are fully warned.
 
2013-09-12 04:59:54 PM
I wonder what the animals poop looked like?
 
2013-09-12 05:00:46 PM

Guns n' Farkin Roses: I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.

And maybe the dogs rip me to screds too, but if my kid is in there i'm hopping over and a few of these puppies are going down with us.


I don't think it's ITG at all.  Apparently it's only a 10 foot drop into the enclosure.
 
2013-09-12 05:01:08 PM

Jument: Wow, that is just farking horrible. She basically threw her kid to a pack of wild dogs. And so of course she sues. Possibly a cash grab, possibly to avoid being thrown in jail for killing her kid, or possibly just grief-stricken and/or stupid.

What kind of lawyer would take that case? Seriously, suing a zoo after the mother dropped her kid into the enclosure? I would just back out of the room slowly saying "thanks, but no".


Better call Saul!

Guns n' Farkin Roses: I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.

And maybe the dogs rip me to screds too, but if my kid is in there i'm hopping over and a few of these puppies are going down with us.

Or just push her in:
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I was thinking the same thing as well. Jump down scream throw some rocks , sticks something.
 
2013-09-12 05:01:46 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: R.A.Danny: Morsel. HAHAHAHA!!

Really though, being a dad, this farking crushes me. He trusted his mommy, and I'm sure his last thought as he was being torn to shreds and in agonizing pain was "Mommy will fix this".

This :(


Definitely got some tears out of me.  I remember when it happened (this family lives very close) just feeling near sick with grief, just because it was so easy to imagine what it would feel like in her place.  My son is almost the same age, and it really bothered me for a while.

Still think she's a selfish biatch for suing the zoo, though.
 
2013-09-12 05:01:51 PM
A wild pack of family dogs came runnin' through the yard one day
As my little sister played
The dogs took her away and I guess she was eaten up okay
Yeah, she was eaten up okay

I didn't say much of anything at all
Didn't say much of anything at all
Didn't say much of anything at all
 
2013-09-12 05:03:46 PM

Guns n' Farkin Roses: I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.


Depending on the drop, the fall might have incapacitated her immediately, in which case the gesture would have accomplished exactly nothing.  Fighting dogs is one thing -- maybe heroic -- but fighting gravity is just plain dumb.
 
2013-09-12 05:04:16 PM
This is totally unacceptable.  I don't know what the zoo was thinking, with safety standards so lax.  A railing and a moat, sure, but where's the obvious incentive to stay behind those clearly-crossable barriers?  The zoo should have done more.  Something like, say, keeping dangerous animals on the other side of that railing, so that nobody with any good sense would risk falling over it, out of fear of the dangerous animals.

Why this wasn't thought of, I have no idea.
 
2013-09-12 05:04:43 PM

darth_badger: I wonder what the animals poop looked like?


At least one of them had glasses, so it probably felt like one of those portraits that stare at you.
 
2013-09-12 05:05:26 PM

MBooda: Matthew Keene: Separated at birth...

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Ralphie wanted a gun.  All little Maddox wanted was a puppy.


First class ticket, please.
 
2013-09-12 05:05:33 PM
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2013-09-12 05:05:44 PM

jshine: Guns n' Farkin Roses: I don't want to come off all "Internet Tough Guy" but how does she or someone else not jump in right away and start wrecking shop on these dogs until help comes?  At least pickup the kid and start screaming at them hysterically, maybe kick a few of them in the gunt.

Depending on the drop, the fall might have incapacitated her immediately, in which case the gesture would have accomplished exactly nothing.  Fighting dogs is one thing -- maybe heroic -- but fighting gravity is just plain dumb.


And remember the 45 degree railing that would have made it very difficult to get over and into the cage.  Well, unless someone would have helped her over the way she did for her kid.
 
2013-09-12 05:05:47 PM

R.A.Danny: Why haven't charges been pressed against the mother?


That's the missing piece. Child endangerment. She should be charged with that crime. Or at least dingo fishing without a license.
 
2013-09-12 05:06:45 PM

itsaidwhat: R.A.Danny: Why haven't charges been pressed against the mother?

That's the missing piece. Child endangerment. She should be charged with that crime. Or at least dingo fishing without a license.


Feeding wild animals without a permit?  Is that a crime in Pittsburgh?
 
2013-09-12 05:08:50 PM
Why, oh, why, oh why can't THIS be the kind of case for which I get jury duty?
 
2013-09-12 05:09:24 PM
Step 1.  Run up credit card debt

Step 2.  Realize kids a expensive

Step 3.  "Drop" kid into enclosure

Step 4.  PROFIT!!!!!
 
2013-09-12 05:10:14 PM

Begoggle: Maddox died Nov. 4



A firetruck came to rescue him but it looked like this


Yes, of course. The fire truck with whiskers...for the dingo emergency. Classic.
 
2013-09-12 05:10:44 PM

Guns n' Farkin Roses: Or just push her in:
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Exactly! So she could eat the dingoes!
 
2013-09-12 05:13:03 PM

ShamanGator: At least the lawyer didn't accuse her of trying to profit from the kids death.  I'd say he showed pretty good restraint on that part.


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I had to. We needed the money.
 
2013-09-12 05:13:33 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: the morsel in question


Oh Mr Maddox Magoo, you've done it again!!
 
2013-09-12 05:15:01 PM
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2013-09-12 05:15:15 PM

R.A.Danny: How is this father not punching that asshole of a mother's face inside out?

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Is that guy with the beard PS in?  The look on his face is the only non-idiot face.  He looks like he just walked into the wrong funeral.

Also, if this was an only child, the father has a chance for a clean break from the idiot wife/former mother.
 
2013-09-12 05:15:36 PM
 Seriously? When my kid was that age I was so paranoid that I didn't even go near the rail.
 
2013-09-12 05:15:55 PM
Hey, that zoo owes her a compensatory payment!!!

/They pay the zookeepers that feed the animals, right? Well, she fed them. Pay up, suckas!
 
2013-09-12 05:18:54 PM

Lollipop165: monoski: R.A.Danny: Why haven't charges been pressed against the mother?

This

If she didn't sue the zoo, I would say let her go without charges. Its a tragedy enough, and obviously a stupid (really, really really stupid) mistake. Taking personal responsibility for killing your own child is punishment enough.

But now that's she's trying to shift blame onto the zoo... I saw make her pay. She's obviously learned nothing.


Seconded
 
2013-09-12 05:21:23 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Normally I'd agree that blaming a parent for a death in the midst of a lawsuit is scummy, but it appears warranted in this case.

Why the fark do people not understand that safety warnings apply to them, too? It's not like a speed limit or some stupid rule that is annoying and seemingly designed only to give govt entities an excuse to fine you.

It's an actual safety measure designed to keep you from dying. Why the fark do people ignore shiat like that? So the kid can get a better look at a bunch of dogs?

I feel certain she'll be blaming herself for his death until she herself dies. And she should. Because it is her fault, if the situation is as the story describes.

I've seen people prop their very young children on the railing at the zoo. Idiots.


Goddamn THIS. If you complain about\ignore safety warnings,  that is your own damn fault and you are an idiot if you get hurt, not a victim.
 
2013-09-12 05:21:32 PM

BiffSpiffy: R.A.Danny: How is this father not punching that asshole of a mother's face inside out?

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Is that guy with the beard PS in?  The look on his face is the only non-idiot face.  He looks like he just walked into the wrong funeral.

Also, if this was an only child, the father has a chance for a clean break from the idiot wife/former mother.


I'd be booted out of the courtroom at the divorce hearing for referring to her as "That Stupid Coont".

Every filing would use that as her name.
 
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