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2013-09-12 07:16:05 PM  

Fade2black: Franco: The 1% internet defense force is out in force in this thread. Note. You guys are on the same plane of morality as the royalists where during the revolutionary war. When the second revolution happens. And it will. You can't have those levels of inequality grow like this or there will be a blood bath (according to every history book ever).

Oh please.  You know, there actually *are* people out there working hard to make a good living, right?  Those revolution types you speak of are Occupy folks, who do nothing while in those camps except yell out EVIL RICH and BUY ME A CAR, all the while the rest of society goes to their job, these people shiat in the streets and peddle for spare change so they can get high.

Then one day they approach the age of 30 and either tell themselves they need to get their shiat together and get a life, or they look at anyone else who didn't waste theirs, and decide they need to give more back so that they can continue shiatting the streets and getting high.

Good luck with your "revolution".


The more accurate response would be that there will be no revolution. Because there will never be enough people with the mix of anger and lack of sucking on the government teet to start one.
 
2013-09-12 07:17:29 PM  

FlashHarry: well, that's their right, of course. just as it's my right not to shop at their shiatty stores.


Um, this. Stop giving them money if at all possible.
 
2013-09-12 07:21:24 PM  

Scoop84: Headso: nosferatublue: What do you think all this money is doing, pray tell?

I'll tell you what it's not doing.... It's certainly not paying their employees a living wage so the rest of the tax payers don't have to pick up their slack.

Where would they be working if Wal-Mart didn't exist?  Instead of picking up the slack, would we be picking up even more?


True, there were no jobs before Wal-Mart birthed them like the benevolent job creators they are.

\They need to start making company scrip.
 
2013-09-12 07:22:26 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: They take advantage of tax laws...much in the same way as you and I do...and much like Gates and Buffet do.

What was the beef again?


Plutocracy is the beef.

Not just personal jealousy and wanting to 'tear down' successful people, which you might like to view it as. It's about the power and leverage that come with it and the entitlement/entrenchment of massive inherited fortunes in a market system.

There's no reason to think that such a system couldn't be just as perverse and freedom-limiting as  communism. Or any other failed system, for that matter. Implementation and maintenance matter.
 
2013-09-12 07:22:49 PM  
Hey, has anyone seen the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundations offices?

I hear it cost $250 million.

I bet that would feed Africa for a day or two.
 
2013-09-12 07:25:11 PM  

Slam1263: Hey, has anyone seen the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundations offices?

I hear it cost $250 million.

I bet that would feed Africa for a day or two.


Professional charities are laundromats.  Collect millions, disperse thousands, claim huge overhead.  Effective charity is 1:1, as a rule.
 
2013-09-12 07:26:23 PM  

Astorix: Tigger: Conservatism is just what we call the political expression of the character flaw selfishness.

Also known as one of the seven deadly sins: avarice. Not a Bible thumper by any stretch of the imagination, but the writers of those sins knew human nature.


Your confusing avarice with greed.

/I am greedy, because what I earn is mine
//but not avaricious, because what you earn is yours
 
2013-09-12 07:27:14 PM  

jayphat: Fade2black: Franco: The 1% internet defense force is out in force in this thread. Note. You guys are on the same plane of morality as the royalists where during the revolutionary war. When the second revolution happens. And it will. You can't have those levels of inequality grow like this or there will be a blood bath (according to every history book ever).

Oh please.  You know, there actually *are* people out there working hard to make a good living, right?  Those revolution types you speak of are Occupy folks, who do nothing while in those camps except yell out EVIL RICH and BUY ME A CAR, all the while the rest of society goes to their job, these people shiat in the streets and peddle for spare change so they can get high.

Then one day they approach the age of 30 and either tell themselves they need to get their shiat together and get a life, or they look at anyone else who didn't waste theirs, and decide they need to give more back so that they can continue shiatting the streets and getting high.

Good luck with your "revolution".

The more accurate response would be that there will be no revolution. Because there will never be enough people with the mix of anger and lack of sucking on the government teet to start one.


Good point...why rail against the government when they're the actual nanny taxing the evil rich so you can still stand around on welfare?  Defeats the purpose of being a piece of shiat in the first place.
 
2013-09-12 07:30:05 PM  

HeartBurnKid: way south: I thought the point of it being your money is that you can decide what to do with it.
Not everyone is a philanthropist just because they are rich.

Well, yeah, you can decide what to do with it.  And we can decide what we think of you based on what you do with it.




Your tears of impotent rage are fine so long as they don't end up costing my estate money.
The only obligation I have is to pay the taxes. Anything beyond that is purely optional.

/there's no guarantee that those who put money into a charity of their own making aren't just sheltering it creatively.
/These guys might be getting hare for being honest about their intentions.
 
2013-09-12 07:34:30 PM  

Fade2black: Defeats the purpose of being a piece of shiat in the first place.


And as we all know, money is god and people should be judged as successes or "pieces of sh*t" by how much of it they've managed to get their hands on, by whatever means.  Get food stamps and rent assistance or unemployment?  Piece of sh*t.  Pay millions to legislators to allow you to make more billions!  Success!

I don't think the people with a vested interest in somehow coming up with the gas bill, this month, are all necessarily slimy, lazy, ill educated Honey Boo Boo fans, sucking down Faygo and trading their EBT bennies for Marlboro Lights at "Achnad's friendly and none too concerned about item entry" bodega.

I think people who are worried sh*tless about being three missed paychecks from standing in the same line as the people who ARE pulling that crap desperately need to look doen their nose at them.

When you eat the whole pizza, a lot of people who chipped in on it really do have to eat the cardboard container it came in for dinner.  And that's not success.  That's being a pig.
 
2013-09-12 07:35:06 PM  
I haven't shopped at Walmart in at least five years...I pay illegal immigrants to shop there for me.
 
2013-09-12 07:36:49 PM  

way south: Your tears of impotent rage


Wow, you must be some kind of big deal I never heard about, til now.  Man, scathing.  Can I use that?  It's so "suck my dick, poor man" kewill.  *snort*
 
2013-09-12 07:37:18 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: doyner: Maybe because that family has more sway over what tax law is than yours or mine.

I'm still trying to figure out what the gripe is in TFA.


Simple. They have a lot of money and envious Farkers who don't are all butthurt.
 
2013-09-12 07:38:28 PM  
If you had invested $5000 in the Wal-Mart IPO (initial public offering - price $16.50 per share) in October 1970, and still owned the stocks today, you would have seen your $5,000 grow into $65,000,000.

65 MILLION.

Which is about what each Walton heir receive in yearly dividend checks alone.
 
2013-09-12 07:39:21 PM  

Delectatio Morosa: Simple. They have a lot of money and envious Farkers who don't are all butthurt.


I am endlessly amused by the fact that you most likely actually see the world that way.
 
2013-09-12 07:40:32 PM  

bunner: Fade2black: Defeats the purpose of being a piece of shiat in the first place.

And as we all know, money is god and people should be judged as successes or "pieces of sh*t" by how much of it they've managed to get their hands on, by whatever means.  Get food stamps and rent assistance or unemployment?  Piece of sh*t.  Pay millions to legislators to allow you to make more billions!  Success!

I don't think the people with a vested interest in somehow coming up with the gas bill, this month, are all necessarily slimy, lazy, ill educated Honey Boo Boo fans, sucking down Faygo and trading their EBT bennies for Marlboro Lights at "Achnad's friendly and none too concerned about item entry" bodega.

I think people who are worried sh*tless about being three missed paychecks from standing in the same line as the people who ARE pulling that crap desperately need to look doen their nose at them.

When you eat the whole pizza, a lot of people who chipped in on it really do have to eat the cardboard container it came in for dinner.  And that's not success.  That's being a pig.


Or they could go home and make their own dinner instead of waiting for scraps from someone else who doesn't care about them at all.  Your analogy would have more meaning if eating that cardboard was their only choice.  But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids.  It's more important to go out on Friday and party instead of study for an upcoming test in school.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything...but by god we'll blame everyone BUT me for me doing what I'm doing right NOW!
 
2013-09-12 07:43:00 PM  

bunner: Delectatio Morosa: Simple. They have a lot of money and envious Farkers who don't are all butthurt.

I am endlessly amused by the fact that you most likely actually see the world that way.


I don't hear you laughing.
 
2013-09-12 07:46:24 PM  

Fade2black: But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids.  It's more important to go out on Friday and party instead of study for an upcoming test in school.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything...but by god we'll blame everyone BUT me for me doing what I'm doing right NOW!


And if you ARE poor and you DON'T see the world that way and are TRYING to support yourself on scraps from people who don't care about you in the form of a sh*tty job, you DON'T have another choice.  Lemme guess, they should go back to college at 40,000.00 a year and get bootstrappy?  Sell apples?  You can justify morbid avarice in the face of crippling poverty by saying all poor people are lazy con artists, but it's more of a security blanket than a fact.
 
2013-09-12 07:47:50 PM  

Delectatio Morosa: bunner: Delectatio Morosa: Simple. They have a lot of money and envious Farkers who don't are all butthurt.

I am endlessly amused by the fact that you most likely actually see the world that way.

I don't hear you laughing.


That's because the webcam mic is off.  Is this going somewhere?  Cause I already spit the bait out, chewed through the line and your hook is now decorating the sea floor.
 
2013-09-12 07:49:56 PM  
Fade2black:
Or they could go home and make their own dinner instead of waiting for scraps from someone else who doesn't care about them at all.  Your analogy would have more meaning if eating that cardboard was their only choice.  But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids.  It's more important to go out on Friday and party instead of study for an upcoming test in school.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything...but by god we'll blame everyone BUT me for me doing what I'm doing right NOW!

Lol what? College grad rates have been increasing as per  http://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/details/education/college-completio n .aspx

Also, I think you read fark too much. But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids...Seriously? I tried, but I could not find any article about starving a kid so a cell could be afforded. A handful of neglectful nannies but that is it. So... yeah probably a troll.

For the analogy, If I paid for pizza, and still have  to go home to make my own, that is farking messed up. To think that is even an option is even more so.
 
2013-09-12 07:51:26 PM  

bunner: Delectatio Morosa: bunner: Delectatio Morosa: Simple. They have a lot of money and envious Farkers who don't are all butthurt.

I am endlessly amused by the fact that you most likely actually see the world that way.

I don't hear you laughing.

That's because the webcam mic is off.  Is this going somewhere?  Cause I already spit the bait out, chewed through the line and your hook is now decorating the sea floor.


I am endlessly amused by your overactive imagination.
 
2013-09-12 07:53:07 PM  

Delectatio Morosa: I am endlessly amused by your overactive imagination.


That's what I thought.  Word to your homeroom teach.  Bye.  *click*
 
2013-09-12 07:55:57 PM  

bunner: Fade2black: But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids.  It's more important to go out on Friday and party instead of study for an upcoming test in school.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything...but by god we'll blame everyone BUT me for me doing what I'm doing right NOW!

And if you ARE poor and you DON'T see the world that way and are TRYING to support yourself on scraps from people who don't care about you in the form of a sh*tty job, you DON'T have another choice.  Lemme guess, they should go back to college at 40,000.00 a year and get bootstrappy?  Sell apples?  You can justify morbid avarice in the face of crippling poverty by saying all poor people are lazy con artists, but it's more of a security blanket than a fact.


Taxing the rich isn't gonna help out that situation any more.  All it does it funnel more money into the government coffers so they can blow it paying off lobbyists and union bosses.  It's cute that you think the government gives a shiat about you though.  I'm sure that's really done wonders for you up until now.
 
2013-09-12 07:57:24 PM  
If I had the choice between being wealthy and considered amoral, and being poor and considered moral, fark each and every one of you, give me the money.
 
2013-09-12 07:59:40 PM  

bunner: Delectatio Morosa: I am endlessly amused by your overactive imagination.

That's what I thought.  Word to your homeroom teach.  Bye.  *click*


Uh huh. Thought so. Come back again when you can stay longer.
 
2013-09-12 08:00:22 PM  

HisBoyLeroy: A day of reckoning will come. Not in our lifetimes or even our children's lifetime, but at some point the masses will not be appeased with reality TV and enough income to keep them hopeful and helpless. Or more probably, some outer space people are going to reveal themselves and show us how to run a civilized society where the exploitation of people and the manipulation of economic systems isn't the true objective of wealth. Outer space people know that it isn't a viable paradigm and moved in a different direction in order to prolong their existence in a terminal universe.


Outer space people are more likely to show up, park illegally (like they work at the UN) , then fark the wimmin and eat the men and dogs.
 
2013-09-12 08:13:21 PM  

JNowe: HisBoyLeroy: A day of reckoning will come. Not in our lifetimes or even our children's lifetime, but at some point the masses will not be appeased with reality TV and enough income to keep them hopeful and helpless. Or more probably, some outer space people are going to reveal themselves and show us how to run a civilized society where the exploitation of people and the manipulation of economic systems isn't the true objective of wealth. Outer space people know that it isn't a viable paradigm and moved in a different direction in order to prolong their existence in a terminal universe.

Right.  Our masses are going to stuff themselves into a cheese- and sauce-fueled coma and an early 'beetus grave.  They're not going to do anything that involves heavy breathing.


Sounds like you are talking about pizza and I hope that even Outer space people enjoy pizza. Lorenzo's in Philly has pizza that I like, but that's not to say there aren't better slices out there. Anyhow, the Outer space people are the only ones that can help us because of exactly what you stated about us. Outer space people laugh at our concepts of banking, taxation, wealth, and happiness.
 
2013-09-12 08:17:47 PM  

steamingpile: Whats your point? They earned it and can do what they want.


yeah falling out of the right vagina takes a lot of skill.
 
2013-09-12 08:18:05 PM  

Fade2black: All it does it funnel more money into the government coffers so they can blow it paying off lobbyists and union bosses.


Yeah, it's not like we can break the collective body politic's foot off in the asses of the paper pushers if we tried.  That's SOSHLISM!

Fade2black: It's cute that you think the government gives a shiat about you though.  I'm sure that's really done wonders for you up until now.


I do?  I missed that.  But if they do or do not, whatever delusions you need to inaccurately assign to me, they have probably served me at least as well as looking out at the world and saying "it's all bullsh*t, so man up and eat it whole, like me."
 
2013-09-12 08:20:55 PM  
So, what is this, some kind of jealousy thing? It's gawker, so they're upset at anyone who doesn't live in a 200 square foot apartment. This is news?
 
2013-09-12 08:25:05 PM  

garkola: So, what is this, some kind of jealousy thing?


Well, duh.  Sure.  Attempting to address pigf*cking greed as anything other than individuals who just envy the pigf*cking greedy is just communism, man.  They'd suck a DICK to be in the Walton family!  And pretty much have to to work there for 7.40 an hour.  MURKAH!
 
2013-09-12 08:32:35 PM  

bunner: Fade2black: But these days it's more important to own a cell phone than to feed your kids.  It's more important to go out on Friday and party instead of study for an upcoming test in school.  Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything...but by god we'll blame everyone BUT me for me doing what I'm doing right NOW!

And if you ARE poor and you DON'T see the world that way and are TRYING to support yourself on scraps from people who don't care about you in the form of a sh*tty job, you DON'T have another choice.  Lemme guess, they should go back to college at 40,000.00 a year and get bootstrappy?  Sell apples?  You can justify morbid avarice in the face of crippling poverty by saying all poor people are lazy con artists, but it's more of a security blanket than a fact.


Or sacrifice and make something happen. Oilfield is booming, the best money I made in my life was in the Gulf of Mexico and I was 4 states away from where I needed to be to get that job, sold the last of anything I had of worth and made the trip there to get a job which took all of half a day after arriving. Hard manual labor and being away from the ones you love weeks at a time isn't for everyone but if its a way out then suck it up or quit your biatching. The money you can earn in the oil field can be life changing when you have shat to begin with.

That's just one example I can think of as far as my personal experience when it comes to being a few days from the soup kitchen due to my poor choices in life to having more money then I knew what to do with and im sure there are tons of other ways that people can change thier life for the better without going 50k into debt with no guarantee of any type of return in this economy.
 
2013-09-12 08:37:55 PM  

bunner: garkola: So, what is this, some kind of jealousy thing?

Well, duh.  Sure.  Attempting to address pigf*cking greed as anything other than individuals who just envy the pigf*cking greedy is just communism, man.  They'd suck a DICK to be in the Walton family!  And pretty much have to to work there for 7.40 an hour.  MURKAH!


Bunner, I've always considered you reasonably sane. Is the whole problem here the fact that they have made a lot of money? That they made a lot of money off of farking over their workers? What? In plain English for us economically retarded people.

To me all the justifications for being upset sound an awful lot like "he has more than me and its not fair" bickering.

Yeah we want more people to earn more money to keep up with costs of goods. But I don't see what good it does us to biatch and moan about people who got theirs, when we aren't willing to go after a better life for ourselves. We can biatch or we can strike for better wages. We can biatch or we can work to open up competition.

So why are we wasting electrons when we're getting nowhere and not even really making cogent arguments that educate.

Or is the pie fight more fun than learning and actually organizing to do better?
 
2013-09-12 08:38:01 PM  

FlashHarry: well, that's their right, of course. just as it's my right not to shop at their shiatty stores.


I've never set foot in a WalMart.
 
2013-09-12 08:38:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I've never set foot in a WalMart.


I bet that scores you all the chicks.
 
2013-09-12 08:39:21 PM  

dropdfun: That's just one example I can think of as far as my personal experience when it comes to being a few days from the soup kitchen due to my poor choices in life to having more money then I knew what to do with


What would you recommend for somebody over 50 with serious skills that AREN'T manual labor, who isn't lazy , has neuropathy so bad that being on their feet for more than three hours is agony and doesn't even have the dough or car to go to where this heretofore unknown boom town lies beckoning?  That's also an accurate situation for somebody, and many others like that situation exist.  My guess is somewhere between an ice floe and "hey, whatever".  Many honest Americans keep standing in line to fit into little boxes they  don't fit into so they are not perceived as lazy trash, and yet, still end up on the ass end of the land of opportunity.  It's time to stop pretending that a that a society that throws away it's aged and infirm, lest they are up to their gazoinky in quan, is a functional one.
 
2013-09-12 08:42:24 PM  
dropdfun:

That's just one example I can think of as far as my personal experience when it comes to being a few days from the soup kitchen due to my poor choices in life to having more money then I knew what to do with and im sure there are tons of other ways that people can change thier life for the better without going 50k into debt with no guarantee of any type of return in this economy.

Yeah, you can always start hooking.
 
2013-09-12 08:44:00 PM  

freak7: Gyrfalcon: I've never set foot in a WalMart.

I bet that scores you all the chicks.


Might try that one next time I need some quick action and I'm in a whole foods. My "I just finished a 15 year sentence in a federal prison" is getting old and backfired on me last time I used it since the chix brother was down in the institution I claimed to have just been released from. My only saving grace was that at one point I had worked in a federal prison and knew enough about the goings on inside one to convince her that I actually had done time there and still pulled it off. I just hope I never run into her randomly because im sure by now she has talked to her deadbeat brother and inquired about "Death".
 
2013-09-12 08:45:29 PM  

Cyclonic Cooking Action: dropdfun:

That's just one example I can think of as far as my personal experience when it comes to being a few days from the soup kitchen due to my poor choices in life to having more money then I knew what to do with and im sure there are tons of other ways that people can change thier life for the better without going 50k into debt with no guarantee of any type of return in this economy.

Yeah, you can always start hooking.


While I would never condone anything illegal as a way to earn a living, if thats the best you can do in life and it stops you from sucking off my earnings then knock yourself out.
 
2013-09-12 08:48:58 PM  

Kit Fister: Bunner, I've always considered you reasonably sane.


Well, that's nice to know.  thanks.

Kit Fister: Is the whole problem here the fact that they have made a lot of money? That they made a lot of money off of farking over their workers? What? In plain English for us economically retarded people.


The problem is that any society that concentrates all the wealth, power and access into the hands of an "elite" few usually ends up on the ass end of a blowtorch.  I sort of like what this joint sells itself as.  The way it actually works, or doesn't, is not that's in that ad.

Kit Fister: To me all the justifications for being upset sound an awful lot like "he has more than me and its not fair" bickering.


That's because if you can convince people that the only reason the poor and ill used are poor and ill used is because they're just jealous poo heads, it keeps the whole "YOU CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING!" malarkey daisy fresh, despite the electric fence and glass case.

Kit Fister: So why are we wasting electrons when we're getting nowhere and not even really making cogent arguments that educate.


I don't think it's totally futile to let people know that if they weren't born to a man who made enough money to make Croesus vomit, that they're not a useless putz, a failure or a leech and that maybe, just maybe, all this free range opportunity - anybody can grab a pony and ride BS - is, oddly, BS.  Also, yeah, I tend to shill for ethics as a self evidently valuable construct.  Wider scope view and all that.  Then again, I'm not rich, so I probably just wish I could sleep with a Walton heir and buy a Rolls to impress all the other poors at the local bar.  *sigh*
 
2013-09-12 08:49:58 PM  

bunner: garkola: So, what is this, some kind of jealousy thing?

Well, duh.  Sure.  Attempting to address pigf*cking greed as anything other than individuals who just envy the pigf*cking greedy is just communism, man.  They'd suck a DICK to be in the Walton family!  And pretty much have to to work there for 7.40 an hour.  MURKAH!


Do you read everything that you write?

Nobody doubts that there are people who need help and people who "can't" better their situation, but let the anger go man cuz, well, you know.
 
2013-09-12 08:50:02 PM  

TV's Vinnie: The whole Wal Mart system, from it's disgustingly-greedy owners, to it's awful policies against a decent living wage, to the horrific abominations of nature who go there to shop, is proof without a doubt that there is no God.

A swirling vortex of avarice, cruelty, and inbred stupidity.


Don't like it? Vote with your wallet.
 
2013-09-12 08:54:08 PM  

bunner: dropdfun: That's just one example I can think of as far as my personal experience when it comes to being a few days from the soup kitchen due to my poor choices in life to having more money then I knew what to do with

What would you recommend for somebody over 50 with serious skills that AREN'T manual labor, who isn't lazy , has neuropathy so bad that being on their feet for more than three hours is agony and doesn't even have the dough or car to go to where this heretofore unknown boom town lies beckoning?  That's also an accurate situation for somebody, and many others like that situation exist.  My guess is somewhere between an ice floe and "hey, whatever".  Many honest Americans keep standing in line to fit into little boxes they  don't fit into so they are not perceived as lazy trash, and yet, still end up on the ass end of the land of opportunity.  It's time to stop pretending that a that a society that throws away it's aged and infirm, lest they are up to their gazoinky in quan, is a functional one.


Sounds harsh but if you haven't prepared financially for such contingency by the age of 50 then that's piss poor planing on your part. Luckily for you there are programs for those that need them. Sure you will never have the biggest newest tv or the best cell phone on the market but you will have a roof over your head and food in your belly.

My aunt falls into this category, wasted what she could have saved for the first 40 years of her life on cocaine and partying and now due to some bone degeneration disease she can no longer work. She at least has a roof over her head and food to eat everyday due to government programs for those that honestly cant work, not to mention two new knees and surgeries to replace some disks that disolved in her neck. Doesn't have much but she is healthy as can be expected and because of that is generally a happy lady.
 
2013-09-12 08:54:45 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: They take advantage of tax laws...much in the same way as you and I do...and much like Gates and Buffet do.

What was the beef again?


That they pay their workers shiat wages? Not really about taxes, it's about it's about stinking rich people amassing obscene amounts of wealth on the backs of people they pay less than a living wage to.
 
2013-09-12 08:56:13 PM  

dropdfun: Sounds harsh but if you haven't prepared financially for such contingency by the age of 50 then that's piss poor planing on your part.


Oh, the person that applies to has lots of plans.  Tons of them.  Solid ones.  Access to means isn't for just any nobody with some plans.  That's communism.
 
2013-09-12 08:58:11 PM  

dropdfun: My aunt falls into this category, wasted what she could have saved for the first 40 years of her life on cocaine and partying


Yeah, you caught me.  Anybody who is in ill health AND poor and can't find work pissed it all away on cocaine.  Nothing gets past you.  Nice bootstraps.
 
2013-09-12 08:58:45 PM  

bmihura: TV's Vinnie: The whole Wal Mart system, from it's disgustingly-greedy owners, to it's awful policies against a decent living wage, to the horrific abominations of nature who go there to shop, is proof without a doubt that there is no God.

A swirling vortex of avarice, cruelty, and inbred stupidity.

Don't like it? Vote with your wallet.


Exactly. And while you're at it, tell one of the poor "horrific abominations of nature" how much you care about him or her and wish the disgustingly greedy rich would just take care of them to help you feel better.
 
2013-09-12 08:59:07 PM  
that's the thing about life...

Nobody can force you not to be an asshole.

It's always up to you.
 
2013-09-12 09:00:20 PM  

austin_millbarge: Dancin_In_Anson: They take advantage of tax laws...much in the same way as you and I do...and much like Gates and Buffet do.

What was the beef again?

That they pay their workers shiat wages? Not really about taxes, it's about it's about stinking rich people amassing obscene amounts of wealth on the backs of people they pay less than a living wage to.


Was their a clause in the hiring process where these people were promised a "living wage" when they applied and hired on? Living wage by who's standards? Knew a guy 6 years ago through some chick I was with who stocked Walmart at night. Had a one bedroom apartment, food and enough money to buy his magic the gathering cards he loved to play when he wasn't watching sci fi movies on his cathode ray TV after burning one. He was living, not high on the hog but he had what he wanted in life as far as I can tell.
 
2013-09-12 09:05:00 PM  

Via Infinito: wee: Who farking cares?  It's their dimes...

I'll just leave this here for you.


Succinct and accurate.  Thanks for the TF.   :  )
 
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