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2013-09-12 02:09:11 PM

vudukungfu: Walker: How much money does this woman need????

Every tuppenceknute she's earned, matie.
Every farthing. galleon.

 
2013-09-12 02:09:25 PM

Saiga410: Please let this be an offshoot where we follow Neville around during the events in the books.  We get to see Neville work all the girls in the class while keeping it a secret and maintaining his dorkish rep.  We can call it Harry's Shadow.


We also learn that he picks Graff's fantasy football team.
 
2013-09-12 02:12:09 PM
The... regret I have about Rawlings is that, considering her origins, she has a Billion dollars - and could change the Real world of the homeless. And yet, here she is, and there they are.

If having lived through the situation doesn't activate some compassionate crusade in someone That wealthy... what chance does any cause have?
 
2013-09-12 02:13:33 PM
Would I need a seat over there if i were to opine that Bonnie Wright has grown up nicely?
 
2013-09-12 02:14:31 PM
Didn't she donate the entire proceeds of the Fantastic Beasts and Quidditch books to charity?
 
2013-09-12 02:15:22 PM

perigee: The... regret I have about Rawlings is that, considering her origins, she has a Billion dollars - and could change the Real world of the homeless. And yet, here she is, and there they are.

If having lived through the situation doesn't activate some compassionate crusade in someone That wealthy... what chance does any cause have?


You do know she give boatloads to charity, right? And from what I remember especially poor single mothers.
 
2013-09-12 02:19:32 PM
Luna married Rolf?
I thought for sure Neville was hitting that.
 
2013-09-12 02:21:49 PM
I wouldn't mind reading some stories featuring Luna after Hogwarts.
 
2013-09-12 02:23:58 PM
I wish this film would be about Luna (and Rolf) preparing a new edition instead of about Newt.
 
2013-09-12 02:25:41 PM

sign_of_Zeta: perigee: The... regret I have about Rawlings is that, considering her origins, she has a Billion dollars - and could change the Real world of the homeless. And yet, here she is, and there they are.

If having lived through the situation doesn't activate some compassionate crusade in someone That wealthy... what chance does any cause have?

You do know she give boatloads to charity, right? And from what I remember especially poor single mothers.


"New information about Rowling's estimated $160 million in charitable giving combined with Britain's high tax rates bumped the Harry Potter scribe from our list this year," Forbes noted in its "Billionaire Dropoffs" list.

dwighttowers.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-12 02:29:11 PM
Hermione Granger and the Pedophiles of Kazakhstan
 
2013-09-12 02:29:59 PM
Well according to Forbes from last year she has given at $160 million to charity.  http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/blogs/jk-rowlings-charity-g i ving-knocks-her-off-forbes-billionaires-list

"New information about Rowlings' estimated $160 million in charitable giving combined with Britain's high tax rates bumped the 'Harry Potter' scribe from our list this year," stated Forbes.
 
2013-09-12 02:30:25 PM

Fubini: //They should let Michael Bay David Lynch direct a Harry Potter film


I might actually go see that.
 
2013-09-12 02:31:18 PM

Mike Chewbacca: sign_of_Zeta: perigee: The... regret I have about Rawlings is that, considering her origins, she has a Billion dollars - and could change the Real world of the homeless. And yet, here she is, and there they are.

If having lived through the situation doesn't activate some compassionate crusade in someone That wealthy... what chance does any cause have?

You do know she give boatloads to charity, right? And from what I remember especially poor single mothers.

"New information about Rowling's estimated $160 million in charitable giving combined with Britain's high tax rates bumped the Harry Potter scribe from our list this year," Forbes noted in its "Billionaire Dropoffs" list.

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heh...spent too much time googling...

\tiny fist
 
2013-09-12 02:33:39 PM
If it keeps her from writing shiatty sparkly vampire type shiat then I say let her write.  At least we know she's capable of writing a decent kid's level novel.
 
2013-09-12 02:33:47 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow, the butthurt over wealthy people never ends here on Fark. It's also good to see that the "everything should be free and up for grabs" crowd have poked their troll heads in as well.


I don't have a problem with wealthy people.  I have a problem with people who buy dumb shiat with their wealth.
It's the "I have fark you money" crowd that draws most of the ire here on FARK.

A net worth of $1,000,000,000.00 is "fark you" money.  Definitely.
 
2013-09-12 02:33:49 PM
I enjoyed the movies for the most part, but things really went downhill starting on the 4th...just way to much material to cram into a 2.5 hour movie.  Shame because Goblet of Fire was my favorite book.
 
2013-09-12 02:38:25 PM

FrancoFile: b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)


FrancoFile: There's a reasonable argument to be made that guides and indices do not infringe copyright. Hence Cliff Notes, Sparknotes, etc.


You know how I know you didn't read Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc. v. RDR Books, and its associated materials?  575 F.Supp.2d 513 (SDNY 2008).  The fair use analysis there is pretty clean, and follows the statute well.  Fair use is not some magic talisman that removes all possibility of liability the minute it is shouted. A defendant actually needs to show it, and in that case, they didn't. 

Unlike Cliff's note and the like, the guide here was not transformative enough in scope and purpose.  Much like the Seinfeld guide in Castle Rock Entertainment Inc. v. Carol Publishing Group, the guide at issue in RDR Books was made for entertainment, not scholarly, purposes.  It also quoted extensively and lengthily from the source works, incorporating "distinctive original language from the Harry Potter works in excess of its otherwise legitimate purpose of creating a reference guide."  Add in the fact that Rowling already published guidebooks to the world and indicated intent to do/authorize more, and the fair use argument looks rather thin.  The Court properly applied the 107 factors and came to what appeared to be a reasonable result.  In the future, under the opinion, a guide to the Potter Books would totally be allowed, as long as it offered more transformative analysis and did not copy, wholesale, large swaths of Rowling's work.
 
2013-09-12 02:45:10 PM
Oh, and RDR went back, edited the book to add more commentary and remove a lot of the heavy quoting, and published the guide just fine.
 
2013-09-12 02:47:22 PM

FrancoFile: she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature


She wrote 7 books (9 if you count the 3 spin-offs) and her last Potter book came out in 2007. It's been 6 years, and her recent books have not been for kids. She's not "crowding out" other voices. If anything, she's the reason these other voices now have a bigger audience. Once kids read the series, which can be done in a week by dedicated readers, they are hungry for more. The Harry Potter series is fast moving to "Classic" status as children's books. They are becoming standards, but they are hardly the only voice out there. If you can't find any other kids' books or fantasy books, you just aren't looking hard enough.

Now, yes, it is harder for authors to break into publishing these books, but that's less the fault of Rowling and more about the state of today's publishing industry.
 
2013-09-12 02:50:59 PM

soporific: FrancoFile: she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature

She wrote 7 books (9 if you count the 3 spin-offs) and her last Potter book came out in 2007. It's been 6 years, and her recent books have not been for kids. She's not "crowding out" other voices. If anything, she's the reason these other voices now have a bigger audience. Once kids read the series, which can be done in a week by dedicated readers, they are hungry for more. The Harry Potter series is fast moving to "Classic" status as children's books. They are becoming standards, but they are hardly the only voice out there. If you can't find any other kids' books or fantasy books, you just aren't looking hard enough.

Now, yes, it is harder for authors to break into publishing these books, but that's less the fault of Rowling and more about the state of today's publishing industry.


I found it really funny when JK's publisher decided to come out with a whole new set of book covers because tons of adults were reading them, but were embarrassed by the child-like covers in public.

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2013-09-12 02:52:57 PM

HawgWild: FTFA: The eight Harry Potter films are the largest-grossing film franchise in history.

Because ... their were 8 of them?

/where you at, Bond fans?!


Not adjusted for inflation.

According to Box Office Mojo, adjusted for inflation, the Bond movies grossed a total of $5,146,439,000
The Harry Potter movies grossed an inflation-adjusted total of $2,889,298,000

So Bond is more successful overall, but Potter wins on average inflation adjusted gross per movie at $361,162,300 to Bond's $214,435,000
 
2013-09-12 02:58:23 PM

Fano: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

Crowding out? One can make the argument that she created a market for tween literature. When I was a kid, there seemed to be a big jump between kiddie books and adult lit. Finished with Babysitters Club/hardy boys/cleary/judy blume? Off to read Dickens and Austen.


You just had teachers that didn't give a crap. It was out there in the 80's if you looked for it.
 
2013-09-12 03:08:20 PM
More kick ass Neville?
 
2013-09-12 03:20:55 PM
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"Harry Potter Series 2:  The Search for More Money!"

/i'm ok with this
 
2013-09-12 03:20:58 PM

scottydoesntknow


I found it really funny when JK's publisher decided to come out with a whole new set of book covers because tons of adults were reading them, but were embarrassed by the child-like covers in public.


But is that really an improvement? They still say HARRY POTTER in large letters.
 
2013-09-12 03:21:05 PM

LucklessWonder: HawgWild: FTFA: The eight Harry Potter films are the largest-grossing film franchise in history.

Because ... their were 8 of them?

/where you at, Bond fans?!

Not adjusted for inflation.

According to Box Office Mojo, adjusted for inflation, the Bond movies grossed a total of $5,146,439,000
The Harry Potter movies grossed an inflation-adjusted total of $2,889,298,000

So Bond is more successful overall, but Potter wins on average inflation adjusted gross per movie at $361,162,300 to Bond's $214,435,000


how does adjusting for inflation reduce the earnings?
/math fail
 
2013-09-12 03:21:25 PM
I just started reading the books a short time ago (currently reading Harry Potter and The Order of the Phoenix). I'll finish a book and then watch the movie.

The first two movies were a bit tough to watch (I would fall asleep watching them and have to rewind later), but I really enjoyed Prisoner of Azkaban. I also liked what they did with The Goblet of Fire.

Rowling has a done a great job of creating a rich, cohesive universe.
 
2013-09-12 03:24:17 PM

chitownmike: LucklessWonder: HawgWild: FTFA: The eight Harry Potter films are the largest-grossing film franchise in history.

Because ... their were 8 of them?

/where you at, Bond fans?!

Not adjusted for inflation.

According to Box Office Mojo, adjusted for inflation, the Bond movies grossed a total of $5,146,439,000
The Harry Potter movies grossed an inflation-adjusted total of $2,889,298,000

So Bond is more successful overall, but Potter wins on average inflation adjusted gross per movie at $361,162,300 to Bond's $214,435,000

how does adjusting for inflation reduce the earnings?
/math fail


It doesn't but "largest-grossing film-franchise in history" is a slightly misleading term as a 2013 dollar and a 1962 dollar  aren't exactly at parity with each other, so when it comes to film grosses, adjusting for inflation gives a more honest comparison. Also, the numbers weren't mine, I just copied from Box Office Mojo, so if the math is wrong,blame them.
 
2013-09-12 03:29:44 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

I much prefer the movie 1, can watch or read 2 and prefer the books (especially 5) over the movies (which are still AWESOME).

5 is my favorite of the books, which makes me a weirdo because everyone else thinks it needs serious editing. But the libertarian in me freaking LOVES how the school revolts against Umbridge in the book, which is completely missing from the movie. They basically cut out my favorite part, so I was actually disappointed by the movie a bit. Oh, and I love that Harry finally becomes proactive rather than reactive (at Hermione's insistence).

/libertarian leftish-ist


5 sucks because Harry is a whiny little biatch in that one. He's fine in 4 and back to normal in 6. The plot of 5 is fine; it's just Harry's character that sucks.
 
2013-09-12 03:38:06 PM

Cymbal: Even though this isn't, I have no problem with someone doing cash grab projects when they donate significant portions of their wealth to charity.


Not only is she an enormous donator to charity, but she's specifically talked about remaining in England with its higher tax rates because those rates and the public services they paid for did so much for her when she was a single mom.
 
2013-09-12 03:38:13 PM

dartben: 5 sucks because Harry is a whiny little biatch in that one. He's fine in 4 and back to normal in 6. The plot of 5 is fine; it's just Harry's character that sucks.


He is definitely a twat in that one. But then, how do you expect a 14-year-old (or 15-year-old) to respond to witnessing one of his classmates get murdered, and then having the government completely deny that fact whilst calling you a liar in public?
 
2013-09-12 03:42:45 PM
th00.deviantart.net
 
2013-09-12 03:51:30 PM
She gets a lot of credit in my mind for not going the prequel route.
 
2013-09-12 04:00:42 PM
I hope they go with "Drunk Ron Weasley".
 
2013-09-12 04:01:52 PM

Copperbelly watersnake: She gets a lot of credit in my mind for not going the prequel route.


The prequels will be written by JKs son and another author.  These will cover the original raise of Voldemort.  Then they will do a pre pre prequel that will cover the actual generation of the hallows.   Then they will go thousands of years into the future and reveal that the hallows were not destroyed by Harry and only the 10^6th clone of Neville have the power to distroy them.
 
2013-09-12 04:07:41 PM

dartben: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

I much prefer the movie 1, can watch or read 2 and prefer the books (especially 5) over the movies (which are still AWESOME).

5 is my favorite of the books, which makes me a weirdo because everyone else thinks it needs serious editing. But the libertarian in me freaking LOVES how the school revolts against Umbridge in the book, which is completely missing from the movie. They basically cut out my favorite part, so I was actually disappointed by the movie a bit. Oh, and I love that Harry finally becomes proactive rather than reactive (at Hermione's insistence).

/libertarian leftish-ist

5 sucks because Harry is a whiny little biatch in that one. He's fine in 4 and back to normal in 6. The plot of 5 is fine; it's just Harry's character that sucks.


He's a whiney ass teenage who needs SOMEONE to put him in his place.

Hence why I copied and pasted my favorite scene earlier, as Ginny is the first person to do so.
 
2013-09-12 04:18:49 PM
I'm pretty liberal, but I have no problem with someone earning a lot of money doing actual real work that produces a product people eagerly purchase.  If only that description matched most of the -wealthy in this world, there would be a lot less bitterness.
 
2013-09-12 04:19:54 PM
Good on her... to a point. 160 million is no small potatoes... but still just ten percent of a Massive pond of spondolucks. Money that continues to regenerate and grow, for a woman who has, at the outside, perhaps 30 years left.

It would just be splendid to see one person who is willing to go balls-deep up against one problem, just because they know how evil it is, and they want to stomp it down flat. She will never, ever, ever be poor again, even if she only maintains one tenth of one percent of her current worth, not including continuing growth and refreshment. She could make a difference - not just a donation.

I don't fault her. But, as I said, I regret not seeing it happen.
 
2013-09-12 04:41:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: I found it really funny when JK's publisher decided to come out with a whole new set of book covers because tons of adults were reading them, but were embarrassed by the child-like covers in public.


And that's why I read The Hunger Games trilogy on my kindle
 
2013-09-12 04:43:04 PM

Mike Chewbacca: He is definitely a twat in that one. But then, how do you expect a 14-year-old (or 15-year-old) to respond to witnessing one of his classmates get murdered, and then having the government completely deny that fact whilst calling you a liar in public?


And he'd been abused for years by his relatives
 
2013-09-12 04:43:19 PM

Mike Chewbacca: dartben: 5 sucks because Harry is a whiny little biatch in that one. He's fine in 4 and back to normal in 6. The plot of 5 is fine; it's just Harry's character that sucks.

He is definitely a twat in that one. But then, how do you expect a 14-year-old (or 15-year-old) to respond to witnessing one of his classmates get murdered, and then having the government completely deny that fact whilst calling you a liar in public?


And the whole fact of Voldemort being all up in his mind and screwing with it (even unintentionally) for a significant portion of it. I enjoyed Snape's sneering at how weak Potter was at legilimency.
 
2013-09-12 04:44:30 PM

Dr. Kefarkian: ReapTheChaos: Wow, the butthurt over wealthy people never ends here on Fark. It's also good to see that the "everything should be free and up for grabs" crowd have poked their troll heads in as well.

I don't have a problem with wealthy people.  I have a problem with people who buy dumb shiat with their wealth.
It's the "I have fark you money" crowd that draws most of the ire here on FARK.

A net worth of $1,000,000,000.00 is "fark you" money.  Definitely.



Your "dumb shiat" is somebody else's "cool stuff"...who the fark are you to decide what somebody should buy with their money?  Do you pay all your bills and then donate the remainder of your paycheck to charity?
 
2013-09-12 05:19:16 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: scottydoesntknow: I found it really funny when JK's publisher decided to come out with a whole new set of book covers because tons of adults were reading them, but were embarrassed by the child-like covers in public.

And that's why I read The Hunger Games trilogy on my kindle


I just read the second two books of that last week. The story was only so-so, but I very much appreciated all the PTSD everyone had. There was no "and they lived happily ever after" in that series. Not at all.
 
2013-09-12 05:20:18 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: Mike Chewbacca: He is definitely a twat in that one. But then, how do you expect a 14-year-old (or 15-year-old) to respond to witnessing one of his classmates get murdered, and then having the government completely deny that fact whilst calling you a liar in public?

And he'd been abused for years by his relatives


scottydoesntknow: Mike Chewbacca: dartben: 5 sucks because Harry is a whiny little biatch in that one. He's fine in 4 and back to normal in 6. The plot of 5 is fine; it's just Harry's character that sucks.

He is definitely a twat in that one. But then, how do you expect a 14-year-old (or 15-year-old) to respond to witnessing one of his classmates get murdered, and then having the government completely deny that fact whilst calling you a liar in public?

And the whole fact of Voldemort being all up in his mind and screwing with it (even unintentionally) for a significant portion of it. I enjoyed Snape's sneering at how weak Potter was at legilimency.


And the boogeyman was literally trying to kill him, over and over again. Yes, Harry was a jerk in that book, but most 15-year-olds are jerks in real life and they're struggling with much less dire circumstances.
 
2013-09-12 05:38:01 PM
Normally I'd be against something like this, but I'm a sucker for good world building which is what the goal of this looks to be.
 
2013-09-12 05:48:43 PM

ReapTheChaos: Wow, the butthurt over wealthy people never ends here on Fark. It's also good to see that the "everything should be free and up for grabs" crowd have poked their troll heads in as well.


*poink!*

that was easy!

/A hint: if you're going to troll a thread, never use the word "troll" in any form in your post; it gives away the game.
 
2013-09-12 06:33:47 PM

Mike Chewbacca: but I very much appreciated all the PTSD everyone had. There was no "and they lived happily ever after" in that series. Not at all.


Strongest part of the story, IMHO.
 
2013-09-12 07:05:23 PM

elvindeath: I love all the people who biatch on Fark when someone is successful.  I can only imagine its because they have never come up with a creative idea of their own and then worked their ass off to make it a success.


Meh. Pratchett's "Unseen University" from the Discworld novels (a school of magic where the staff is so busy in academic infighting that no wizarding actually gets accomplished) always struck me as far superior.
 
2013-09-12 07:21:21 PM
That is all well and good, but I would like to see a little more about  what was happening over at Vince Clortho Public School For Wizards during the whole Voldemort incident.
 
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