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2013-09-12 12:50:49 PM
Harry Potter and the Spanish Inquisition.


Book it. Done.
 
2013-09-12 12:52:40 PM
From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????
 
2013-09-12 12:54:31 PM
I gotta say, there's nothing wrong with a good author producing good fiction and getting paid for it. I'm sorry that subby feels like making money is a bad thing.

Also, it'll at least be no worse than the other dreck they call films these days. It's not another Michael Bay film.

//They should let Michael Bay direct a Harry Potter film
 
2013-09-12 01:03:48 PM

Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????


I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)
 
2013-09-12 01:08:03 PM
I'll see it! I don't care what you all think!

:D!
 
2013-09-12 01:08:45 PM
Will it be like Life Aquatic but for kids?
 
2013-09-12 01:09:12 PM

FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)


It's her universe, so she gets to say who plays in it.
 
2013-09-12 01:13:00 PM

gopher321


Harry Potter and the Spanish Inquisition.


Nobody expects that.
 
2013-09-12 01:13:12 PM

give me doughnuts: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

It's her universe, so she gets to say who plays in it.


There's a reasonable argument to be made that guides and indices do not infringe copyright.  Hence Cliff Notes, Sparknotes, etc.
 
2013-09-12 01:17:16 PM

FrancoFile: give me doughnuts: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

It's her universe, so she gets to say who plays in it.

There's a reasonable argument to be made that guides and indices do not infringe copyright.  Hence Cliff Notes, Sparknotes, etc.


Cliff Notes / SParknotes also pay for the rights to publish those guides fyi.
 
2013-09-12 01:19:49 PM

Sning: FrancoFile: give me doughnuts: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

It's her universe, so she gets to say who plays in it.

There's a reasonable argument to be made that guides and indices do not infringe copyright.  Hence Cliff Notes, Sparknotes, etc.

Cliff Notes / SParknotes also pay for the rights to publish those guides fyi.


It is probably less about the money and more about boredom and enjoying the attention. But I imagine that more money will get her closer to the fabled "Oprah Money" tier...
 
2013-09-12 01:20:03 PM
Yes I am a big enough Harry Potter nerd that I will see this. Currently listening to a Harry Potter podcast about that
 
2013-09-12 01:21:22 PM
Wow, the butthurt over wealthy people never ends here on Fark. It's also good to see that the "everything should be free and up for grabs" crowd have poked their troll heads in as well.
 
2013-09-12 01:23:15 PM

Dr J Zoidberg: Yes I am a big enough Harry Potter nerd that I will see this. Currently listening to a Harry Potter podcast about that


I probably will too. They did an awesome job on creature creation for those movies. I'd love to see what they do with the ones that were only mentioned and never shown.
 
2013-09-12 01:24:04 PM
I very good friend of mine had the chance to work with the Harry Potter franchise years and years ago, before the movies came out but after after HP was hugely popular. JKR has a real issue with other people writing her characters. In fact, the project my friend was working on was cancelled specifically because she didn't want someone other than her writing any of her characters, especially not Harry, Ron, and Hermione. That being said, I completely understand why she feels that way.

Meanwhile, I'll just be happy there's another Potterverse movie in the works. It probably won't suck.
 
2013-09-12 01:25:46 PM

Sning: FrancoFile: give me doughnuts: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

It's her universe, so she gets to say who plays in it.

There's a reasonable argument to be made that guides and indices do not infringe copyright.  Hence Cliff Notes, Sparknotes, etc.

Cliff Notes / SParknotes also pay for the rights to publish those guides


Yes, they settled, and they shouldn't have.  Copyright law is farked up about that.

They produce added value, they don't reduce the value of the original work, and they are used for scholarly and critical purposes.  Completely within what copyright law *should* be.  Porn parodies are legal, but indices and study guides aren't?  That's farked up.
 
2013-09-12 01:26:11 PM
Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"
 
2013-09-12 01:27:56 PM

FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)


Crowding out? One can make the argument that she created a market for tween literature. When I was a kid, there seemed to be a big jump between kiddie books and adult lit. Finished with Babysitters Club/hardy boys/cleary/judy blume? Off to read Dickens and Austen.
 
2013-09-12 01:28:19 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"


I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.
 
2013-09-12 01:29:32 PM

Fano: FrancoFile: Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????

I'm more concerned with her empire (see Walt Disney).
a) she's crowding out other voices in children's literature and fantasy literature
b) she and her descendents will lawyer up so that her copyrights never expire (she's already done with once, squashing a 3rd party index/guide/concordance)

Crowding out? One can make the argument that she created a market for tween literature. When I was a kid, there seemed to be a big jump between kiddie books and adult lit. Finished with Babysitters Club/hardy boys/cleary/judy blume? Off to read Dickens and Austen.


Seriously! World of Warcraft is crowing out the MMO market! Avengers is crowding out the superhero market! The Yankees are crowding out the baseball market!
 
2013-09-12 01:29:42 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"


Azkaban was the first one I wore the spine out on. Always thought Sirius Black was a great character, one of the best on there.
 
2013-09-12 01:31:38 PM
Also, subby, she's got two new books one of which is being made into a tv series and another is going to be made into a film series. She doesn't need to go back to Harry Potter for more cash
 
2013-09-12 01:31:57 PM
FTFA: The eight Harry Potter films are the largest-grossing film franchise in history.

Because ... their were 8 of them?

/where you at, Bond fans?!
 
2013-09-12 01:36:38 PM
Buckaroo Banzai Harry Potter Against the World Crime League.
 
2013-09-12 01:36:57 PM
There's nothing wrong with Harry Potter; it's this generation's Wizard of Oz / Lord of the Rings / Star Wars, and it's understandable why there's tremendous pressure from the entertainment industry to keep a good thing going.

But here's the problem -- Rowling has built the world and told the story she set out to tell, resolving all of the characters and conflicts. Most people who aren't hardcore fans aren't too interested in the extended universe (as evidenced by the lack of mainstream interest in the three supplementary books already available or the Pottermore additions, both of which are virtually unknown by anyone but hardcore fans).

So we begin to descend into Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire territory, where we attempt to fill in gaps that don't need filling and expanding on great and popular stories with sub-par cash-ins. Let"s just hope Rowling doesn't further take us into prequel territory, since prequels are perhaps the laziest way to retell a popular story by showing the origins of popular characters through the adventures of people we don't care about and whose fates are already known.
 
2013-09-12 01:36:58 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.


I much prefer the movie 1, can watch or read 2 and prefer the books (especially 5) over the movies (which are still AWESOME).
 
2013-09-12 01:38:26 PM
Evil Mackerel: Buckaroo Banzai Harry Potter Against the World Crime League RoboPotter
 
2013-09-12 01:38:59 PM
Even though this isn't, I have no problem with someone doing cash grab projects when they donate significant portions of their wealth to charity.
 
2013-09-12 01:39:01 PM
I'd love to be married to her.
Just cook and clean and go out for dinner once in a while.

J.K, I give great foot massages, if you are reading this.
 
2013-09-12 01:40:49 PM

Walker: How much money does this woman need????


Every tuppence she's earned, matie.
Every farthing.
 
2013-09-12 01:43:13 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.


CSB: I read 1 when it 1st came out in paperback.  I was going on a cruise and wanted something light to read.  I had heard an interview with Rowling on Fresh Air and the story sounded good.  I started it in the line to get on the ship and finished it before we departed port.  I kept telling my wife that she should read it and that she would love it.  She kept saying 'but it's a childrens book'.  She finally read it about a month later and loved it so much that she eventually went to all of the release parties at Barnes and Noble dressed up as one of the adult characters and even won one of the costume contests.  I created a monster.  Although funtime with Tonks was awesome!
 
2013-09-12 01:44:00 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

I much prefer the movie 1, can watch or read 2 and prefer the books (especially 5) over the movies (which are still AWESOME).


5 is my favorite of the books, which makes me a weirdo because everyone else thinks it needs serious editing. But the libertarian in me freaking LOVES how the school revolts against Umbridge in the book, which is completely missing from the movie. They basically cut out my favorite part, so I was actually disappointed by the movie a bit. Oh, and I love that Harry finally becomes proactive rather than reactive (at Hermione's insistence).

/libertarian leftish-ist
 
2013-09-12 01:44:02 PM

Walker: From celebritynetworth.com:
JK Rowling is a British author and one of the wealthiest private citizens in the United Kingdom, with a net worth of $1 billion.

How much money does this woman need????


All of it.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
 
2013-09-12 01:44:24 PM

vudukungfu: I'd love to be married to her.
Just cook and clean and go out for dinner once in a while.

J.K, I give great foot massages, if you are reading this.


She's rich, has big boobs, and is rich. What more could a guy want?
 
2013-09-12 01:45:15 PM
One of the things that made the Harry Potter books popular with teens is that Rowling likes to use langue to hide clues. The main character in this book is  Newt Scamander.
 
2013-09-12 01:45:27 PM

stupiddream: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

CSB: I read 1 when it 1st came out in paperback.  I was going on a cruise and wanted something light to read.  I had heard an interview with Rowling on Fresh Air and the story sounded good.  I started it in the line to get on the ship and finished it before we departed port.  I kept telling my wife that she should read it and that she would love it.  She kept saying 'but it's a childrens book'.  She finally read it about a month later and loved it so much that she eventually went to all of the release parties at Barnes and Noble dressed up as one of the adult characters and even won one of the costume contests.  I created a monster.  Although funtime with Tonks was awesome!


accio wand! ENGORGIO!
 
2013-09-12 01:48:42 PM
A Harry Potterverse movie is a far better thing than a 4 hour Twilight "Director's Cut"

Why is this a cash-grab, yet Michael Chricton or Stephen King movies are ok, subby? You don't like it when female authors make money on movies?

What about James Bond/Jason Bourne franchises? Their authors are dead, yet their estates (or the copyright owners) still make gobs of cash off movies and no one biatches.
 
2013-09-12 01:50:57 PM
I liked my "Fantastic Profits and Where to Find Them" headline better. Oh well. I'll get over it.

Also, unlike many franchises, HP hasn't made me jaded about their product yet. So I'll probably see it. I've got a kid now who will be right in the target demographic when it comes out, so it's very likely.
 
2013-09-12 01:51:44 PM

stupiddream: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

CSB: I read 1 when it 1st came out in paperback.  I was going on a cruise and wanted something light to read.  I had heard an interview with Rowling on Fresh Air and the story sounded good.  I started it in the line to get on the ship and finished it before we departed port.  I kept telling my wife that she should read it and that she would love it.  She kept saying 'but it's a childrens book'.  She finally read it about a month later and loved it so much that she eventually went to all of the release parties at Barnes and Noble dressed up as one of the adult characters and even won one of the costume contests.  I created a monster.  Although funtime with Tonks was awesome!


So what your saying is the witch chose the wand this time?
 
2013-09-12 01:52:13 PM
 
2013-09-12 01:52:41 PM
Sounds like they probably were gonna make a movie anyway, and JK Rowling wanted to write it herself. That's not a cash grab except by the studio, on her part it sounds like she cares.
 
2013-09-12 01:53:15 PM

Mike Chewbacca: stupiddream: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

CSB: I read 1 when it 1st came out in paperback.  I was going on a cruise and wanted something light to read.  I had heard an interview with Rowling on Fresh Air and the story sounded good.  I started it in the line to get on the ship and finished it before we departed port.  I kept telling my wife that she should read it and that she would love it.  She kept saying 'but it's a childrens book'.  She finally read it about a month later and loved it so much that she eventually went to all of the release parties at Barnes and Noble dressed up as one of the adult characters and even won one of the costume contests.  I created a monster.  Although funtime with Tonks was awesome!

accio wand! ENGORGIO!


Which reminds me of my favorite Fark harry-potter headline

"
Guy at Harry Potter Movie: "Engorgio. Spankus monkius." Police: "ARRESTO""

I don't know why it amuses me so, but it does.
 
2013-09-12 01:53:38 PM

FrancoFile: They produce added value, they don't reduce the value of the original work, and they are used for scholarly and critical purposes. Completely within what copyright law *should* be. Porn parodies are legal, but indices and study guides aren't? That's farked up.


What added value do they have except to lazy students who don't want to read the source material?
 
2013-09-12 01:55:44 PM
I love all the people who biatch on Fark when someone is successful.  I can only imagine its because they have never come up with a creative idea of their own and then worked their ass off to make it a success.  Hipster Socialists are all fine with the "everything should be free" creed until someone walks into their house, kicks them in their ken-doll like nutsack and takes their ironic man-grooming shears and vintage Ant-Man lunchbox.

JK Rowling came up with a tremendously inventive idea, wrote it beautifully, and marketed it shrewdly.  She can profit off it for as long as - and for as much as - she wants.  Ditto for George Lucas.  If it were that easy to have such a monster success, it wouldn't be a once in a generational thing.
 
2013-09-12 01:58:52 PM

give me doughnuts: FrancoFile: They produce added value, they don't reduce the value of the original work, and they are used for scholarly and critical purposes. Completely within what copyright law *should* be. Porn parodies are legal, but indices and study guides aren't? That's farked up.

What added value do they have except to lazy students who don't want to read the source material?


Critical analysis.

If you cheat by reading the cliff notes instead of the book, that's between you and the school.  Copyright law has nothing to do with that.
 
2013-09-12 01:58:55 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Mike Chewbacca: Jim from Saint Paul: Until she puts out a sub-par book/movie, she gets my confidence.

/wasn't a really big fan till Azkaban
//first 2 books were "meh"

I recently reread 1, and it was much better than I remembered, and significantly better than the movie.

I much prefer the movie 1, can watch or read 2 and prefer the books (especially 5) over the movies (which are still AWESOME).

5 is my favorite of the books, which makes me a weirdo because everyone else thinks it needs serious editing. But the libertarian in me freaking LOVES how the school revolts against Umbridge in the book, which is completely missing from the movie. They basically cut out my favorite part, so I was actually disappointed by the movie a bit. Oh, and I love that Harry finally becomes proactive rather than reactive (at Hermione's insistence).

/libertarian leftish-ist


I enjoy how you get a MUCH better insight into Neville and why he might be the way he is.

"Weasly is our King" is a neat subplot.

Also, my favorite exchange in the entire bookseries happens in that book. Harry has been kind of a dick to everyone around him and his firends are getting tired of it. He also thinks that Voldermort may be possesing his body so that makes him even more snarky and rude to everyone around him. Then this:

'How're you feeling?' asked Hermione.

    'Fine,' said Harry stiffly.    'Oh, don't lie, Harry,' she said impatiently. 'Ron and Ginny say you've been hiding from everyone since you got back from St Mungo's.'    They do, do they?' said Harry, glaring at Ron and Ginny. Ron looked down at his feet but Ginny seemed quite unabashed.    'Well, you have!' she said. 'And you won't look at any of us!'    'It's you lot who won't look at me!' said Harry angrily.    'Maybe you're taking it in turns to look, and keep missing each other,' suggested Hermione, the corners of her mouth twitching.    'Very funny,' snapped Harry, turning away.    'Oh, stop feeling all misunderstood,' said Hermione sharply. 'Look, the others have told me what you overheard last night on the Extendable Ears - '    'Yeah?' growled Harry, his hands deep in his pockets as he watched the snow now falling thickly outside. 'All been talking about me, have you? Well, I'm getting used to it.'    'We wanted to talk to you, Harry' said Ginny, 'but as you've been hiding ever since we got back - '    'I didn't want anyone to talk to me,' said Harry, who was feeling more and more nettled.    'Well, that was a bit stupid of you,' said Ginny angrily, 'seeing as you don't know anyone but me who's been possessed by You-Know-Who, and I can tell you how it feels.'    Harry remained quite still as the impact of these words hit him. Then he wheeled round.    'I forgot,' he said.    'Lucky you,' said Ginny coolly
."OHSNAP.jpeg
 
2013-09-12 02:00:31 PM
Let's try that formatting again:

'How're you feeling?' asked Hermione.

'Fine,' said Harry stiffly.

'Oh, don't lie, Harry,' she said impatiently. 'Ron and Ginny say you've been hiding from everyone since you got back from St Mungo's.'

They do, do they?' said Harry, glaring at Ron and Ginny. Ron looked down at his feet but Ginny seemed quite unabashed.

'Well, you have!' she said. 'And you won't look at any of us!'

'It's you lot who won't look at me!' said Harry angrily.

'Maybe you're taking it in turns to look, and keep missing each other,' suggested Hermione, the corners of her mouth twitching.

'Very funny,' snapped Harry, turning away.

'Oh, stop feeling all misunderstood,' said Hermione sharply. 'Look, the others have told me what you overheard last night on the Extendable Ears - '

'Yeah?' growled Harry, his hands deep in his pockets as he watched the snow now falling thickly outside. 'All been talking about me, have you? Well, I'm getting used to it.'

'We wanted to talk to you, Harry' said Ginny, 'but as you've been hiding ever since we got back - '

'I didn't want anyone to talk to me,' said Harry, who was feeling more and more nettled.

'Well, that was a bit stupid of you,' said Ginny angrily, 'seeing as you don't know anyone but me who's been possessed by You-Know-Who, and I can tell you how it feels.'

Harry remained quite still as the impact of these words hit him. Then he wheeled round.

'I forgot,' he said.

'Lucky you,' said Ginny coolly.


ohSNAP.jpeg
 
2013-09-12 02:00:48 PM
Please let this be an offshoot where we follow Neville around during the events in the books.  We get to see Neville work all the girls in the class while keeping it a secret and maintaining his dorkish rep.  We can call it Harry's Shadow.
 
2013-09-12 02:04:30 PM

Fubini: I gotta say, there's nothing wrong with a good author producing good fiction and getting paid for it. I'm sorry that subby feels like making money is a bad thing.

Also, it'll at least be no worse than the other dreck they call films these days. It's not another Michael Bay film.

//They should let Michael Bay direct a Harry Potter film


you know how I know you're an expert on films? you trashed Michael Bay.
 
2013-09-12 02:05:37 PM
Mike Chewbacca:  Tonks!

accio wand! ENGORGIO!


The Tonks full frontal in Game of Thrones is nice.
 
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