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(The Raw Story)   On one end you have the religious Tim Tebow, and on the other you have a star running back who tells his daughter to look at all religions, incl. Flying Spaghetti Monster   (rawstory.com) divider line 49
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2013-09-12 12:21:14 PM  
"I will never tell her what to believe in. I know parents are very influential on kids' spiritual beliefs and that can be a positive or negative thing. I can give her a basic understanding of religions when she starts showing interest and asking questions. But I will remain silent otherwise."

I love my Texans.
 
2013-09-12 12:29:17 PM  
media.screened.com
 
2013-09-12 01:36:23 PM  
Ramen.
 
2013-09-12 01:42:56 PM  
That is a very level headed and reasonable statement. I am quite impressed.
 
2013-09-12 01:46:24 PM  
And once his daughter becomes a teenager, he'll warn her about being touched by someone's noodly appendage.
 
2013-09-12 01:46:41 PM  
More human beings like this, please.
 
2013-09-12 01:46:51 PM  
Foster and Tebow are both SEC guys
 
2013-09-12 01:50:37 PM  
Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.
 
2013-09-12 01:52:29 PM  

Shame Us: Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.


Prob was just voting with his bong.
 
2013-09-12 01:53:14 PM  
Wow, people have different opinions on religion? AMAZING
 
2013-09-12 01:55:36 PM  

IAmRight: Wow, people have different opinions on religion? AMAZING


The amazing part is that he recognizes that telling a 4-year-old about the parents' religion isn't letting them choose, it's telling them what to believe.  A 4-year-old can't yet compare different beliefs to decide what makes the most sense.  So he's not telling her that any one religion is right (yet).  That's fantastic.  Too many parents, IMO, force-feed their own religious beliefs to their kids before their kids can make their own informed decisions.
 
2013-09-12 01:58:21 PM  
That was interesting and heck of a lot less tedious than The Life of Pi.
 
2013-09-12 01:59:46 PM  

scottydoesntknow: "I will never tell her what to believe in. I know parents are very influential on kids' spiritual beliefs and that can be a positive or negative thing. I can give her a basic understanding of religions when she starts showing interest and asking questions. But I will remain silent otherwise."

I love my Texans.


That is exactly the type of openmindedness and tolerance that comes to mind when you think of Texas.  *snickers.
 
2013-09-12 02:02:20 PM  

elguerodiablo: scottydoesntknow: "I will never tell her what to believe in. I know parents are very influential on kids' spiritual beliefs and that can be a positive or negative thing. I can give her a basic understanding of religions when she starts showing interest and asking questions. But I will remain silent otherwise."

I love my Texans.

That is exactly the type of openmindedness and tolerance that comes to mind when you think of Texas.  *snickers.


He's from San Diego originally...went to Mission Bay High School.  From what I know of other former Mission Bay football players, there was probably a lot of consultation with the "burning bush" in his youth.

/props to him, from a Chargers fan
 
2013-09-12 02:02:31 PM  
Wait, a guy who was a philosophy major is teaching his kids to be open-minded? Inconceivable.
 
2013-09-12 02:03:28 PM  
Parenting. This guy is doing it right.
 
2013-09-12 02:07:16 PM  
May His Noodly Appendages preserve you.
 
2013-09-12 02:10:45 PM  

elguerodiablo: scottydoesntknow: "I will never tell her what to believe in. I know parents are very influential on kids' spiritual beliefs and that can be a positive or negative thing. I can give her a basic understanding of religions when she starts showing interest and asking questions. But I will remain silent otherwise."

I love my Texans.

That is exactly the type of openmindedness and tolerance that comes to mind when you think of Texas.  *snickers.


I find it funny you're commenting on the open-mindedness of Texans while remaining close-minded on your own thoughts of Texans.
 
2013-09-12 02:17:21 PM  
I didn't know anything about this guy until now.  He sounds intelligent and reasonable.  I like him.
 
2013-09-12 02:20:38 PM  
HERO tag on vacation?
 
2013-09-12 02:20:46 PM  
Always thought Foster was a cool cat. I couldn't care less what his actual views on religion are, but any professional athlete who is not only intelligent but also willing to express himself beyond BS cliches is fine by me. Even if I disagree with them; it's 1,000 times better than listening to how they've had an excellent week of practice or how they can only prepare one week at a time for the umpteenth million occasion.
 
2013-09-12 02:30:25 PM  

Shame Us: Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.


Relax, he's libertarian.  Not like he is straight Rush Limbaugh.
 
2013-09-12 02:35:02 PM  
Arian race trifecta in play?
 
2013-09-12 02:37:11 PM  

Killer Cars: Always thought Foster was a cool cat. I couldn't care less what his actual views on religion are, but any professional athlete who is not only intelligent but also willing to express himself beyond BS cliches is fine by me. Even if I disagree with them; it's 1,000 times better than listening to how they've had an excellent week of practice or how they can only prepare one week at a time for the umpteenth million occasion.


I literally thought Foster's smash-mouth philosophical statement gave 110%.  He's like a little kid out there, not enforcing any dogma, showing his theological defense can bend but not break.  He just wanted the speech more than other parents, and gave it with deceptive quickness.  A real throwback, giving the speech the right way.  Sure, nearly all children practice their parents' religion at least until adulthood, which implies that their affiliation is more a matter of happenstance than any conscious, rational choice, but anything can happen on Sunday, maybe he'll take a knee, and that's why they pray the games.  He had a game plan, and he executed.  That kid's gonna feel that one on Monday, but there's no quit in him.
 
2013-09-12 02:38:32 PM  

brap: That was interesting and heck of a lot less tedious than The Life of Pi.


You know, I was kind of irritated at the end of that movie.
 
2013-09-12 02:38:44 PM  

Shame Us: Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.


Hey, nobody's perfect.
 
2013-09-12 02:39:25 PM  

chimp_ninja: Killer Cars: Always thought Foster was a cool cat. I couldn't care less what his actual views on religion are, but any professional athlete who is not only intelligent but also willing to express himself beyond BS cliches is fine by me. Even if I disagree with them; it's 1,000 times better than listening to how they've had an excellent week of practice or how they can only prepare one week at a time for the umpteenth million occasion.

I literally thought Foster's smash-mouth philosophical statement gave 110%.  He's like a little kid out there, not enforcing any dogma, showing his theological defense can bend but not break.  He just wanted the speech more than other parents, and gave it with deceptive quicknessA real throwback, giving the speech the right way.  Sure, nearly all children practice their parents' religion at least until adulthood, which implies that their affiliation is more a matter of happenstance than any conscious, rational choice, but anything can happen on Sunday, maybe he'll take a knee, and that's why they pray the gamesHe had a game plan, and he executed.  That kid's gonna feel that one on Monday, but there's no quit in him.



/How'd I do?
 
2013-09-12 02:42:56 PM  

chimp_ninja: Killer Cars: Always thought Foster was a cool cat. I couldn't care less what his actual views on religion are, but any professional athlete who is not only intelligent but also willing to express himself beyond BS cliches is fine by me. Even if I disagree with them; it's 1,000 times better than listening to how they've had an excellent week of practice or how they can only prepare one week at a time for the umpteenth million occasion.

I literally thought Foster's smash-mouth philosophical statement gave 110%.  He's like a little kid out there, not enforcing any dogma, showing his theological defense can bend but not break.  He just wanted the speech more than other parents, and gave it with deceptive quickness.  A real throwback, giving the speech the right way.  Sure, nearly all children practice their parents' religion at least until adulthood, which implies that their affiliation is more a matter of happenstance than any conscious, rational choice, but anything can happen on Sunday, maybe he'll take a knee, and that's why they pray the games.  He had a game plan, and he executed.  That kid's gonna feel that one on Monday, but there's no quit in him.


Beautiful.
 
2013-09-12 02:50:55 PM  
I really like Foster.

Now if he can pick up the production this week...
 
2013-09-12 02:52:27 PM  
Thanks for abbreviating "including" in the headline subby. It saved me a ton of time.
 
2013-09-12 02:52:53 PM  
I strongly recommend clicking through and reading Foster's column in full.  It is awesome.
 
2013-09-12 02:55:15 PM  

Dafatone: I really like Foster.

Now if he can pick up the production this week...


It seems like he and Tate are going to be splitting it 50/50. By the end of last season, a lot of the defenses had figured out how Foster runs and were able to counter it pretty effectively. Tate is a whole different beast though, and by switching them in-and-out it will mess with the defenses.
 
2013-09-12 03:05:01 PM  
And? fark conventional religion.
 
2013-09-12 03:28:01 PM  
How can I make a young mind believe this is the truth for them when they don't yet have the capacity nor the cognitive desire to delve into something like this?

Wow, those are some pretty big words for a football player.
 
2013-09-12 03:47:26 PM  

Dafatone: I really like Foster.

Now if he can pick up the production this week...


Yeah seriously Foster god damn Matt Forte had a better game than you did last week. MATT farkING FORTE!
 
2013-09-12 03:48:16 PM  
"How can I make a young mind believe this is the truth for them when they don't yet have the capacity nor the cognitive desire to delve into something like this?" Foster asked. "If she shows interest I would advise her to fully investigate a religion and see if it fits her. And if she chooses none of the above, I'll be fine with that as well."
"The values I instill in her should guide her to her decision. What's most important, I believe, is to support her decision no matter what."



My goodness- an actual reasonable person who understands the inherent ridiculousness of indoctrinating a being who has NO ABILITY to understand what they're being forced to accept. I have the utmost respect for folks who come to some kind of religious/spiritual awakening ON THEIR OWN as adults. It is my contention that 99% of people who identify as "religious" were taught to be that way. There is a vast chasm between coming to some revelatory understanding of faith as an adult and being taught it by those who mean the most to you- i.e your parents.
 
2013-09-12 04:08:47 PM  
As an atheist, I'm hoping the FSM meme finally dies, as the whole original point of it has gone past. But internet atheists tend to drag things on too long, so I'm not holding hope
 
2013-09-12 04:10:51 PM  

Shame Us: Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.


You missed the real reason for this publicity stunt:

Wikipedia: Foster will also be appearing in the upcoming movie Draft Day starring Kevin Costner, Jennifer Garner, and Denis Leary.
 
2013-09-12 04:13:14 PM  

machoprogrammer: As an atheist, I'm hoping the FSM meme finally dies, as the whole original point of it has gone past. But internet atheists tend to drag things on too long, so I'm not holding hope


yep
 
2013-09-12 04:47:14 PM  

AdamK: machoprogrammer: As an atheist, I'm hoping the FSM meme finally dies, as the whole original point of it has gone past. But internet atheists tend to drag things on too long, so I'm not holding hope

yep


What's worst is when people somehow only come across it for the first time now.
 
2013-09-12 04:53:01 PM  

Dafatone: AdamK: machoprogrammer: As an atheist, I'm hoping the FSM meme finally dies, as the whole original point of it has gone past. But internet atheists tend to drag things on too long, so I'm not holding hope

yep

What's worst is when people somehow only come across it for the first time now.


My twelve-year-old recently told me about it, but she kind of garbled the message.  She called it "Flying Pasta Monster" and I think had the impression that people took it seriously.  (I told her "I'm pretty sure it's spaghetti," conceding that "pasta" was used in the name of the faith itself; why they chose that particular nomenclature is what they call a mystery of faith.)
 
2013-09-12 04:58:04 PM  
Never thought I'd own a Texans jersey, but I'll buy his. Hope he stays for a while, I hate it when the guy whose jersey I just bought switches teams the next season.
 
2013-09-12 05:00:17 PM  

Arachnophobe: Never thought I'd own a Texans jersey, but I'll buy his. Hope he stays for a while, I hate it when the guy whose jersey I just bought switches teams the next season.


He's already down to half-time.

/hopefully he plays well this week since my opponent has Ben Tate
 
2013-09-12 05:30:41 PM  

AiryAnne: Shame Us: Wikipedia: "Foster revealed his political affiliation during an NFL game, stating he is "in the Green Party", and voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 Presidential election. Ron Paul actually ran for the Republican Party nomination in 2012."

Damn. Had some hope.

You missed the real reason for this publicity stunt:

Wikipedia: Foster will also be appearing in the upcoming movie Draft Day starring Kevin Costner, Jennifer Garner, and Denis Leary.


...as a minor role in a single scene.  They have him playing another college player on the first day of the draft.  That, and the Houston media has known about this and has been gushing about it since training camp.
 
2013-09-12 05:50:12 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-12 06:50:40 PM  
Damn, I like his moxie. More power to him and his daughter, and one can only hope she ends up a reasonably well-balanced and productive member of society, regardless of whatever sky pilot she ends up worshipping.
 
2013-09-12 06:57:43 PM  

darch: "How can I make a young mind believe this is the truth for them when they don't yet have the capacity nor the cognitive desire to delve into something like this?" Foster asked. "If she shows interest I would advise her to fully investigate a religion and see if it fits her. And if she chooses none of the above, I'll be fine with that as well."
"The values I instill in her should guide her to her decision. What's most important, I believe, is to support her decision no matter what."


My goodness- an actual reasonable person who understands the inherent ridiculousness of indoctrinating a being who has NO ABILITY to understand what they're being forced to accept. I have the utmost respect for folks who come to some kind of religious/spiritual awakening ON THEIR OWN as adults. It is my contention that 99% of people who identify as "religious" were taught to be that way. There is a vast chasm between coming to some revelatory understanding of faith as an adult and being taught it by those who mean the most to you- i.e your parents.


I went through my youth attending a United Methodist church, abandoned religion by high school, and am now in a state of believing in God, but not having one whit of trust in *any* organized religion (who are they to tell *me* how to believe and when, where, and how to pray?). Arian Foster seems to have come to same sort of realization that I have, that it matters not *how* you pray to whatever Sky Pilot you pray to, only that it is *your* choice to pray, or not to pray, and how you choose to pray and who you pray to is up to you, and no one else.
 
2013-09-12 07:36:35 PM  

bulldg4life: That is a very level headed and reasonable statement. I am quite impressed.


I talk shiat about his college production (his inability to get yards or hold onto the football cost us the game against Cal where we forced, I believe, 4 picks in the first half), but he was a philosophy major. I have a sneaking suspicion that he's significantly more intelligent than he lets on.
 
2013-09-13 08:43:03 AM  

ClavellBCMI: darch: "How can I make a young mind believe this is the truth for them when they don't yet have the capacity nor the cognitive desire to delve into something like this?" Foster asked. "If she shows interest I would advise her to fully investigate a religion and see if it fits her. And if she chooses none of the above, I'll be fine with that as well."
"The values I instill in her should guide her to her decision. What's most important, I believe, is to support her decision no matter what."


My goodness- an actual reasonable person who understands the inherent ridiculousness of indoctrinating a being who has NO ABILITY to understand what they're being forced to accept. I have the utmost respect for folks who come to some kind of religious/spiritual awakening ON THEIR OWN as adults. It is my contention that 99% of people who identify as "religious" were taught to be that way. There is a vast chasm between coming to some revelatory understanding of faith as an adult and being taught it by those who mean the most to you- i.e your parents.

I went through my youth attending a United Methodist church, abandoned religion by high school, and am now in a state of believing in God, but not having one whit of trust in *any* organized religion (who are they to tell *me* how to believe and when, where, and how to pray?). Arian Foster seems to have come to same sort of realization that I have, that it matters not *how* you pray to whatever Sky Pilot you pray to, only that it is *your* choice to pray, or not to pray, and how you choose to pray and who you pray to is up to you, and no one else.


Cheers to you, friend.
 
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