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(American Thinker)   Why Millennials won't become greedy, angry, bigoted people who yearn for the way America used to be   (americanthinker.com ) divider line
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2013-09-12 09:49:41 AM  
4 votes:
I consider myself more Gen Y than Millennial, since I can barely remember life without computers at home and the internet. That means I was also old enough to have some idea of what was going on politically after 9/11, and while I supported it at the time, came to see what a disasterous decade of Republican rule the oughties were after a good few years. The GOP and neoconservatives took full cynical advantage of how farked in the head this country was after 9/11 and used it to take this country to the precipice of fascism, they took us the full way to disaster when it came to starting the war in Iraq and their stewardship of the economy.

I may not always pull the lever for a Democrat when I vote, but I will never vote for a Republican for the rest of my life unless they fundamentally reevaluate their economic platform and throw out their hateful base of ignorant backwoods Bible bumpkins. The opposite is actually occurring.
2013-09-12 09:37:20 AM  
4 votes:
The greatest generation was the one that founded our nation and wondered if we could keep its republic, and there has been a consistent, but accelerating, degeneration ever since.

This is the conservative view of history in a nutshell.  Everything is gradually going to shiat as compared to some idealized point in the past (that never really existed), and so everything they do is a desperate rearguard action to go back to that imaginary past, or failing that, at least keep the status quo.

The progressive view is the complete opposite.  History is a series of steps towards greater human equality and standard of living.  The Enlightenment, abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, the Civil Rights movement, marriage equality, all being seen as steps on this path.

Both views are oversimplification, but obviously I feel that the progressive view is a closer representation of reality.
2013-09-12 09:38:56 AM  
3 votes:
If we want to see matters clearly, however, we must define them differently: in absolute terms.

And this is why conservatives will continue to lose ground in national elections. You do not have the ability to define things in absolute terms and when you try, you are essentially saying "fark you" to everyone who does not agree with your absolutes. Absolutes result in extremism and radicalism. Government needs pragmatism. Conservatives who define their positions in terms of absolutes can all DIAF.
2013-09-12 09:20:21 AM  
3 votes:
"Consider that while a conservative in 1952 America was staunchly anti-communist, a conservative in the Soviet Union at the time was a communist. And "conservatives" in Western Europe are often our liberals' ideological soulmates. This isn't for lack of truth in political advertising. Rather, it's because the only consistent definition of "conservative" is "a desire to maintain the status quo" while "liberal's" only consistent definition involves a desire to change it. This means "conservatism" is always changing: tomorrow's version will reflect today's liberalism's success in altering the status quo. Conservatism is the caboose to liberalism's locomotive."

Hey, American Thinker writer, that's actually a pretty reasonable definition of conservative (that's actually a pretty piss poor definition of liberal if you're trying to create a universal one, but, whatever). And by that definition, most self-described moderates and many self-describes liberals are, in fact, conservatives because they want to maintain the status quo, aka the New Deal state. And very, very few self-described "conservatives" are. Rather, they are mostly radical reactionaries who want to create a system in the United States radically different than anything that has ever existed. Of course, you won't see that because thinking is not a major prerequisite for writing on American Thinker.
2013-09-12 01:06:25 PM  
2 votes:

Zeno-25: I consider myself more Gen Y than Millennial, since I can barely remember life without computers at home and the internet. That means I was also old enough to have some idea of what was going on politically after 9/11, and while I supported it at the time, came to see what a disasterous decade of Republican rule the oughties were after a good few years. The GOP and neoconservatives took full cynical advantage of how farked in the head this country was after 9/11 and used it to take this country to the precipice of fascism, they took us the full way to disaster when it came to starting the war in Iraq and their stewardship of the economy.

I may not always pull the lever for a Democrat when I vote, but I will never vote for a Republican for the rest of my life unless they fundamentally reevaluate their economic platform and throw out their hateful base of ignorant backwoods Bible bumpkins. The opposite is actually occurring.


I'm probably right on the line between Gen Y and ME, but I can tell you this: The reason MEs will  never vote Republican is because  we do not believe other people are lesser. Sure, they might throw out 'fa**ot' and the n-word like candy online, but when the chips are down? Fark that shiat. Everyone's a human being.
2013-09-12 09:20:00 AM  
2 votes:
I love how these articles start out - shows a little intelligence then turns to full pants-on-the-head crazy.

"social liberalism means loose sexual mores. Loose sexual mores mean a high rate of single motherhood (today it's 42 percent... and rising). And what does this mean? Since the modern West won't let these women twist in the wind, the government will step into the breach and play daddy with handouts and/or mommy with tax-funded daycare."


I know.  That totally sucks that we can't let those promiscuous single mothers "twist in the wind."  They should be punished for their promiscuity I tell you!!


/Oh, and that quote was from the part *before* it got crazy.
2013-09-12 11:07:10 AM  
1 vote:
The greatest generation was the one that founded our nation and wondered if we could "keep" its republic, and there has been a consistent, but accelerating, degeneration ever since.

That's what we call failing. When a grand idea does not survive implementation and starts crumbling from the day it was put in place, that is a failed idea.

Or perhaps you have a very distorted view of what the founders were about.
2013-09-12 10:18:33 AM  
1 vote:

Serious Black: johnnieconnie: At first I thought that he was going to make a potentially reasonable argument that the younger generation was no longer going to forgive the politicians for their idiot statements, like anti-gay, or anti-minority, and vote for them anyway (like Log Cabin Republicans). However, it soon became clear that his point was that the younger generations have descended into hedonistic, sinning hell, and are in danger of being lost forever for embracing single motherhood (instead of having evil abortions, amiright?), teh ghey, and miscegenation, etc.

If Republicans really want to stop abortion, they can do one of two things:

1) Lower the cost (to zero for some people) of long-lasting birth control like IUDs that have been proven to dramatically reduce the rate of unintended pregnancies and abortions.
2) Raise the pay of people in poverty since richer people have been proven to have dramatically reduced rates of unintended pregnancies and abortions, almost certainly because they can afford long-lasting birth control like IUDs.


They would also support sex education in public schools (not abstinence-only education) which has been proven effective at lowering teen pregnancy rates.

Of course, Republicans won't do any of these things that are actually effective at reducing the number of abortions.  Because they don't really give a shiat about "the sanctity of life" of an embryo.  What matters is punishing women for having sex.
2013-09-12 10:03:26 AM  
1 vote:
An entire article complaining about people who choose to live their lives differently from the typical member of the Party of Small Government, using those choices to argue that liberty and freedom are dangerous when enjoyed by those other people.

Proto-fascism, par for the course for the current GOP.
2013-09-12 09:52:19 AM  
1 vote:
That was probably the best sales pitch for contempt, fear, and moral superiority that I have read in awhile.

Considering the audience it was meant for, I would have to give it a 9/10.
2013-09-12 09:43:17 AM  
1 vote:
Is it a coincidence that every group orthodox Christians label immoral -- those involved in "alternative" sexual deathstyles, criminally inclined inner-city dwellers, effete college professors, grunge-type youths scarred with multiple tattoos and body piercings -- vote left? "What fellowship hath light with darkness?" The darkness hates the light. When people have sins they yearn to rationalize away, the last thing they'll do is support leaders who would uphold, even just through word, a moral standard condemning their passions.

Wow.
2013-09-12 09:30:14 AM  
1 vote:
Ah yes, the tried and true conservative method of appealing to various groups... insulting them.
2013-09-12 09:24:19 AM  
1 vote:
You know I actually read (skimmed) much of that article, and it was, actually, not as stupid as I had expected. It was actually fairly logical and made a lot of sense, if you accept his assumptions. Unfortunately, to accept his assumptions, you would have to either be a lunatic or a time traveler from the 18th c.
2013-09-12 09:21:44 AM  
1 vote:
Nonetheless, cynicism is not traditionalism; in fact,it is a form of naiveté. Believing all people act out of selfish motives, the cynic instinctively paints everyone with the same brush.

Is that why conservatives are always telling me tales about Welfare Queens and Godless Communist Liberals?
 
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