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(Daily Mail)   Mother refused to let her five-year-old son see his father for a year because: A) he hit him, B) he let him watch porn, C) he might feed the boy meat   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 109
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2013-09-12 12:03:05 AM
You don't win child custody with salad
 
2013-09-12 12:05:34 AM
I'm sorry, I can't get over that awesome picture of Lord Justice Underhill.

Klippoklondike: You don't win child custody with salad


It's just a little custody battle! It's still good! It's still good!
 
2013-09-12 12:11:40 AM
Feed him meat or toss his salad?
 
2013-09-12 12:12:13 AM
You don't force exclusionary diets on five year olds unless there is a medically necessary reason.  If the father isn't vegetarian he has every right to serve meat when his son is in his care, and I suppose the mother has the right to serve him vegetarian fare when he is in hers as long as it isn't resulting in health concerns for the kid.
 
2013-09-12 12:35:55 AM
She'd better not be giving him pudding. How can he have any pudding if he doesn't eat his meat!?
 
2013-09-12 12:37:45 AM
Disgusting. Just completely disgusting.
 
2013-09-12 12:41:36 AM
www.famousfoto.com
 
2013-09-12 01:12:44 AM

Klippoklondike: You don't win child custody with salad


I would like to nominate the above as the Fark Post of the YearTM
 
2013-09-12 01:13:42 AM
D) All of the above.  (He hit him with meat porn)
 
2013-09-12 01:21:09 AM
You know who invented salad? Poor people....
 
2013-09-12 01:32:52 AM
In August, a family judge in Bristol ordered a strict regime of contact between father and son - including overnight and weekend visits - and told the mother a residence order would be made in the father's favour if she put a foot out of line.

So... what? That was just a hollow threat?

The mother [...] had been refusing to engage in the court process and the father  had not seen his son for more than  a year.

She "refused to engage" in the court process but still maintained custody?   WTF?
 
2013-09-12 02:09:47 AM
I'd like to take this opportunity to point out how awesome the mother of my nephew is.  She's a vegetarian, my neph is a carnivore, and his little brother (I consider him a neph but technically no blood relation) wants to follow in his mothers footsteps.  She wouldn't have a bar of it.  Her philosophy is that she's a vegetarian for moral reasons, but until her son (9 years old now) is old enough to fully appreciate and debate the topic, he's going to get fed a proper omnivorous diet.  She's cooked meat for him every day even though she can't stand the smell of the stuff now.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do it.
 
2013-09-12 02:46:29 AM
After his mom tries to feed him rabbit food again:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-12 02:47:38 AM

TuteTibiImperes: You don't force exclusionary diets on five year olds unless there is a medically necessary reason.  If the father isn't vegetarian he has every right to serve meat when his son is in his care, and I suppose the mother has the right to serve him vegetarian fare when he is in hers as long as it isn't resulting in health concerns for the kid.


What the hell are you doing in a Fark thread saying crap like this?  Is this some new variety of inverse-trolling where you post something reasonable just to see how many people will flip out?
 
2013-09-12 02:48:21 AM

Croooow!: D) All of the above.  (He hit him with meat porn)


i.imgur.com
 
2013-09-12 02:48:56 AM
That child is going to grow up very, very stunted if not incredibly ill. There have been repeat cases of children being permanently damaged by psycho parents enforcing this kind of diet. Growing bodies need protein and dairy to properly assemble themselves. They are growing muscle and bone, if you don't give them the raw materials you are harming your kid.

Piscetarian? Fine, I'll go with it. No red meat? Okay, sure, some religions do that, no harm have some fowl. No pork? Okay. No meat at all?! Insanity.

Do whatever you want to your body but if you force choices on someone else's body you're a nutter.

/hope the kid's dad introduces him to the wonder of proper protein
//hell make it organic free range protein just to be a dick about it
 
2013-09-12 02:50:31 AM
Mwelp, no more Daily Fail links for me.
 
2013-09-12 02:54:53 AM
ugh i had a friends wife try to take away visitation rights from her husband because he was not following some ridiculous anti ADD diet that has been unproven for like 40 years.

the judge literally chuckled as he read the stuff.
 
2013-09-12 02:57:33 AM
If she's still breastfeeding the boy, I'm not going to argue with her. There's no need for a kid to eat meat if he can consume breast milk. It contains all the nutrients babies need.
 
2013-09-12 02:58:32 AM
"The little girl saw her dad coming out of the shower and said "dad, when do I get a penis like that?" The dad replied "As soon as mommy goes to work." - George Carlin. "Feed him meat" goes both ways.
 
2013-09-12 03:05:00 AM
"The mother's barrister, Byron James, argued on appeal that the reintroduction of so much contact after such a long break was 'too sudden and too steep a progression' and was likely to cause both the boy and his mother emotional harm."

Fark you lady. You didn't consider the emotional impact when you cut off all contact did you?
 
2013-09-12 03:05:51 AM

Ringshadow: That child is going to grow up very, very stunted if not incredibly ill. There have been repeat cases of children being permanently damaged by psycho parents enforcing this kind of diet. Growing bodies need protein and dairy to properly assemble themselves. They are growing muscle and bone, if you don't give them the raw materials you are harming your kid.

Piscetarian? Fine, I'll go with it. No red meat? Okay, sure, some religions do that, no harm have some fowl. No pork? Okay. No meat at all?! Insanity.

Do whatever you want to your body but if you force choices on someone else's body you're a nutter.

/hope the kid's dad introduces him to the wonder of proper protein
//hell make it organic free range protein just to be a dick about it



Sources on these repeated cases of permanently damaged children?

Yes, growing kids need protein, fats, carbohydrates, etc.  Let's not get silly though.  You don't quite understand nutrition if you honestly believe a child can't grow up healthy without the aid of animal proteins.  Just because some nutters do it wrong (if they actually do--or are you arguing on a personal inkling you don't expect to be called out on?) doesn't mean it's unquestionably impossible.
 
2013-09-12 03:14:53 AM

doglover: She'd better not be giving him pudding. How can he have any pudding if he doesn't eat his meat!?


(Shakes tiny fist of anger at Doglover) Damn you, damn you to Hell. It was the first thi... Oh well great minds think alike. =)
 
2013-09-12 03:24:38 AM

BonesJackson: Sources on these repeated cases of permanently damaged children?

Yes, growing kids need protein, fats, carbohydrates, etc.  Let's not get silly though.  You don't quite understand nutrition if you honestly believe a child can't grow up healthy without the aid of animal proteins.  Just because some nutters do it wrong (if they actually do--or are you arguing on a personal inkling you don't expect to be called out on?) doesn't mean it's unquestionably impossible.


All due respect but this woman is clearly off her rocker, and there's no reason to put a kid on this level of diet unless there are actual medical issues involved, IN WHICH CASE it would have been brought before the court.

No great sources either way, but here's What's the Harm, with a list of dead/injured kids due to dietary whackery

From there, here's a news story.

The Parkers were vegan, a common but less-than-household term that sounds distinctly extraterrestrial, possibly because the star Vega has spawned numerous science-fiction aliens that bore the name Vegan. From a dietary perspective, vegans are vegetarians who shun not only meat but animal products like gelatin, eggs, cheese and milk.
...
Kimu Parker's trial ended April 9: The jury took 95 minutes to convict her of three counts of child abuse. She faces a mandatory prison term of 30 to 51 years at her sentencing, scheduled for June 13.
And jury members hadn't even been told about Lily.
She was the Parkers' second daughter. She died at 3 after a series of seizures in 2001, three months before Zion was born.

/there is no reason not to feed your kids lean meat
 
2013-09-12 03:27:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: If she's still breastfeeding the boy, I'm not going to argue with her. There's no need for a kid to eat meat if he can consume breast milk. It contains all the nutrients babies need.


Aww Jesus.  You didn't even bait a hook; you're dragging your dick in the water.
 
2013-09-12 03:31:20 AM

Ringshadow: BonesJackson: Sources on these repeated cases of permanently damaged children?

Yes, growing kids need protein, fats, carbohydrates, etc.  Let's not get silly though.  You don't quite understand nutrition if you honestly believe a child can't grow up healthy without the aid of animal proteins.  Just because some nutters do it wrong (if they actually do--or are you arguing on a personal inkling you don't expect to be called out on?) doesn't mean it's unquestionably impossible.

All due respect but this woman is clearly off her rocker, and there's no reason to put a kid on this level of diet unless there are actual medical issues involved, IN WHICH CASE it would have been brought before the court.

No great sources either way, but here's What's the Harm, with a list of dead/injured kids due to dietary whackery

From there, here's a news story.

The Parkers were vegan, a common but less-than-household term that sounds distinctly extraterrestrial, possibly because the star Vega has spawned numerous science-fiction aliens that bore the name Vegan. From a dietary perspective, vegans are vegetarians who shun not only meat but animal products like gelatin, eggs, cheese and milk.
...
Kimu Parker's trial ended April 9: The jury took 95 minutes to convict her of three counts of child abuse. She faces a mandatory prison term of 30 to 51 years at her sentencing, scheduled for June 13.
And jury members hadn't even been told about Lily.
She was the Parkers' second daughter. She died at 3 after a series of seizures in 2001, three months before Zion was born.

/there is no reason not to feed your kids lean meat


When I grow up I want to marry you.

Srsly. Yer awesome, Ringy :3
 
2013-09-12 03:32:28 AM

Freschel: great minds think alike


They do, but YOU'RE thinking like me.

:-\
 
2013-09-12 03:37:04 AM

Zombie DJ: You know who invented salad? Poor people....


Originally, salad greens served as an excuse to eat salt, in the same way tortilla chip serve as an excuse to eat salsa, or potatoes as an excuse to eat sour cream.
 
2013-09-12 03:38:33 AM
We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat
 
2013-09-12 03:38:35 AM
fark her. I'm sitting here reading this, not long after sending yet another "please call your kid" email to my kid's dad...he moved 2 hours away almost a year ago and started calling him only about every 2 months and has seen him twice (I drove, those are the only times it "would work"). No child support has ever been exchanged, it's not about that...I just want my kid to not feel shiatty because he's 13 now and "dad's just busy, you know he misses you" just doesn't cut it anymore.

Not fair. I would never withhold visits, and I have a sinking feeling my ex would prefer if I was more like this woman. If it wasn't for this awesome kid, I would agree with anyone who says I should have chosen more wisely in my youth. :/
 
2013-09-12 03:41:14 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat


that's just silly... everyone knows vegetarians are to weak to assert anything.
 
2013-09-12 03:43:46 AM

rogue_L_chick: fark her. I'm sitting here reading this, not long after sending yet another "please call your kid" email to my kid's dad...he moved 2 hours away almost a year ago and started calling him only about every 2 months and has seen him twice (I drove, those are the only times it "would work"). No child support has ever been exchanged, it's not about that...I just want my kid to not feel shiatty because he's 13 now and "dad's just busy, you know he misses you" just doesn't cut it anymore.

Not fair. I would never withhold visits, and I have a sinking feeling my ex would prefer if I was more like this woman. If it wasn't for this awesome kid, I would agree with anyone who says I should have chosen more wisely in my youth. :/


awww... damn, and I was all set to post the pic from Indiana Jones - Last Crusade "chose poorly"... just steal my thunder why don't ya.
 
2013-09-12 03:43:54 AM
Ringshadow: Stuff.

First sentence in that link you provided: "There is no harm in a properly balanced vegetarian diet."

I also followed the link they provided to KidsHealth.org offering more info about child vegetarianism.  This is what it said:

A Healthy Lifestyle

A vegetarian diet can be a healthy choice for all kids, as long as it's properly planned.

The principles of planning a vegetarian diet are the same as planning any healthy diet - provide a variety of foods and include foods from all of the food groups. A balanced diet will provide the right combinations to meet nutritional needs. But be aware of potential nutrient deficiencies in your child's diet and figure out how you'll account for them. With a little exploration, you may find more vegetarian options than you realized.

If you aren't sure your child is getting all necessary nutrients or if you have any questions about vegetarian diets, check in with your family doctor, pediatrician, or a registered dietitian.

Reviewed by:  Mary L. Gavin, MD Date reviewed: October 2011



To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids.  I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.
 
2013-09-12 03:45:06 AM
"I don't mind enforcing my lifestyle on my children, so long as their father is legally forced to help me. Otherwise he can never see them. Because I want everyone to know who controls things around here"

This is how hyper-vegetarians sound in my head.
 
2013-09-12 03:45:57 AM

BonesJackson: Ringshadow: Stuff.

First sentence in that link you provided: "There is no harm in a properly balanced vegetarian diet."

I also followed the link they provided to KidsHealth.org offering more info about child vegetarianism.  This is what it said:

A Healthy Lifestyle

A vegetarian diet can be a healthy choice for all kids, as long as it's properly planned.

The principles of planning a vegetarian diet are the same as planning any healthy diet - provide a variety of foods and include foods from all of the food groups. A balanced diet will provide the right combinations to meet nutritional needs. But be aware of potential nutrient deficiencies in your child's diet and figure out how you'll account for them. With a little exploration, you may find more vegetarian options than you realized.

If you aren't sure your child is getting all necessary nutrients or if you have any questions about vegetarian diets, check in with your family doctor, pediatrician, or a registered dietitian.

Reviewed by:  Mary L. Gavin, MD Date reviewed: October 2011


To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids.  I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.


Here is a simple test:

Do you have to use vitamins/artificial means to suppliment your nutrition?

YES = you're doing it wrong
NO = thumbs up
 
2013-09-12 03:46:13 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat

that's just silly... everyone knows vegetarians are to weak to assert anything.


You're exactly right. I'll trust your logic is well founded. I have yet to discover any athlete vegans, after all, so I know exactly what you're talking about.
 
2013-09-12 03:48:06 AM

aerojockey: Zombie DJ: You know who invented salad? Poor people....

Originally, salad greens served as an excuse to eat salt, in the same way tortilla chip serve as an excuse to eat salsa, or potatoes as an excuse to eat sour cream.


In fact, the very word "salad" comes from the Latin word for "salted."
 
2013-09-12 03:50:51 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: HindiDiscoMonster: OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat

that's just silly... everyone knows vegetarians are to weak to assert anything.

You're exactly right. I'll trust your logic is well founded. I have yet to discover any athlete vegans, after all, so I know exactly what you're talking about.


thebestpictureproject.files.wordpress.com
/Love the name
 
2013-09-12 03:50:52 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat

that's just silly... everyone knows vegetarians are to too weak to assert anything.


FTFY

/vegetarian
 
2013-09-12 03:51:30 AM

BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.


Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.
 
2013-09-12 03:52:49 AM

shtychkn: BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.

Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.


which vegetable provides biosoluable B12?
 
2013-09-12 03:58:35 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Thank you. 'Cordell' was taken.
 
2013-09-12 04:16:03 AM
Psycho-vegan freakout? Sounds like a job for The Reverend Horton Heat.
 
2013-09-12 04:21:02 AM
farm1.staticflickr.com

You Farkers really brought your A-game to this one. Bravo.

/Your kindergartener wants steak
 
2013-09-12 04:23:15 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: Here is a simple test:

Do you have to use vitamins/artificial means to suppliment your nutrition?

YES = you're doing it wrong
NO = thumbs up


THIS

supplemented diet = incomplete diet.

Balance of intake in regards to foodstuffs encourages the body's metabolism to remain constant. Stability of metabolism helps to ward off diabetes, for a start, and helps maintain mental stability.

My (hypothetical) kids will be free to choose to become vegan at any point of their lives, but not without a trip to a nutritionist doctor, and regular blood testing.

I cook for my household, catering for vegans (thus, myself, eating a 98% vegan diet), but you'll prize my bacon, cheese, steak, cheese, venison and bacon from my cold, dead, but well-fed hands. I simply get horribly depressed without meat and cheese.

Forcing a child to be vegan from birth means that you have effectively removed meat from the list of their easily digestible foodstuffs befor they have any legal say in the matter - when they come to the age of 18 and maybe want to try it themselves, they'll be most likely violently ill as their system rejects the animal proteins. (anyone who claims that this is not cruelty should be hung by their wrists and be bled to death from cuts to their soles)
 
2013-09-12 04:24:30 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: shtychkn: BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.

Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.

which vegetable provides biosoluable B12?


A Japanese fermented black tea known as Batabata-cha has been found to contain biologically active B12


If you can trust Wikipedia.


However, I should have been more clear in my post.  Milk products/yogurt are perfectly acceptable source in a vegetarian diet.
 
2013-09-12 04:37:51 AM

shtychkn: HindiDiscoMonster: shtychkn: BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.

Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.

which vegetable provides biosoluable B12?

A Japanese fermented black tea known as Batabata-cha has been found to contain biologically active B12


If you can trust Wikipedia.


However, I should have been more clear in my post.  Milk products/yogurt are perfectly acceptable source in a vegetarian diet.


Does not contain enough unless you are drinking it by the dozen gallons per day... talk about a pisser.
 
2013-09-12 04:50:23 AM
i265.photobucket.com
 
2013-09-12 04:53:48 AM
Ugh. These kinds of threads always have me at war with myself.

1) Mom FTFA is a twat, plain and simple.
2) Kids can get by perfectly fine on a vegetarian diet if done properly, like any other human.
3) When people forgo meat because they just don't like it, I'm slightly puzzled, but whatever.
4) When people forgo meat because OMG IT'S MURDER, I wish they'd shut the f*ck up.
5) When people forgo meat for religious or health reasons, more power to them.
6) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, and yet find myself eating healthy vegetarian or vegan meals at least half the time because my body appreciates the conscious increase in nutrients, and vegetables are crazy delicious. And if you have even the slightest ability to cook, getting enough protein and fat is a cinch.
7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.
8) Entire cultures have sustained themselves on largely vegetarian diets for millenia and gotten by just fine. Try eating their cuisines sometime, it's generally fantastic.
9) The next hippie who gives me a dirty look when I tear into a rare ribeye is getting stabbed with my fork.

tl;dr People on all sides of the veg issue can often be concern trolling assholes.
 
2013-09-12 05:09:44 AM
The father should have told her that it was mock meat, made of soy.  He could, also, tell her that he gives the kid mock wine and not real wine.  This should go over well when the mother comes to pick the kid up and asks why the kid is throwing up and falling down all over the place.  He's mock drunk.
 
2013-09-12 05:18:51 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat


Are you sure that you're wording it strongly enough? I would say 'The duty to eat meat. Three times a day. In complete-cow-like quantities.'
 
2013-09-12 05:24:27 AM
I get nearly all of my vegetables from 2 glasses of juiced veggies(w/pulp) a day. Aside from peas, corn, potatoes, and tomatoes(a fruit, I know), I find veggies fairly gross. Both taste and texture, and I've tried lots of vegetables lots of ways. I find it way easier to beer-chug my two mugs of veggie blargh than having to eat those colorful pieces of foulness. Meat and potatoes and bread is where its at.
 
2013-09-12 05:26:16 AM
The only questions the judge really has to ask himself in this case are does the kid like fish sticks? Does he like them in the mouth? What is this kid, some kind of gay fish? Nttawwt.
 
2013-09-12 05:26:25 AM
www.zimfamilycockers.com31.media.tumblr.comi.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-09-12 05:40:23 AM
"I'm sorry, I can't get over that awesome picture of Lord Justice Underhill."

I thought that was the mom.
 
2013-09-12 05:40:28 AM

robohobo: I get nearly all of my vegetables from 2 glasses of juiced veggies(w/pulp) a day. Aside from peas, corn, potatoes, and tomatoes(a fruit, I know), I find veggies fairly gross. Both taste and texture, and I've tried lots of vegetables lots of ways. I find it way easier to beer-chug my two mugs of veggie blargh than having to eat those colorful pieces of foulness. Meat and potatoes and bread is where its at.


Potatoes are a vegetable. MIND FREAK!
 
2013-09-12 05:57:18 AM

IBreakdance2NIN: Ugh. These kinds of threads always have me at war with myself.

1) Mom FTFA is a twat, plain and simple.
2) Kids can get by perfectly fine on a vegetarian diet if done properly, like any other human.
3) When people forgo meat because they just don't like it, I'm slightly puzzled, but whatever.
4) When people forgo meat because OMG IT'S MURDER, I wish they'd shut the f*ck up.
5) When people forgo meat for religious or health reasons, more power to them.
6) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, and yet find myself eating healthy vegetarian or vegan meals at least half the time because my body appreciates the conscious increase in nutrients, and vegetables are crazy delicious. And if you have even the slightest ability to cook, getting enough protein and fat is a cinch.
7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.
8) Entire cultures have sustained themselves on largely vegetarian diets for millenia and gotten by just fine. Try eating their cuisines sometime, it's generally fantastic.
9) The next hippie who gives me a dirty look when I tear into a rare ribeye is getting stabbed with my fork.

tl;dr People on all sides of the veg issue can often be concern trolling assholes.


Pretty much this.  My cousin is vegetarian for moral reasons, but she's never militant about it.  She practically doesn't mention her vegetarianism at all; I have on numerous occasions forgotten that she's a vegetarian.  It all works out rather beautifully: she feels good because she sticks to her principles, I get an extra serving of ham at Christmas dinner, and nobody is made to feel bad by anyone else for their dietary choices.  Wins all around!
 
2013-09-12 06:04:04 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-09-12 06:09:51 AM

Richard C Stanford: "I'm sorry, I can't get over that awesome picture of Lord Justice Underhill."

I thought that was the mom.


It's what a vegetarian mom might look like at that age.
 
2013-09-12 07:00:25 AM
Dear Brits,

i.dailymail.co.uk

THIS is why the rest of the world sees you as quaintly trapped in the 19th Century.

pip pip, cheerio, eh wot, and Bob's yer uncle


(Alternate caption: "Worst.Austin Powers.cosplay.ever.")
 
2013-09-12 07:25:24 AM

Millennium: Psycho-vegan freakout? Sounds like a job for The Reverend Horton Heat.


It's it's it's it's it's a psycho-vegan freakout!!!!!
 
2013-09-12 07:27:41 AM

lasercannon: "The mother's barrister, Byron James, argued on appeal that the reintroduction of so much contact after such a long break was 'too sudden and too steep a progression' and was likely to cause both the boy and his mother emotional harm."

Fark you lady. You didn't consider the emotional impact when you cut off all contact did you?


She just realizes that the minute her kid goes back to Dad's place and finds his dinner plate has a delicious slab of bloody meat on it, she's lost her kid.  She'll forever be "the icky food woman" and Dad will be the guy who serves him mouth-watering bacon-wrapped everything.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if that factored into the decision to keep the kid away from Dad in the first place.  I mean if you were 5 and the court was asking you who you wanted to stay with, would it be the person who made you eat nothing but vegetables or the guy who let you have a hot dog every now and then?
 
2013-09-12 07:31:43 AM
I just put my whole vacation on Lord Justice Underhill's American Express card. Want the number?

/Obscure?
 
2013-09-12 07:53:34 AM

pgh9fan: I just put my whole vacation on Lord Justice Underhill's American Express card. Want the number?

/Obscure?


I'll have a bloody mary and the steak sandwich, and... the steak sandwich, please.
 
2013-09-12 08:06:07 AM

doglover: Freschel: great minds think alike

They do, but YOU'RE thinking like me.

:-\


There's always the flipside: "fools seldom differ"
Y'ever think of that?
 
2013-09-12 08:06:39 AM
vegetarian diets are farking stupid
 
2013-09-12 08:12:31 AM
Damn hippies.  You know what, I freaking hate them.  Not for the average run of the mill reasons like "they smell" or "they're commies" but because they don't recognize ANY adverse effects of their lifestyle.

You've got people who are buying "craft made items" from third world countries to help out the local economy.  Oh... you mean a sweat shop that doesn't even have to have a building?  That's what I call a group of Egyptian women desperately sewing clothing that is being shipped overseas where a import/export company takes a significant portion of the markup.

You've got people queing up to buy hybrid cars left and right.  Oh, by the way, the minerals for that are strip-mined in Canada, shipped to Japan for treatment, then the finished batteries are shipped back to the US for assembly in the finished car.  It's about as good for the environment has a tire fire.

And they've all got stickers on EVERYTHING.  I mean freaking everything.  You know what stickers are made out of?  Plastic.  You know, one of the single most pollutant products in the world.

Oh, and they make everything brown and green.  You know how? Chemical dyes.  You want to know what recycled paper would really look like?  take a chunk of a cereal box and chew it for about 10 minutes then spit it out.  that's what those "100% recycled" paper products look like before Georgia Pacific coats them in dye.

Then you've got this twit.  She's justifying keeping her child away from his father by saving the lives of countless animals.  Never mind the slowly building hatred your child is developing, the moo-cow is gonna live a happy care-free lifestyle now.  I'm not even going to mention the nutritional jackassery that has a 80% chance of occurring,because once that kid manages to get ahold of his father and he shows him this article, all that hatred is going to spin right around to mommy and I've got a feeling rare steak will be appearing in the household.

Oh... wait... Daily Mail.  It's fake.  Nevermind, carry on.
 
2013-09-12 08:12:46 AM
Daily Fail, huh?

I'm sure the story, as presented, is totally legit.
 
2013-09-12 08:16:20 AM

Lipspinach: doglover: Freschel: great minds think alike

They do, but YOU'RE thinking like me.

:-\

There's always the flipside: "fools seldom differ"
Y'ever think of that?


whenever someone says "great minds think alike" to me, I always reply "so do sheep".   One of my wittier quips that doesn't seem to get old.
 
2013-09-12 08:18:26 AM

IBreakdance2NIN: Ugh. These kinds of threads always have me at war with myself.

1) Mom FTFA is a twat, plain and simple.
2) Kids can get by perfectly fine on a vegetarian diet if done properly, like any other human.
3) When people forgo meat because they just don't like it, I'm slightly puzzled, but whatever.
4) When people forgo meat because OMG IT'S MURDER, I wish they'd shut the f*ck up.
5) When people forgo meat for religious or health reasons, more power to them.
6) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, and yet find myself eating healthy vegetarian or vegan meals at least half the time because my body appreciates the conscious increase in nutrients, and vegetables are crazy delicious. And if you have even the slightest ability to cook, getting enough protein and fat is a cinch.
7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.
8) Entire cultures have sustained themselves on largely vegetarian diets for millenia and gotten by just fine. Try eating their cuisines sometime, it's generally fantastic.
9) The next hippie who gives me a dirty look when I tear into a rare ribeye is getting stabbed with my fork.

tl;dr People on all sides of the veg issue can often be concern trolling assholes.


So because I like the taste of meat more than I like the taste of veggies, I'm a twat?  And before you assume it's the quality of veggies, I have a very productive garden filled with all my favorites.  Tomatoes and corn are great, but they're not as great as chicken or steak or pig.  And as such, I'll have them as a side to my meat main course thank you very much.

/Breakfast is for cereal Mon-Fri
 
2013-09-12 08:29:03 AM
Salad?  You mean that stuff my food eats to become food?
 
2013-09-12 08:40:20 AM

RoyBatty: Disgusting. Just completely disgusting.


I don't know.  They must wash those things once a week at a minimum.  Maybe they even have some kind of sanitary delousing spray they can use.
 
2013-09-12 08:50:34 AM
She can probably get really creative with a parsnip.
 
2013-09-12 09:00:56 AM

doglover: robohobo: I get nearly all of my vegetables from 2 glasses of juiced veggies(w/pulp) a day. Aside from peas, corn, potatoes, and tomatoes(a fruit, I know), I find veggies fairly gross. Both taste and texture, and I've tried lots of vegetables lots of ways. I find it way easier to beer-chug my two mugs of veggie blargh than having to eat those colorful pieces of foulness. Meat and potatoes and bread is where its at.

Potatoes are a vegetable. MIND FREAK!


More of a starch, really.
 
2013-09-12 09:27:15 AM

SJKebab: I'd like to take this opportunity to point out how awesome the mother of my nephew is.  She's a vegetarian, my neph is a carnivore, and his little brother (I consider him a neph but technically no blood relation) wants to follow in his mothers footsteps.  She wouldn't have a bar of it.  Her philosophy is that she's a vegetarian for moral reasons, but until her son (9 years old now) is old enough to fully appreciate and debate the topic, he's going to get fed a proper omnivorous diet.  She's cooked meat for him every day even though she can't stand the smell of the stuff now.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do it.


Good on her. Her kids will grow up respecting others for this and have an easier time. If only most parents didn't force their beliefs on their kids.
 
2013-09-12 09:29:57 AM
Salad is murder too.
 
2013-09-12 09:33:40 AM
Ugly woman, nice hair though.
 
2013-09-12 09:36:37 AM
"
The mother's barrister, Byron James, argued on appeal that the reintroduction of so much contact after such a long break was 'too sudden and too steep a progression' and was likely to cause both the boy and his mother emotional harm.


So, the mother defies a court order and prevents the child from having any contact with his father for over a year and than her lawyer argues that the child should have no more contact with his father because they haven't been in contact for so long ?!?
He probably even said this with a straight face.

Btw, why wasn't the boy's mother punished for defying a court order and potentially harming both her son and his father ?
If the roles had been reversed and the father had defied a court order and kept his son from visiting his mother, would the courts have ignored it and just said don't do it again ?
 
2013-09-12 09:42:22 AM

LL316: IBreakdance2NIN: Ugh. These kinds of threads always have me at war with myself.

1) Mom FTFA is a twat, plain and simple.
2) Kids can get by perfectly fine on a vegetarian diet if done properly, like any other human.
3) When people forgo meat because they just don't like it, I'm slightly puzzled, but whatever.
4) When people forgo meat because OMG IT'S MURDER, I wish they'd shut the f*ck up.
5) When people forgo meat for religious or health reasons, more power to them.
6) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, and yet find myself eating healthy vegetarian or vegan meals at least half the time because my body appreciates the conscious increase in nutrients, and vegetables are crazy delicious. And if you have even the slightest ability to cook, getting enough protein and fat is a cinch.
7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.
8) Entire cultures have sustained themselves on largely vegetarian diets for millenia and gotten by just fine. Try eating their cuisines sometime, it's generally fantastic.
9) The next hippie who gives me a dirty look when I tear into a rare ribeye is getting stabbed with my fork.

tl;dr People on all sides of the veg issue can often be concern trolling assholes.

So because I like the taste of meat more than I like the taste of veggies, I'm a twat?  And before you assume it's the quality of veggies, I have a very productive garden filled with all my favorites.  Tomatoes and corn are great, but they're not as great as chicken or steak or pig.  And as such, I'll have them as a side to my meat main course thank you very much.

/Breakfast is for cereal Mon-Fri


I'm going to assume that she means someone who will not eat a meal without meat and will make a huge fuss (meat-anger) because it is not on the menu, kinda like the militant vegans and veg-heads we here about.  Believe me, I love my beef, chicken and poultry as much as you do, but sometimes, I can do without and not make a big deal about.
 
2013-09-12 09:53:39 AM
Vegetarians being sanctimonious douchebags? Never.
 
2013-09-12 09:57:20 AM

IBreakdance2NIN: Ugh. These kinds of threads always have me at war with myself.

1) Mom FTFA is a twat, plain and simple.
2) Kids can get by perfectly fine on a vegetarian diet if done properly, like any other human.
3) When people forgo meat because they just don't like it, I'm slightly puzzled, but whatever.
4) When people forgo meat because OMG IT'S MURDER, I wish they'd shut the f*ck up.
5) When people forgo meat for religious or health reasons, more power to them.
6) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, and yet find myself eating healthy vegetarian or vegan meals at least half the time because my body appreciates the conscious increase in nutrients, and vegetables are crazy delicious. And if you have even the slightest ability to cook, getting enough protein and fat is a cinch.
7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.
8) Entire cultures have sustained themselves on largely vegetarian diets for millenia and gotten by just fine. Try eating their cuisines sometime, it's generally fantastic.
9) The next hippie who gives me a dirty look when I tear into a rare ribeye is getting stabbed with my fork.

tl;dr People on all sides of the veg issue can often be concern trolling assholes.


Well put my friend!
 
2013-09-12 10:10:30 AM

ParagonComplex: "The little girl saw her dad coming out of the shower and said "dad, when do I get a penis like that?" The dad replied "As soon as mommy goes to work." - George Carlin. "Feed him meat" goes both ways.



Where do send the bill for my new monitor?
 
2013-09-12 10:14:09 AM

OOBE Juan Kenobi: We, carnivores, must continue to protect and assert our right to kill other sentient beings and eat their flesh on the Internet. For if we fail to continue, friends, I feel that the vegans will begin to assert control. We cannot let this happen. We should contemplate creating an 11th Amendment: The Right to Eat Meat



We're just trying to protect sensitive plants from the slaughter brought upon them by vegetarians.
 
2013-09-12 10:19:15 AM

IBreakdance2NIN: 7) I f*cking love meat of all kinds, but people who INSIST on meat at every single meal are twats.



This is the same sort of "You're doing it WRONG!" attitude as #4.
 
2013-09-12 10:23:55 AM
I think the father should take the boy hunting.
 
2013-09-12 10:36:36 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Boy, she sure is an ugly one. Woof!
 
2013-09-12 10:40:51 AM
uttertosh:
Forcing a child to be vegan from birth means that you have effectively removed meat from the list of their easily digestible foodstuffs befor they have any legal say in the matter - when they come to the age of 18 and maybe want to try it themselves, they'll be most likely violently ill as their system rejects the animal proteins.

I was raised strictly vegan. A few days after I turned 18 and  left escaped my parents, I walked into a fantastic deli and ordered a big freakin' pastrami sandwich with cheese. I swear that thing was piled a foot high with pastrami.

I ate the whole damned thing, loved every bite, and wasn't sick a bit. This whole fallacy that vegans will get "sick" if they eat meat is stupid. Do you get sick any time you try a new food? No? Well, vegans don't get sick from eating meat. They may have a psychosomatic reaction, but it's not their body "rejecting animal proteins."
 
2013-09-12 11:17:42 AM
Can we kill and eat the Judge Lord & Taylor's powdered wig? Mmm pre-breaded.
 
2013-09-12 11:18:08 AM

BonesJackson: Yes, growing kids need protein, fats, carbohydrates, etc. Let's not get silly though. You don't quite understand nutrition if you honestly believe a child can't grow up healthy without the aid of animal proteins. Just because some nutters do it wrong (if they actually do--or are you arguing on a personal inkling you don't expect to be called out on?) doesn't mean it's unquestionably impossible.


Now, if she's researching all the correct types of vegetables, fruits, beans, nuts, and grains that provide the proper nutrients, and then providing supplements for any missing proteins, great. But without that good effort, she could be hurting her child.
 
2013-09-12 11:21:49 AM

PainfulItching: She can probably get really creative with a parsnip.


Moooom... This parsnip tastes like salt and shame.
 
2013-09-12 11:42:22 AM

mike_d85: Lipspinach: doglover: Freschel: great minds think alike

They do, but YOU'RE thinking like me.

:-\

There's always the flipside: "fools seldom differ"
Y'ever think of that?

whenever someone says "great minds think alike" to me, I always reply "so do sheep".   One of my wittier quips that doesn't seem to get old.


nice
 
2013-09-12 12:09:03 PM

Ringshadow: /there is no reason not to feed your kids lean meat


If you discount the people who do it for moral reasons
 
2013-09-12 12:21:09 PM

rogue_L_chick: fark her. I'm sitting here reading this, not long after sending yet another "please call your kid" email to my kid's dad...he moved 2 hours away almost a year ago and started calling him only about every 2 months and has seen him twice (I drove, those are the only times it "would work"). No child support has ever been exchanged, it's not about that...I just want my kid to not feel shiatty because he's 13 now and "dad's just busy, you know he misses you" just doesn't cut it anymore.

Not fair. I would never withhold visits, and I have a sinking feeling my ex would prefer if I was more like this woman. If it wasn't for this awesome kid, I would agree with anyone who says I should have chosen more wisely in my youth. :/


I'm sorry :(
 
2013-09-12 12:28:13 PM

Helena Handbasket: uttertosh:
Forcing a child to be vegan from birth means that you have effectively removed meat from the list of their easily digestible foodstuffs befor they have any legal say in the matter - when they come to the age of 18 and maybe want to try it themselves, they'll be most likely violently ill as their system rejects the animal proteins.

I was raised strictly vegan. A few days after I turned 18 and  left escaped my parents, I walked into a fantastic deli and ordered a big freakin' pastrami sandwich with cheese. I swear that thing was piled a foot high with pastrami.

I ate the whole damned thing, loved every bite, and wasn't sick a bit. This whole fallacy that vegans will get "sick" if they eat meat is stupid. Do you get sick any time you try a new food? No? Well, vegans don't get sick from eating meat. They may have a psychosomatic reaction, but it's not their body "rejecting animal proteins."


People who don't eat enough protein in general will get sick.  I'm guessing your parents (rather reasonably) ate a lot of bean products, grains and such to supplement the protein.  There are tons of vegans who survive mostly off of leafy greens and traditional vegetables because anything that doesn't look like a produce ad tastes like hate.  THOSE are the ones that get sick.  The ones that eat salads a lot, drink almond milk smoothies for breakfast, and have some tofu with their rice and vegetables at night.
 
2013-09-12 12:32:08 PM
Daily Fail, there is at least one part of this article that was made up by the writer.
 
2013-09-12 01:02:41 PM

arbitterm: "I don't mind enforcing my lifestyle on my children, so long as their father is legally forced to help me. Otherwise he can never see them. Because I want everyone to know who controls things around here"

This is how hyper-vegetarians sound in my head.


Don't blame this on vegetarianism.  It could have been some other life stance, such as Catholicism to name one.
 
2013-09-12 01:15:55 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: shtychkn: BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.

Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.

which vegetable provides biosoluable B12?


Having lived on the Indian subcontinent, I can tell you that a lot of people who eat little to no meat do consume dairy products and eat eggs, milk and yogurt especially.  Also, in that part of the world, many people who don't eat red meat will occasionally indulge in chicken ("occasionally" usually meaning "when they can afford it").

It might also be worth pointing out that (much like with Buddhism) the western and eastern concept of "vegetarian" tends to differ.

/Let's please not get into an argument about who is and isn't "really" vegetarian.
 
2013-09-12 01:16:49 PM

enik: Vegetarians being sanctimonious douchebags? Never.


That never happens with meat eaters?

In my almost 20 years of being a non-vegan vegetarian I've encountered far more self righteous carnivores than not.  I don't preach about my dietary choice, and couldn't care less about yours.  In fact, the people around me are mostly unaware, and my family often forgets that I'm a vegetarian.  The reaction I usually get from someone once they've found me out is straight out of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.  They point, shriek, and attempt to assimilate me.  Many one sided arguments have been had over why "you should just eat meat... because... Bacon!"

In my early twenties, I was bartending, and one night a semi regular came in for a couple beers and a bit to eat.  As we talked he casually offered me a chicken finger.  I politely declined.  He pushed the basket forward, and insisted.  I explained that I was vegetarian.  This man stared blankly at me for a moment, and then began a tirade of foul language and disgust with "my kind".  After threatening me with bodily harm, and no small amount of finger wagging (both he and the chicken) he stormed out without paying.  Good times.

So yes, there are some crazy militant vegetarians out there, but the saloon door swings both ways my friend.
 
2013-09-12 01:46:03 PM
Wouldn't usually but had to jump in here.

FIrst off, the case being linked to, what can we conclude from this... some people are idiots regardless of diet? In her defence, if you look past the headline the "I'm worried he wont feed the kid according to my idea of what I think the kid should eat" is not the sole point being made about the father.

Why shouldn't the specifcs of a childs diet be a concern for a parent? Whether you are concerned about having too much junk food, or something they are allergic to, or too many scotches and cigars, or NO meat, or LOTS of meat... I'm just saying that similar cases are happening all over the place, where "what the child eats" *IS* a legitimate factor in the decisions. In most cases it would probably only be a small part of a larger picture of course - providing the child isn't malnourished one way or the other (or even overnourished?)

So what's the story really? "Woman and man have child, break up and in the custody battle Woman raises the issue of childs diet. " ..... possibly followed up wit "Judge decides (among other factors) diet alone is not sufficient reason for Woman to have sole custody."

Not enough time in the day to counter argue every half baked anti-veggie / anti-vegan point being made here, but the majority seem to fall into A: "I just haven't done my research" B: "I'm a wannabe keyboard caveman who thinks eating bacon is akin to chasing and killing a wooly mammoth by hand and drinking it's blood. And it's probably written into the US constituion on the back of a bald eagle too. This is about freedom, man. Or some noble shiat like that."

Eat what you want and take some responsibility either way.
 
2013-09-12 02:02:35 PM

Effexx: enik: Vegetarians being sanctimonious douchebags? Never.

That never happens with meat eaters?

In my almost 20 years of being a non-vegan vegetarian I've encountered far more self righteous carnivores than not.  I don't preach about my dietary choice, and couldn't care less about yours.  In fact, the people around me are mostly unaware, and my family often forgets that I'm a vegetarian.  The reaction I usually get from someone once they've found me out is straight out of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.  They point, shriek, and attempt to assimilate me.  Many one sided arguments have been had over why "you should just eat meat... because... Bacon!"

In my early twenties, I was bartending, and one night a semi regular came in for a couple beers and a bit to eat.  As we talked he casually offered me a chicken finger.  I politely declined.  He pushed the basket forward, and insisted.  I explained that I was vegetarian.  This man stared blankly at me for a moment, and then began a tirade of foul language and disgust with "my kind".  After threatening me with bodily harm, and no small amount of finger wagging (both he and the chicken) he stormed out without paying.  Good times.

So yes, there are some crazy militant vegetarians out there, but the saloon door swings both ways my friend.


Come to find out that his chicken farm had just been foreclosed on because of declining demand for his products.

SAVE THE CHICKEN FARMERS!!!!
 
2013-09-12 02:21:10 PM
Considering that every vegetarian I know exists on a diet of oreos, I'm not convinced it's different from what most idiots feed their children.

The kid is more likely to be screwed up by the hateful concept of some crazy lady cutting the father out of the child's life.
 
2013-09-12 02:33:04 PM
ts1.mm.bing.net
First thing dad should feed the kid.
 
2013-09-12 02:48:12 PM
Flipping through the sources...

Not very convincing, sorry.

Example:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/vegans-life-starving-week-son/story ? id=14508628">http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Diet/vegans-life-starving-w eek-son/story? id=14508628

Ringshadow: BonesJackson: Sources on these repeated cases of permanently damaged children?

Yes, growing kids need protein, fats, carbohydrates, etc.  Let's not get silly though.  You don't quite understand nutrition if you honestly believe a child can't grow up healthy without the aid of animal proteins.  Just because some nutters do it wrong (if they actually do--or are you arguing on a personal inkling you don't expect to be called out on?) doesn't mean it's unquestionably impossible.

All due respect but this woman is clearly off her rocker, and there's no reason to put a kid on this level of diet unless there are actual medical issues involved, IN WHICH CASE it would have been brought before the court.

No great sources either way, but here's What's the Harm, with a list of dead/injured kids due to dietary whackery

From there, here's a news story.

The Parkers were vegan, a common but less-than-household term that sounds distinctly extraterrestrial, possibly because the star Vega has spawned numerous science-fiction aliens that bore the name Vegan. From a dietary perspective, vegans are vegetarians who shun not only meat but animal products like gelatin, eggs, cheese and milk.
...
Kimu Parker's trial ended April 9: The jury took 95 minutes to convict her of three counts of child abuse. She faces a mandatory prison term of 30 to 51 years at her sentencing, scheduled for June 13.
And jury members hadn't even been told about Lily.
She was the Parkers' second daughter. She died at 3 after a series of seizures in 2001, three months before Zion was born.

/there is no reason not to feed your kids lean meat

 
2013-09-12 03:07:03 PM

Mister Buttons: Croooow!: D) All of the above.  (He hit him with meat porn)

[i.imgur.com image 267x400]


s16.postimg.org
 
2013-09-12 03:31:45 PM

ciberido: HindiDiscoMonster: shtychkn: BonesJackson: To be clear, I'm not arguing on behalf the woman in this article or the parents listed on your link who did neglect their kids. I'm saying raising a child vegetarian isn't in and of itself child abuse.

Many on the Indian Subcontinent agree with your statement.  Millions upon millions of people raise their children never eating meat.  Not an issue as long as you get the requires nutrients from a variety of different vegetables.

which vegetable provides biosoluable B12?

Having lived on the Indian subcontinent, I can tell you that a lot of people who eat little to no meat do consume dairy products and eat eggs, milk and yogurt especially.  Also, in that part of the world, many people who don't eat red meat will occasionally indulge in chicken ("occasionally" usually meaning "when they can afford it").

It might also be worth pointing out that (much like with Buddhism) the western and eastern concept of "vegetarian" tends to differ.

/Let's please not get into an argument about who is and isn't "really" vegetarian.


Another advantage to not eating red meat? MUCH lower prostate cancer rates.
 
2013-09-12 03:58:48 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: If she's still breastfeeding the boy, I'm not going to argue with her. There's no need for a kid to eat meat if he can consume breast milk. It contains all the nutrients babies need.


If he's five years old then it is probably time to start weaning.
www.brawndo.com
 
2013-09-12 04:59:16 PM

SJKebab: I'd like to take this opportunity to point out how awesome the mother of my nephew is.  She's a vegetarian, my neph is a carnivore, and his little brother (I consider him a neph but technically no blood relation) wants to follow in his mothers footsteps.  She wouldn't have a bar of it.  Her philosophy is that she's a vegetarian for moral reasons, but until her son (9 years old now) is old enough to fully appreciate and debate the topic, he's going to get fed a proper omnivorous diet.  She's cooked meat for him every day even though she can't stand the smell of the stuff now.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you do it.


I wholeheartedly agree my SO is Vegan and she has no problem with my meat choices as long as I respect hers. The upshot is I can do the meatly cooking and she can do the veg for the inevitable crotchfruit.
 
2013-09-12 09:01:53 PM

Ringshadow: That child is going to grow up very, very stunted if not incredibly ill. There have been repeat cases of children being permanently damaged by psycho parents enforcing this kind of diet. Growing bodies need protein and dairy to properly assemble themselves. They are growing muscle and bone, if you don't give them the raw materials you are harming your kid.

Piscetarian? Fine, I'll go with it. No red meat? Okay, sure, some religions do that, no harm have some fowl. No pork? Okay. No meat at all?! Insanity.

Do whatever you want to your body but if you force choices on someone else's body you're a nutter.

/hope the kid's dad introduces him to the wonder of proper protein
//hell make it organic free range protein just to be a dick about it




Batshiat insanity I say, but I'm not like the sane that buy into sky wizards. Seems to me that our own senses provide us with enough nurishment satisfaction all by themselves. Those people that say, I don't eat seafood, crack my shiat up but I grew up by the sea. Damn! farking bias, how does it work?

Babies like tits and thats good enough for me.

/pig tastes good
//hmmmm, long pig?
 
2013-09-13 12:37:12 PM
If I were the dad, my first stop with my son would be at the bacon store.
 
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