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(CBS New York)   New York is being overrun by completely unregulated, illegal, underground, criminal dinner parties   (newyork.cbslocal.com) divider line 162
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2013-09-12 01:51:48 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.
 
2013-09-12 01:52:36 AM
Wrong thread
 
2013-09-12 01:53:20 AM
WTF?
 
2013-09-12 01:55:07 AM
Sounds like they are trying to run a restaurant without paying for licenses.

Now, I'm not saying I think that restaurants should be regulated to an inch of their lives. Nor am I saying that restaurants should be completely unregulated. But if running these things means that there is no check on health and safety, I'm going to fall on the side of the government and treat them as serious violations. Not to mention the taxes evaded.
 
2013-09-12 01:55:43 AM
When dinner parties become illegal only illegals will have dinner parties!

/Ay Carumba
//Really
///Nothing better to do NYC
 
2013-09-12 01:57:18 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.


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2013-09-12 01:58:22 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.


During an underground dinner party?
 
2013-09-12 01:58:27 AM
How to derail a thread in a single post...
 
2013-09-12 02:01:04 AM
Like the furries before them, the foodies must be stopped.

Jail them all I say.
 
2013-09-12 02:01:15 AM
I have a dinner party almost every night at my house.  The family loves it.  I'm a rebel!
 
2013-09-12 02:01:16 AM
static.tvfanatic.com
 
2013-09-12 02:01:55 AM
My give-a-fark-o-meter is pegged at 0.
 
2013-09-12 02:05:24 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Wrong thread


No, no, you have our undivided attention. What is most interesting to me is that there is a right thread for this post. Time to poke around, though sadly Dinosaurless.

/question to you is, was it indeed the next big thing?
 
2013-09-12 02:07:18 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Wrong thread


What thread were you aiming for? I miss that show. Don't remember any illegal dinner party episodes, but anything is possible ...
 
2013-09-12 02:10:33 AM
 
2013-09-12 02:10:43 AM
they eat dinner in a sewer? wouldn't the food taste like um, i don't know. not very good?
 
2013-09-12 02:12:37 AM
When asked if the underground restaurants should be regulated, Lubarsky told Leitner, "Yes, they should be regulated by the same system that regulates every restaurant in New York City."

Thanksgiving alone, will make New York richer than Saudi Arabia.

First, they biatch about 'unregulated dinner parties', then reveal that they aren't required to be.

On numerous occasions, I have cooked hot dogs over an uncontained fire on a piece of green, somewhat freshly debarked stick, and given them to other people. On many of those instances, the fire was initially started with petrolium products.

/Public Enemy #1
 
2013-09-12 02:12:49 AM
They're not really underground til you have to go to the light pole on the corner to get instructions to the phone both on 29th that tells you to look for the arrow on the side of the brick building pointing to the...
 
2013-09-12 02:14:48 AM
There's a magical place where you can have all of the dinner parties you want; without getting a single permit. It's called Kansas.

/ come to the dark side; we have brownies
 
2013-09-12 02:15:21 AM

OnyxOdin: I have a dinner party almost every night at my house.  The family loves it.   I'm a rebel!


Only if you charge the guests money. That would be running a restaurant without a license.
 
2013-09-12 02:15:53 AM
When dinner parties are outlawed, only outlaws will have Chicken Kiev.
 
2013-09-12 02:16:04 AM
If it's invitation-only, through members-only websites and such, how is that open to the public? Does that mean that if someone has a party and charges a cup fee they should be regulated under the same rules that a professional restaurant is regulated under? What about making the guys chip in for pizza and beer for the big game? Whatever are we to do about this horrible criminal scourge?
 
2013-09-12 02:17:14 AM
wait until they find out about rent parties,


oh the horror
 
2013-09-12 02:19:16 AM

Kanemano: wait until they find out about rent parties,


oh the horror


Or lemon parties. OH NOES!
 
2013-09-12 02:22:50 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.


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Her?
 
2013-09-12 02:23:58 AM
If the government has the manpower to investigate this kind of shiat, then it's proof the government is bloated.
 
2013-09-12 02:24:32 AM

cygnusx13: My give-a-fark-o-meter is pegged at 0.


Yup.

Oldiron left with a dozen farks that day. Oldiron returned with 12 farks. How many farks did oldiron give that day?
 
2013-09-12 02:25:32 AM

OgreMagi: If the government has the manpower to investigate this kind of shiat, then it's proof the government is bloated.


Yes, God forbid the government take an interest in people waving their dicks at the law for the lulz.
 
2013-09-12 02:28:00 AM
That article was satire. It's got to be.
 
2013-09-12 02:28:20 AM

LordJiro: OgreMagi: If the government has the manpower to investigate this kind of shiat, then it's proof the government is bloated.

Yes, God forbid the government take an interest in people waving their dicks at the law for the lulz.


You mean people like Rosa Parks who waved her dick at the law?

Here's a hint. Not all laws need to exist.  Some of those bad laws are used to ruin your life.  Others are just an annoyance to you and really only exist so the government can collect more money.  Either way, they those types of laws need to go away.
 
2013-09-12 02:32:06 AM
For those of you who haven't RTFA, or even RTFA but are stupid, they are charging money for these "parties".  Which pretty much makes it a restaurant and should be regulated.
 
2013-09-12 02:33:21 AM

untaken_name: If it's invitation-only, through members-only websites and such, how is that open to the public? Does that mean that if someone has a party and charges a cup fee they should be regulated under the same rules that a professional restaurant is regulated under? What about making the guys chip in for pizza and beer for the big game? Whatever are we to do about this horrible criminal scourge?


I expect the bright line is whether the host is providing a service for profit or income, rather than merely facilitating fair sharing of costs among participants.
 
2013-09-12 02:35:25 AM

LordJiro: OgreMagi: If the government has the manpower to investigate this kind of shiat, then it's proof the government is bloated.

Yes, God forbid the government take an interest in people waving their dicks at the law for the lulz.


Next thing you know they'll come for the people that whack it multiple times to puppets.
 
2013-09-12 02:35:32 AM

Abacus9: OnyxOdin: I have a dinner party almost every night at my house.  The family loves it.   I'm a rebel!

Only if you charge the guests money. That would be running a restaurant without a license.


I'm relatively certain if you call it a 'club' (like the gourmet club my mom was in), and call them 'dues', you'd probably be fine.

OgreMagi:

Here's a hint. Not all laws need to exist.  Some of those bad laws are used to ruin your life.  Others are just an annoyance to you and really only exist so the government can collect more money.  Either way, they those types of laws need to go away.

The problem here is that food safety laws definitely need to be in existence and enforced. However, there's obviously a line, or possibly a few lines, that need to be drawn to keep it from getting ridiculous.
 
2013-09-12 02:36:53 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: For those of you who haven't RTFA, or even RTFA but are stupid, they are charging money for these "parties".  Which pretty much makes it a restaurant and should be regulated.


and charging $10 to cover the Keg makes you a bar and you should have a liqueur license
 
2013-09-12 02:37:46 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: For those of you who haven't RTFA, or even RTFA but are stupid, they are charging money for these "parties".  Which pretty much makes it a restaurant and should be regulated.


Yesterday I drove to the gas station with an empty gas can and got gas for my neighbor whose car was out of gas. He paid me five dollar for it. I suppose I broke the law not only for transporting gas illegality (no hazmat permit) but also for dispensing it illegally (no environmental impact statement).

Don't be a nitwit.
 
2013-09-12 02:38:17 AM
Well, yeah. You start charging, then you get into tax issues, and plus there's all the red tape about a food and victualer's license. And they sort of exist, because of sanitation and food safety issues--not to mention those pesky tax guys. Even caterers need to have inspections, and I've seen all too many folks get their businesses shut down because they didn't have their catering licenses in order.

Professional chefs, they usually have the requisite food safety courses, and a professional certainly doesn't want their rep to be, "Hey, aren't you the guy that gave a dozen folks food poisoning last month?" I can understand part of the draw, especially for something different that won't be on anyone's regular menu because of the cost to bring stuff in, to prepare, and in enough quantities to justify putting it on the menu, even for a special. Then again, that's why you have event planning, and do special menu nights--we used to do ticketed beer dinners at the Northampton Brewery, which sold about 40 seats, a set menu, and we knew ahead of time exactly how many folks we'd be serving. It was a way to promote the restaurant with something special, and with a lock on how many folks would attend, we could staff and order accordingly.

It's not that hard to set aside a room and do nights like this, but NY thrives on an underground scene, be it for art, music, or even shopping. It's "edgy" and in the end, it's about being cooler than the other kids, it's about being in the know on who to go to, and to pay out the nose for an "experience." It's also a possible way to get ptomaine, if you go to the wrong party. Not real likely, if you happen to go to one with a real chef, but then again, there are a LOT of foodies who would LOVE to be chefs, but don't really have the training, and sometimes a spotty understanding of food safety, and who will puff up their credentials. These get popular enough, there will be a ring or two of buzzkills who are going to wind up robbing the f*ck out of some socialites, and then things will go back to chefs realizing that it's not all that hard to reserve a room at their own places and do something on the books, charge exorbitantly for, and be entirely in the clear, and not have the tax man sniffing around. Or the health department. Or the US Fish and Wildlife Service if folks want to get their tucker on with some endangered species...
 
2013-09-12 02:38:58 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.


What else do you whack off to? I only ask for purely perverted reasons.
 
2013-09-12 02:40:54 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.


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2013-09-12 02:41:51 AM
DRTFA, dinner parties or unlicensed restaurants?
 
2013-09-12 02:41:59 AM

OgreMagi: LordJiro: OgreMagi: If the government has the manpower to investigate this kind of shiat, then it's proof the government is bloated.

Yes, God forbid the government take an interest in people waving their dicks at the law for the lulz.

You mean people like Rosa Parks who waved her dick at the law?

Here's a hint. Not all laws need to exist.  Some of those bad laws are used to ruin your life.  Others are just an annoyance to you and really only exist so the government can collect more money.  Either way, they those types of laws need to go away.


Yep. 60 years since Rosa Parks boldly held an illegal dinner party and the man is still harassing folks.

/Malcolm X had the right idea: illegal fondue parties - take that Olive Garden and the rest of you devils
 
2013-09-12 02:45:37 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.



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2013-09-12 02:46:18 AM

worlddan: The All-Powerful Atheismo: For those of you who haven't RTFA, or even RTFA but are stupid, they are charging money for these "parties".  Which pretty much makes it a restaurant and should be regulated.

Yesterday I drove to the gas station with an empty gas can and got gas for my neighbor whose car was out of gas. He paid me five dollar for it. I suppose I broke the law not only for transporting gas illegality (no hazmat permit) but also for dispensing it illegally (no environmental impact statement).

Don't be a nitwit.


Did you do it enough and generate enough of an income for you to live off of? Then it's a completely different story and darn tootin' you'd be breaking the law (emissions laws, though, not hazmat  - those negative pressure gas pumps are one of the most important aspects of reducing smog-forming pollutants).
 
2013-09-12 02:46:53 AM
I'm pretty sure I saw an episode of Bourdain's show featuring one of these clubs on the Left Coast. They blurred out all the faces. The members took turns hosting and most were chefs dabbling in new-to-them forms of cuisine.
 
2013-09-12 02:52:02 AM

propasaurus: DRTFA, dinner parties or unlicensed restaurants?


Both. Essentially unlicensed catering for a tiny clientele. And apparently way over priced, because ultimately, this is more about thumbing a nose at the tax man, than real dangers. Of course, this being said, someone is going to decide that they KNOW how to prepare fugu because they totally read a book on it once, and some folks are going to go the hospital, or some idgit is going to totally score some amazing wild mushrooms and wind up poisoning a few folks.

Years ago, a man went mushrooming, and he brought home some amazingly toxic mushrooms, and the sad thing is, he claimed that they were quite literally the most delicious things he'd ever eaten, and had himself a few more helpings because they were so damn tasty, and pretty much wrecked a few organs that he sort of really needed. That is kind of an issue with this sort of thing. Do you really trust some guy or gal who totally says that you'll have a unique experience?
 
2013-09-12 02:52:17 AM
Nothing like freshly clubbed baby seal, pan seared in oil from bald eagle beaks, served on a bed of dried manatee flippers.
 
2013-09-12 02:53:19 AM
At first i was going to say when sense are dinner parties illegal or need regulation?   then i read thr article and its kinda murks it up.
 
2013-09-12 02:57:21 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I don't know about anyone else, but I whacked off to the girl from that Dinosaurs show. More than once, I mean.



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2013-09-12 03:09:24 AM
I was thinking, "WTF?!  People can't invite a bunch of people to private dinner parties in NYC?"  Now that I know they charge for it, I'm a bit torn.  I'd like to think that people can do what they like in their own home, but this really does fall into a grey area for many reasons.
 
2013-09-12 03:14:59 AM
When asked at the dinner, "do you ever worry about getting caught?" Michael Patlazhan responded, "I definitely do."

The fact they even have to worry about getting caught is a deep, deep concern.

The fact so many of you are siding with regulate, tax, punish, and forbid really illuminates why things like all of the NSA scandals, high taxes, and the effective or partial repeal of the 2nd, 4th, 5th,  6th, 9th, and 10th amendments.

The more power you give the government the more they will take.  The more they take the less you have.

Thanks a lot assholes!
 
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