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(Slate)   Wonder how the Internet stayed up on 9/11? Thank this guy, whose algorithms made it much more efficient at massive data. Also, he single-handedly tried to stop the hijackers before Flight 11 hit the North Tower, thus became the very first 9/11 victim   (slate.com) divider line 36
    More: Hero, internet, Akamai Technologies, World Trade Center, Israeli-American, American Airlines Flight 11  
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2013-09-11 09:27:17 PM  
5 votes:

super_grass: This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


That's some weapons grade derp right there.
2013-09-11 09:36:10 PM  
4 votes:

Lady Indica: Wow, never heard this story. Hope it also shuts up the 'why didn't more fight back' crowd.

/hopes she goes down swinging


How does it shut them up?  One guy stood up to fight, while he was distracted kicking some hadji ass another one snuck up behind him and slit his throat.  If anything it makes the "Why didn't more fight back" crowd even angrier.
2013-09-11 09:48:44 PM  
3 votes:
I suppose I'll get called out as a jackass about this, or told I am diminishing his legacy, but the article added no new information about his death and the 911 Commission Report concluded he was stabbed in his seat immediately as the muscle hijackers made their move.  They speculated it was because he looked like a physical threat, being a larger man. No one reported that he had confronted anyone.
Although he would have seen two hijackers two rows up he almost certainly not know it was a suicide hijacking and immediately decide to attack.  Especially since one of the two directly in front was Atta and on the other flights, the pilot hijacker alone or with a bodyguard sat until the cabin was under control.
2013-09-11 09:20:31 PM  
3 votes:
This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".
2013-09-11 10:39:22 PM  
2 votes:

ParagonComplex: Fine, I'll be "that guy". It really is heroic to attempt to thwart the hijacking, but if he was so elite and an actual counterterrorism type of elite then why did he fail? Maybe more importantly, why the hell didn't everyone on board that plane gang rush? It may have been futile like United 98, but at least they would have tried.


Odds are it was government narrative, a myth, a legend, an emotional manipulation and an intentional leak.  I would find it difficult to believe that a man of such training could be killed by a guy with no where near the hand-to-hand skills armed with a box cutter. The writer of the first memo probably realized this and that's why that story has a gun. But the gun was troublesome in other respects so then they had to back track to being stabbed. That jives with the 'someone in business class was stabbed' statement over the airphone.

Then the question is, why weren't he or others fighting back? Unaware until it was too late? Following standard procedure to have the hijackers land and make demands? Waiting for the right time to strike at the hijackers and not expecting them to crash the plane?

We've had a dozen of years of government made up stories of heroic actions now. It's hard to believe anything that institution spews out in that vein now.
2013-09-11 10:10:38 PM  
2 votes:

Lady Indica: Wow, never heard this story. Hope it also shuts up the 'why didn't more fight back' crowd.


That peaked with Virginia Tech, I think, where you had fairly big-name pundits floating the idea that the shooter was a deranged madman, but the REAL criminals were the pampered students who, when they heard gunfire, failed to spontaneously pour out in to the hallways, forming flying wedges and trying to crush the shooter under the weight of their dead bodies.

Compare that with Fort Hood, where most of the "fight back" crowd directed their anger at the seekrit commie mooslim president who was single-handedly responsible for the policy that meant every file clerk and swimming instructor on the base didn't have an M60 slung over their backs.

Or Aurora, where they blamed the theater's no-weapons policy, but mostly talked amongst themselves about the interesting tactical challenges of taking down an armored shooter using gas grenades in a noisy and crowded theater. (Consensus: they'd all still have put a bullet square between his eyes inside of three seconds.)

I kept waiting for the Breitbart.com article about how those little snots at Newtown should have grabbed that shooter's ankles, instead of hiding in closets like cowards, but it never came. Well, there were a few posts along the lines of "whoa, what's with all this fuss over the dead teacher who shielded her kids with her body? If she really loved them, she'd have been packing!" But that was about it.

I'm sorry to say the joy of Monday morning quarterbacking mass tragedies seems to have gone away for a lot of these guys. If you ask me, it was killing bin Laden that really spoiled it. Now how are they supposed to say what they'd have done to him if they ran into him in the Piggly Wiggly parking lot?
2013-09-11 10:07:52 PM  
2 votes:
Interesting how they just know what happened on a flight where everyone died and the 'black' boxes weren't (officially) recovered and the last radio contact that happened at 8:13 am was routine.

Come on people, you're being bullshiatted. One way or another someone is lying somewhere.
2013-09-11 09:50:08 PM  
2 votes:
so America's super-CSI technicians are able to tell what actually happened to one specific person onboard one of the planes, yet to date, no one has been able to determine if it was a plane or a missile that hit the Pentagon.
2013-09-11 09:44:51 PM  
2 votes:

super_grass: This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


Well, you can die on your feet or on your knees. Since you've chosen the latter, while you're down there you can wash my floor.
2013-09-11 09:37:57 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like a great guy. How do we know how he acted on that day though?
2013-09-11 09:36:55 PM  
2 votes:

super_grass: fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


I was going to say something pithy suggesting maybe you should move to a country that shares your values but then I remembered that over the last 12 years or so, most Americans have come around to your way of thinking.

/depressed now.
//I wonder how difficult it would be to emigrate to Holland.
2013-09-11 09:33:24 PM  
2 votes:

Whiskey Dickens: I'm pissed that a former IDF member didn't knock the requisite heads. Would have made for an inspiring story if he'd taken out at least one with his hands.
C'mon! Like, isn't that the average IDF guy's wet dream? On a plane full of terrorists and no holds barred?


Well, I could take the conspiracy theory derp up to 11 and say that the Israel Defense Force caused the plane to crash into the tower and this guy really wasn't killed until it hit the tower because he was part of the Israeli conspiracy to cause 9/11/
2013-09-11 09:26:37 PM  
2 votes:
the two mathematicians had taken a complex set of algorithms, patented them, and created Akamai, a company that still today uses its intelligent software to deliver content quickly and efficiently on the Internet.

Well, someONE sure got rich.

"He was the first victim of the first war of the 21st century," says myopic and Amero-centric Marco Greenberg, Lewin's best friend.
2013-09-11 09:23:08 PM  
2 votes:
Random CSB:  9/11 was what made me a regular fark member.  I had visited a few times, but all the major news sites actually went down on 9/11 so I turned to Fark, and got the best up to the minute information from here.  So.. thanks Fark!

/Although I honestly dont think Fark would survive another event like 9/11, it alreayd dies during things like elections and exciting manhunts
2013-09-11 09:18:57 PM  
2 votes:
wow
2013-09-12 09:43:10 AM  
1 votes:
So lets get this straight a so-called counter-terrorism expert did not realize his plan was going to be hi-jacked until it was too late?  That's some fine expert counter-terrorism work there, Lou.
2013-09-12 01:44:48 AM  
1 votes:
A large building has many floors and many supports. These prevent collapse. When some of them are removed, collapse can occur, but it won't be like we saw on that day,  because of the laws of physics...resistance will slow the rate of collapse, and direct the energy toward the path of least resistance. Here, have some science with your logic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
2013-09-12 01:32:29 AM  
1 votes:
Buildings that are severely damaged on one side...tend to fall toward that side.
2013-09-12 01:17:46 AM  
1 votes:
leadmetal:
Sorry, those in government lie. They lie on small things. They certainly lie on the big ones. There is nothing sacred about the events of 11-sep-2001 that would cause them to stop lying. In fact they have all the reason to lie more. To create stories and myths that help them and most of all cover their collective asses.

I hate it when people think like this.

"The government has lied, therefore governments can only lie!"

Two planes hit two skyscrapers in the most populated place in the United States. Both impacts were seen on video. There is no mystery as to how heavy damage and fire can bring down such a building. As for building 7, a burning skyscraper fell on it and gouged a 20 storey hole in the side - you know, the side that was so engulfed in smoke you could barely see it. There is nothing at all inconsistent with the official story, unless you're a complete buffoon with no reasoning skills. Seriously, I'm not even joking, go and study basic logic. It will change the way you see the world.

No, I'm not just being snarky. I think you would genuinely benefit from studying logic, argumentation, etc. just as much as I did.
2013-09-11 11:13:52 PM  
1 votes:

Alonjar: and just to incite some tension...


I take a bite, and if it's just meh I have no problem A1ing it.  Hell, I'll use BBQ sauce sometimes if it's real crap.  But if it's a perfectly done filet, it's pretty farked up to put anything on it, let's be honest here.
2013-09-11 10:34:34 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free"


How's the steak?
www.taopractice.org
2013-09-11 10:25:37 PM  
1 votes:

ArcadianRefugee [TotalFark]
2013-09-11 09:26:37 PM


the two mathematicians had taken a complex set of algorithms, patented them, and created Akamai, a company that still today uses its intelligent software to deliver content quickly and efficiently on the Internet.

Well, someONE sure got rich.

"He was the first victim of the first war of the 21st century," says myopic and Amero-centric Marco Greenberg, Lewin's best friend.

He was a Jew, so according to FARK rules you can hate him and fit in just fine w/ the staff here.
2013-09-11 10:18:13 PM  
1 votes:

GungFu: TFA: "Based on dozens of interviews with those who spoke with two of the plane's flight attendants during the hijacking...

The flight attendants survived the crash?

Still confused.


There were people on the ground. Those people were in radio communication with two flight attendants during the hijacking. The attendants are dead. The people on the ground are not. The people who are not dead can be interviewed. At that point, they will talk about what they recall of their conversations with the people who are dead.

/Not sure if trolling or illiterate
2013-09-11 10:13:31 PM  
1 votes:
FTA: "Likely happened" <---says it all.
2013-09-11 09:57:42 PM  
1 votes:
Ok, I admit I've only read the first few paragraphs of the article....hoping to find out where they got the sources from about this guy on the plane.

Since it's a long read can someone just tell me how the fark is his story even known? Did the hijackers communicate with someone on the ground? Someone found a singed but otherwise readable minute by minute journal at Ground Zero? A spiritual medium? What?

Confused.
2013-09-11 09:53:38 PM  
1 votes:

Lady Indica: Wow, never heard this story. Hope it also shuts up the 'why didn't more fight back' crowd.

/hopes she goes down swinging


Does anyone remember Tom Kean and his questions about why the plane was allowed to fly visual down the hudson river without anyone from Poughkeepsie, Dix, Coast Guard, DEA, etc getting up there and at least shadowing teh plane(s)?
2013-09-11 09:42:21 PM  
1 votes:
Um, guys, I don't want to take anything away from the spectacular effort  super_grass is making here, but this was not a particularly subtle troll, that you so many of you should so quickly be biting so hard.
2013-09-11 09:42:15 PM  
1 votes:

Snapper Carr: super_grass: fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".

I was going to say something pithy suggesting maybe you should move to a country that shares your values but then I remembered that over the last 12 years or so, most Americans have come around to your way of thinking.

/depressed now.
//I wonder how difficult it would be to emigrate to Holland.


Holland's full of jerks. I'd suggest Australia, nobody ever farks with them.

Or New Zealand, except it's full of hobbitses.
2013-09-11 09:40:35 PM  
1 votes:
I don't get it. Do all the internet's backbone cables run up and down the towers?

If so, that makes UUnet look pretty darn stupid to make one big fail point for the whole internet.

Or is it that the two towers housed the old NSA listening post, and that's why all the world's internet traffic had to go through them?
2013-09-11 09:37:09 PM  
1 votes:
That was an interesting read. I'm glad I got to find out about this guy. Thanks for keeping FARK running that day, Sir. It was pretty much the only online news source that was working, even over on this side of the pond.

super_grass: This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


...for someone with that opinion you have a hugely ironic username
2013-09-11 09:33:39 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, never heard this story. Hope it also shuts up the 'why didn't more fight back' crowd.

/hopes she goes down swinging
2013-09-11 09:27:36 PM  
1 votes:
That story is horrible and sad.  Look at what an ass-kicker this guy was, and he still got snuffed by being in the wrong place.  Depressing.
2013-09-11 09:27:19 PM  
1 votes:
www.vfwpost404.org
2013-09-11 09:24:14 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


Ok, where shall I pick you up?  Plenty of work around here you can do.  I promise to feed you and beat you rarely.
2013-09-11 09:23:59 PM  
1 votes:
the most interesting man in the world?
2013-09-11 09:23:28 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass: This is why scum like Manning, Assange, Snowden, and their supporters need to be ridiculed as much as possible. Imagine how many more 9/11s will happen if they got their way and we dismantled our defenses against terrorism?

fark privacy, fark the constitution, I would rather be alive as a slave than be dead and "free".


Well done!
 
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