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(Huffington Post)   Texas textbook review panelist: "'creation science' based on Biblical principles should be incorporated into every Biology book that is up for adoption"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 255
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2013-09-11 02:35:39 PM
Proponents should only be able to use creation science in their family medical treatments.
 
2013-09-11 02:53:11 PM
"I understand the National Academy of Science's strong support of the theory of evolution. At the same time, [evolution] is a theory," wrote Beathard

Well, at least your last name rhymes with an apt description of you.
 
2013-09-11 02:58:29 PM
how are these children going to exist in the real world?
 
2013-09-11 03:12:56 PM
Well, think about this... in just a few years these kids will be voting.  Voting for things like funding science, medicine, et al.  Congratulations Texas; you're farking up our society.
 
2013-09-11 03:13:32 PM
Superstitious, prancing stone age savages. And where Texas goes in education textbooks, so goes the nation.

We'd be better off letting australopithecus dictate our core curriculum. At least kids would learn some practical things about nuts and berries and shiat.
 
2013-09-11 03:32:25 PM
teaching creationism as science is child abuse.
 
2013-09-11 03:36:31 PM

ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?


As long as they stay in Texas they're golden
 
2013-09-11 03:39:48 PM

Blues_X: Proponents should only be able to use creation science in their family medical treatments.


Yay! Penicillin for all!
 
2013-09-11 03:40:36 PM

ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?


Apparently they get jobs at Texas A&M

Panelist Karen Beathard, who works in the Department of Nutrition and Food Science at Texas A&M University, critiqued the lack of creationism reflected in the textbooks.
 
2013-09-11 03:40:36 PM

ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?


Poorly, would be my guess.
 
2013-09-11 03:41:01 PM
Or, as an alternative--hear me out, here--you can go fark yourself.
 
2013-09-11 03:41:45 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?

As long as they stay in Texas they're golden


Not the issue.... Texas buys more books, in bulk, than any other customer.  So most school districts follow what Texas does in order to get text books cheaper.  So when it comes to textbooks, where Texas leads, the country follows.  Not everywhere, but in enough places that stories like this are far more scary than they appear.
 
2013-09-11 03:42:05 PM
If this goes thru I want them to include ancient Egyptian and Norse pagan creationist beliefs in textbooks as well.
 
2013-09-11 03:44:07 PM

netizencain: Well, think about this... in just a few years these kids will be voting.  Voting for things like funding science, medicine, et al.  Congratulations Texas; you're farking up our society.


Godammitsomuch. I swear not all of us are science-illiterate 'tards. I really hope this is the last gasp of conservative fogeys before millenials and latinos eventually turn our state purple, then blue.
 
2013-09-11 03:44:19 PM

netizencain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?

As long as they stay in Texas they're golden

Not the issue.... Texas buys more books, in bulk, than any other customer.  So most school districts follow what Texas does in order to get text books cheaper.  So when it comes to textbooks, where Texas leads, the country follows.  Not everywhere, but in enough places that stories like this are far more scary than they appear.


Civilized places will reject books with such non-sense.  Or at least skip over those chapters.  I am sure that there are groups out there that would love to supply textbooks for free to school children.  But such books would be unsuitable for an education.
 
2013-09-11 03:47:13 PM
http://nfs.tamu.edu/facultystaff/faculty/beathard-karen/

She teaches a class called "Food Service Mgmt "; hence she's a perfect panelist to debate evolution.
 
2013-09-11 03:47:20 PM
No.  No it shouldn't, thinking it does, or not knowing why it shouldn't, should disqualify you for that job. Dumbass.
 
2013-09-11 03:49:24 PM
Why doesn't California challenge this?  They have plenty of students
 
2013-09-11 03:49:38 PM
"At the same time, [evolution] is a theory," wrote Beathard...

Well OK, then, as long it is a "theory", we better damn well teach it. And while we are at it, here are a couple more, courtesy of Wikipedia.

Chiromancy:  Palm reading
Iridology: Same deal, but based on the iris.
Phrenology: Same deal, but shape of the head.

However, in this case, we do have a marvelous chance to teach the real world use of Carlo Maria Cipollo's 5th theory of stupidity.

A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person there is.
 
2013-09-11 03:52:18 PM
 
2013-09-11 03:54:53 PM

netizencain: http://nfs.tamu.edu/facultystaff/faculty/beathard-karen/

She teaches a class called "Food Service Mgmt "; hence she's a perfect panelist to debate evolution.


I wonder what her thoughts are on apples?
 
2013-09-11 03:57:23 PM

exick: "I understand the National Academy of Science's strong support of the theory of evolution. At the same time, [evolution] is a theory," wrote Beathard

Well, at least your last name rhymes with an apt description of you.


Weathered?
Tethered?
Feathered?
 
2013-09-11 03:58:18 PM
Please Proceed.

I'd love to add yet another layer of reinforcement to the wall of separation between church and state.
 
2013-09-11 03:59:43 PM

ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?


There's one stretch of highway where we have a running game of measuring the CPM (churches per mile). It's pretty sparsely populated, with maybe only a handful of homes between each of these bastions of intellectual growth, so I gotta wonder about the economics. But it's absolutely impossible to underestimate the money available simply by repeating the same ... er.. "content" over and over.

You can go to college for six years, be in massive debt when you get out, and hope to make $160k in 5-10 years in science, 8 years and hope for $200k as a GP, or just tell people what they want to hear, and the sky is the limit.
 
2013-09-11 04:03:12 PM

EvilEgg: netizencain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ManateeGag: how are these children going to exist in the real world?

As long as they stay in Texas they're golden

Not the issue.... Texas buys more books, in bulk, than any other customer.  So most school districts follow what Texas does in order to get text books cheaper.  So when it comes to textbooks, where Texas leads, the country follows.  Not everywhere, but in enough places that stories like this are far more scary than they appear.

Civilized places will reject books with such non-sense.  Or at least skip over those chapters.  I am sure that there are groups out there that would love to supply textbooks for free to school children.  But such books would be unsuitable for an education.


This country has a majority of people rejecting evolution and instead embracing some form of creationism, so it's not a safe bet.

Thankfully, any book with this in it would be rejected out of hand by the State of Oregon.

"Schools may teach about explanations of life on earth, including religious ones (such as "creationism"), in comparative religion or social studies classes. In science class, however, they may present only genuinely scientific critiques of, or evidence for, any explanation of life on earth, but not religious critiques (beliefs unverifiable by scientific methodology). Schools may not refuse to teach evolutionary theory in order to avoid giving offense to religion nor may they circumvent these rules by labeling as science an article of religious faith. Public schools must not teach as scientific fact or theory any religious doctrine, including "creationism," although any genuinely scientific evidence for or against any explanation of life may be taught. Just as they may neither advance nor inhibit any religious doctrine, teachers should not ridicule, for example, a student's religious explanation for life on earth."
 
2013-09-11 04:15:18 PM

SnakeLee: Why doesn't California challenge this?  They have plenty of students


California, thankfully, does not use Texas schoolbooks.
 
2013-09-11 04:19:58 PM

Cagey B: SnakeLee: Why doesn't California challenge this?  They have plenty of students

California, thankfully, does not use Texas schoolbooks.


About the only thing Texas textbooks are good for is setting up sniper emplacements
 
2013-09-11 04:20:27 PM

mr_a: netizencain: http://nfs.tamu.edu/facultystaff/faculty/beathard-karen/

She teaches a class called "Food Service Mgmt "; hence she's a perfect panelist to debate evolution.

I wonder what her thoughts are on apples?


Or the perfectly-created-for-humans banana
 
2013-09-11 04:20:54 PM

Weaver95: If this goes thru I want them to include ancient Egyptian and Norse pagan creationist beliefs in textbooks as well.


What Would Wodin Do?
 
2013-09-11 04:28:30 PM
In the spirit of 'putting all the ideas out there' shouldn't we at least discuss using chemical weapons on Texas?
 
2013-09-11 04:30:24 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: What Would Wodin Do?


Get nailed to a tree and have his eye plucked out.
 
2013-09-11 04:31:00 PM

Tigger: In the spirit of 'putting all the ideas out there' shouldn't we at least discuss using chemical weapons on Texas?


With the sheer number of chemical plants Texas, folks might not even notice.
 
2013-09-11 04:31:55 PM
FTA: Panelist Karen Beathard, who works in the Department of Nutrition and Food Science at Texas A&M University

I wonder how many alumni of Texas A&M want a refund
 
2013-09-11 04:32:04 PM

BKITU: exick: "I understand the National Academy of Science's strong support of the theory of evolution. At the same time, [evolution] is a theory," wrote Beathard

Well, at least your last name rhymes with an apt description of you.

Weathered?
Tethered?
Feathered?


ski-tard. I've heard she's not very adept at mountain sports.
 
2013-09-11 04:32:09 PM

Blues_X


Proponents should only be able to use creation science in their family the adults' medical treatments.


I understand your point but the adults who control the situation are supposed to know better. There's no reason to make it worse for the kids who are already getting the short end of the stick by having nutbar parents.

(Hypothetically, anyway, since your idea and my suggestion are unlikely to occur.)
 
2013-09-11 04:33:06 PM
I used to be read the "Those crazy libs hate God" stories in the news and side with the Flanders's of the world, because I thought they wouldn't do stupid shiat like this.

Now I think that Freedom From Religion outfit needs a donation.  Stupid farking Churchy McJesus assholes need to keep their (my) beliefs out of schools.  Schools are not the venues to preach faith over science, even if some portion of the science is incomplete or going through an evolution.

/See what I did there--"evolution", I said.
 
2013-09-11 04:34:32 PM
Right along with Aesop's and the Grimm Brothers. F*ck it. Throw in all the fairy tales while you're at it. Should make for a more interesting read.
 
2013-09-11 04:34:33 PM
Saw the word "Texas" and didn't click the link, knowing all that needs to known right there.

Texas!
 
2013-09-11 04:34:47 PM
I am a confused foreigner...Why does the US not kick out texas out of the union  again?
 
2013-09-11 04:35:08 PM
PS:

Dear Texas,

THIS is why you don't deserve to have a Space Shuttle.
 
2013-09-11 04:35:20 PM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-09-11 04:35:33 PM

EvilEgg: Blues_X: Proponents should only be able to use creation science in their family medical treatments.

Yay! Penicillin for all!


Abortions for others!
 
2013-09-11 04:35:42 PM
Can universities revoke degrees after they've been granted? Because the person mentioned in TFA that has a PhD in molecular biology that is pushing creationism needs theirs taken away. No PhD, no professor job.
 
2013-09-11 04:35:50 PM

Weaver95: If this goes thru I want them to include ancient Egyptian and Norse pagan creationist beliefs in textbooks as well.


Specifically the Egyptian ones, masturbation and all. Oh it would be glorious.
 
2013-09-11 04:36:12 PM
"I understand the National Academy of Science's strong support of the theory of evolution. At the same time, [evolution] is a theory," wrote Beathard.

Gravity is also just a theory. Intelligent falling is an alternative to gravity. Teach the controversy!
 
2013-09-11 04:36:22 PM
Where do they keep all these books?  Are they in some central location, some sort of depository?
 
2013-09-11 04:37:08 PM
The real joke is that the Creationists are also firm believers in social Darwinism.
 
2013-09-11 04:37:30 PM

boue67


I am a confused foreigner...Why does the US not kick out texas out of the union again?


Because we don't want to get our shoes dirty.
 
2013-09-11 04:37:42 PM
America, this is why the rest of the world points and laughs at you.
 
2013-09-11 04:37:43 PM
Secede, you bastards.
 
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