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(Charlotte Observer)   If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will be able to accidentally shoot their friend with the gun their friend is trying to buy from them   (charlotteobserver.com) divider line 107
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2013-09-11 12:21:57 PM
www.gunholstersunlimited.com
 
2013-09-11 12:24:44 PM

Apos: [www.gunholstersunlimited.com image 250x181]


TL;DR
 
2013-09-11 12:37:35 PM
Well, he knows it works now. If only that friend had a gun.
 
2013-09-11 01:04:52 PM
Aggressive negotiations.
 
2013-09-11 01:50:16 PM
I don't want to jinx myself with hubris, but I just don't understand this kind of stuff.

My finger is never on the trigger unless I intend to pull the trigger and I check the weapon every. time. I pick it up. It's not even a little bit hard.
 
2013-09-11 02:00:10 PM
The shooting was accidental, he said, adding that the men were not angry with each other or arguing.

Nope.  The shooting was negligence, pure and simple.
 
2013-09-11 02:00:36 PM
The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.
 
2013-09-11 02:01:34 PM
accidentally discharged

Why is it that when somebody shoots another person intentionally it's all "guns don't kill people, people kill people!" but when it's an accident it's the gun that "accidentally discharged".

The gun didn't "accidentally discharge". It didn't "go off". One man pulled the trigger by accident and shot the other.

/ inconsistency is annoying
// or do guns become temporarily sentient just in time to cause accidents?
 
2013-09-11 02:02:01 PM
This is what happens when Hoods have guns.
 
2013-09-11 02:02:34 PM
Only dummies hand loaded weapons to their friends
 
2013-09-11 02:04:17 PM
It would be a tragedy if we required basic gun safety training for everyone with firearms.
 
2013-09-11 02:04:31 PM
They sell gun trigger locks for a reason - buy or sell a gun at a pawn shop and they will all have trigger locks just for this reason.


/alot of stupid people handle guns
//alot of stupid people die mis-handling said guns
 
2013-09-11 02:05:04 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Well, he knows it works now. If only that friend had a gun.


Yup.

Damned shame.
 
2013-09-11 02:05:43 PM
Darwinism. Alive and well in the 21st century.
 
2013-09-11 02:06:08 PM
If misleading, run-on sentence headlines are greenlighted...
 
2013-09-11 02:07:03 PM

ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.


Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.
 
2013-09-11 02:07:20 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble gun grabbers, but this doesn't just happen with guns. There are countless stories of people selling a car when the car suddenly starts and jumps into drive, running the person down. And laptops? Every year a dozen people are killed by exploding laptops in Craigslist sales.

But keep making it all about guns.

/Romney 2016
 
2013-09-11 02:08:17 PM
Ummm. Reverse that. No. That's not right either. Whatever. Nevermind.
 
2013-09-11 02:10:09 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sorry to burst your bubble gun grabbers, but this doesn't just happen with guns. There are countless stories of people selling a car when the car suddenly starts and jumps into drive, running the person down. And laptops? Every year a dozen people are killed by exploding laptops in Craigslist sales.

But keep making it all about guns.

/RomneyRand Paul 2016


FTFY.  You were so close to perfection...
 
2013-09-11 02:11:15 PM
A hair-trigger is not a good selling point.
 
2013-09-11 02:12:31 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sorry to burst your bubble gun grabbers, but this doesn't just happen with guns. There are countless stories of people selling a car when the car suddenly starts and jumps into drive, running the person down. And laptops? Every year a dozen people are killed by exploding laptops in Craigslist sales.


positivepiper.com
/ therefore guns
 
2013-09-11 02:12:57 PM
Free ammo, speedy delivery.
 
2013-09-11 02:13:25 PM

skozlaw: accidentally discharged

Why is it that when somebody shoots another person intentionally it's all "guns don't kill people, people kill people!" but when it's an accident it's the gun that "accidentally discharged".

The gun didn't "accidentally discharge". It didn't "go off". One man pulled the trigger by accident through negligence and shot the other.

/ inconsistency is annoying
// or do guns become temporarily sentient just in time to cause accidents?


FTFY.  It should be negligent discharge.  There are VERY rare circumstances where a gun can discharge by accident.  I've actually had that happen on the range.  AK-47 (a real one), released the bolt and the rifle slam-fired.  The sear was damaged.  I was following the 4 rules and the muzzle was pointed in a safe direction, downrange.  Scared the shiat out of me, but no one was harmed because I wasn't a dumbass.

If there is no mechanical problem, it is negligence on the part of a human being and should be treated as such.  Calling it accidental is a journalistic fabrication.
 
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2013-09-11 02:13:47 PM
let me show you the features and benefits.........
 
2013-09-11 02:14:19 PM
So do you get the gun for free if this happens?


.............just askin'
 
2013-09-11 02:14:53 PM
Maybe they should make triggers single use, like bullets.
 
2013-09-11 02:14:54 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sorry to burst your bubble gun grabbers, but this doesn't just happen with guns. There are countless stories of people selling a car when the car suddenly starts and jumps into drive, running the person down. And laptops? Every year a dozen people are killed by exploding laptops in Craigslist sales.

But keep making it all about guns.

/Romney 2016


Cars don't do this either. Ever notice the driver is always a 75 year old woman in those 'car just took off' stories?

And don't worry. The deflector shields are holding strong.
 
2013-09-11 02:16:27 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sorry to burst your bubble gun grabbers, but this doesn't just happen with guns. There are countless stories of people selling a car when the car suddenly starts and jumps into drive, running the person down. And laptops? Every year a dozen people are killed by exploding laptops in Craigslist sales.

But keep making it all about guns.

/Romney 2016


I laughed, out loud.
 
2013-09-11 02:16:37 PM

Okieboy: They sell gun trigger locks for a reason - buy or sell a gun at a pawn shop and they will all have trigger locks just for this reason.


That's not true at all where I live. Some retailers use trigger locks, but most don't. Regardless, the first thing the guy behind the counter ALWAYS does before handing a gun to a shopper is slide the action back to ensure that the chamber is empty.
 
2013-09-11 02:17:44 PM

what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.


What a horrible, anti-American proposition to make on 9/11!!!!!1!
 
2013-09-11 02:19:12 PM

what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.


Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Isn't it ironic that everyone seems to agree that people should be educated, it's just a philosophical disagreement on when and where that stops it?
 
2013-09-11 02:19:56 PM

AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.


Nobody thinks this.
 
2013-09-11 02:20:01 PM

AngryDragon: If there is no mechanical problem, it is negligence on the part of a human being and should be treated as such. Calling it accidental is a journalistic fabrication.


I know this is not true because gun owners are very, very Responsible People.
 
2013-09-11 02:20:13 PM

skozlaw: The gun didn't "accidentally discharge". It didn't "go off". One man pulled the trigger by accident and shot the other.


Exactly.  Accidental shootings are negligent shootings almost exclusively.  If the muzzle never points at people, then people never get shot.  If you keep your finger (and all the other sh*t in your pocket "holster") off the trigger until ready to shoot, then people never get shot.  And if you treat every weapon as if it was loaded, then people never get shot.

There are three rules, people!  How f*cking hard is this?

AngryDragon: It should be negligent discharge.


Or what he said.  Notice, of course in your anecdote that you were following the rules and nobody got a 7.62mm surprise.

SpdrJay: So do you get the gun for free if this happens?


They can toss it in his casket, I suppose
 
2013-09-11 02:22:14 PM

skozlaw: I know this is not true because gun owners are very, very Responsible People.


I think the breakdown here is that the shooter was about to be a non-gun owner, and the victim was a not-quite gun owner, at least for the gun in question.  There is about a 20 second window where the responsibility flies out the window and they just happened to jump through it.
 
2013-09-11 02:22:35 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Nobody thinks this.


"but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson "

Nobody thinks this either.
 
2013-09-11 02:22:49 PM

SpdrJay: So do you get the gun for free if this happens?


.............just askin'


Not sure, but dude was giving free bullet samples to take with you.
 
2013-09-11 02:23:51 PM
it just "Went off"
 
2013-09-11 02:24:25 PM

AngryDragon: Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Nobody thinks this.

"but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson "

Nobody thinks this either.


Well maybe you should take that up with the person who posted it. It doesn't make your gibberish any less true.
 
2013-09-11 02:24:32 PM

vudukungfu: it just "Went off"


They have drugs for that now.
 
2013-09-11 02:25:06 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Nobody thinks this.

"but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson "

Nobody thinks this either.

Well maybe you should take that up with the person who posted it. It doesn't make your gibberish any less false.


Fixed
 
2013-09-11 02:26:13 PM

AngryDragon: what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.

Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Isn't it ironic that everyone seems to agree that people should be educated, it's just a philosophical disagreement on when and where that stops it?


It's not ironic.  I think the NRA is actually the perfect organization to be in charge of gun safety or at least one of the leaders in running federally certified classes since they do so much of that already. Then again, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-idiot.
 
2013-09-11 02:27:09 PM

Carn: AngryDragon: what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.

Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Isn't it ironic that everyone seems to agree that people should be educated, it's just a philosophical disagreement on when and where that stops it?

It's not ironic.  I think the NRA is actually the perfect organization to be in charge of gun safety or at least one of the leaders in running federally certified classes since they do so much of that already. Then again, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-idiot.


I think NORML should be in charge of drug education.
 
2013-09-11 02:27:49 PM

AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.


Allow me to quote some TFer -

"Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most."
 
2013-09-11 02:27:53 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Nobody thinks this.

"but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson "

Nobody thinks this either.

Well maybe you should take that up with the person who posted it. It doesn't make your gibberish any less true.


I was pretty sure that by responding directly to him that I had....
 
2013-09-11 02:28:54 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: I think NORML should be in charge of drug education.


NAMBLA should be in charge of sex education.
 
2013-09-11 02:31:21 PM

AngryDragon: Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Uranus Is Huge!: AngryDragon: Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Nobody thinks this.

"but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson "

Nobody thinks this either.

Well maybe you should take that up with the person who posted it. It doesn't make your gibberish any less true.

I was pretty sure that by responding directly to him that I had....


Why should every kid in the United States have to take a gun safety course instead of just the people who are actually choosing to own guns?
 
2013-09-11 02:32:56 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Carn: AngryDragon: what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.

Conversely, gun control advocates think that mandating firearms education in schools means that the NRA will make free targets available with MLK and JFK printed on them and their little snowflakes will join the White Nation Militia or Black Panthers that same afternoon.

Isn't it ironic that everyone seems to agree that people should be educated, it's just a philosophical disagreement on when and where that stops it?

It's not ironic.  I think the NRA is actually the perfect organization to be in charge of gun safety or at least one of the leaders in running federally certified classes since they do so much of that already. Then again, I'm not anti-gun, I'm anti-idiot.

I think NORML should be in charge of drug education.


I'm totally serious.  I think the current NRA is far too up the gun lobby's ass in terms of their opposition to any kind of gun control, but they are still devoted to gun safety and offer tons of safety classes around the country.  I don't own any guns, but when I was a kid our dad let me and my brother do "rifles" for 4H.  I was probably 10 or 11.  The first thing we did was go to the gun safety class which was run by an NRA instructor who was very thorough in explaining the basic safety rules.  Then we got to go to the county range the next week and they taught us range safety and let us fire 22s.  It was a great experience.
 
2013-09-11 02:35:38 PM

what_now: ikanreed: The phrasing of this headline invites gun debate.  This is bad.  The people in the article are morons.  This is funny.

Well, as a non crazy person, I think you should be required to attend gun safety classes before you get a gun permit, but the NRA would have you believe that anyone who legislates that wants to fark the corpse of Thomas Jefferson, so yes. There is debate to be had.


Well, I personally think the 2nd amendment isn't applicable to the modern world, and hasn't been amended out because of insecure rednecks, but I also don't want every idiot to justify a pointless debate.
 
2013-09-11 02:35:53 PM

factoryconnection: I think the breakdown here is that the shooter was about to be a non-gun owner, and the victim was a not-quite gun owner, at least for the gun in question. There is about a 20 second window where the responsibility flies out the window and they just happened to jump through it.


If you're trading your last gun to somebody who doesn't own one yet, you should have to go through a gun escrow service. That brief window where you don't a gun and all your Personal Responsibility suddenly vanishes as a result is the cause of 117% of all gun deaths.
 
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