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(The Week)   A Drone's-eye view of Burning Man 2013 (warning potentially Not safe for work ant-like people)   (theweek.com) divider line 52
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2013-09-11 12:41:51 PM
One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....
 
2013-09-11 01:14:10 PM
www.vidmuze.com
 
2013-09-11 01:17:23 PM
You can almost smell them though the picture....
 
2013-09-11 01:34:31 PM
About 5 minutes 36 seconds too long.
 
2013-09-11 01:39:08 PM

Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....


The thing that struck me, in contrast to the photos from Mondays thread, were how sparse it looked.

Do a lot of people stay inside during the day to beat the heat and dust?
 
2013-09-11 01:39:11 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You can almost smell them though the picture....


Pot and patchouli oil everywhere
 
2013-09-11 01:39:43 PM
Which one was the sex slave tent?
 
2013-09-11 01:39:52 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: You can almost smell them though the picture....


From what I understand, there's something about the dust that keeps bacteria at bay, you don't get the levels of BO you'd expect.  I got a really nice shower every day, though, so I was fine anyway, but I don't remember even noticing anyone that really smelled BAD.
 
2013-09-11 01:40:17 PM
Why couldn't that drone have been armed?
 
2013-09-11 01:40:44 PM
Even more proof that BM is just another rich party with VIP rooms with lines to get in.
 
2013-09-11 01:41:42 PM

George Babbitt: Even more proof that BM is just another rich party with VIP rooms with lines to get in.


Now Juggalo Gatherings! That's where the fun is!
 
2013-09-11 01:44:25 PM
I'd very much like to attend (once) but the 400 buckaroo ticket price and the fact that, with my Irish-Finnish epidermis, I'd resemble an ambulatory piece of beef jerky following around 3 hours in the high desert sun very much put me off ever executing that desire.

But the pictures are pretty and the artwork in the pictures is breathtaking.
 
2013-09-11 01:46:42 PM

Mister Buttons: The Stealth Hippopotamus: You can almost smell them though the picture....

Pot and patchouli oil everywhere


I think I smelled pot about three times in the eleven days I was there.
 
2013-09-11 01:46:58 PM

Sinbox: I'd very much like to attend (once) but the 400 buckaroo ticket price and the fact that, with my Irish-Finnish epidermis, I'd resemble an ambulatory piece of beef jerky following around 3 hours in the high desert sun very much put me off ever executing that desire.


I wouldn't worry about it, after the kind of burning our skin gets, you wouldn't be very ambulatory at all.
 
2013-09-11 01:47:10 PM
Who runs Bartertown?
 
2013-09-11 01:49:28 PM

Sybarite: [www.vidmuze.com image 620x465]


There's a burning man in here somewhere, I'm sure:

news.bbcimg.co.uk
 
2013-09-11 01:49:50 PM
Are there any actual black rocks in the Black Rock Desert?
 
2013-09-11 01:51:07 PM
Also, that video is MUCH easier to watch with the sound turned off.
 
2013-09-11 01:51:15 PM

timujin: The Stealth Hippopotamus: You can almost smell them though the picture....

From what I understand, there's something about the dust that keeps bacteria at bay, you don't get the levels of BO you'd expect.  I got a really nice shower every day, though, so I was fine anyway, but I don't remember even noticing anyone that really smelled BAD.


I was at Otakon this year for the first time in a few years, and every now and then I'd get smacked in the face by the smell.  I know it was hot out and the registration line was long, but the inside was nice and air conditioned and the funk that hit me was usually so bad that it had to have been festering for at least a week.  I don't understand, I really don't.  Not having a hotel room isn't an excuse, a buddy of mine had arrangements fall through and slept in his truck, and he managed to bathe daily.
 
2013-09-11 01:54:06 PM

MythDragon: I wouldn't worry about it, after the kind of burning our skin gets, you wouldn't be very ambulatory at all.


Hah! 'Struth!

In a side-by-side comparison, I'd make Johnny Winter resemble Yaphet Kotto.
 
2013-09-11 01:54:22 PM
Old and busted: RC Aircraft.

New hotness: Drones!
 
2013-09-11 01:55:56 PM
Why the NSFW tag?
 
2013-09-11 01:56:47 PM

timujin: The Stealth Hippopotamus: You can almost smell them though the picture....

From what I understand, there's something about the dust that keeps bacteria at bay, you don't get the levels of BO you'd expect.  I got a really nice shower every day, though, so I was fine anyway, but I don't remember even noticing anyone that really smelled BAD.


I hear the dust there is highly alkali. When alkali compounds are mixed with oils (like those naturally on your skin) they react to make soap.
 
2013-09-11 01:56:50 PM

LandOfChocolate: Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....

The thing that struck me, in contrast to the photos from Mondays thread, were how sparse it looked.

Do a lot of people stay inside during the day to beat the heat and dust?


Daytime is a lot slower time of day than the night for the reasons you mentioned, and earlier in the week is always less populous than the last 3-4 days (my first burn in 99 the population DOUBLED on Thursday night to 23,000)    the problem is tents are too damn hot to stay in about an hour after sunrise, so that's why every camp of any size has a larger "shade Structure" that is more airy than a tent but gets you in out of the sun.   Daytime Walkabouts generally involve hopping from structure to structure.
 
2013-09-11 01:57:20 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why the NSFW tag?


If you look closely, you can probably find some nekkid folks in that crowd.
 
2013-09-11 01:57:34 PM

WTF Indeed: George Babbitt: Even more proof that BM is just another rich party with VIP rooms with lines to get in.

Now Juggalo Gatherings! That's where the fun is!


Except for the ones who stab you over a fire insult, I imagine they're pretty mellow.
 
2013-09-11 02:01:54 PM

scottydoesntknow: Why the NSFW tag?


The topless lady at the top of one of the sculptures.
 
2013-09-11 02:09:51 PM

Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....


I always just think of sports stadiums when conceptualizing the size of ancient armies. The logistics of getting that many men and equipment to move in unison always astounded me.

A Roman legion (4800 soldiers) was about a mile long when marching, including mule trains, supply and support personnel. A whole army (usually around 10 legions) would be up to 20 miles long, and typically consumed whatever town they marched through. And they were relentlessly drilled, fit, and disciplined. Julius Caesar once marched his army from Spain to Italy in only 19 days.
 
2013-09-11 02:10:03 PM
Drone was downed by incense smoke and rainbows.
 
2013-09-11 02:13:45 PM

WTF Indeed: Which one was the sex slave tent?


All of them
 
2013-09-11 02:17:25 PM
The large sculptures are actually quite impressive. Were those destroyed as well or are they transported to a new home?
 
2013-09-11 02:17:43 PM
Burning Man, at first, sounded to me like the most awesome Alternative Festival to get into. Then I looked at the price of admission, and the fact that, if you intent to go with no ticket you have to brave the goddamn desert, and I now seems liuke the most awesome Expensive Alternative Festival to crash into. And if I do so, I'll get a knee bracer, soup up a muscle car, put armor plates over it, and arrive like this:

jnpickens.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-09-11 02:21:17 PM

Ishkur: Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....

I always just think of sports stadiums when conceptualizing the size of ancient armies. The logistics of getting that many men and equipment to move in unison always astounded me.

A Roman legion (4800 soldiers) was about a mile long when marching, including mule trains, supply and support personnel. A whole army (usually around 10 legions) would be up to 20 miles long, and typically consumed whatever town they marched through. And they were relentlessly drilled, fit, and disciplined. Julius Caesar once marched his army from Spain to Italy in only 19 days.


Best place to start a revolution would be in the midst of a 100,000 screaming fanatics. Hand each of them weapon and march on the seats of government which are normally only a mile away from major sports stadiums.
 
2013-09-11 02:47:39 PM
$400 to get into that thing? $400 X 60,000= $24M!! Wow.
 
2013-09-11 03:03:27 PM
Great subject for drone photography.

\Appears a RV and bike need to be on the prep list...
 
2013-09-11 03:07:59 PM
I like that another drone appears about 10 seconds in.

I dislike that the operators chose not to engage in a dogfight.
 
2013-09-11 03:09:45 PM

Mister Buttons: Pot and patchouli oil everywhere


Your stereotypes were stale in the Clinton administration.
 
2013-09-11 03:11:41 PM

George Babbitt: Ishkur: Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....

I always just think of sports stadiums when conceptualizing the size of ancient armies. The logistics of getting that many men and equipment to move in unison always astounded me.

A Roman legion (4800 soldiers) was about a mile long when marching, including mule trains, supply and support personnel. A whole army (usually around 10 legions) would be up to 20 miles long, and typically consumed whatever town they marched through. And they were relentlessly drilled, fit, and disciplined. Julius Caesar once marched his army from Spain to Italy in only 19 days.

Best place to start a revolution would be in the midst of a 100,000 screaming fanatics. Hand each of them weapon and march on the seats of government which are normally only a mile away from major sports stadiums.


That actually happened in ancient times, a riot that nearly toppled Emperor Justinian until his wife found his balls for him started at a Chariot- Race i the Bzyantium hippodrome...and IIRC was eventually put own when the Emperor convinced the rioters to re-assemble there so he could hear their demands and instead sent a legion to kill everyone who showed up
 
2013-09-11 03:15:51 PM

No Expectations: Great subject for drone photography.

\Appears a RV and bike need to be on the prep list...


RV is optional...I did it the first time in a largish tent and was perfectly happy except for Monday when the 70 mph windstorm hit, (since I had advanced warning thanks to the local microradio stations I ws able to drop the tent and stow it in my car until the storm passed)   but a Bike is an absolute Must.   I've tried doing it all on foot....it's way too hard.  Getting a bike there can be a challenge but a minor cottage industry has sprung up in reno renting of selling thrift-store bikes to Burners (think the Lion's club was doing it this year)
 
2013-09-11 03:16:49 PM

Magorn: That actually happened in ancient times, a riot that nearly toppled Emperor Justinian until his wife found his balls for him started at a Chariot- Race i the Bzyantium hippodrome...and IIRC was eventually put own when the Emperor convinced the rioters to re-assemble there so he could hear their demands and instead sent a legion to kill everyone who showed up


I look good in purple.
 
2013-09-11 03:30:45 PM
I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of the hippie party culture...but while I lean right on fiscal stuff, I lean left socially...so I can't help but think that BM must be really damn fun if you can withstand the heat (I don't care how dry it is, the Nevada desert is just too damn hot for me).
 
2013-09-11 03:37:00 PM
I, for one, welcome our naked ant overlords.
 
2013-09-11 03:58:33 PM

Magorn: Best place to start a revolution would be in the midst of a 100,000 screaming fanatics. Hand each of them weapon and march on the seats of government which are normally only a mile away from major sports stadiums.

That actually happened in ancient times, a riot that nearly toppled Emperor Justinian until his wife found his balls for him started at a Chariot- Race i the Bzyantium hippodrome...and IIRC was eventually put own when the Emperor convinced the rioters to re-assemble there so he could hear their demands and instead sent a legion to kill everyone who showed up


It's good to be king.
 
2013-09-11 04:05:37 PM

Fade2black: I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of the hippie party culture...but while I lean right on fiscal stuff, I lean left socially...so I can't help but think that BM must be really damn fun if you can withstand the heat (I don't care how dry it is, the Nevada desert is just too damn hot for me).


As the somewhat conservative head of the Vietnam Vet Motorcylce Club that rents us the Land we hold our east coast Regional burn on has said more than once  "Whatever else this is this seems like exactly the sort of freedom we were told we were fighting to defend"  so he loves us enough to rent to us even on Memorial day weekend even though he's an MC less than 4 hours ride from DC and Rolling Thunder and gets a lot of requests from other MC to overnight there that weekend.

if you really want to expereince the culture but think the "survival environment" might be a bit much, seeing if there is a regional burn close to you might be a good compromise.  The Playadoes add a certain special something to the Big burn, because of how harsh it is.   I adds to the air of unreality that hangs over the event because it feels like you are having a party on the moon or after a nuclear apocalypse. However I do like the regionals a lot too because, among other things they tend be smaller and more intimate, and you still feel like you kinda know everyone there.  Last trip to the Big burn was 2000, I view it in retrospect as a rite of passage of sorts, whereas the East Coast regional brun, which I helped found is something I try to attend as often as I can get tickets for it (it's held twice a year, but tickets sell out in about 20 min or so-though a lot become available right before the burn as the flake out factor kicks in)
 
2013-09-11 04:29:27 PM
I was thinking an RV for showers and comfortable sleeping. A reprise from the heat and dust. Especially if girlfriends are included in the adventure.

A friend in DC is a big proponent of the local burns. The amount of prep/time/expense is considerably less than Burning Man while allowing the a person the chance to see how they like the scene.
 
2013-09-11 04:44:13 PM

No Expectations: I was thinking an RV for showers and comfortable sleeping. A reprise from the heat and dust. Especially if girlfriends are included in the adventure.

A friend in DC is a big proponent of the local burns. The amount of prep/time/expense is considerably less than Burning Man while allowing the a person the chance to see how they like the scene.


If you're still in St. Louis You aren;t that far from a very good regional called Lakes of Fire which is run by the Chicago burners
 
2013-09-11 05:50:46 PM
Place looks like Tatooine.  I kept looking for the Star Wars LARPers.
 
2013-09-11 06:09:49 PM
That guy needs to learn how to properly pilot that thing. The framing sucks and the jerkiness of his pans makes me want to hurl.
 
2013-09-11 08:32:27 PM

Cybernetic: Are there any actual black rocks in the Black Rock Desert?


Yes. Not many.
 
2013-09-12 01:01:22 AM

Magorn: One of the things that always strikes me about ariel photos f Burning Man is just how BIG  it is and just how many people  60,000 really is.  As a history buff it awlays reminds was an incredible logistical miracle/nightmare it must have been to move an acient army any distance at all.   Think for example that many historians believe that Xerxes Army at the Hot Gates was about twice the size of Burning man this year....


As a history buff, you might want to check into Woodstock.  500,000 people.  That's like 10 times the number of people at Burning Man give or take 100,000
 
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