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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Disney delays Pirates of the Caribbean 5 because of "script issues," which is Hollywood-speak for "the huge wad of money we lost on Lone Ranger"   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 35
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2013-09-11 12:01:50 PM  
As in "We need a script, we can't just have Johnny Depp do a two hour Jar Jar impression!"
 
2013-09-11 01:19:14 PM  
No Keira Knightley? ME NO WATCH
 
2013-09-11 01:30:26 PM  
They had scripts for 2-4? Or is this a new requirement?
 
2013-09-11 01:41:57 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: No Keira Knightley? ME NO WATCH


They are replacing her with Gwyneth Paltrow.
 
2013-09-11 01:42:44 PM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger_(2013_film)#Box_office

lost money is hollywood speak for "we broke even"
cry me a river

plus, why did these farktards think that westerns were making a comeback?
/yes, I know that there have been successful shows on TV, which is not really the same as a comeback.
 
2013-09-11 01:48:08 PM  

Evil Mackerel: They are replacing her with Gwyneth Paltrow.


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Paltrow is never a replacement for Knightley
 
2013-09-11 01:53:41 PM  

namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger_(2013_film)#Box_office

lost money is hollywood speak for "we broke even"
cry me a river

plus, why did these farktards think that westerns were making a comeback?
/yes, I know that there have been successful shows on TV, which is not really the same as a comeback.


They didn't think Westerns were making a comeback. They thought that the world wasn't sick of Depp's schtick
 
2013-09-11 02:00:38 PM  

unlikely: As in "We need a script, we can't just have Johnny Depp do a two hour Jar Jar impression!"


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2013-09-11 02:00:42 PM  

namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger_(2013_film)#Box_office

lost money is hollywood speak for "we broke even"
cry me a river

plus, why did these farktards think that westerns were making a comeback?
/yes, I know that there have been successful shows on TV, which is not really the same as a comeback.


Wtf are you smoking??

After underperforming during its opening weekend, the film was characterized by numerous media sources as a box office flop with many observers comparing it unfavorably to John Carter, a big-budgeted Disney film that failed commercially the year before.[65][66][67][68][69] The New York Times estimated that the film cost $375 million to produce and market, and would need to earn an estimated $800 million worldwide to break even, after accounting for revenue splits with theater owners.[67] The Hollywood Reporter noted that the losses from the film could surpass $150 million, with Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures vice-president Dave Hollis calling these results "very disappointing".[5]
 
2013-09-11 02:05:25 PM  
$190 million?

That's a ton to lose.
 
2013-09-11 02:07:04 PM  

namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger_(2013_film)#Box_office

lost money is hollywood speak for "we broke even"
cry me a river

plus, why did these farktards think that westerns were making a comeback?
/yes, I know that there have been successful shows on TV, which is not really the same as a comeback.


This.  The Lone Ranger went off the air in 1957.  Maybe a few senior level executives have fond memories of it but the vast majority of the movie going public have never seen a single episode, nor care to.  On a similar note, I'm pretty sure no one is even alive who read those John Carter of Mars books when they were popular.  My only guess on that one is they must have thought they were getting a deal since the copywrites are all expired.
 
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2013-09-11 02:10:17 PM  

Persnickety: My only guess on that one is they must have thought they were getting a deal since the copywrites are all expired.


Disney taking stuff after the copyrights are expired? Say it ain't so!

Why would they do that when they have all those original properties like Snow White, Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Sleeping Beauty...
 
2013-09-11 02:10:45 PM  
Uh, I don't know what you're smoking subby, but all the news pieces on this I read this morning mentioned "budget issues" as one of the reasons for the delay, including a quote from Bruckheimer.
 
2013-09-11 02:13:03 PM  

justtray: Wtf are you smoking??

After underperforming during its opening weekend, the film was characterized by numerous media sources as a box office flop with many observers comparing it unfavorably to John Carter, a big-budgeted Disney film that failed commercially the year before.[65][66][67][68][69] The New York Times estimated that the film cost $375 million to produce and market, and would need to earn an estimated $800 million worldwide to break even, after accounting for revenue splits with theater owners.[67] The Hollywood Reporter noted that the losses from the film could surpass $150 million, with Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures vice-president Dave Hollis calling these results "very disappointing".[5]


Didn't people go claiming that Disney just dumped their losses into John Carter for accounting purposes and that it was actually a big giant hit? Because that was amusing to listen to.
 
2013-09-11 02:17:28 PM  

Gosling: Didn't people go claiming that Disney just dumped their losses into John Carter for accounting purposes and that it was actually a big giant hit? Because that was amusing to listen to.


It's not uncommon to shift depreciated assets to failing products to shelter other areas of production. That's the wondrous magic of Hollywood Accounting.

I will say this though, Depp just lost gross points on his next big project because of this flop.
 
2013-09-11 02:17:37 PM  
The script wasn't charring his tree.
 
2013-09-11 02:20:39 PM  
Give it to JJ Abrams. He'll reboot and lensflare that sucker and convince you the original was a pile of steaming crap.
 
2013-09-11 02:42:41 PM  
And with the flop of Lone Ranger so began the end of the 'Johnny Depp can do no wrong' period of American cinema.  If he makes another Pirate movie it will be a flop also.
 
2013-09-11 03:01:55 PM  

Gosling: justtray: Wtf are you smoking??

After underperforming during its opening weekend, the film was characterized by numerous media sources as a box office flop with many observers comparing it unfavorably to John Carter, a big-budgeted Disney film that failed commercially the year before.[65][66][67][68][69] The New York Times estimated that the film cost $375 million to produce and market, and would need to earn an estimated $800 million worldwide to break even, after accounting for revenue splits with theater owners.[67] The Hollywood Reporter noted that the losses from the film could surpass $150 million, with Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures vice-president Dave Hollis calling these results "very disappointing".[5]

Didn't people go claiming that Disney just dumped their losses into John Carter for accounting purposes and that it was actually a big giant hit? Because that was amusing to listen to.


John Carter was a full-on flop.  Lone Ranger was a chance for the critics to dog-pile on a mess of a movie to preserve some cred.  What should surprise everyone is that a film based on a long-dormant American "Old West" hero did so well internationally.
 
2013-09-11 03:06:47 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: John Carter was a full-on flop. Lone Ranger was a chance for the critics to dog-pile on a mess of a movie to preserve some cred. What should surprise everyone is that a film based on a long-dormant American "Old West" hero did so well internationally.


This is true, typically anything western doesn't translate outside the US because The West as we know it is a unique American history experience.
 
2013-09-11 03:15:58 PM  
JVDB: Jesus Biggs did you even read the script for this.


Jason Biggs: Wait a minute, there is a a script for this!
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2013-09-11 03:39:12 PM  

stupiddream: And with the flop of Lone Ranger so began the end of the 'Johnny Depp can do no wrong' period of American cinema.  If he makes another Pirate movie it will be a flop also.


Began? In 2010 he was in the awful film The Tourist (20% on RT) and the lackluster Alice in Wonderland (51%). In 2011 he followed up with the mediocre The Rum Diary (50%) and the lousy 4th Pirates film (33%). Other than that he voiced a successful animated film character. In 2012 he was in the crappy Dark Shadows (38%). Other than being interviewed for documentaries, he hasn't been in a "certified fresh" live action film since 2009.
 
2013-09-11 03:44:26 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: This is true, typically anything western doesn't translate outside the US because The West as we know it is a unique American history experience.


Which is to say that it's mostly myths, lies and total bullshiat, with less of a grounding in mythology than say Norse mythology.
 
2013-09-11 03:49:55 PM  

patrick767: stupiddream: And with the flop of Lone Ranger so began the end of the 'Johnny Depp can do no wrong' period of American cinema.  If he makes another Pirate movie it will be a flop also.

Began? In 2010 he was in the awful film The Tourist (20% on RT) and the lackluster Alice in Wonderland (51%). In 2011 he followed up with the mediocre The Rum Diary (50%) and the lousy 4th Pirates film (33%). Other than that he voiced a successful animated film character. In 2012 he was in the crappy Dark Shadows (38%). Other than being interviewed for documentaries, he hasn't been in a "certified fresh" live action film since 2009.


it's time he reinvented himself as either a straight action star or just start doing romantic comedy.

people are done with "weird depp".  poor guy got typecast since scissorhands.
 
2013-09-11 04:13:26 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Which is to say that it's mostly myths, lies and total bullshiat, with less of a grounding in mythology than say Norse mythology.


Being an American invention of history I think that goes without saying
 
2013-09-11 04:36:06 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Dwight_Yeast: Which is to say that it's mostly myths, lies and total bullshiat, with less of a grounding in mythology than say Norse mythology.

Being an American invention of history I think that goes without saying


It wasn't just a creation of nostalgia; it was propaganda which was created as in the era, in the 1870s.
 
2013-09-11 04:47:32 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: It wasn't just a creation of nostalgia; it was propaganda which was created as in the era, in the 1870s.


You sound like a dirty free grazer ;)
 
2013-09-11 05:09:24 PM  
can we have a Disney cosplay thread now?

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2013-09-11 05:41:18 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: can we have a Disney cosplay thread now?

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NO. No cosplay.

Go watch porn or something.
 
2013-09-11 05:43:34 PM  

ZeroCorpse: NO. No cosplay.

Go watch porn or something.



ok, I can do that..
 
2013-09-11 08:26:34 PM  
Persnickety:

This.  The Lone Ranger went off the air in 1957.  Maybe a few senior level executives have fond memories of it but the vast majority of the movie going public have never seen a single episode, nor care to.  On a similar note, I'm pretty sure no one is even alive who read those John Carter of Mars books when they were popular.  My only guess on that one is they must have thought they were getting a deal since the copywrites are all expired.

I thought the same thing about The Shadow, The Phantom, The Spirit, and The Green Hornet.  Hardly anyone under 40 gives a shiat about those characters.
 
2013-09-11 08:34:39 PM  

Sgt Otter: Persnickety:

This.  The Lone Ranger went off the air in 1957.  Maybe a few senior level executives have fond memories of it but the vast majority of the movie going public have never seen a single episode, nor care to.  On a similar note, I'm pretty sure no one is even alive who read those John Carter of Mars books when they were popular.  My only guess on that one is they must have thought they were getting a deal since the copywrites are all expired.

I thought the same thing about The Shadow, The Phantom, The Spirit, and The Green Hornet.  Hardly anyone under 40 gives a shiat about those characters.


I was super excited about The Shadow.  And then less excited about The Phantom.  And then angry about The Spirit.  And then apathetic about The Green Hornet.
 
2013-09-11 09:58:10 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Dwight_Yeast: John Carter was a full-on flop. Lone Ranger was a chance for the critics to dog-pile on a mess of a movie to preserve some cred. What should surprise everyone is that a film based on a long-dormant American "Old West" hero did so well internationally.

This is true, typically anything western doesn't translate outside the US because The West as we know it is a unique American history experience.


Really? My experience is that Europeans and Asians love "The West" as it never really existed outside Hollywood, and come out here to see it. (I live in New Mexico, one of the big tourist traps for these folks.)

I remember being in Scotland a few months back, talking to a fellow from St. Andrews who was saying how he'd love to come to Arizona to see The Old West and the history there... then suddenly even he realized, "Though actually I can step outside and see older, more historical buildings right across the street."

Another person was asking me about "Indians" and if you really see them. I told him no, then had to elaborate -- "You see them, but, they're like regular people. They work at the gas station and live in houses." This was disappointing to him.
 
2013-09-11 11:57:46 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Dwight_Yeast: Which is to say that it's mostly myths, lies and total bullshiat, with less of a grounding in mythology than say Norse mythology.

Being an American invention of history I think that goes without saying


Did you know Jesus was a Jew?
 
2013-09-12 09:49:10 AM  

Sgt Otter: Persnickety:

This.  The Lone Ranger went off the air in 1957.  Maybe a few senior level executives have fond memories of it but the vast majority of the movie going public have never seen a single episode, nor care to.  On a similar note, I'm pretty sure no one is even alive who read those John Carter of Mars books when they were popular.  My only guess on that one is they must have thought they were getting a deal since the copywrites are all expired.

I thought the same thing about The Shadow, The Phantom, The Spirit, and The Green Hornet.  Hardly anyone under 40 gives a shiat about those characters.


they were trying to build a new fan base for old existing characters.  Valiant comics tried it back in the 90's (Magnus, Turok) and had some success.  Sometimes it works.  Most times however you are just better off creating something new.
 
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