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(Columbus Dispatch)   Apparently confessing to murder on Youtube isn't enough to get convicted easily   (dispatch.com) divider line 26
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2013-09-11 08:12:45 AM
But what makes you think it was muuuuuuuuuuurder?
 
2013-09-11 08:12:55 AM
There just has to be a better way to say that.
 
2013-09-11 08:15:06 AM
What's freaking funny is they were expecting him to plead guilty because it was a Tuesday.  You can only plead "not guilty" on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

What kind of farked up legal system is this that you're only allowed to plead a certain way on a certain day?
 
2013-09-11 08:15:20 AM
I read yesterday that the max sentence he can get is 8 years, is that right?
 
2013-09-11 08:16:02 AM
She said talks revealed that prosecutors wanted a maximum prison sentence of 8 1/2 years...

The hell?! Eight and a half, tops, for killing somebody?! How the hell did the Temperance League against Drunk Drivers allow for this nonsense? Shouldn't the minimum be eight and a half years in the stocks before another ten in solitary, with a written apology to the family of the victim daily?
 
2013-09-11 08:16:10 AM
So YouTube is now for cheesy videos from 12 year olds, foot fetish porn for old men, and getting around the justice system.
 
2013-09-11 08:16:47 AM
Attorney's will do that. The police still need to prove their case. Without any evidence, this could well be a hoax.
 
2013-09-11 08:17:16 AM
wait, he was only a .19? and he says he was "blacked out"?

what a lightweight.
 
2013-09-11 08:18:42 AM
Its not official until it is on facebook. Plus, most of the stuff on youtube is fake anyway
 
2013-09-11 08:25:24 AM

FullMetalPanda: What's freaking funny is they were expecting him to plead guilty because it was a Tuesday.  You can only plead "not guilty" on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

What kind of farked up legal system is this that you're only allowed to plead a certain way on a certain day?


You can only plead insanity during sweeps week.
 
2013-09-11 08:43:06 AM

EyeballKid: She said talks revealed that prosecutors wanted a maximum prison sentence of 8 1/2 years...

The hell?! Eight and a half, tops, for killing somebody?! How the hell did the Temperance League against Drunk Drivers allow for this nonsense? Shouldn't the minimum be eight and a half years in the stocks before another ten in solitary, with a written apology to the family of the victim daily?


8 1/2 years locked in a room with Carrie Nation.

/I almost misremembered her name as Molly Hatchet
//That would have been flirting with disaster!
 
2013-09-11 08:47:39 AM
Corpus delicti. How the fark does it work?
 
2013-09-11 08:55:06 AM
Legal system is not a justice system, more at 11
 
2013-09-11 09:20:05 AM
What a fecking DQAW. If he was really sorry with no hidden agenda, he wouldn't have made a dramatic film complete with special effects and a sound track. He'd have walked into the police station and confessed.

But noooooooo. Everyone in generation TMI wants to be a goddammed reality star.
 
2013-09-11 10:27:15 AM
Umm, I learned this in high school social studies in the 1980s (is that even taught anymore.?).

Whenever there's a high-profile killing, there are plenty of wackjobs out there who will actually call and confess to the crime, simply for the notoriety. I can go on YouTube right now and post a confession that I killed Martin Luther King Jr. Doesn't mean I actually did it.
 
2013-09-11 11:18:18 AM

tarheel07: Corpus delicti. How the fark does it work?


Which, if my Latins are correct, means "Delicious Corpse"

Mmmmm....juries love that delicious corpse.
 
2013-09-11 11:21:45 AM

Catsaregreen: Umm, I learned this in high school social studies in the 1980s (is that even taught anymore.?).

Whenever there's a high-profile killing, there are plenty of wackjobs out there who will actually call and confess to the crime, simply for the notoriety. I can go on YouTube right now and post a confession that I killed Martin Luther King Jr. Doesn't mean I actually did it.


This guy wasn't just some random guy who confessed to the crime.  The cops already knew that he was involved in the crash (it was not a hit-and-run), and were just waiting for toxicology reports to show whether he was drunk.
 
2013-09-11 11:29:13 AM

xxcorydxx: wait, he was only a .19? and he says he was "blacked out"?

what a lightweight.


He could have been coming down.  The crash was bad enough they probably didn't get a blood reading until after he had been at the hospital for a while, or he got stuck waiting for an ambulance while they worked on the guy he killed.
 
2013-09-11 01:02:10 PM

Lsherm: xxcorydxx: wait, he was only a .19? and he says he was "blacked out"?

what a lightweight.

He could have been coming down.  The crash was bad enough they probably didn't get a blood reading until after he had been at the hospital for a while, or he got stuck waiting for an ambulance while they worked on the guy he killed.


Cops will sometimes let you simmer for a little bit on a run-of-the-mill DUI depending on your attitude, just in case you're on the cusp. In a case like this they wouldn't be interested in fooling around. The hospital would take blood samples when he arrived, since he was injured too.

Lets not lose sight of the fact that nearly 0.2 is actually a pretty damned high B.A.C. It's even more significant that he is 22 and hasn't had 20 years of heavy drinking to bolster his tolerance like many Farkers.
 
2013-09-11 01:24:18 PM

freak7: I read yesterday that the max sentence he can get is 8 years, is that right?


Yes and the rub here is that the prosecutor is going for the max, which if you ask me is probably due to his video/15 minutes.  Generally the state will deal on a guilty plea at least a little bit.
 
2013-09-11 04:15:20 PM
So instead of jsut walking into the police station he makes a video. From what I heard about this he was already a suspect and some people think the video is a try for leniency
 
2013-09-11 10:30:49 PM

groppet: So instead of jsut walking into the police station he makes a video. From what I heard about this he was already a suspect and some people think the video is a try for leniency


What police station?  He was arrested the night of the accident.  They were done with the police.
 
2013-09-11 10:39:10 PM

Lsherm: What police station?  He was arrested the night of the accident.  They were done with the police.


What?
 
2013-09-11 10:47:54 PM
He was a suspect in the crash but the investigation was ongoing and he had not been arrested before confessing. Considering he was injured in the crash and there was video, as well as his vehicle being wrecked, it was a matter of time before he was charged. This is nothing more than a ploy to minimize his sentence, as was evidenced by pleading not guilty because they drew a judge that wasn't going to play that game.
 
2013-09-12 09:25:13 AM

freak7: He was a suspect in the crash but the investigation was ongoing and he had not been arrested before confessing. Considering he was injured in the crash and there was video, as well as his vehicle being wrecked, it was a matter of time before he was charged. This is nothing more than a ploy to minimize his sentence, as was evidenced by pleading not guilty because they drew a judge that wasn't going to play that game.


His little AW game probably tainted the hell out of the jury pool.
 
2013-09-12 08:21:57 PM

freak7: Lsherm: What police station?  He was arrested the night of the accident.  They were done with the police.

What?


He was already arrested and charged, he wasn't just a "suspect."  If he was going to confess, he'd do it in court at this point.
 
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